This looks very interesting.  Wonder if you could be more specific as to
title?  If this is something you feel unseemly to publish here please
email me directly at:  lburle...@nc.rr.com.  Thanks!

Looking forward,
 
Les Burleson

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From: OSLIST [mailto:osl...@listserv.boisestate.edu] On Behalf Of
Patricia Haines
Sent: Tuesday, March 14, 2006 8:11 AM
To: osl...@listserv.boisestate.edu
Subject: Re: Self-evolution

Michael et al: if you haven't already seen it, check out the video or
DVD of "What the (Bleep)Do We
Know?" - a conversation, loosely disguised as a story, with quantum
physicists and neurobiologists
about the nature of 'reality' and our relationship to it as creators -
makes a great gift for anyone
exploring the edges of things!

----- Original Message -----
From: Michael Herman <mich...@michaelherman.com>
To: osl...@listserv.boisestate.edu
Sent:         Mon, 13 Mar 2006 11:33:16 -0600
Subject: Re: Self-evolution

> Harrison, et al...
> 
> There is a book out since 1999 called "The User Illusion: Cutting
> Consciousness Down to Size" (by Tor Norreetranders) that suggests that
> the next 'grand unification' is not going to simply marry gravity to
> the other three forces described by modern physics, but will go even
> further, marrying physics to everyday life, consciousness, and
> meaning.
> 
> I'm only a fourth of the way into this, but see much in it that seems
> relevant to the self-organizing, open space story.  It seems that a
> big piece of evolution is forgetting details.  When we measure
> temperature, for instance, we ignore the speed, position and all the
> variance in individual molecules.  When we total up our grocery
> purchase, we note only the amount on the bill and leave with "a
> bagful" rather than individual items.  When one of Darwin's successes
> is 'naturally selected', nature also forgets or ignores or lets go of
> a pile of other options.  And when we write an invitation, we often
> ignore a lot of the details, forget them, so that we can move forward
> with issues and opps for...  whatever.  Forgetting, letting go,
> looking ahead, focusing in... it all helps open new space.
> 
> The stuff in this book, refs to Santa Fe Institute conferences and
> such, might provide good fodder for this self-org story you're
> spinning, Harrison.  It might provide other science-minded folks here
> with interesting reading.
> 
> I suppose the biology of self-org might be closer to human systems,
> but I find the leap from physics to openspace more interesting.  Small
> wonder, or a good sign, that I'm marrying a former particle physicist!
> 
> Michael
> 
> 
> 
> 
> On 3/12/06, Ralph Copleman <rcople...@comcast.net> wrote:
> > On 3/12/06 2:00 AM, "OSLIST automatic digest system"
> > <lists...@listserv.boisestate.edu> wrote:
> >
> > > Chaos, we are learning, is the rich seed =
> > > bed of emergent order.  Strange new world.
> >
> > Yeah, all 13.7 billion years of recent events.
> >
> > Harrison, you're re-examining the theory of evolution.  The process
we call
> > "self-organization" may be, after all, what Darwin labeled "Natural
> > Selection".  (He never used the phrase "survival of the fittest", by
the
> > way.)
> >
> > If your new book emerges as a re-presentation of evolution for the
world of
> > human systems, it will be a very, very useful contribution.  If we
can get
> > even a few such systems thinking/operating in harmony with the
universe's
> > ancient (and highly effective) underlying dynamics, we'll have taken
a big
> > step toward saving life on Earth.
> >
> > Lead on, my friend.
> >
> > Ralph
> >
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