An excellent question… and… perhaps the ‘right’ forum for it.
From: OSLIST [mailto:osl...@listserv.boisestate.edu] On Behalf Of
Phelim McDermott
Sent: Monday, September 04, 2006 1:48 PM
To: osl...@listserv.boisestate.edu
Subject: Re: an interesting meeting in Berlin]
Last time i looked this was the top rated question today it's
number five!
How do we reduce the elitism of knowledge such as your event? Why
do the masses ask you and not the other way around? Can you not ask
questions of us and allow us to answer. Certainly we have better
answers being more minds than you?
Phelimx
On 4 Sep 2006, at 17:27, Nancy Weatherhead wrote:
I understand the bias here against ‘experts’… but most of the
‘experts’ I have met are fully aware of their own lack of ability
to answer all questions and would only choose to call themselves an
expert in a certain area/field of living… and.. I do not see this
word being used here… I also see that this is yet another forum
that is looking for input from a wide variety and cross section of
people from all countries and areas of ‘expertise’. Perhaps if you
can look beyond a form that is not of your choosing you could find
some value here?
Nancy
See with an open heart, hear with an open mind.
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Harrison Owen
Sent: Monday, September 04, 2006 9:44 AM
To: osl...@listserv.boisestate.edu
Subject: Re: an interesting meeting in Berlin]
Thanks to my increasing myopia (doubtless due to sins past and
present) I did in fact miss the URL. small print! is the root of
all evil!! But I love you Funda!!!
And Michael -- you captured my feeling exactly when it come to
events like this. Doubtless it will be a marvelous show, but as an
advance of real knowledge, and more importantly the application of
that knowledge, I rather think it will come up short. The "Expert
Syndrome" one more time. Old joke about the definition of "expert"
-- "a has been under pressure." Some truth there, I think.
Harrison
Harrison Owen
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----- Original Message -----
From: Michael M Pannwitz
To: osl...@listserv.boisestate.edu
Sent: Monday, September 04, 2006 4:12 AM
Subject: [Fwd: Re: an interesting meeting in Berlin]
Dear list,
yesterday, I did send the note below to ho who had not discovered the
link and entered my esteemed opinion on this project.
Its in the local Berlin paper again today with a long report on how
they
are creating two setups, one indoor for rain and one outdoor for sunny
weather...its quite a huge table coated with a very fancy and
expensive
material that can also be written on...they have already approached
the
Guinness Book of World Records for the largest round table
ever...and I
wouldnt be surprised if they cut it up in pieces and auction it off as
they did with other local objects like the Berlin Wall....and, of
course, there is going to be a video where you can see all of them
simultaneously answering questions...
To me this is a good example for the paradigm "Experts solve Problems"
(Taylor, Scientific management)which dominated the art between 1900
and
1950, followed by a phase of "Everybody solves Problems" (Group
Problem
Solving, Lewin etc.) which in recent years, under the influence of
Systems Thinking, has been changing since 1965 into "Experts improve
whole systems" and, more recently, with the development of approaches
such as Open Space, Future Search, etc., into "Everybody improves
whole
systems".
I dont think that an approach long shown to be useless for the
challenges we are facing now improves through technology that makes it
available instantaneously, worldwide...
Still, its a fascinating show that definitely is marketed in an
effective mode...
So, for me its back to practicing Open Space Technology!
Greetings from Berlin
mmp
-------- Original Message --------
Subject: Re: an interesting meeting in Berlin
Date: Mon, 04 Sep 2006 01:18:25 +0200
From: Michael M Pannwitz <mmpa...@boscop.de>
To: Harrison Owen <hho...@verizon.net>
References: <00ec01c6cf96$7c0ba5e0$0201a8c0@fundao0ngpntt7>
<002601c6cfaa$86112ba0$b2f13018@holaptop>
click on the link she supplied, its a little hard to see for old
men like me
it was in the local Berlin paper today and I consider it to be a
fabulous piece of bullshit,
especially since they definitely forgot to include THIS
great mind
Tables have been out for some time...
Greetings from Berlin
mmp
Harrison Owen wrote:
> OK Funda. You are indeed the "mystery woman." No more mysterious
than
> now. . . What interesting meeting in Berlin????
>
> ho
> Harrison Owen
> 7808 River Falls Dr.
> Potomac, MD 20854
> USA
> 301-365-2093
> 207-763-3261 (summer)
> website www.openspaceworld.com <http://www.openspaceworld.com>
> Personal Website www.ho-image.com <http://www.ho-image.com>
>
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