Dear Peggy and OS List,

Thanks for your most informative response. We read the attachments and
reviewed the web page.

We also are responding to the entire list. Is this appropriate or should
we be communicating directly?

As it turns out last Monday evening (9/15) we took our initial idea
below to a new monthly Open Space event here in Western North Carolina
-- in the Smoky Mountains, in Asheville, NC -- sponsored by Spirit In
The Smokies, an alternative & spiritual magazine we have here.

Two of the market place groups dealt with this topic. In the third pass
of the evening about 15 of us decided to meet next Monday evening to
follow up on an alternative to organized religion.

Also, the two of us, at the urging of some other list members attended a
Quaker (Friends) meeting last Sunday and found it somewhat satisfying
but still short on OS philosophy.

As our group progresses we will make them aware of this email and the
web page.

However, we have one question that perhaps you can shed some light on.
In looking to create an alternative to organized religion most of us are
trying to get away from hierarchy (ministers, practitioners and "proper"
organization.)

Our question: is your program too far along for it to be useful to an
exploratory process such as we are about? Your process obviously
reflects where you have evolved to. In great respect and appreciation,
we wonder if the kernel isn't as far as we should go as we start to
evolve, relying on ourselves to step through our own process. Perhaps
you have some insight into this question?

Warmly,
Peter and Esther Fisher

Peggy Holman wrote:

Peter and Esther,

I'm replying off the OS list becuase so much time has passed and I'm
just catching up.  Also, I wanted to send an attachment, which I don't
like to do on the list.

Spirited Work is an open space learning community that sounds like it
has much in common with what you're envisioning.  I've attached a
flyer about it and a paper we wrote about our 5 years of experience,
meeting 4 times a year in Open Space.  It is intended to help others
who wish to start similar communities.

Please let me know if you'd like to know more.

Peggy

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Peggy Holman
The Open Circle Company
15347 SE 49th Place
Bellevue, WA  98006
425.746.6274
www.opencirclecompany.com <http://www.opencirclecompany.com>



----- Original Message -----
From: Peter or Esther <mailto:peterest...@charter.net>
To: osl...@listserv.boisestate.edu
<mailto:osl...@listserv.boisestate.edu>
Sent: Tuesday, September 09, 2003 9:52 AM
Subject: Long time lurker seeks OS input

To the OS list:

I have been a lurker around OS for nearly 30 years, having looked over
my shoulder at some of the work being done at General Motors when the
Saturn operation was first planned. (I am retired from GM.)

Since then my wife Esther and I have participated in several OS events
and even facilitated a couple ourselves. We have also been active in
alternative conscious explorations.

This list, of many we subscribe to, seems most open to new thinking
and hence we ask for your help.

We have this idea and hunger to LIVE more fully in OpenSpace, having
reached all kinds of limits in "regular" organizations and we are
thinking about placing the following announcement/ad in the Mountain
Xpress and Spirit In The Smokies (which are alternative press
vehicles) here in Asheville North Carolina.

We would appreciate suggestions/input/ideas and thoughts relative to
our approach. We would also appreciate hearing more on how you LIVE
daily in OpenSpace.

Here is the piece we have constructed so far:

"CENTER for BEING 828-298-5800: Sundays 11:00 am - 12:30. A leaderless
alternative to organized religion in Asheville. Being and practicing
conscious presence together as One. Facilitated only by spirit or
intelligence. Together, in a circle, we explore and practice deep
listening, sensitivity, synchronicity, spontaneity -- sharing from our
hearts & minds. Based on Aquarian Age and New Millennium truths in
such modern manuscripts as: "The Power of Now" & "Stillness Speaks" by
Eckhart Tolle; "Beyond Belief, The Secret Gospel of Thomas" by Elaine
Pagels," Harry Potter" by J. K. Rawlings and others."

Warmly, with appreciation
Peter & Esther Fisher
Asheville, North Carolina
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