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Topics of the day:
1. New OS Stories from the Field - 2nd edition
2. A story from the field: talking stick (2)
3. leverage points (4)
4. from Ukraine (3)
5. Greetings from Ukrainian OS (2)
6. Thoughts on Self Organizing (2)
7. replacing?
8. Craig's question about Strategic Planning
9. leverage points & Control --I wish I had it (2)
10. a rather different place
11. Craig
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Date: Wed, 25 May 2005 02:10:19 -0600
From: "Holger Nauheimer (Change Facilitation s.r.o.)"
<hol...@change-management-toolbook.com>
Subject: New OS Stories from the Field - 2nd edition
Hi everybody,
I have just uploaded the second, corrected version of the OS Reader:
New Stories From the Field
There were some nice bugs, e.g. ("When it's now over, it is not over").
Some of the authors had a few comments.
So, I would invite you to use the current version, downloadable
as PDF (0.7 MB):
http://www.change-management-toolbook.com/media/New_Stories.pdf
or as MSWord file (6.5 MB)
http://www.change-management-toolbook.com/media/New_Stories.doc
Best regards,
Holger Nauheimer
Change Facilitation s.r.o.
International Open Space Technology Facilitation Training
Bratislava, Sep 4-7, 2005
http://www.change-management-toolbook.com/about/training_2005_ostf.html
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Date: Wed, 25 May 2005 13:42:39 +0200
From: WeBe TrainConsult <wb-traincons...@gmx.net>
Subject: Re: A story from the field: talking stick
Am Tue, 24 May 2005 17:47:40 +0200, schrieb Gerard Muller:
Dear all,
Earlier on I wrote I always ask the sponsor to choose and introduce
a talking stick.
While most do not find this an easy thing to do, most select
something which I could not have thought of,
and more often than not the words they introduce the talking stick
with are something which, well, you would like to have in
writing....................
No-one ever did, until last Saturday, and it is a beautiful example
I would like to share with you.
The background: we have some 15.000 Somalians in Denmark, fugitives
from the war a decade ago.
Ninety percent are unemployed. Being foreigners, muslim and black
does not make it easier in Danish society to get a job.
The question of the Open Space was:
"Many thousands Somalians would like to have a job soon - how do we
create that success ?"
Participants: some hundred people. Somalians, employers, and others
somehow connected to the issue.
And now for the talking stick, introduced by a Somali woman - here
are her words:
I have chosen to bring along a key to our closing round.
Every single Somalian who was on his way to Denmark, had a dream We
all knew it would require hard work to realise that dream
The dream was about getting a life with physical and social safety
Among other things that means having a job to enable us to pay for
a place to live,
to have control over our lives, and have a sense of pride in
ourselves and thereby be respected in society.
This key represents our dream.
But it is as if this key does not fit to the keyhole we found here
in Denmark ...........
However, Today we have created a new key.
The key to our dream, to our future.
From Today onwards we will use this key to turn into the right
direction.
We will turn it from left to right and will work hard to realise
the dream
Greetings from Denmark,
Gerard Muller
Open Space Institute Denmark
Phone: (+45) 21269621
Mail: g...@openspace.dk
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Date: Wed, 25 May 2005 13:46:35 +0200
From: WeBe TrainConsult <wb-traincons...@gmx.net>
Subject: Re: A story from the field: talking stick
Gerard and all
I thank you for posting these moving words from the Somalian woman,
they are of general truth for Africans who try to settle in Europe
I think
Best greetings from Mocambique to all after a long time of absence from
the list
Bernd Weber
Am Tue, 24 May 2005 17:47:40 +0200, schrieb Gerard Muller:
..........
I have chosen to bring along a key to our closing round.
Every single Somalian who was on his way to Denmark, had a dream We
all knew it would require hard work to realise that dream
The dream was about getting a life with physical and social safety
Among other things that means having a job to enable us to pay for
a place to live,
to have control over our lives, and have a sense of pride in
ourselves and thereby be respected in society.
This key represents our dream.
But it is as if this key does not fit to the keyhole we found here
in Denmark ...........
However, Today we have created a new key.
The key to our dream, to our future.
From Today onwards we will use this key to turn into the right
direction.
We will turn it from left to right and will work hard to realise
the dream
Greetings from Denmark,
Gerard Muller
Open Space Institute Denmark
Phone: (+45) 21269621
Mail: g...@openspace.dk
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Date: Wed, 25 May 2005 07:06:07 -0600
From: Masud Sheikh <mashe...@cogeco.ca>
Subject: Re: leverage points
Therese Fitzpatrick <therese.fitzpatr...@gmail.com> wrote:
The principle "whoever comes are the right people" is, for me, the
most important principle in open space. And beyond open space, I
believe it is an essential principle for the solutions to intractable
human problems to emerge.
Therese, I understand what you are saying, and what Harrison has been
saying. The principle has a lot to do with "self-organizing" and not
enough to do with the "goals of the system". Harrison confirmed his
judgment, when he said only those who CARED enough to come, came.
Who comes depends on so many other things. Please have a look at the
thread named "access" "access..to space" and related threads from April
(and perhaps earlier). Yesterday, there was a wonderful example about
access in Gerard Muller's "Story from the Field: talking stick", where
there was access to disadavanteged people.
Consider one simple point: To what extent do invitations depend on who is
giving the invitations? This happens whether you invite someone out to
coffee, to your home, or to an OS Event. Would it make a difference as to
who came if the wording of the principle got changed?
I find the word 'RIGHT" judgmental rather than value neutral. If we say
instead "those who felt invited", that says something about both the
host/s and the invitee/s. Re strangers, they would "feel invited" in some
way, for them to participate. The invitation may be implicit rather than
explicit.
And now Therese, it is time to use my two feet, and leave this space for
other list members - to contemplate, participate, or move on from
Take care
Masud
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Date: Wed, 25 May 2005 15:42:48 +0200
From: jotoep...@boscop.de
Subject: from Ukraine
Dear colleagues,
right now Tuesday evening a thunderstorm has shut down all electricity. We
are
sitting at the dark bar drinking Moldavian Chardonnay wondering whether we
will
be able to send this message.
After a full day of Open Space participants got into Action Planning this
morning, producing 26 proposals resulting in 22 detailed next steps. Since
we
agreed to have a Learning Exchange for this crowd in November there will
be a
wonderful chance to see what will come out of it.
Everybody spoke in the Closing Circle including one participant who took a
whole
minute of silence for herself and saying Thank You before she handed the
talking stick (Jo's powerful piece of wood from the river Ob in Siberia,
which
has gone though more than two thousand hands) to the next person.
A recurrent strain was their recall of early childhood learning
experiences and
their amazement at the harmonious atmosphere. which was part of their
general
theme. This against their experience in this transforming society.
After lunch a four minute introduction by Michael and Jo in English and
Russian
into Open Space on Open Space. Sobering and down to earth. Even though
they had
a strenuous day they posted 18 issues and produced 19 reports in four
hours.
Before the electricity went off our team had copied all the reports for
all the
participants so that the book will be ready by tomorrow morning.
Gads, the juice just came back after a 90 minute black out causing
everybody at
the bar to cheer and clap.
One of the highlights today: Michael speaking in English during the
Evening News
and Jo not translating with varying participants jumping into the
translator
mode. High play, high laughing and a spirit reminiscent of what many of us
are
dreaming about: the InterActive Organization. here in the remote Ukrainian
countryside.
We hope this reaches you in good spirits at breakfast while we are
enjoying
Ukrainian folk singing by a group next to the bar.
Jo and Michael
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Date: Wed, 25 May 2005 07:21:56 -0700
From: Elwin and Joan <elwinandj...@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: from Ukraine
--- jotoep...@boscop.de wrote:
Dear colleagues,
"right now Tuesday evening a thunderstorm has shut down all
electricity. We are sitting at the dark bar drinking Moldavian
Chardonnay wondering whether we will be able to send this message.
We hope this reaches you in good spirits at breakfast while we are
enjoying Ukrainian folk singing by a group next to the bar."
Jo and Michael,
I am there with you! I can touch it, taste it, feel it!
Keep the lights out :-)
eg
Elwin Guild
Future Development International
Baltimore
elwinandj...@yahoo.com
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Date: Wed, 25 May 2005 16:28:21 +0200
From: Toke Paludan M=?ISO-8859-1?B?+A==?=ller <t...@interchange.dk>
Subject: Re: from Ukraine
Hi Friends
Please enjoy the situation to the fullest...
What else can you do ?
Thinking of you with sweet memories of The Ukraine
Many greetings
- toke
meaning has its own flow
become one with it
and flow
On 25/05/05 16:21, "Elwin and Joan" <elwinandj...@yahoo.com> wrote:
--- jotoep...@boscop.de wrote:
Dear colleagues,
"right now Tuesday evening a thunderstorm has shut down all
electricity. We are sitting at the dark bar drinking Moldavian
Chardonnay wondering whether we will be able to send this message.
We hope this reaches you in good spirits at breakfast while we are
enjoying Ukrainian folk singing by a group next to the bar."
Jo and Michael,
I am there with you! I can touch it, taste it, feel it!
Keep the lights out :-)
eg
Elwin Guild
Future Development International
Baltimore
elwinandj...@yahoo.com
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Date: Wed, 25 May 2005 17:03:02 +0100
From: Andriy Klymyshyn <andk...@yahoo.com>
Subject: Greetings from Ukrainian OS
Dear friends,
Ukrainian participants of the first training for OS
facilitators are again with you! This is our fourth
day in the Open Space! We are happy about it!
We experienced some technical difficulties yesterday
and had no opportunities to share our thoughts and
emotions with you.
Now we are here again!
We are proud to tell you that today, using 'highly
scientific technology' of lottery, a lucky part of us
got the chance to facilitate our OS 'I am an OS
facilitator'!
It was really a great adventure for all of us!
Do you remember your first experience? Can you share
it with us, please?
Lots of open love from Ukrainian Open Space.
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Date: Wed, 25 May 2005 19:07:54 +0200
From: Agneta Setterwall <agneta.setterw...@telia.com>
Subject: Re: Greetings from Ukrainian OS
Congratulations!
Yes, I remember my first. Even if I was prepared I did several mistakes,
saying things in the wrong order etc. Still everything went very well,
the not so big group wanted to be effective, so they understood even
what I did not tell them. I was a little ashamed, and at the same time
happy and proud. Afterwords I thought that I could have practiced in
advance in my own livingroom in a circle of my childrens dolls and
teddybears...I still think that is a good idea, if you are a little
nervous to do it for the first time.
cheerfull from Sweden!
Agneta Setterwall
Andriy Klymyshyn wrote:
Dear friends,
Ukrainian participants of the first training for OS
facilitators are again with you! This is our fourth
day in the Open Space! We are happy about it!
We experienced some technical difficulties yesterday
and had no opportunities to share our thoughts and
emotions with you.
Now we are here again!
We are proud to tell you that today, using 'highly
scientific technology' of lottery, a lucky part of us
got the chance to facilitate our OS 'I am an OS
facilitator'!
It was really a great adventure for all of us!
Do you remember your first experience? Can you share
it with us, please?
Lots of open love from Ukrainian Open Space.
___________________________________________________________
Yahoo! Messenger - NEW crystal clear PC to PC calling worldwide with
voicemail http://uk.messenger.yahoo.com
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Date: Wed, 25 May 2005 17:44:42 -0400
From: "Douglas D. Germann, Sr." <76066....@compuserve.com>
Subject: Thoughts on Self Organizing
Cheryl--
Transformative Community Building--that is an evocative phrase, one I
like,
a lot. How did you choose it? What does it say to you, Cheryl?
I also love that "Community Weaver" title.
:-Doug. Germann
Seeking people making community change.
Community Disorganizer
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Date: Thu, 26 May 2005 07:47:23 +1000
From: John Rapp <john.r...@peithene.com>
Subject: Re: replacing?
Right on the button, michael. Lao tzu and gerry spence have written
eloquently on this. Come to think of it: so has/did immanuel kant --
and perhaps/probably a few others ... J.
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Michael Herman
Sent: Monday, May 23, 2005 9:33 AM
To: osl...@listserv.boisestate.edu
Subject: replacing?
this might be cutting things a bit fine, but as we know, there are
subtle differences in openspace that make a bigdifference. so try this
on if you like...
many times we hear os talked about as a "tool." makes sense enough.
and what i've been suggesting where i can is that bulletin board,
marketplace, circle, etc are tools. open space is a practice that is
the skillful use and integration of many of these tools.
i thnk it's worth making a distinction in this way not only about open
space, but about other tings as well. perhaps the thing with this
replacing business is not so much replacing os with something else, but
replacing a 'tool' mind with a practice mind.
m
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Date: Wed, 25 May 2005 15:41:19 -0700
From: Lisa Heft <lisah...@openingspace.net>
Subject: Re: Craig's question about Strategic Planning
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Hello, Craig -
You wrote:
<I am trying to thinking through the concept of Strategic Planning.
...As I understand it, OS make space for it to emerge in a healthy way?
After a group senses an emerging order, does one plan, does one get out
of the way so it can happen, or a little of all?>
I have had clients do great work with strategic planning and Open Space.
One shining example was a client (a local Catholic Diocese) who
extensively surveyed their constituency for months before the Open
Space, to get at what were the critical issues that deserved attention
(therefore funding). Via surveying and clustering, they narrowed these
down to 3 critical issues.
(by the way the 3 issues were
- Including Youth and Young Adults
- Including Lay People in the Church
- Living Catholic Social Teachings)
Then they invited whomever wanted to (115 people came - ages 14-75, 4
languages spoken) to two weekends (2 months apart) of Open Space - to
think of strategies and programs under these 3 headings. Then they
converged them into 3 items in each of the 3 categories. These were the
items/projects to be funded for the coming 2 years. (they added a 4th
critical issue: infrastructure - in other words, they looked for and
made available the funding, staffing and other resources that would
support whatever would come of this 'Critical Issues Workshop'
(strategic planning process). The results of these two Open Space
weekends' work became the strategic plan / the Pastoral Plan for the
next few years.
During these next several years they provided training to the
constituents on how to apply for funding for programs fitting into these
issue / funding areas, supported actions and programs coming out of all
this, and they're still going strong on those programs (which are
growing and changing with the times) a few years later.
So rather than an executive team getting together in a vaccum to write
funding structure around already existing programs/projects (hoping to
shore them up for the coming year with a vague idea of projected
growth/needs) they did some darn fine research, co-created a vision with
concrete strategies/programs supporting it, and strong funding behind
it, and at the same time the entire Diocese carried the seeds and
flowers of that plan back out into their community and their ongoing
work.
Dream client.
Cheers from Berkeley,
Lisa
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O p e n i n g S p a c e
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<p class=3DMsoPlainText><font size=3D2 face=3D"Trebuchet MS"><span =
style=3D'font-size:
10.0pt'>Hello, Craig -<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=3DMsoPlainText><font size=3D2 face=3D"Trebuchet MS"><span =
style=3D'font-size:
10.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=3DMsoPlainText><font size=3D2 face=3D"Trebuchet MS"><span =
style=3D'font-size:
10.0pt'>You wrote:<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=3DMsoPlainText style=3D'margin-left:.25in'><i =
style=3D'mso-bidi-font-style:
normal'><font size=3D2 face=3D"Trebuchet MS"><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;
font-style:italic;mso-bidi-font-style:normal'><I am trying to =
thinking
through the concept of Strategic Planning.<span =
style=3D'mso-spacerun:yes'>
</span>...As I understand it, OS make space for it to emerge in a =
healthy way?
After a group senses an emerging order, does one plan, does one get out =
of the
way so it can happen, or a little of =
all?><o:p></o:p></span></font></i></p>
<p class=3DMsoPlainText><font size=3D2 face=3D"Trebuchet MS"><span =
style=3D'font-size:
10.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=3DMsoPlainText><font size=3D2 face=3D"Trebuchet MS"><span =
style=3D'font-size:
10.0pt'>I have had clients do great work with strategic planning and =
Open
Space.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=3DMsoPlainText><font size=3D2 face=3D"Trebuchet MS"><span =
style=3D'font-size:
10.0pt'><br>
One shining example was a client (a local Catholic Diocese) who =
extensively
surveyed their constituency for months before the Open Space, to get at =
what
were the critical issues that deserved attention (therefore =
funding).<span
style=3D'mso-spacerun:yes'> </span>Via surveying and clustering, =
they
narrowed these down to 3 critical issues.<span =
style=3D'mso-spacerun:yes'>
</span><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=3DMsoPlainText><font size=3D2 face=3D"Trebuchet MS"><span =
style=3D'font-size:
10.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=3DMsoPlainText><font size=3D2 face=3D"Trebuchet MS"><span =
style=3D'font-size:
10.0pt'>(<span class=3DGramE>by</span> the way the 3 issues were =
<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=3DMsoPlainText><font size=3D2 face=3D"Trebuchet MS"><span =
style=3D'font-size:
10.0pt'>- Including Youth and Young Adults<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=3DMsoPlainText><font size=3D2 face=3D"Trebuchet MS"><span =
style=3D'font-size:
10.0pt'>- Including Lay People in the =
Church<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=3DMsoPlainText><font size=3D2 face=3D"Trebuchet MS"><span =
style=3D'font-size:
10.0pt'>- Living Catholic Social Teachings)<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=3DMsoPlainText><font size=3D2 face=3D"Trebuchet MS"><span =
style=3D'font-size:
10.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=3DMsoPlainText><font size=3D2 face=3D"Trebuchet MS"><span =
style=3D'font-size:
10.0pt'>Then they invited whomever wanted to (115 people came - ages =
14-75, 4
languages spoken) to two weekends (2 months apart) of Open Space - to =
think of
strategies and programs under these 3 headings.<span
style=3D'mso-spacerun:yes'> </span>Then they <span =
class=3DGramE>converged</span>
them into 3 items in each of the 3 categories.<span
style=3D'mso-spacerun:yes'> </span>These were the items/projects =
to be
funded for the coming 2 years. <span
style=3D'mso-spacerun:yes'> </span>(they added a =
4<sup>th</sup> critical
issue: infrastructure – in other words, they looked for and made
available the funding, staffing and other resources that would support =
whatever
would come of this ‘Critical Issues Workshop’ (strategic =
planning
process).<span style=3D'mso-spacerun:yes'> </span>The results of =
these two
Open Space weekends’ work became the strategic plan / the Pastoral =
Plan
for the next few years.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=3DMsoPlainText><font size=3D2 face=3D"Trebuchet MS"><span =
style=3D'font-size:
10.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=3DMsoPlainText><font size=3D2 face=3D"Trebuchet MS"><span =
style=3D'font-size:
10.0pt'>During these next several years they provided training to the =
constituents
on how to apply for funding for programs fitting into these issue / =
funding
areas, supported actions and programs coming out of all this, and =
they're still
going strong on those programs (which are growing and changing with the =
times) a
few years later.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=3DMsoPlainText><font size=3D2 face=3D"Trebuchet MS"><span =
style=3D'font-size:
10.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=3DMsoPlainText><font size=3D2 face=3D"Trebuchet MS"><span =
style=3D'font-size:
10.0pt'>So rather than an executive team getting together in a <span
class=3DSpellE>vaccum</span> to write funding structure around already =
existing
programs/projects (hoping to shore them up for the coming year with a =
vague
idea of projected growth/needs) they did some darn fine research, =
co-created a
vision with concrete strategies/programs supporting it, and strong =
funding
behind it, and at the same time the entire Diocese carried the seeds and
flowers of that plan back out into their community and their ongoing =
work.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=3DMsoPlainText><font size=3D2 face=3D"Trebuchet MS"><span =
style=3D'font-size:
10.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=3DMsoPlainText><font size=3D2 face=3D"Trebuchet MS"><span =
style=3D'font-size:
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10.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=3DMsoPlainText><font size=3D2 face=3D"Trebuchet MS"><span =
style=3D'font-size:
10.0pt'>Cheers from Berkeley,<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=3DMsoPlainText><font size=3D2 face=3D"Trebuchet MS"><span =
style=3D'font-size:
10.0pt'>Lisa<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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Date: Wed, 25 May 2005 16:56:08 -0700
From: Norman Pefley <pef...@sprynet.com>
Subject: Re: leverage points
I have enjoyed learning from this list since I was first introduced to OS
by Lisa Heft in 2003. I would just like to add my thoughts to this thread.
For me, the principle "whoever comes are the right people" is not about
judgment, but rather about a mindset.
For example, which group is likely to be more successful, one that takes
the view that "whoever comes are the right people" or one that believes
that "we don't have the right people here to discuss what we need to
discuss"? To me, it's clear that the former will be more successful, since
they start from the premise that they have the right group. And, through
discussion, they may determine that they need to find others. In other
words, we have the right people right now, and we may want to see if
others
are interested.
All of this is not to say that, as Masud's comments indicate, efforts
should not be made to invite a wide spectrum of participants. It's just
that, in the moment, in the OS group, adopting the mindset that "whoever
comes are the right people" seems to me to be quite effective.
Warm regards,
Norman Pefley
San Francisco
[Original Message]
From: Masud Sheikh <mashe...@cogeco.ca>
To: <osl...@listserv.boisestate.edu>
Date: 5/25/05 6:25:05 AM
Subject: Re: leverage points
Therese Fitzpatrick <therese.fitzpatr...@gmail.com> wrote:
>The principle "whoever comes are the right people" is, for me, the
>most important principle in open space. And beyond open space, I
>believe it is an essential principle for the solutions to intractable
>human problems to emerge.
Therese, I understand what you are saying, and what Harrison has been
saying. The principle has a lot to do with "self-organizing" and not
enough to do with the "goals of the system". Harrison confirmed his
judgment, when he said only those who CARED enough to come, came.
Who comes depends on so many other things. Please have a look at the
thread named "access" "access..to space" and related threads from April
(and perhaps earlier). Yesterday, there was a wonderful example about
access in Gerard Muller's "Story from the Field: talking stick", where
there was access to disadavanteged people.
Consider one simple point: To what extent do invitations depend on who is
giving the invitations? This happens whether you invite someone out to
coffee, to your home, or to an OS Event. Would it make a difference as to
who came if the wording of the principle got changed?
I find the word 'RIGHT" judgmental rather than value neutral. If we say
instead "those who felt invited", that says something about both the
host/s and the invitee/s. Re strangers, they would "feel invited" in some
way, for them to participate. The invitation may be implicit rather than
explicit.
And now Therese, it is time to use my two feet, and leave this space for
other list members - to contemplate, participate, or move on from
Take care
Masud
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Date: Wed, 25 May 2005 17:13:27 -0700
From: Therese Fitzpatrick <therese.fitzpatr...@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: leverage points & Control --I wish I had it
I am sending you a comforting hush, Wendy. Nothing has gone awry.
Whatever has happened is the only thing that could or should. In the
next moment, something else will happen and then something else again.
A thought experiment, of all things, does not have one right perfect
answer.
On 5/24/05, Wendy Farmer-O'Neil <we...@xe.net> wrote:
Absolutely. After I posted I realized that prescription was the wrong
word
and would probably twist my intention. I don't have the right word yet.
Will try again when I find it.
Again, we seem to be issuing invitations that are going awry. My
invitation was merely to engage in a thought experiment and see what new
learning or insight it might reveal...Ah, well...
Thanks,
W.
----- Original Message -----
From: Harrison Owen
To: osl...@listserv.boisestate.edu
Sent: Tuesday, May 24, 2005 5:39 PM
Subject: Re: leverage points & Control --I wish I had it
Wendy -- the principles were not (as is usually the case) worked out in
advance as prescriptions of what ought to happen. Rather they were
observations by myself and many others as to what actually did happen.
The
same would be true with the Law. Not an "ought" but an "is."
Is this right? I don't know, but that is the way it happened. Whenever I
say
Principles and Law -- I always smile, because I know it/they are not what
people usually expect.
Harrison
Harrison Owen
7808 River Falls Dr.
Potomac, MD 20854
USA
301-365-2093
207-763-3261 (summer)
website www.openspaceworld.com
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----- Original Message -----
From: Wendy Farmer-O'Neil
To: osl...@listserv.boisestate.edu
Sent: Tuesday, May 24, 2005 7:58 PM
Subject: Re: leverage points & Control --I wish I had it
Hmmm...this is interesting...
I guess I made an assumption somewhere along the line here, that the
actual
principles of OST were freedom, self-organization, responsibility,
caring,
maturity, invitation, positivity, productive chaos, self-authorship,
etc....And that the things we call "The Principles" and stick up on the
wall
are actually just part of the container we create to hold chaos at a
manageable level for productive self-organization. Let me clarify a
bit...I
think I am seeing "The Principles" as what we use to inspire confidence
in
the process for the participants...most of whom have never encountered OS
before and find it a bit unsettling at first. They need some reassurance
that what is happening is normal, okay and will work--in order to relax
and
give it try. In this regard, I think a certain amount of prescription
would
be okay, if not perhaps even necessary? I may be completely wrong.
This leads me to wondering...How would things change if we just had the
Law?
Not that i'm suggesting this at all...it just makes me go hmmmm....
And yonder bi-furcated post-metamorphosis caterpillar with the ricepaper
fans causes updrafts of great significance in the Easternmost Orient once
again...
Well...that is how Bi-Coloured Python Rock Snakes always talk.
O Best Beloved...
Wendy
PS, Harrison: I'll bring my Kipling to Halifax if you'll bring
yours...;-)
----- Original Message -----
From: "Masud Sheikh" <mashe...@cogeco.ca>
To: <osl...@listserv.boisestate.edu>
Sent: Tuesday, May 24, 2005 3:40 PM
Subject: Re: leverage points
> Harrison Owen <hho...@comcast.net> wrote:
>>Actually, I don't think it is as much of an "assumption" as a blinding
> flash of the obvious. Those who came are the only ones there! And the
> reason they are there is that they cared enough to come. That does not
> make all those who didn't come bad, immoral, or terrible -- but the
> fact
> of the matter is that they didn't care enough to come. Now maybe the
> next
> time they would feel differently -- care more. Make the necessary
> arrangements, or sacrifices! But for this particular Open Space --
> those
> who care came. And CARING is the sole criteria for entry. That alone
> makes
> them the "right people." No Caring -- no come...
>>
>>And why would this be true? Well, I think Open Space is all about
>>passion
> and responsibility. And if you don't CARE -- no passion, and little
> hope
> of accepting responsibility. Who on earth would take responsibility for
> something they don't care about?
>>
> We have been through this before, Harrison. I find it judgmental (being
> judgmental myself, I know judgment when I see it :-)) How about
> changing
> it to: "Those who felt invited, came"?
> Masud
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Date: Thu, 26 May 2005 02:01:07 +0100
From: Michael Herman <mjher...@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: leverage points & Control --I wish I had it
sometimes when it seems that i have some extra time and space in
myself or in the room when i 'm doing the opening briefing, i
sometimes note for participants that the principles were not designed
in advance, 'not prescription, but 'description,' i sometimes say,
'based on the experience of folks who'd been using this approach for
some time.'
and yet it is also true that i am writing, scripting these posters adn
principles before these people, my audience in taht moment, have
actually had that experience. so easy it is for me to forget how
strange these things must still sound to normal folks, 'real humans,'
as harrison sometimes says. <grin> and if i didn't think they gave
some shape to the space, then i might feel better about leaving them
off. sometimes i do leave them off, but mostly i don't .
this also reminds me that not so long ago, harrison asked about not
doing one more thing, and we spent some time stripping away the few
bits that make open space 'a thing we do.' if i remember right,
mostly we agreed that we could 'not do' just about everything, but we
dare not leave out the Law.
michaelh
On 5/26/05, Therese Fitzpatrick <therese.fitzpatr...@gmail.com> wrote:
I am sending you a comforting hush, Wendy. Nothing has gone awry.
Whatever has happened is the only thing that could or should. In the
next moment, something else will happen and then something else again.
A thought experiment, of all things, does not have one right perfect
answer.
On 5/24/05, Wendy Farmer-O'Neil <we...@xe.net> wrote:
>
> Absolutely. After I posted I realized that prescription was the wrong
> word
> and would probably twist my intention. I don't have the right word
> yet.
> Will try again when I find it.
>
> Again, we seem to be issuing invitations that are going awry. My
> invitation was merely to engage in a thought experiment and see what
> new
> learning or insight it might reveal...Ah, well...
>
>
> Thanks,
> W.
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Harrison Owen
> To: osl...@listserv.boisestate.edu
>
> Sent: Tuesday, May 24, 2005 5:39 PM
> Subject: Re: leverage points & Control --I wish I had it
>
>
> Wendy -- the principles were not (as is usually the case) worked out in
> advance as prescriptions of what ought to happen. Rather they were
> observations by myself and many others as to what actually did happen.
> The
> same would be true with the Law. Not an "ought" but an "is."
>
> Is this right? I don't know, but that is the way it happened. Whenever
> I say
> Principles and Law -- I always smile, because I know it/they are not
> what
> people usually expect.
>
> Harrison
>
>
> Harrison Owen
> 7808 River Falls Dr.
> Potomac, MD 20854
> USA
> 301-365-2093
> 207-763-3261 (summer)
> website www.openspaceworld.com
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> From: Wendy Farmer-O'Neil
> To: osl...@listserv.boisestate.edu
> Sent: Tuesday, May 24, 2005 7:58 PM
> Subject: Re: leverage points & Control --I wish I had it
>
> Hmmm...this is interesting...
>
> I guess I made an assumption somewhere along the line here, that the
> actual
> principles of OST were freedom, self-organization, responsibility,
> caring,
> maturity, invitation, positivity, productive chaos, self-authorship,
> etc....And that the things we call "The Principles" and stick up on the
> wall
> are actually just part of the container we create to hold chaos at a
> manageable level for productive self-organization. Let me clarify a
> bit...I
> think I am seeing "The Principles" as what we use to inspire confidence
> in
> the process for the participants...most of whom have never encountered
> OS
> before and find it a bit unsettling at first. They need some
> reassurance
> that what is happening is normal, okay and will work--in order to relax
> and
> give it try. In this regard, I think a certain amount of prescription
> would
> be okay, if not perhaps even necessary? I may be completely wrong.
>
> This leads me to wondering...How would things change if we just had the
> Law?
> Not that i'm suggesting this at all...it just makes me go hmmmm....
>
> And yonder bi-furcated post-metamorphosis caterpillar with the
> ricepaper
> fans causes updrafts of great significance in the Easternmost Orient
> once
> again...
> Well...that is how Bi-Coloured Python Rock Snakes always talk.
> O Best Beloved...
> Wendy
>
> PS, Harrison: I'll bring my Kipling to Halifax if you'll bring
> yours...;-)
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> Sent: Tuesday, May 24, 2005 3:40 PM
> Subject: Re: leverage points
>
>
> > Harrison Owen <hho...@comcast.net> wrote:
> >>Actually, I don't think it is as much of an "assumption" as a
> >>blinding
> > flash of the obvious. Those who came are the only ones there! And
> > the
> > reason they are there is that they cared enough to come. That does
> > not
> > make all those who didn't come bad, immoral, or terrible -- but the
> > fact
> > of the matter is that they didn't care enough to come. Now maybe the
> > next
> > time they would feel differently -- care more. Make the necessary
> > arrangements, or sacrifices! But for this particular Open Space --
> > those
> > who care came. And CARING is the sole criteria for entry. That alone
> > makes
> > them the "right people." No Caring -- no come...
> >>
> >>And why would this be true? Well, I think Open Space is all about
> >>passion
> > and responsibility. And if you don't CARE -- no passion, and little
> > hope
> > of accepting responsibility. Who on earth would take responsibility
> > for
> > something they don't care about?
> >>
> > We have been through this before, Harrison. I find it judgmental
> > (being
> > judgmental myself, I know judgment when I see it :-)) How about
> > changing
> > it to: "Those who felt invited, came"?
> > Masud
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Date: Wed, 25 May 2005 21:21:21 -0500
From: Pat Black <patbl...@paulbunyan.net>
Subject: leverage points
Date: Tue, 24 May 2005 12:50:38 -0600
From: Masud Sheikh <mashe...@cogeco.ca>
Subject: Re: leverage points
<That humans are self revealing in all their actions and communications.
Masud asked
<Thank you Pat, but is that all?
Well for me yes that is the only assumption I can make about individuals
or corporations for that matter. I mentioned once on this list that I
came form a family with language issues. I had a severe speech
impediment that limited people's ability to understand my words and
their is a history of generational illiteracy. So living in a cultural
where competency is dependent on speech and reading you have to learn to
demonstrate competency in other ways. I watch actions more than
listening to words. Actions describe the entities making them whether
they are people, fish, bear or corporations. They can not help but be
themselves.
When you mentioned IBM I would be watching to see what they did to
accomplish this decree. That would reveal to me who they are. These
words have no real meaning to me without the action that follows.
For instance, with my long-time employer IBM - with which I worked
through
its best and worst phases - an unsaid assumption seemed to be "We
have got
it right so often; as has happened before, we will win in the end".
I can't speak to Therese's statement about what she thinks the assumptions
are. I live in my box and the only thing I know is that people are always
revealing themselves to me in every word and action if I look and listen.
I don't have to put any kind of spin on anything, it will all spin on its
own.
I do personally emabrace the principles and the law. They both resonate
truth for me. I would agree with you that Harrison's description of
whoever comes are the right people is judgemental. Caring implies that is
possible to not care and that all requires judgement to me. So I
understand your hit on that. I don't find the language in the stated
principle a problem so much although I phrase that principle Whoever comes
are the only ones who could come. And that would seem to fit with
Harrison's blinding flash statement that they are the only ones there. I
totally believe that but I find the word care to be judgemental and I
don't find caring the only crtieria for entry, although I think I get the
intention of Harrison's words. For me, caring denotes a cognitive
experience and I don't think cognition is the only thing that can get you
there. I actually think it can keep you from "there" at least as often as
it gets you there. Serendipity is not caring it is more like pl!
acement. And I believe serendipity can provide entrance. I think the
arrival does signify something about the person. It does tell me
something about the person. It tells me at least that they are there and
it tells me nothing of those who are not present.
<Actually, I don't think it is as much of an "assumption" as a blinding =
<flash of the obvious. Those who came are the only ones there! And the =
<reason they are there is that they cared enough to come. That does not =
<make all those who didn't come bad, immoral, or terrible -- but the fact
=
<of the matter is that they didn't care enough to come. Now maybe the =
<next time they would feel differently -- care more. Make the necessary =
<arrangements, or sacrifices! But for this particular Open Space -- =
<those who care came. And CARING is the sole criteria for entry. That =
<alone makes them the "right people." No Caring -- no come...
Therese's story or one of Harrison's experiences speaks more to me of the
serendipity aspect. Actually, I believe in the intelligence of creation
to call into the mix those that should be there. In my believe system
creation is ongoing and creation itself has the intelligence to create
itself.
< This principle embraces anyone who stumbles in from the cosmos, such as
the janitor at a <strategic planning session for a shoe manufacturer who
gives the company an idea
<that leads it to developing an entirely new product line (this is a
<true story Harrison tells): in such an example, the janitor was not
<invited, he was crossing the room.
<I love this principle more than any other. I do not consider it a
<mere assumption but a core paradigm.
I do not come to open space from any kind of professional facilitator or
corporate background. I have done social justice, kind of grassroots
community organizing for close to 40 years and I am a visual artist. I
understand open space through that lens. What I can say for certain based
on my own experience is that being in open space is like making art. I
may enter with assumptions, ideas and passions but I must be willing to
let all of that go so that "it", the expereince can become what it has
come to be and I will experience the awesomeness of creation. I can
participate in the becoming or not but I never feel like I can control it
or even know it really. I am only a channel for the physical
manifestation of creation becoming itself. I do think about being an
ingredient in that becoming and decide what flavor I want to contribute.
Do I want to be the emulsion that provides a matrix for all the flavors to
suspend themselves in or do I want to be a chili and heat th!
ings up while I flavor the broth. The flavor I add is up to me. I don't
always like the soup so sometimes I chose to get out. I don't always like
my own art work, clearly, it has not come in to being to communicate
something to me. I try to be present in a way that will allow the work to
get to the person who has the capacity to work with it.
<So? I am still stuck
<Masud
I wonder if you are stuck or floating around in search of a mooring place?
I let my own heart be my mooring place so I can float without concern.
Know your own heart, you were given a good one.
So Masud I don't know if that helps to clarify what I meant by my original
statement or made it even more muddy but it is what I could respond.
pat
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Date: Wed, 25 May 2005 22:56:28 -0400
From: "Douglas D. Germann, Sr." <76066....@compuserve.com>
Subject: a rather different place
Harrison--
<< I guess I come from a rather different place.
This phrase, or something similar to it, seems to my memory to have
appeared in your writings many times.
Would it not make a rich title and theme for Harrison Owen's
(auto)biography? What different place do you come from? And to what
different place are you headed to sit the question? I ask only partially
in
jest.
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Date: Wed, 25 May 2005 20:43:00 -0700
From: Wendy Farmer-O'Neil <we...@xe.net>
Subject: Re: leverage points
Pat, this is wonderful!
Therese's story or one of Harrison's experiences speaks more to me of the
serendipity aspect. Actually, I believe in the intelligence of creation
to call into the mix those that should be there. In my believe system
creation is ongoing and creation itself has the intelligence to create
itself.
What I can say for certain based on my own experience is that being in
open space is like making art. I may enter with assumptions, ideas and
passions but I must be willing to let all of that go so that "it", the
experience can become what it has come to be and I will experience the
awesomeness of creation. I can participate in the becoming or not but I
never feel like I can control it or even know it really. I am only a
channel for the physical manifestation of creation becoming itself. I do
think about being an ingredient in that becoming and decide what flavor I
want to contribute. Do I want to be the emulsion that provides a matrix
for all the flavors to suspend themselves in or do I want to be a chili
and heat th!
ings up while I flavor the broth. The flavor I add is up to me. I don't
always like the soup so sometimes I chose to get out. I don't always
like
my own art work, clearly, it has not come in to being to communicate
something to me. I try to be present in a way that will allow the work
to
get to the person who has the capacity to work with it.
pat
Your words resonate very strongly for me--very close to my own experience
and beliefs. I think that what you call serendipity, I call
synchronicity.
But I am loving how you have got me thinking about serendipity--it's a far
more organic and human word. It has a wonderful onomatopoeia--a lovely
combination of serenity and dipsy-doodling...really descriptive of what
it's
like to be in that space/way--a vast inner spaciousness and calm combined
with a playfulness or playful willingness to engage with whatever
emerges...an openness to accept the invitation of creation to do whatever
work lies before us :)
Thanks so much,
Love,
Wendy
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Date: Tue, 24 May 2005 12:50:38 -0600
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Date: Thu, 26 May 2005 05:47:23 +0200
From: WeBe TrainConsult <wb-traincons...@gmx.net>
Subject: Re: Thoughts on Self Organizing
Cheryl, Douglas and all,
yes "Community Weaver" is a great title. I love it especially, because my
Surname (Weber) means weaver in english, and I try to make sense of and
utilize this "given" and therefore got an implicit understanding of my
self as a community weaving practicioner over the years. You put the word
into the open, made it explicit. I will use it from now on to explain what
I am doing. So I have to thank you.
Bernd
Am Wed, 25 May 2005 17:44:42 -0400, schrieb Douglas D. Germann, Sr.:
Cheryl--
Transformative Community Building--that is an evocative phrase, one
I like, a lot. How did you choose it? What does it say to you,
Cheryl?
I also love that "Community Weaver" title.
:-Doug. Germann
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Subject: Re: Craig
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Years ago I found a great article from McKinsey about why strategic
plannin=
g=20
doesn't work. You can download it here:
http://www.chriscorrigan.com/facilitation/Strategic%20planning%20doesn't%20=
work.pdf
Chris
On 5/24/05, Harrison Owen <hho...@comcast.net> wrote:
=20
I agree that planning is useful. But it is also important to recognize=20
what Planning does. And it does not create the future! At best it is an=
=20
imperfect map of what we THINK (hope, expect)the future might be.
Plannin=
g=20
documents are very useful for checking off things along the way (to the=
=20
future). They are miserable when it come to prediction. This is not all
b=
ad.=20
for in many situations -- what you planed is so much less than what you=
=20
could accomplish -- that is you reached you "planned goals" -- you would
=
be=20
severely sub-optimized (to speak in the acceptable jargon.
Harrison
Harrison Owen
7808 River Falls Dr.
Potomac, MD 20854
USA
301-365-2093
207-763-3261 (summer)
website www.openspaceworld.com <http://www.openspaceworld.com>
www.openspaceworld.com <http://www.openspaceworld.com>=20
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*To:* osl...@listserv.boisestate.edu=20
*Sent:* Tuesday, May 24, 2005 9:04 AM
*Subject:* Craig
=20
Harrison and all:
=20
I ma trying to thinkg through the concept of Strategic Planning. It seems
to me that Strategic Planning is somewhat outdated and a concept that is
overly rationalistic while lacking depth and soul/spirit in many cases,=
=20
but
often weighted down with anxiety and lack of productivity (Or maybe I=20
should
say the way we often talk about it.). Any more, is the word, "watching
fo=
r
the emerging order" a better way to talk about and reflecting on
"plannin=
g
for" the future? If so, what are the laws of emergence? As one listens or
watches for emerging order, for what is one or a group watching?
=20
As I understand it, OS make space for it to emerge in a healthy way?
Afte=
r=20
a
group senses an emerging order, does one plan, does one get out of the
wa=
y
so uit can happen, or a little of all?
=20
Any thoughts?
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I hope this makes some sense in its nonsense. I am still thinking this
trhough.
=20
Thanks!
Craig
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<div>Harrison Owen<br>7808 River Falls Dr.<br>Potomac, MD =20
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<div><br></div>Harrison and all:<br><br>I ma trying to thinkg through
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concept of Strategic Planning. It seems<br>to me that Strategic
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is somewhat outdated and a concept that is<br>overly rationalistic while=
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lacking depth and soul/spirit in many cases, but<br>often weighted down
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anxiety and lack of productivity (Or maybe I should<br>say the way we
oft=
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talk about it.). Any more, is the word, "watching for<br>the
e=
merging=20
order" a better way to talk about and reflecting on
"planning<b=
r>for" the=20
future? If so, what are the laws of emergence? As one
listens=
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or<br>watches for emerging order, for what is one or a group=20
watching?<br><br>As I understand it, OS make space for it to emerge in a=
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healthy way? After a<br>group senses an emerging order, does one plan,
do=
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one get out of the way<br>so uit can happen, or a little of
all?<br><br>A=
ny=20
thoughts?<br><br>I hope this makes some sense in its nonsense. I
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still thinking=20
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