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Topics of the day:
1. Opening Space on the Gulf Coast (3)
2. Mentoring Circles
3. Contribute directly to NAACP
4. Stammitsch in NYC (2)
5. New Orleans violence: conversation's role?
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Date: Mon, 5 Sep 2005 12:53:25 -0400
From: Harrison Owen <hho...@comcast.net>
Subject: Opening Space on the Gulf Coast
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When 9/11 happened, after the immediate shock had worn off, I found =
myself musing -- "Given what I know/have experienced, what can we do =
now?" I confess that the answer to that question was a little slow in =
coming, but when it did, the arrival occurred pretty much in the nature =
of a blinding flash of the obvious. Open Space! And I did my best to =
spell out the details in what became, "The Practice of Peace." This time =
around, the old mind seems to have worked a little bit faster -- or =
maybe the obvious was just a bit more obvious -- and the answer is =
precisely the same. Open Space!
The conditions are absolutely perfect. We have a real clear issue: =
"Rebuilding a shattered society." Lots of diversity in terms of those =
involved, their opinions and needs. Mountains of complexity, plenty of =
conflict, and for sure the decision time was yesterday. In terms of Open =
Space, it just doesn't get any better than that. And as we all know, OS =
is fast, cheap, and effective -- exactly what you need in a situation =
approaching total disaster.=20
Ok -- now what? It might feel real good if a whole bunch of us jumped on =
planes, trains and cars. We might even get our faces on the Evening =
News, but I doubt it would do much good. If nothing else, our presence =
would only add to the burdens of region scarcely able to carry itself. =
But there are other ways.
To make a start, we need only two things. First, points of contact where =
we might do some good. And second, the people and recourses to serve the =
need. Knowing something of the quality and dedication of the people on =
OSLIST, I feel comfortable in saying that the second need has already =
been met. We are the people, and we can find the resources. But the =
Points of Contact may take a little thinking. We don't need to have a =
lot, and certainly not a full array all across the Gulf States. Just one =
or two would do for a start.
There are 450 people on this list. There is only one person that I can =
think of (and I can't remember his name) who actually lives in New =
Orleans. But in this wonderful electronic world in which we live, =
physical proximity isn't the only thing. Each one of us knows somebody =
who knows somebody who knows somebody. . . A simple note of invitation =
and support passed along "the grape vine," could reach the receptive =
spot. We might share our notes just to give each other ideas and =
inspiration -- no need to sell Open Space. Just talk about what it does =
-- simply, personally and briefly.
And when we reach that receptive spot -- I for one promise to offer =
whatever service or support that lies in my power to give.
Harrison
Harrison Owen
7808 River Falls Dr.
Potomac, MD 20854
USA
301-365-2093
207-763-3261 (summer)
website www.openspaceworld.com
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial>And when we reach that receptive spot -- I for =
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give.</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial>Harrison</FONT></DIV>
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Date: Mon, 5 Sep 2005 14:18:20 -0300
From: Nancy Weatherhead <newreso...@eastlink.ca>
Subject: Mentoring Circles
An offering of holding Mentoring Circles for the Halifax area was made at
the 2005 OSonOS by me. It has been a month of activity and I have been
tardy in posting this email. My commitment is to offer space for the
Halifax area to gather on a bi-monthly basis on the first Monday of the
month, beginning in October 2005 (October 3, 2005) at 7:30 pm. I can
comfortably accommodate up to 10 people in my home, so we can start there
and, if needed, I will look to finding a larger space if the group grows
larger.
It is my intention to hold a space where those working with OST and/or the
Genuine ContactTM program may gather as a growing community in Nova
Scotia.
In order to accommodate all who wish to gather, please email me at
newreso...@eastlink.ca if you would like to attend and I will forward you
my
address and directions.
Please forward to those you feel may be interested.
Blessings,
Nancy Weatherhead
N.E.W. Resolve
International Consulting Inc.
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Date: Mon, 5 Sep 2005 18:52:42 +0100
From: Chris Macrae <wcbn...@easynet.co.uk>
Subject: Re: Opening Space on the Gulf Coast
Excellent idea. I wonder too whether an open space convened in DC could do
some good now. If you think maybe, I am happy to help with sending out
invitations- what's the best people's space DC has for Open?
Sustainability of States like Louisana needed long-term investment but
seem to
have lost out in short-term DC/Fed power plays. I am not sure I have ever
seen
American media take on big politics and big business in the way they have
the
last week in asking about how slow the response was and why category 4
protection grants have been denied by the feds. As one journalist puts it
in a
broadcast today: "This is the biggest displacement of people since the
American Civil War and it must have political consequences as the people
are
being scattered across the US."
It may be a dream, but I think there could be a different way of governing
the
United States as a network of states that openly need each other's
diversity of
cultures, sustained transparently by true investment not speculative
forces,
and by & for the compound interests of peoples, not just the biggest
powers.
Would New Orleans be under water today if the toss of the coin that put
Bush
in power had gone Gore's way. I dunno but some compound policies of
sustainability and transparency these last 5 years would have taken the
world
& the USA to a different space than that we have got. 2 months ago, I
thought
and still feel that the future plight of Londoners is pretty awful for
reasons
we peoples have had no vote on; of course, that of New Orleans is a
greater
conflict but both groups of citizens - and my guess ever more citizen
groups
are at risk until DC's institutions gets recociled with governing for
peoples
not over them.
Our transparency communities at www.valuetrue.com have started a group to
see
if that dream can be chatted up into some kind of movement at
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/valuationusa/
chris macrae, wcbn...@easynet.co.uk
http://goodmap.blogspot.com http://clubofdc.blogspot.com
Quoting Harrison Owen <hho...@comcast.net>:
When 9/11 happened, after the immediate shock had worn off, I found
myself
musing -- "Given what I know/have experienced, what can we do now?" I
confess
that the answer to that question was a little slow in coming, but when it
did, the arrival occurred pretty much in the nature of a blinding flash
of
the obvious. Open Space! And I did my best to spell out the details in
what
became, "The Practice of Peace." This time around, the old mind seems to
have
worked a little bit faster -- or maybe the obvious was just a bit more
obvious -- and the answer is precisely the same. Open Space!
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Date: Mon, 5 Sep 2005 13:42:53 -0700
From: Kate Armstrong <4pang...@sbcglobal.net>
Subject: Contribute directly to NAACP
For those who would prefer to donate directly to the NAACP Disaster
Relief Fund, go to www.store.yahoo.com/naacp-donate1/
Yahoo is charging nothing in this partnership with the NAACP to bring
help as directly as possible in the aftermath of this historic tragedy.
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Date: Mon, 5 Sep 2005 22:23:14 EDT
From: Esther Ewing <ewingcha...@aol.com>
Subject: Stammitsch in NYC
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I went but no one was there. I waited by the hostess for half an hour but
couldn't recognize anyone from our group. I hope I went to the right
place but
didn't see anyone between 7 and 7:30 that I recognized.
Did I have the right time and date? 7 pm at Cosi at 13th and 6th?
Oh well, another time perhaps...
Esther Ewing
The Change Alliance - Building Organizational Capability
330 East 38th St., Suite 53K
New York, New York 10016, USA
Phone: 212-661-6024
Fax: 866-296-6712
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Date: Mon, 5 Sep 2005 23:41:34 -0400
From: "Douglas D. Germann, Sr." <76066....@compuserve.com>
Subject: New Orleans violence: conversation's role?
John and Pat--
Thank you John and Pat for your kind words.
What we do in OST is an example of the kind of conversation, at least in
my
experience, where persons are brought forth: people are listened into
speech, and especially into being really somebody. People who identify
themselves by things they oppose (and the people they oppose seem to be
things, not persons, from what I am seeing), probably do not see
themselves
as persons, either. In other words, the "surface attributes" of which you
speak.
As you suggest, listening is probably the key to person-making. Really
listening to the person. Stepping to that place in between the two of you
where we are real, where truth is opened up and responded to.
When you speak of reflecting the physical expression of the person in
front
of you, you are on to something, Pat. So many times I have had the lesson
that it makes most progress in a conversation if we verbalize what is most
obvious. Kind of a naming of the dead moose: "I'll bet if I had gone
through half of what you did, I would be as angry as you seem to be,
John."
Something like that. But the key is probably love: saying whatever you
care
in a way that expresses that you care.
Engage with care. But engage. Don't hijack a bus, Pat. But go to the
airport in your town and meet one or two of our own refugees, perhaps.
5 of us gathered in our church after services Sunday at a "cafe table" to
talk about how we can respond to Katrina. Engaging is the only thing I can
think to help.
:-Doug. Germann
Seeking people making community change.
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Date: Mon, 5 Sep 2005 23:41:36 -0400
From: "Douglas D. Germann, Sr." <76066....@compuserve.com>
Subject: Opening Space on the Gulf Coast
Harrison--
Thanks for making the promptings audible and visible.
I have just sent an e-mail to a friend of mine in Atlanta, and another in
Florida, asking if they have such contacts. We shall see.
:-Doug. Germann
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Date: Tue, 6 Sep 2005 12:13:20 +0800
From: Alan Stewart <a...@creativestate.biz>
Subject: Re: Stammitsch in NYC
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Hi Esther
Sorry to hear that you were left on your own.=20
To cheer you up <grin> below is a note that I sent to Marei last week. =
She responded that she would pass the message on 'and will make sure to =
be there myself one Sat morning.'=20
Here is it again for your and others in, or passing through, NYC =
interest. =20
Hi Marei
The venue you have chosen is very close to the home of a great friend of =
mine, storyteller extraordinaire Diane Wolkstein. She lives in Patchin =
Place which is just off the nearby library.=20
You and fellow NYC spacers may be interested to know that Diane =
organises storytelling performances at the statue of Hans Christian =
Andersen In Central Park every Sat morning from June through September.=20
You can see details of this on her website www.dianewolkstein.com under =
Events.=20
Mit freundlichen Gruessen and best wishes for your gathering on Monday.=20
Go well
Alan=20
Hong Kong=20
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From: Esther Ewing=20
To: osl...@listserv.boisestate.edu=20
Sent: Tuesday, September 06, 2005 10:23 AM
Subject: Stammitsch in NYC
I went but no one was there. I waited by the hostess for half an hour =
but couldn't recognize anyone from our group. I hope I went to the right =
place but didn't see anyone between 7 and 7:30 that I recognized.=20
Did I have the right time and date? 7 pm at Cosi at 13th and 6th?
Oh well, another time perhaps...
Esther Ewing
The Change Alliance - Building Organizational Capability
330 East 38th St., Suite 53K
New York, New York 10016, USA
Phone: 212-661-6024
Fax: 866-296-6712
Distributor of Panoramic Feedback (www.panoramicfeedback.com)
Kolbe Index (www.kolbe.com)=20
Certified Network Member - Team Management Systems
(www.teammanagementsystems.com)=20
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<DIV><FONT color=3D#000000 size=3D2>Hi Esther</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=3D#000000 size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=3D#000000 size=3D2>Sorry to hear that you were left on =
your own.=20
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<DIV><FONT color=3D#000000 size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=3D#000000 size=3D2>To cheer you up <grin> =
below is a=20
note that I sent to Marei last week. She responded that she would pass =
the=20
message on '<FONT color=3D#0080c0><STRONG>and will make sure to=20
</STRONG></FONT></FONT><FONT color=3D#000000 size=3D2><FONT =
color=3D#0080c0><STRONG>be=20
there myself one Sat morning.' </STRONG></FONT></DIV></FONT>
<DIV><FONT color=3D#000000 size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=3D#000000 size=3D2>Here is it again for your and =
others in, or=20
passing through, NYC interest. </FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Hi Marei</FONT></DIV>
<DIV>
<P><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>The venue you have chosen is very close =
to the home=20
of a great friend of mine, </FONT><FONT face=3DArial =
size=3D2>storyteller=20
extraordinaire Diane Wolkstein. She lives in Patchin Place which is just =
off the=20
nearby library. </FONT></P>
<P><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>You and fellow NYC spacers may be =
interested to know=20
that Diane organises storytelling performances at the statue of Hans =
Christian=20
Andersen In Central Park every Sat morning from June through September.=20
</FONT></P>
<P><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>You can see details of this on her =
website <A=20
href=3D"http://www.dianewolkstein.com";>www.dianewolkstein.com</A> under =
Events.=20
</FONT></P><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>
<P>Mit freundlichen Gruessen and best wishes for your gathering on =
Monday. </P>
<P>Go well</P>
<P>Alan <BR>Hong Kong </P>
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black"><B>From:</B>=20
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<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A=20
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href=3D"mailto:osl...@listserv.boisestate.edu";>OSLIST@LISTSERV.BOISESTATE=
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<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Tuesday, September 06, =
2005 10:23=20
AM</DIV>
<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Stammitsch in =
NYC</DIV>
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<DIV><FONT size=3D4>I went but no one was there. I waited by the =
hostess for=20
half an hour but couldn't recognize anyone from our group. I hope I =
went to=20
the right place but didn't see anyone between 7 and 7:30 that I =
recognized.=20
</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D4></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D4>Did I have the right time and date? 7 pm at Cosi =
at 13th and=20
6th?</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D4></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D4>Oh well, another time perhaps...</FONT></DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT lang=3D0 face=3DArial color=3D#004080 size=3D4 =
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FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF"><B>Esther Ewing<BR>The Change Alliance - Building =
Organizational Capability<BR>330 East 38th St., Suite 53K<BR>New York, =
New=20
York 10016, USA<BR><BR>Phone: 212-661-6024<BR>Fax:=20
866-296-6712<BR><BR>Distributor of Panoramic Feedback=20
(www.panoramicfeedback.com)<BR>Kolbe Index (www.kolbe.com) =
<BR>Certified=20
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Systems<BR>(www.teammanagementsystems.com)=20
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