Artur wrote: Reading about other "large group methods" the first thing that comes to my mind is that with some of those methods - managers will feel less afraid and - consultants will seam to do a complex/expert thing that seams (to clients? to themselves?) to justify the fee they ask for...
When clients pay a consultant they are paying an "expert" that will do "some work" for them. "Doing nothing with elegance" - is that payable by a client as consultancy? Admitting that it is not (or at least that it is difficult) how can we regain the "expert role" that is so valued in our society? Combining OS with other tools, methods or "specialised knowledge"? Concentrating in training instead of consultancy? (a trainer is always an "expert" by definition - if he "does nothing with elegance" he can always claim (or be understood by others) as a specialist in "non directive training methods"...) Does this make any sense to others? Regards Artur Hello Artur, it makes a lot of sense to me. I once had folks from one business unit in a problem solving exercise. Obviously they did very well their boss being absent. When the group realized its success, the manager turned up and somebody stated ironically: "Hey, we have done very well without him, what is he actually good for?" Sometimes I get the impression there are managers out there, who create the problems they are working hard and long hours to solve. For them OS is a threat. So what are the consultants good for? I am sure it´s also my mission to convince managers that it is good for them if they let people go and forget about managing. Maybe this is what I am getting paid for. What do you think out there in open cyberspace? Greetings from Berlin - Hape * * ========================================================== osl...@listserv.boisestate.edu To subscribe, unsubscribe, change your options, view the archives of osl...@listserv.boisestate.edu Visit: http://listserv.boisestate.edu/archives/oslist.html =========================================================== osl...@egroups.com To subscribe, 1. Visit: http://www.egroups.com/group/oslist 2. Sign up -- provide an email address, and choose a login ID and password 3. Click on "Subscribe" and follow the instructions To unsubscribe, change your options, view the archives of osl...@egroups.com: 1. Visit: http://www.egroups.com/group/oslist 2. Sign in and Proceed * * ========================================================== osl...@listserv.boisestate.edu To subscribe, unsubscribe, change your options, view the archives of osl...@listserv.boisestate.edu Visit: http://listserv.boisestate.edu/archives/oslist.html =========================================================== osl...@egroups.com To subscribe, 1. Visit: http://www.egroups.com/group/oslist 2. Sign up -- provide an email address, and choose a login ID and password 3. Click on "Subscribe" and follow the instructions To unsubscribe, change your options, view the archives of osl...@egroups.com: 1. Visit: http://www.egroups.com/group/oslist 2. Sign in and Proceed