Funda, I intentionally said 'consciously', of course. I think everyone lives in OS all the time but we build inner and collective capacities when we work a bit to stay aware of the principles. Just a tiny bit of work.
If we go to a three day OS and we find ourselves in a session that turns out to have no heart and meaning for us and we get up and leave, maybe to become a flutterfly (as my daughter used to pronounce it) or we go to a different session, we have consciously lived into the principles. . . It is ideal, of course, for each person to be only investing their prescious lives in what has heart and meaning for them. I am suggesting that in order to develop the collective capacity to breath in and out OS in our work lives, a bit of conscious practice helps. Unconscious practice, and unconciously hanging out in OS is wonderful. . . but I am talking how what we as consultants might do to help client orgs develop the capacity. I do not think we can help them to be unconciously hanging out in OS. :) On Fri, 18 Mar 2005 22:57:46 +0200, Funda Oral <fundao...@ttnet.net.tr> wrote: > Therese, > > "hanging out conciously in Open Space would build > new organizational capacities." > > why you add "consciously" there...what if we say hanging out in OST? > > Funda > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Therese Fitzpatrick" <therese.fitzpatr...@gmail.com> > > To: <osl...@listserv.boisestate.edu> > > Sent: Friday, March 18, 2005 7:19 PM > > Subject: Re: Success > > > > > > > Yes, Harrison, I, too, think that what I wrote describes OSONOS. It > > > also describes SW, which gathers for three days in each season (4X a > > > year). And I agree that the Open Space Community qualifies as an > > > organization. > > > > > > I think there is a tangible, measurable difference between people who > > > gather and hang out in open space and people who don't. I think > > > spending time consciously attuned, even just a tiny bit, to the > > > principles of OS with other members of a collective builds collective > > > capacity. I think OS could be 'sold' to organizations as a staff > > > development tool in addition to being an event methodology. > > > > > > I have been spending a fair bit of time thinking about how > > > organizations can build their capacity to discern that which wants to > > > emerge rather than how to set and achieve organizational goals. And > > > the answer, for me, is simple and complex: build the organizational > > > capacity for collective intelligence. > > > > > > There are other answers for building organizational capacity but I > > > think holding OS gatherings, or maybe building OS 'hanging out' time > > > into organizations, is a fantastically awesome way to build collective > > > capacity. Organizations commit their resources to staff development > > > all the time. I am saying that I think OS gatherings with no work > > > agenda would be a superior form of staff development for an > > > organization. > > > > > > When I lived near Detroit and Motor City, I got to know a guy who was > > > Director of OD for an entire division of Ford Motor Company (he has > > > since retired). He told me that the first thing he did after he got > > > that job was to have every single person in that division attend a > > > famous motivational seminar. Not just the product designers and the > > > financial management teams: every single member of his division. > > > This was several years ago but at the time, but the Famous > > > Motivational thing was like a thousand dollars per employee. If that > > > division of Ford had all spent several days hanging out together in > > > open space with the simple agenda of consciously living into the > > > principles of OS, I believe Ford would have seen significant, > > > measurable results (improved productivity for one thing) than they saw > > > with the motivational thing. > > > > > > This Ford OD director was a great guy and he tried to mentor me a bit > > > using the techniques of this famous motivational system and I always > > > felt pushed into being something I wasn't. How to encourage members > > > of a large, complex system like Ford to more consciously self > > > organize? Open Space, hanging out conciously in Open Space would build > > > new organizational capacities. > > > > > > Now, if I could force myself to get pumped up to believe I could > > > achieve anything (which is what the Famous Motivational Seminar > > > taught), I could go out and sell this to Boeing. . . > > > > > > > > > On Fri, 18 Mar 2005 07:23:48 -0500, Harrison Owen <hho...@comcast.net> > > wrote: > > > > Therese Wrote: "I actually think, sometimes, that just creating a > > container > > > > for people to spend three days together in open space doing whatever, > > > > without an intention focused on work, is the best org. development > > training > > > > any org. could give itself. And I believe it enhances the achievement > > of > > > > measurable goals." > > > > > > > > I think you just described OSONOS(s). I know there is always talk > about > > > > having a theme and doing "real work" -- but to the best of my > knowledge > > all > > > > that never quite happens. What has happened is a matter of record. I > > don't > > > > know if the Open Space Community qualifies as an organization (I think > > it > > > > does), but if so there is little question in my mind that its growth > and > > > > development is largely attributable to the multiple times, spaces and > > years > > > > that we have hung out together being what we do. Or maybe doing what > we > > be? > > > > > > > > Harrison > > > > > > > > Harrison Owen > > > > 7808 River Falls Drive > > > > Potomac, Maryland 20845 > > > > Phone 301-365-2093 > > > > > > > > Open Space Training www.openspaceworld.com > > > > Open Space Institute www.openspaceworld.org > > > > Personal website http://mywebpages.comcast.net/hhowen/index.htm > > > > osl...@listserv.boisestate.edu > > > > To subscribe, unsubscribe, change your options, view the archives > Visit: > > > > http://listserv.boisestate.edu/archives/oslist.html > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > > From: OSLIST [mailto:osl...@listserv.boisestate.edu] On Behalf Of > > Therese > > > > Fitzpatrick > > > > Sent: Thursday, March 17, 2005 10:06 PM > > > > To: osl...@listserv.boisestate.edu > > > > Subject: Re: Success > > > > > > > > I am not sure if what I am about to write fits in this conversation > > > > (thanks, by the way, for the many great conversations on the oslist > > > > recently), but as I read Chris' comment "we need to be able to embody > > > > change in order to be able to welcome it" and Chris' observation, > > > > which we could all echo, that when people do an org. development > > > > 'intervention', they expect something significant to happen. . . . > > > > > > > > I think the reason to have open space events in organizations is to > > > > build the capacity of that organization to be able to welcome change > > > > as it emerges. I don't imagine it would be easy to 'sell' this to > > > > someone who wants to have a three day open space to create a strategic > > > > plan or design a product development process but, for me, the real > > > > value of having employees or members of an organization spend a day, > > > > two or three in open space is to have them spend time practicing > > > > following what has heart and meaning, to practice the law of two feet, > > > > to practice trusting that the right people show up and the right thing > > > > will happen. > > > > > > > > And, I THINK (ask me in an hour and I might think differently) the > > > > reason I am attracted to attending open space events and to being an > > > > open space practitioner and, even, to collaborating as much as I can > > > > with people who have experienced a lot of open space technology, is > > > > because I deeply desire to be able to welcome what wants to show up > > > > and I deeply value working with others who have begun to integrate the > > > > principles of open space into their way of being. > > > > > > > > I actually think, sometimes, that just creating a container for people > > > > to spend three days together in open space doing whatever, without an > > > > intention focussed on work, is the best org. development training any > > > > org. could give itself. And I believe it enhances the achievement of > > > > measurable goals. > > > > > > > > On Thu, 17 Mar 2005 13:43:19 -0800, Chris Corrigan > > > > <chris.corri...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > On Thu, 17 Mar 2005 11:04:33 -0500, R. Duff Doel <d...@innergy.ca> > > wrote: > > > > > > "Some people will do anything > > > > > > to maintain control and avoid success." > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Often people expect big things from organizational development > > > > > "interventions." They wouldn't do so otherwise. Retreats, planning > > > > > sessions, Open Space forums...all come with the expectation that > doing > > > > > something significant will change things significantly. > > > > > > > > > > In working with sponsors I do have conversations about what > > > > > transformation really means and how willing people are to transform > > > > > themselves to meet the new world they are wanting to be born. There > > > > > is a real stretch in this work for people, to go into somewhere new > > > > > while not abandoning what they know - the "safe ground" - even if > the > > > > > safe ground is no longer serving them very well. > > > > > > > > > > Fear, trust, openness, chaordic confidence...all of these are > > > > > emotions, practices and states we need to grapple with to open > > > > > ourselves to transformation. We need to be able to embody change in > > > > > order to be there to welcome it when it arrives. > > > > > > > > > > And so for me success is relative, but what I really invite people > to > > > > > stretch into is that place where they can embody the success they > > > > > want. If they can't then we have to get real about what we're > willing > > > > > to do. > > > > > > > > > > But if they CAN get really big and offer themselves up for change, > > > > > unbelievable things can happen. > > > > > > > > > > Good question, Duff. > > > > > > > > > > Chris > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > ------------------------- > > > > > CHRIS CORRIGAN > > > > > Consultation - Facilitation > > > > > Open Space Technology > > > > > > > > > > Weblog: http://www.chriscorrigan.com/parkinglot > > > > > Site: http://www.chriscorrigan.com > > > > > > > > > > * > > > > > * > > > > > ========================================================== > > > > > osl...@listserv.boisestate.edu > > > > > ------------------------------ > > > > > To subscribe, unsubscribe, change your options, > > > > > view the archives of osl...@listserv.boisestate.edu: > > > > > http://listserv.boisestate.edu/archives/oslist.html > > > > > > > > > > To learn about OpenSpaceEmailLists and OSLIST FAQs: > > > > > http://www.openspaceworld.org/oslist > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > Warmly, > > > > Therese Fitzpatrick > > > > > > > > * > > > > * > > > > ========================================================== > > > > osl...@listserv.boisestate.edu > > > > ------------------------------ > > > > To subscribe, unsubscribe, change your options, > > > > view the archives of osl...@listserv.boisestate.edu: > > > > http://listserv.boisestate.edu/archives/oslist.html > > > > > > > > To learn about OpenSpaceEmailLists and OSLIST FAQs: > > > > http://www.openspaceworld.org/oslist > > > > > > > > * > > > > * > > > > ========================================================== > > > > osl...@listserv.boisestate.edu > > > > ------------------------------ > > > > To subscribe, unsubscribe, change your options, > > > > view the archives of osl...@listserv.boisestate.edu: > > > > http://listserv.boisestate.edu/archives/oslist.html > > > > > > > > To learn about OpenSpaceEmailLists and OSLIST FAQs: > > > > http://www.openspaceworld.org/oslist > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > Warmly, > > > Therese Fitzpatrick > > > > > > * > > > * > > > ========================================================== > > > osl...@listserv.boisestate.edu > > > ------------------------------ > > > To subscribe, unsubscribe, change your options, > > > view the archives of osl...@listserv.boisestate.edu: > > > http://listserv.boisestate.edu/archives/oslist.html > > > > > > To learn about OpenSpaceEmailLists and OSLIST FAQs: > > > http://www.openspaceworld.org/oslist > > > > * > * > ========================================================== > osl...@listserv.boisestate.edu > ------------------------------ > To subscribe, unsubscribe, change your options, > view the archives of osl...@listserv.boisestate.edu: > http://listserv.boisestate.edu/archives/oslist.html > > To learn about OpenSpaceEmailLists and OSLIST FAQs: > http://www.openspaceworld.org/oslist > -- Warmly, Therese Fitzpatrick * * ========================================================== osl...@listserv.boisestate.edu ------------------------------ To subscribe, unsubscribe, change your options, view the archives of osl...@listserv.boisestate.edu: http://listserv.boisestate.edu/archives/oslist.html To learn about OpenSpaceEmailLists and OSLIST FAQs: http://www.openspaceworld.org/oslist