For me, i tried to map the territory i found myself in life...but then i wanted to destroy all the maps.
Sometimes i need maps, sometimes i prefer getting lost to discover more then any map can show me. So it's a critical balance...i check myself, if i am interested i read....otherwise i leave it. I must say though; i enjoy every dialogue, every contact much more when i can destroy all the maps about myself and others. Going, living through conflicts, talking to people, sharing...opening space to dialgue or not being able to open space teaches me more then any book. Funda ----- Original Message ----- From: Chris Corrigan To: osl...@listserv.boisestate.edu Sent: Tuesday, August 30, 2005 8:49 PM Subject: Re: An OS "critique" and response Tracy, my own take on this stuff is that OST has actually led me to things like Spiral Dynamics and Integral Theory and not the other way around. I think OST facilitation is fundamentally a practice first, and the theory comes later once you see what is going on and get curious about how it all happens. For me maps like this always help me to help a client to understand the deeper implications of what is going on, why OST seems to be (and is) so transformational. But it's important to use language that works for you and for the sponsor. Ken Wilber is one person whose thinking has helped a lot. Michael Herman's work has really been most useful in adopting this stuff to OST for me. And there are many others, including Stuart Kauffman, Meg Wheatley, Angeles Arrien, David Bohm, Steven Johnson, Peggy Holman and Anne Stadler, Alan Stewart, Christina Baldwin, Fritjof Capra. Pema Chodron, Otto Scharmer, Adam Kahane, William Issacs and Peter Senge who have all been influential in helping to map the territory I find myself on as a result of using OST. Cheers, Chris On 8/30/05, Envision Halifax <i...@envisionhalifax.ca> wrote: I am now kicking myself a bit for missing the session in Halifax on Spiral Dynamics but at the time, the topic sounded strange for someone new on the scene. In reading this very interesting discussion I have collected a few pieces from people that brought me to a question. As someone new, trying to learn and navigate the sea of information: Is there real value in learning about Spiral Dynamics as it relates to opening space and for those of you who are familiar with SD, how has it helped you with opening space? (I think Funda was starting to get close to connecting this with her post) Pieces of posts on this topic that made me consider why I would take time to learn more about SD… I don't have a clue who said what to whom -- but what I do know is that when you open some space -- folks get to work. The rest of it is kind of immaterial. (T-1, T-17 --). Harrison Owen …Anyway, I think systems that create hierarchies are inherently faulty, no help for it. That includes programs that 'certify' somebody to do something they are already perfectly capable of doing all by themselves or by just following instructions with a lot of heart. Paul Everett ...all human beings move in and out of levels of development, levels of consciousness and levels of understanding. I might be green about social issues, orange about art (orange is second tier, above green) and red about homophobia in the same moment. Few human beings live frozen, stuck in just one way of being for all issues in life. As a workplace meeting takes place, for example, participants might move in and out of memes like shifting sands. Tree Fitzpatrick I really respect all of the thoughtfulness and work that people have put into posts on this topic and others. I will visit the links, thank you for the resources. Tracy Tracy Boyer Volunteer Coordinator Envision Halifax PO Box 941 Halifax CRO, NS B3J 2V9 902.425.5741 Fx. 902.425.6904 www.envisionhalifax.ca * * ========================================================== osl...@listserv.boisestate.edu ------------------------------ To subscribe, unsubscribe, change your options, view the archives of osl...@listserv.boisestate.edu: http://listserv.boisestate.edu/archives/oslist.html To learn about OpenSpaceEmailLists and OSLIST FAQs: http://www.openspaceworld.org/oslist -- CHRIS CORRIGAN Consultation - Facilitation Open Space Technology Weblog: http://www.chriscorrigan.com/parkinglot Site: http://www.chriscorrigan.com * * ========================================================== osl...@listserv.boisestate.edu ------------------------------ To subscribe, unsubscribe, change your options, view the archives of osl...@listserv.boisestate.edu: http://listserv.boisestate.edu/archives/oslist.html To learn about OpenSpaceEmailLists and OSLIST FAQs: http://www.openspaceworld.org/oslist