I totally agree with you Don. Anything else would not be Open Space and would tend to favor sub-groups within the large group.. The four principles and one law, cover the whole space, where self-organizing would then take over and create whatever needs to happen for that group, at that particular time.
Ann On Mon, 27 November 2000, Don Ferretti wrote: > Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit > Sender: OSLIST <osl...@listserv.boisestate.edu> > To: osl...@listserv.boisestate.edu > Delivered-To: altavista.com%anngal...@altavista.com > Received: from PLACERGW-Message_Server by gwmail1.placer.ca.gov with > Novell_GroupWise; Mon, 27 Nov 2000 12:50:40 -0800 > from listserv.boisestate.edu (132.178.176.118) > by smtp.c012.sfo.cp.net (209.228.13.220) with SMTP; 27 Nov 2000 > 12:52:56 -0800 > from listserv (IDENT:listserv@listserv [132.178.176.118]) > by listserv.boisestate.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id NAA23571; > Mon, 27 Nov 2000 13:40:34 -0700 > from LISTSERV.BOISESTATE.EDU by LISTSERV.BOISESTATE.EDU > (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 132004 for > osl...@listserv.boisestate.edu; Mon, 27 Nov 2000 13:40:34 -0700 > from placerws1.placer.ca.gov ([199.103.32.200]) by > listserv.boisestate.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id NAA23562 for > <osl...@listserv.boisestate.edu>; Mon, 27 Nov 2000 13:40:32 -0700 > FROM mail.placer.ca.gov BY placerws1.placer.ca.gov ; Mon Nov 27 > 12:58:47 2000 -0800 > from gwmail1.placer.ca.gov (gwmail1.placer.ca.gov [9.100.101.75]) by > mail.placer.ca.gov (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id MAA04134 for > <osl...@listserv.boisestate.edu>; Mon, 27 Nov 2000 12:16:26 -0800 > from PLACERGW-Message_Server by gwmail1.placer.ca.gov with > Novell_GroupWise; Mon, 27 Nov 2000 12:50:40 -0800 > X-To: cou...@mosaic-net-intl.ca > Approved-BY: Don Ferretti <dferr...@placer.ca.gov> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII > Content-Length: 3320 > X-Received: 27 Nov 2000 20:52:56 GMT > Subject: Re: Participant Driven Open Space Principles and Laws > From: Don Ferretti <dferr...@placer.ca.gov> > Return-Path: <owner-osl...@listserv.boisestate.edu> > Mime-Version: 1.0 > Reply-To: OSLIST <osl...@listserv.boisestate.edu> > X-Mime-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by listserv.boisestate.edu > id NAA23566 > Content-Disposition: inline > Date: Mon, 27 Nov 2000 12:50:35 -0800 > Message-Id: <sa2258a0....@gwmail1.placer.ca.gov> > X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise 5.5 > > If you did that (ask the participants to define groundrules) it would not be > Open Space. It would be something else. The beauty of the 4 Principles and 1 > Law (as I see it) is that once you state them and the theme, the group is > good to go! Self organization around topics that people care about really > doesn't require anymore facilitation than that - Don Ferretti > > >>> "Francoise Coupal, Mosaic.net International" > >>> <cou...@mosaic-net-intl.ca> 11/27/00 12:21PM >>> > I am wondering if any of you out there on the list serve has ever > facilitated an open space event where the participants themselves determine > the principles/laws that will govern their open space event. Maybe this > type of approach would build a sense of ownership as to what would be > important to respect and would take into account different cultural > priorities. I have thought about Francis Gastman's email about her/his > experience in Berlin (which I found very illuminating). Maybe if there was > a space to consider key principles participants felt were important to > respect during the Berlin open space event, something like the Law of Two > Ears would have been deemed as important for all the participants to fully > consider/respect. > I use the concept of a Group Contract in non-open space events where > participants are asked to define the ground rules they feel would be > important to respect to ensure a successful workshop. We usually revisit > the group contract every day to see how we are doing and if we need to add > anything to the contract. > > Why not start an open space event asking participants to define the guiding > principles that will govern the Open Space? 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