Muslims are trying really, really hard to be the victims, and the media are trying really, really hard to make their wish come true. http://atlasshrugs2000.typepad.com/atlas_shrugs/2011/09/islamicizing-the-hos pitals-muslima-cries-religious-discrimination-after-hospital-refuses-to-enga ge-i.html September 24, 2011 Islamizing the Hospitals: Muslima Cries "Religious Discrimination" after Hospital Refuses to Engage in Gender Discrimination More demands and special accommodations for Islamic supremacism in the workplace -- this is nothing more than forcing, imposing Islam on the secular marketplace. Muslim Convert Janice Brown Cries <http://www.answeringmuslims.com/2011/09/muslim-convert-janice-brown-cries.h tml> "Religious Discrimination" after Hospital Refuses to Engage in Gender Discrimination Answering Muslims Muslims are trying really, really hard to be the victims, and the media are trying really, really hard to make their wish come true. Janice Brown is a convert to Islam. Based on her reading of the Qur'an, she believes that it would be a sin to take off her clothes in the presence of a male doctor. Hence, when she needed treatment for hemorrhoidal bleeding, she requested a female doctor. The hospital, however, refused to discriminate based on gender. That is, they refused to seek out a female doctor for Brown when a perfectly capable male doctor was available. The result? Brown is now claiming that, by refusing to discriminate against a doctor based on gender, the hospital discriminated against a Muslim based on religion. The media are supporting her, and the hospital is launching an investigation. Now for the hilarious part. In the video below, Brown quotes from the Mohsin Khan translation of Surah 24:31 to explain why she can't take off her clothes in front of a male doctor. Apparently, no one over at Fox News bothered to read the entire verse when they decided to take Brown's discrimination claim seriously. The verse reads: And tell the believing women to lower their gaze (from looking at forbidden things), and protect their private parts (from illegal sexual acts, etc.) and not to show off their adornment except only that which is apparent (like palms of hands or one eye or both eyes for necessity to see the way, or outer dress like veil, gloves, head-cover, apron, etc.), and to draw their veils all over Juyubihinna (i.e. their bodies, faces, necks and bosoms, etc.) and not to reveal their adornment except to their husbands, their fathers, their husband's fathers, their sons, their husband's sons, their brothers or their brother's sons, or their sister's sons, or their (Muslim) women (i.e. their sisters in Islam), or the (female) slaves whom their right hands possess, or old male servants who lack vigour, or small children who have no sense of the shame of sex. And let them not stamp their feet so as to reveal what they hide of their adornment. And all of you beg Allah to forgive you all, O believers, that you may be successful. Notice that this translation commands Brown to cover her face (except for one or both eyes). Yet when she's being interviewed for her anti-Muslim discrimination clip, she wears a simple hijab: <http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-il0eK_JqHgU/Tn1M8GIjZQI/AAAAAAAAAbc/dP_U3tw3ZfU/s 1600/Screen%2BShot%2B2011-09-23%2Bat%2B10.54.46%2BPM.png> http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-il0eK_JqHgU/Tn1M8GIjZQI/AAAAAAAAAbc/dP_U3tw3ZfU/s4 00/Screen%2BShot%2B2011-09-23%2Bat%2B10.54.46%2BPM.png Notice also that the translation she quotes never says it's okay for female doctors to examine her. The Mohsin Khan translation only allows certain men, Muslim women, female slaves, and children to see Brown's "adornment." Hence, her request to the hospital should have gone something like this: "I need to see a doctor. But I will only allow a doctor to examine me if the doctor is my husband, or my father, or my husband's father, or my son, or my husband's son, or my brother, or my brother's son, or my sister's son, or my sister in Islam, or my female slave, or an old male servant who lacks vigor, or a small child. And if you do not provide me with such a doctor, you are a hate-mongering, Islamophobic bigot who is discriminating against my religion!" On a side note, I have to ask a question. What's more disturbing: (a) letting a trained male medical doctor treat your hemorrhoidal bleeding, or (b) letting your son, your stepson, your nephew, old men, and young children look at your vagina? According to Brown, (b) is perfectly acceptable, while (a) is an abomination. Strange religion she converted to. Muslim Woman: Hospital Mocked Her Faith: MyFoxPHILLY.com <http://www.myfoxphilly.com/dpp/news/local_news/muslim-woman:-hospital-mocke d-her-faith> FOXNEWS--A Muslim woman says she was forced to leave Abington Memorial Hospital without the care she needed, after a hospital staffer insulted her religion. Janice Brown, 25, is a convert to the Islamic faith. And she suffers from periodic hemmoroidal bleeding, dating back to the birth of her daughter. Late Thursday night, that bleeding led brown to the emergency room at Abington Memorial. Brown says she'd called ahead, verifying that she'd be examined by a female doctor. As a Muslim, it would be a sin for Janice to allow a non-related man to see her uncovered genital region. But once inside the examination room, she was greeted by a man. "The charge nurse came in- his name was James, though he went by Jim- and he told me that Abington Hospital does not discriminate and I'm not allowed to choose a preference whether i see a male doctor or a female doctor," says Brown. The hospital's own web site includes a list of patients' rights that includes the right to medical and nursing services without discrimination based upon religion. Janice's sister had joined her and confronted told the charge nurse. "'You're asking her to go against her beliefs and commit sins because you don't want to find her a female doctor," she said. And he said, 'I'm sure god will forgive her.'" "I don't know if it was more of a mocking thing coming from the charge nurse- for him to tell me, 'oh, God's gonna forgive you.' You're not the one to make that decision in my life," says Janice Brown. Brown says she stormed out and ultimately drove 45 minutes to another hospital, where she was treated without incident by a female physician. She got home at 4 a.m. "I think it's just a form of ignorance, basically. People not knowing or not taking the time to know or educate themselves about other religions so they can be sympathetic," said Brown. Read the rest here. <http://www.answeringmuslims.com/2011/09/muslim-convert-janice-brown-cries.h tml> Posted by Pamela Geller on Saturday, September 24, 2011 at 02:55 AM in Mosqueing the Workplace <http://atlasshrugs2000.typepad.com/atlas_shrugs/mosqueing-the-workplace/> | Permalink <http://atlasshrugs2000.typepad.com/atlas_shrugs/2011/09/islamicizing-the-ho spitals-muslima-cries-religious-discrimination-after-hospital-refuses-to-eng age-i.html> Reblog (0) <http://atlasshrugs2000.typepad.com/atlas_shrugs/2011/09/islamicizing-the-ho spitals-muslima-cries-religious-discrimination-after-hospital-refuses-to-eng age-i.html> | | Digg This <http://digg.com/submit?url=http%3A%2F%2Fatlasshrugs2000.typepad.com%2Fatlas _shrugs%2F2011%2F09%2Fislamicizing-the-hospitals-muslima-cries-religious-dis crimination-after-hospital-refuses-to-engage-i.html&phase=2> | Save to del.icio.us <http://del.icio.us/post> | | | TrackBack TrackBack URL for this entry: http://www.typepad.com/services/trackback/6a00d8341c60bf53ef015435a90f52970c Listed below are links to weblogs that reference Islamizing the Hospitals: Muslima Cries <http://atlasshrugs2000.typepad.com/atlas_shrugs/2011/09/islamicizing-the-ho spitals-muslima-cries-religious-discrimination-after-hospital-refuses-to-eng age-i.html> "Religious Discrimination" after Hospital Refuses to Engage in Gender Discrimination : Comments icefalcon <http://icefalcon58.blogspot.com/> said... Is it just me, or is it weird that she has her hijab in a knot over a modesty issue, but she's telling the world about her hemorhoid? If I had that problem, I would certainly not go on TV and announce this. Here on the South Side of Chicago, this kind of behavior is known as "showing one's a$$." Reply <javascript:void%200> Sunday, September 25, 2011 at 10:11 AM <http://atlasshrugs2000.typepad.com/atlas_shrugs/2011/09/islamicizing-the-ho spitals-muslima-cries-religious-discrimination-after-hospital-refuses-to-eng age-i.html#comment-6a00d8341c60bf53ef015391dbc0f4970b> Truth Seeker said... bsd I think that Ms. Geller is a champion doing champion's work in the world, but I think that on this issue, she's made a mistake. Mind you, if the translation of the Koran that she quotes is correct, then Ms. Geller does have some nice jabs at Ms. Brown. But even though Ms. Geller landed some jabs, the fight goes to Ms. Brown on this one. Discrimination is one of two things: treating similarly situated people differently or treating differently situated people similarly. Examples of the former: prohibiting a black person from drinking at a "white" water-fountain. There is no reason to distinguish in this situation based on skin color. I'm sure that most Atlas readers would agree that affirmative action is also an example of this kind of discrimintaion (as would I) -- the amount of melanin in one's skin is not a distinguishing factor in academic ability or any other college-related ability (melanin does make a difference, say, in blocking some of the sun's rays). Examples of the latter type of discrimination: giving a father the same amount of time for paternity leave as a mother -- these people are differently situated (she had the baby, for cryin' out loud) and thus ought to be treated differently. Same would go for limitations on, say, women in the fire department perhaps -- statistics can show that men and women, generally, are differently situated when it comes to things involving physical strength, and since such things are relevant to being a firefighter, it would be discrimintory to treat men and women the same vis-a-vis the fire department. Having said this, a male medical professional and a female medical professional are NOT similarly situated -- there is a difference depending on the patient -- and it is thus not discrimnation to treat them differently. Generally speaking, we think it's relevant and reasonable to separate men and women when it comes to exposure of private parts, both physical and emotional. We expect separate restrooms for men and women, separate locker rooms, and perhaps find it normal if a woman would prefer a female therapist to a male. It seems to me completely reasonable for a woman to request a female medical professional, for religious reasons or otherwise. Plus, it seems as if Ms. Brown (if we can believe the reporting) called ahead to the hospital to ensure that she would be treated by a woman. Sorry, I have a hard time understanding why the hospital is in the right to say it would be discrimination to tell the male practioner that he is not allowed to see the private area of a woman who does not desire such. The male is not like the female in this instance. It is certainly not discrimination to tell the man to stand aside when there is a female patient (in fact, it is conceivable that a male practitioner could argue that it would be discriminitory to force him to care for female patients should he desire not too!). In any case, I think it is important to highlight issues about Islam (and there are many) that are truly clear-cut and beyond the pale. In the war against encroaching Islam, the war effort is undermines when we pick battles over issues that are not egregious at best, or that in fact put Islam in the right at worst. I'm afraid that this issue is one where "Islam" is right. We have to be intellectually honest here. (I am happy to be shown in error, by the way -- I just don't see it at this point). Reply <javascript:void%200> Sunday, September 25, 2011 at 09:11 AM <http://atlasshrugs2000.typepad.com/atlas_shrugs/2011/09/islamicizing-the-ho spitals-muslima-cries-religious-discrimination-after-hospital-refuses-to-eng age-i.html#comment-6a00d8341c60bf53ef015391db8518970b> Stephen Rohaty <http://profile.typepad.com/rohaty> said... Abington is one of the richer suburbs of Philadelphia, so they can afford to fight this attempted extortion. Tactics? A Private Investigator can learn where she goes for Friday prayers. See her imam. ASK if she violated HIS teachings by prancing about with her naked face WITHOUT a male relative. If she so sinned, ask him how many lashes he will give her. If her imam is not that orthodox, place an ad saying, roughly, "Orthodox imams wanted. Huge witness fee!" Their EXPERT testimony will get her case kicked out of court, even if it's presided over by a mohammadan judge. Reply <javascript:void%200> Sunday, September 25, 2011 at 07:56 AM <http://atlasshrugs2000.typepad.com/atlas_shrugs/2011/09/islamicizing-the-ho spitals-muslima-cries-religious-discrimination-after-hospital-refuses-to-eng age-i.html#comment-6a00d8341c60bf53ef015435aebbc9970c> Liana Gabriel <http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100002809127314> said... Well she definitely displayed her modesty by declaring her name,her medical issue and pict to the media for the whole world to see. Grab that 15 mins of fame to be forever remembered as the muslim chick with a bloody butt.There's modesty,dignity and self respect Islam style for ya,it goes out the window when a chance to sue pops up. 1.it was a reoccurring medical condition ,not a sudden onset nor life threatening . 2.then she had a regular Dr. who diagnosed the condition .She should have called that physician. 3.it was not an emergency if she could walk out,drive to two hospitals,make demands,argue,,waste 45 mins between hospitals and sit in the waiting room until her demands were met. 4.emergency rooms are not for demanding personal attention,special requests or preferential treatment .They are for life and death EMERGENCIES . 5.if someone that was critically ill or injured died while the hospital wasted time on her selfish demands,she should be sued. Reply <javascript:void%200> Sunday, September 25, 2011 at 02:00 AM <http://atlasshrugs2000.typepad.com/atlas_shrugs/2011/09/islamicizing-the-ho spitals-muslima-cries-religious-discrimination-after-hospital-refuses-to-eng age-i.html#comment-6a00d8341c60bf53ef015391da319f970b> JB said... To the initiator of this blog... I read from that version of Quran for the sake that it should be read in English. The Arabic Quran does not have parenthesis that put people's interpretations of the previous sentence. There is NO obligation to the Muslim woman to cover their face. The Quran explains the meaning of the hijab in which the hair, neck, and ears should be covered and that she should be dressed modestly. I could have chosen to not wear the hijab at all in which I would still wear pants and long sleeve shirts in order to adhere to a modest dress. I love how everyone is all of a sudden an expert in the Islamic religion since this story aired. Regardless of how you feel about Muslims wanting to be given exceptional treatment, I am an AMERICAN. A citizen of the USA in which I am entitled to the same rights as any other American regardless of how I dress. Any woman should have the right to be examined by a female doctor. You complain that Muslims are always drawing attention and trying to sue and blah blah blah well it's nice to see it's working. I clearly have received the attention of everyone who responded to this ridiculous blog! Reply <javascript:void%200> Saturday, September 24, 2011 at 11:45 PM <http://atlasshrugs2000.typepad.com/atlas_shrugs/2011/09/islamicizing-the-ho spitals-muslima-cries-religious-discrimination-after-hospital-refuses-to-eng age-i.html#comment-6a00d8341c60bf53ef015435ad434f970c> Radegunda said in reply to JB... Study some history (not just Islamic fables). Muslims have been trying to force everybody else to follow Islamic rules (or pay tribute) for just about 1,400 years. There are neighborhoods in London where the Muslims put up signs saying "this is a sharia zone" -- even though they're supposed to be governed by British law. In Scandinavia, "infidel" women sometimes shroud themselves so the Muslim men won't rape them. If you think you joined such a wonderful "religion," see what happens if you decide you want to convert out of it. Reply <javascript:void%200> Sunday, September 25, 2011 at 03:39 AM <http://atlasshrugs2000.typepad.com/atlas_shrugs/2011/09/islamicizing-the-ho spitals-muslima-cries-religious-discrimination-after-hospital-refuses-to-eng age-i.html#comment-6a00d8341c60bf53ef015391da8006970b> Liana Gabriel <http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100002809127314> said in reply to JB... JB, No one care what a book says,what you believe or wear.No one cares what religion you are.That is not the issue. The issue is not citizenship. You can see women Dr.'s all you want.Pick up the phone book and call one or look in your insurance book.Call your female OB/GYN,primary care Dr. An EMERGENCY ROOM is for life threatening medical conditions.People in car accidents,stroke victims and people bleeding to death do not enter a hospital and place their order for nurses and physicians like a cafeteria.Someone with an injured child doesn't review Dr's by sex,race or religion to treat their child. I have suffered a hemorrhage and i promise you this case was not a medical emergency or crisis.You selfishly wasted valuable time that Dr.'s may have needed to save an injured child's life.It is irresponsible ,childish,obnoxious and self-indulgent to act like your religious ideals supercedes everyone else's rights to medical treatment . You got attention all right.Now everyone can laugh at how ridiculous you are.Next time have your slave put ice on your ass. Reply <javascript:void%200> Sunday, September 25, 2011 at 02:32 AM <http://atlasshrugs2000.typepad.com/atlas_shrugs/2011/09/islamicizing-the-ho spitals-muslima-cries-religious-discrimination-after-hospital-refuses-to-eng age-i.html#comment-6a00d8341c60bf53ef014e8bce0d95970d> RacerJim said in reply to Liana Gabriel <http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100002809127314> ... Liana Gabriel, Thank you for the plain and simple truth of the matter. Reply <javascript:void%200> Sunday, September 25, 2011 at 09:45 AM <http://atlasshrugs2000.typepad.com/atlas_shrugs/2011/09/islamicizing-the-ho spitals-muslima-cries-religious-discrimination-after-hospital-refuses-to-eng age-i.html#comment-6a00d8341c60bf53ef014e8bcf6f15970d> Bronson said... "no sense of the shame of sex" That about sums it up. Reply <javascript:void%200> Saturday, September 24, 2011 at 09:31 PM <http://atlasshrugs2000.typepad.com/atlas_shrugs/2011/09/islamicizing-the-ho spitals-muslima-cries-religious-discrimination-after-hospital-refuses-to-eng age-i.html#comment-6a00d8341c60bf53ef014e8bcd21ba970d> rufnkiddinme said... holy fn crap!!!! "not to reveal their adornment except to their husbands, their fathers, their husband's fathers, their sons, their husband's sons, their brothers or their brother's sons, or their sister's sons, or their (Muslim) women (i.e. their sisters in Islam), or the (female) slaves whom their right hands possess, or old male servants who lack vigour, or small children who have no sense of the shame of sex. " i think they left out el gamal, the raufies AND the pork 51 mosqueteers Reply <javascript:void%200> Saturday, September 24, 2011 at 08:11 PM <http://atlasshrugs2000.typepad.com/atlas_shrugs/2011/09/islamicizing-the-ho spitals-muslima-cries-religious-discrimination-after-hospital-refuses-to-eng age-i.html#comment-6a00d8341c60bf53ef014e8bccd80b970d> Alice <http://profile.typepad.com/6p00e5539122028833> said... So, apparently it IS OK for her to be naked in front of old men and little boys...according to the Qur'an... Reply <javascript:void%200> Saturday, September 24, 2011 at 07:05 PM <http://atlasshrugs2000.typepad.com/atlas_shrugs/2011/09/islamicizing-the-ho spitals-muslima-cries-religious-discrimination-after-hospital-refuses-to-eng age-i.html#comment-6a00d8341c60bf53ef015435ac5af4970c> mk750 said... FYI, most very religious JEWISH women would object for the same reasons. Reply <javascript:void%200> Saturday, September 24, 2011 at 01:40 PM <http://atlasshrugs2000.typepad.com/atlas_shrugs/2011/09/islamicizing-the-ho spitals-muslima-cries-religious-discrimination-after-hospital-refuses-to-eng age-i.html#comment-6a00d8341c60bf53ef015435ab5426970c> Jamadagnii <http://profile.typepad.com/rozchatt> said in reply to mk750... Judaism teaches that rules can and should certainly be broken when a life is at stake. There would be no objections if this was a medical emergency, just gratitude for the skill and care by the physician. Furthermore Orthodox Jews go about their lives following their customs without demanding sensitivity or accommodations from non-Jews. FYI I happen to know the Abington area and you won't find nicer or more generous or tolerant people, which makes this story even more offensive. Reply <javascript:void%200> Saturday, September 24, 2011 at 04:44 PM <http://atlasshrugs2000.typepad.com/atlas_shrugs/2011/09/islamicizing-the-ho spitals-muslima-cries-religious-discrimination-after-hospital-refuses-to-eng age-i.html#comment-6a00d8341c60bf53ef014e8bcc3ac5970d> RacerJim said in reply to Jamadagnii <http://profile.typepad.com/rozchatt> ... Nice, generous and tolerant people are Muslims' favorite prey. Reply <javascript:void%200> Sunday, September 25, 2011 at 09:56 AM <http://atlasshrugs2000.typepad.com/atlas_shrugs/2011/09/islamicizing-the-ho spitals-muslima-cries-religious-discrimination-after-hospital-refuses-to-eng age-i.html#comment-6a00d8341c60bf53ef015435af303e970c> Tom Billesley <http://profile.typepad.com/zeminkayadash> said... "....old male servants who lack vigour" It's no secret how arab slave traders supplied male "servants" who lacked "vigour". I doubt if intact male doctors on the ER staff would want to undergo the required procedure. Reply <javascript:void%200> Saturday, September 24, 2011 at 12:28 PM <http://atlasshrugs2000.typepad.com/atlas_shrugs/2011/09/islamicizing-the-ho spitals-muslima-cries-religious-discrimination-after-hospital-refuses-to-eng age-i.html#comment-6a00d8341c60bf53ef014e8bcb66fa970d> madmath1 said... Of course the doctor insulted her religion. Allah never forgives. Reply <javascript:void%200> Saturday, September 24, 2011 at 12:05 PM <http://atlasshrugs2000.typepad.com/atlas_shrugs/2011/09/islamicizing-the-ho spitals-muslima-cries-religious-discrimination-after-hospital-refuses-to-eng age-i.html#comment-6a00d8341c60bf53ef014e8bcb4fdb970d> Oracle said... Mrs. Jan Brown is probably having anal-sex with her Muslim husband, which is adversely contributing to her rectal bleeding and pain. Muslim men are allowed to sodomize their wives, concubines, and sex-slaves as they desire. Muhammad ibn Abd'Allah (a.k.a. Prophet Muhammad) decreed that homosexuals must be killed immediately after the initial discovery of their homosexual acts. But, sodomy is not prohibited in Islam. As readers of this website are aware, clitorectomy of women is also widely practiced in various Islamic countries. When a Muslim man continues anal-sex with a female partner, the woman starts to experience severe pain due to sore bottom and bleeding from her rectum after multiple episodes of anal-sex. In all likelihood, newly converted Mrs. Jan Brown's Muslim husband is sodomizing her too often. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] ------------------------------------ -------------------------- Want to discuss this topic? 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