Hi Peggy and All,
I'm back from my "interesting" journey for visa to Moscow, when I had no
official papers, but retell a story on how many people from OSLIST helped and
are helping me to go to OSonOS in Vancouver and the answer was - Wough! usually
I refuse, but now I will wait for your official papers... and will get you a
visa at once, when you will bring this papers...(Counsil Marina- thank you!)
so thank you Lisa and Chris - it was not me who wants the official papers,
(Chris called me and asked why do I need official invitation if everything is
agreed and done?) that was the Canadian Ambassy, which works with papers, not
with people, but still ... I got the "Wouw" (or how it is written?) from a
lady, hearing that somebody (thank you Kelvie!) send me a ticket, somebody
(thank you Lisa, Chris and Laurel!) are taking care of my visit there...so
insted of the only possible alternative - NO VISA, sorry - I got one and I am
ready for new adventures in the jouney with OS (and OSon OS).
Thank you to all once again!
I'm still with our training with Birgitt Williams as while sitting in Moscow I
made several copies of it for Birgitt and Raffi, so looked it several times
very attantively - it is so good and deep and challenging to start our own
journey
and I'm very proud of our participants, as they finished the last day report
(did not see yet, but heard from Lisa) and they realize the idea of Russian OS
list, as some people would be very interested to have an exchange of our
Russian experience in OS, and to participate in discussions
so the list of first participants is ready and the web-side will be ready (or
at least starting) soon.
We invite everybody to participate in it, as least Raffi is volontered to
translate some things from OSLIST(INTERNATIONAL ONE)
Best wishes to you all
elena
----- Original Message -----
From: Peggy Holman
To: osl...@listserv.boisestate.edu
Sent: Monday, June 11, 2001 11:23 PM
Subject: Re: Novosibirsk OS training
Elena,
Thank you for your wonderful, powerful work in bringing OS to your home. And
Birgitt -- thanks for being there to work with Elena.
Thank you both for bringing the stories to the rest of us.
Peggy
----- Original Message -----
From: Elena A. Marchuk
To: osl...@listserv.boisestate.edu
Sent: Wednesday, June 06, 2001 2:05 PM
Subject: Re: Novosibirsk OS training
Hi Peggy,
Yesterday, when I was preparing the Book of proceedings and as we had one
English (UK) participant - Sue Halliday-Stein, one US-Canadian facilitator -
Birgitt Williams and one participant, who is more then fluent in Russian, but
still asked me for English handouts -Raffi Aftandelyan, I knew I need to have
the Book of proceedings in two languages, though late.
If I could think of this earlier, on the time of training, probably I could
ask somebody to help me with the translation of the reports and as we were not
prepared with the computers at hand, and there were only 6 reports.... but at
the middle of the night when I was finishing this, it would be of great help.
How do you think?
Though Birgitt did not ask me, and told at the before-closing session, that
we would work with the reports "on the wall", I still wanted to try to have
this "feeling" of the Book of proceedings, even not so big.
So I did translated 4 reports from Russian to English and two from English
to Russian (that was easier) or something like that as one report Raffi had
helped me by doing this with his own one report, so we did have the Book.
So now, when I started to think that this is wonderful! I could send you
and OS list the ready English language reports.... if I could find them on the
computers - we were working on two with two files, so I can not recognize where
is the last version....
well that is not so bad, as I still find some version and very close to the
final, but while doing this search I feel myself not easy... you understand me,
do you?
well, still, here is the Book of Proceedings! See attachment!
I wish you all the best,
and I will try to go to Moscow with Birtgitt to help her to make a quick
change of airports as she has only 2.5 hours between her flights and I hope the
Moscow flight will not be late as they used to do the last two times I was
taking US people to the Novosibirsk airport and I hope EVERYTHING WILL BE OK
and that also I will get visa for Vancouver. Please, God! As I don't know how
much time they will need to do this, somebody said 3 weeks, so I need to
invastigate it earlier, then I will come the last day to Moscow for starting my
trip.
I'm so gratfull to you and all people who helped me with my learnings and
experiences and to the OS Institute for the possibility to have Birgitt in our
place, Novosibirsk, Siberia for providing real OS training for trainers with so
many deep levels of learning how to do "20 minutes of the work of the OS
facilitator" with her 140 pages of the manual and starting new community of OS
facilitators in Russia! and we need to do a lot, as when Birgitt recomend us to
start with some books to read.... well, we don't have them, we can not order
them through credit cards - as nobody have them, I'm not saying that they are
expencive, but we could start with library (community books), but still there
is one more limit to already too big limits - the language. We need to have
Russian books, to translate the books which Birgitt proposed to read to
Russian. So we have a lot of things to do. And that is good! We have a lot of
new learning ahead...
Thank you SO MUCH for all the OS community!
In an hour, 4-45 we shall start our travel (back for Birgitt) to her new
trainings in Amsterdam - I can't imagine, how she is doing so great, but with
all hopes for the best for us all
Best wishes to you and all
Elena Machuk, sincerelly yours
----- Original Message -----
From: Peggy Holman
To: Ric Giardina ; Leon DeKing ; Jay Vogt ; Clarice Sieden ; David
Koehler
Cc: Elena A. Marchuk
Sent: Tuesday, June 05, 2001 10:15 PM
Subject: Novosibirsk OS training
The the OSI board,
Here is an early description of the Novosibirsk training from Elena.
(Elena, thanks for the update. I hope you are okay with my passing this on.)
Peggy
----- Original Message -----
From: Elena A. Marchuk
To: Tom Devane
Cc: Peggy Holman
Sent: Monday, June 04, 2001 4:17 PM
Subject: Re: E-mail address change
yes, we will be on our 3rd from 4 of OS training and I'm very happy that
my expectations are met. Birgitt is very methodical in giving her materialls,
you probably saw the ones I show to Peggy, and she has the same for basic
training, so people receive good OS practice and "theory" about what is to be a
facilitator and how to make decisions.
we are only 16, that is the very nice group for learning and training
though we were ready for 40. But as the method is totally knew and some people
asked me if I can give them a program of training - what I did but that did not
gave them a clue... but there are some people from Moscow and S.-Petersburg,
so it shows that we made very wide advertizements but as we did not pay for
transportation, - people are used to many grants with such kinds of things... -
the most interested came. and they are the right people!
We are doing great though I'm wondering how Birgitt can held all this,
coming overnight at 4am, she started her training 1pm and worked until 9 pm and
then the next day from 9 to 4:30 and actually questions were until 5 and
something, ... and she is very brave though tired as she doesn't sleep well
with this time change...and I'm so sorry she has just this window and now a
spare day to relax before and between she will fly the 7-th to Amsterdam to
start new training there on the 8-th !!!
OK
good luck for you,
and best wishes
elena
