Yes, Joelle, you got, that in Russia we have no experience in project thinking and listening for the ideas, though it was all we have and we have a lot of ideas. the problem was always with implementation, as the usual answer was: OK, seat down.
so people, especially young never come to the designing the project. here, thank you Michael and Harrison, the situation is as usual not usual Kemerovo Rotary Club is only 4 years old, it was based on 'business' club leaded by the former deputy governor of the region - very VIP person, but they have no much of traditions of Rotary, yes, they have sponsored the meeting, but nobody stayed and give any ideas to children or introductions better to say about Rotary, goals of the year... just wished the good work... in what? Rotary and Rotaract movement is more advanced in Far East of Russia, as much more Rotarians are visited there from our head-quarters as it is on Alaska and much less and less people come to the center of Russian part of our district 5010 such as Novosibirsk and Kemerovo. Kemerovo is a sort of isolated club, rearely taken part in our West Siberia Assemleys, though they were on the 1st Assambley of the Russian part of the district held this year in June in Barnaul, which was visited by the President of Rotary International last year Richard King, in spite that it was against usual rules - he had more invitations, that days in a year, but he did visited Russian part as the very quick developing region, though ... lack of the Rotary traditions. so it happened. that District Governor Assistant and me - we were the most experienced people on this conference in Rotary - our club of Novosibirsk-Akademgorodok is 5 years old... and DGA did tell his nice speach, which I really like, but ... on the evening of the second day, after OS. Rotaract of Kemerovo did want to make a West Siberia Assembley of Rotaract, and their sponsors did support their idea, but not in a Rotarian way and I think it was not good that children were left alone. On Olkhon (Baikal lake) there were 2 american women, at least one was from the Rotaract Commettee from Alaska, who shared her ideas about Ethics in Rotary, and opened the assembley... so it the situation when I was invited to provide OS, which was not mentioned in the agenda, ... and the need to ask children what they want to do and what are their concerns and also in knowing that they need some training which was supposed to be provide by the trainer, who made the agenda... ... I still think we did a mix of 'something' which I'm trying to investigate with the help of you, thank you, I hope I will be more insistent next time, but the question for me, that whether I used the OS in the proper situation? I think yes, though participants did not came for it and did not know what it was, but they shared their ideas and worked nicely, in my concern, that it was mostly HOW TO questions, it is also ok, so probably everything is OK in this situation... and whatever happens... just sharing with you that in the case we had to share two different approaches, and giving some space to the other trainer, which made a great job in working on projects with participants... it was also OK. thank you for questions best wishes elena ----- Original Message ----- From: "Joelle Lyons Everett" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Wednesday, October 23, 2002 12:37 AM Subject: Re: OS with children: What are the unstated assumptions and aims of OS? > Elena-- > > I was talking about a workshop, which is training, and you were talking about > Open Space, and it it good to be clear which you are leading. I find myself > impatient sometimes with waiting for OS participants to sort things out for > themselves, but to whatever degreed they are able to do that themselves, it > is a greater learning than anything I can tell them. > > I remember that when I had been teaching Creative Problem Solving for a > number of years, I found myself frustrated because I wanted to share all I > had learned about the process, but of course I could not do it, because they > had no context, in the beginning, to put all those ideas into. > > Last night, I co-facilitated a very short OS conference with a professional > organization. The outgoing president hoped that the outcome would be new > ideas for programs and a few people volunteering to serve on the board of > directors. The group generated lots of ideas, some of them new and > interesting. No one offered to become a board member, but about half of t > hose present offered to help in some concrete way. And they scheduled a > follow-up meeting to work on the ideas, and see if they can develop a more > manageable structure to accomplish the needed work. The talking circle at the > close was long and thoughtful, in spite of the fact that we went past our > stated closing time. People were very honest, and I was moved by what people > said. So I think that the meeting brought some new energy and some useful > chaos into the organization. > > Joelle > > * > * > ========================================================== > [email protected] > ------------------------------ > To subscribe, unsubscribe, change your options, > view the archives of [email protected], > Visit: > > http://listserv.boisestate.edu/archives/oslist.html > * * ========================================================== [email protected] ------------------------------ To subscribe, unsubscribe, change your options, view the archives of [email protected], Visit: http://listserv.boisestate.edu/archives/oslist.html
