I love the stories on the list; I told the story of the empty bucket in a 'dutch' way to some clients who are in a difficult change proces. It helped them to look for the underlying patterns and not just to focus on the loss of jobs. thanks! And any translation would be very welcome as well as other stories. I will add one of my favourithe stories. enjoy your day Carla from Holland
Met vriendelijke groet, drs. Carla Vliex ____________________________________ Organisatieadviseur Twynstra Gudde Management Consultants Stationsplein 1, 3818 LE Amersfoort Postbus 907, 3800 AX Amersfoort Telefoon 033 4677761, Fax 033 4677572 Mobiel 06 53927407 E-mail c...@tg.nl Internet www.twynstragudde.nl Privé Aziering 18 3823 WP Amersfoort Telefoon 033 4554321 -----Original Message----- From: OSLIST [mailto:osl...@listserv.boisestate.edu]On Behalf Of Jaime Pedreros Fitzgerald Sent: maandag 11 oktober 2004 22:15 To: osl...@listserv.boisestate.edu Subject: Re: empty bucket, a story Hello Lucas!! Thanks for sharing this wonderful story; I also appreciate the reference of psp-sa. You have translated very well the main concept of the story. However, as there are several enriching details, I will try to translate them too and will post them on the list I guess you speak Spanish, which is my mother language; I am also an OS practitioner with some specific experience in this field. I have two recent experiences with OS which I will post in detail very soon. The first one relates to a lecture I gave about OS held in june at Universidad del Pacifico in Lima, Peru. The second one is about a "not so open space gathering" in La Paz, Bolivia, in july. This meeting was called for by the Municipal Government in La Paz in order to collect proposals to improve the economic development process of the region (600+ participants). Eight different and parallel events were tightly structured and organized by topics in different and distant places. I acted as a facilitator for the one dealing with Public/Private Policies for the Development of Entrepreneurs towards economic development (80 people). After day and a half presentations, trying to focus the audience (half day general and one day specific to each topic/group) we only had a few hours to elaborate and prioritize a list of proposals. My group was the only one that used an OS approach. I am sure I will let you know the details of the process but results were remarkable: each of the eight groups named a representative to address a presentation brie fing main results and proposals. Our group could contribute with proposals, priorities, schedule, responsibibles and was notoriously several steps-ahead from the others, mainly related to the feasability of each suggestion. I am absolutely sure that OS made this difference. Please wait for the details. Have my warm regards from each day warmer La Paz (it is spring time here)!! Jaime _____ Do You Yahoo!? <http://espanol.yahoo.com/mail_tagline/*http://espanol.news.yahoo.com> Todo lo que quieres saber de Estados Unidos, América Latina y el resto del Mundo. Visíta Yahoo! <http://espanol.yahoo.com/mail_tagline/*http://espanol.news.yahoo.com> Noticias. * * ========================================================== osl...@listserv.boisestate.edu ------------------------------ To subscribe, unsubscribe, change your options, view the archives of osl...@listserv.boisestate.edu: http://listserv.boisestate.edu/archives/oslist.html To learn about OpenSpaceEmailLists and OSLIST FAQs: http://www.openspaceworld.org/oslist * * ========================================================== osl...@listserv.boisestate.edu ------------------------------ To subscribe, unsubscribe, change your options, view the archives of osl...@listserv.boisestate.edu: http://listserv.boisestate.edu/archives/oslist.html To learn about OpenSpaceEmailLists and OSLIST FAQs: http://www.openspaceworld.org/oslist
