Dearest Anne Brilliant to 'hear' you... I'm sure I've heard that chat "We are the ones..." Would love to hear it again - wonder how?
Xx Romy > From: anne stadler <annes...@comcast.net> > Reply-To: OSLIST <osl...@listserv.boisestate.edu> > Date: Wed, 18 Oct 2006 10:19:45 -0700 > To: osl...@listserv.boisestate.edu > Subject: Re: OSLIST Digest - 16 Oct 2006 to 17 Oct 2006 (#2006-274) > > > Re: The END of leadership: > > Dear Yaav. Thank you for your beautiful, full description of a situation we > find in the mainstream of all the cultures in which we are currently > working. AND I echo dear Romy's words to you with enthusiasm. > > There's a chant we often sang at Spirited Work (an Open Space learning > community of practice which ran for seven years until it was "over" in that > form). "We are the ones we've been waiting for." AND I would amend that to > be "I am the One I've been waiting for!". > > I would call that circle a leader-FULL circle, rather than a leader-less > circle. To me, that is what Open Space signals and fosters: leaderfullness. > > Much love and blessing to you and Tova and Avner and all our brilliant and > amazing colleagues doing such necessary heartful, thoughtful work!! > > Anne > >> From: OSLIST automatic digest system <lists...@listserv.boisestate.edu> >> Reply-To: OSLIST <osl...@listserv.boisestate.edu> >> Date: Wed, 18 Oct 2006 00:00:04 -0600 >> To: osl...@listserv.boisestate.edu >> Subject: OSLIST Digest - 16 Oct 2006 to 17 Oct 2006 (#2006-274) >> >> There are 10 messages totalling 805 lines in this issue. >> >> Topics of the day: >> >> 1. The end of leadership (4) >> 2. LIFT new Parliament (2) >> 3. opening space with despise >> 4. marketplace >> 5. More OS with 3rd graders (2) >> >> * >> * >> ========================================================== >> osl...@listserv.boisestate.edu >> ------------------------------ >> To subscribe, unsubscribe, change your options, >> view the archives of osl...@listserv.boisestate.edu: >> http://listserv.boisestate.edu/archives/oslist.html >> >> To learn about OpenSpaceEmailLists and OSLIST FAQs: >> http://www.openspaceworld.org/oslist >> >> ---------------------------------------------------------------------- >> >> Date: Tue, 17 Oct 2006 13:18:39 +0100 >> From: Romy Shovelton <ro...@compuserve.com> >> Subject: Re: The end of leadership >> >> Yoav >> >> Thank you for your inspiration... >> >> And I guess it takes all of us to reminding ourselves (and others) that all >> this is possible. Indeed I deeply believe that is is only when 'the people' >> (= us too of course) genuinely feel that is their choice, their will, their >> action that creates the world we (individually and collectively want).... >> that we will achieve our dream(s). >> >> Thank you for your practical and profound example from a dear land that so >> many people love. >> >> Romy >> >>> From: Yoav Peck <yoavp...@netvision.net.il> >>> Reply-To: OSLIST <osl...@listserv.boisestate.edu> >>> Date: Sun, 15 Oct 2006 18:55:07 +0200 >>> To: osl...@listserv.boisestate.edu >>> Subject: The end of leadership >>> >>> >>> Today the Israeli Knesset (parliament) convened for its winter session. >>> Yesterday, the police recommended indicting our president for a collection >>> of offenses, the most serious of which is the rape of two women in his >>> employ. >>> Many legislators announced their intention to protest the president's >>> appearance at today's session and he wisely bowed to the pressure and did >>> not attend. >>> Why am I sharing this with you on the OS list? >>> As I facilitated my first OS last month, I noticed a recurrent theme among >>> the different groups - the longing for "someone who will be crazy about our >>> issue" to appear and assume leadership in the efforts to fulfill the vision >>> that crystallized in response to the day's question: the formation of a >>> national council for parents and parenting professionals. >>> What did not come home to the group of 60 people, mostly professionals who >>> run parent-training programs, is that the "crazy-about-the-issue someone" is >>> none other than they themselves. I low-profiled as much as I could, >>> empowered, returned questioners to themselves. I left the room some. But the >>> group seemed to be waiting and praying for the someone who will save us, >>> during most of the course of the day. It appears that only after meeting >>> with the steering committee and then holding round two of the OS will people >>> be likely to get that the person sitting in their seat is "the one." >>> >>> At any rate, the profundity of OS' message came home to me during that first >>> day. The fantasy that one driven, inspired leader will rescue us all from >>> our helplessness is a chorus that can frequently be heard when people >>> discuss the overall situation here in Israel. >>> In my view, the 1995 assassination of Yitzhak Rabin marked the end of this >>> fantasy here. Indeed, Rabin had qualities and qualifications that enabled so >>> many of us to follow him. But, as in OS, the leader's "strength" was our >>> downfall, because in the shine of his leadership our own light dimmed. The >>> lion's share of peacemaking work remained even as he lived, but we deluded >>> ourselves that he would carry us through to the promised land. Since his >>> death, no comparable leader has emerged, and many here bemoan this reality. >>> However, now that I have caught the OS "bug" I am wondering if Rabin's >>> death, tragic as it was, may not be our cue to understanding that it is we >>> who must create whatever is to be created here. It has been nearly eleven >>> years, but with people's growing distaste for our "leaders," it appears that >>> we Israelis may finally be getting the hint. >>> Even Moses stayed behind, to die on Mt. Nevo while the people crossed over >>> into Israel. It remains now for us to shoulder the burden of making the new >>> tomorrow. >>> I am grateful to discover OS as a way of holding this leaderless future. I >>> relish the mails and look forward to the ongoing learning that is here. >>> Yoav Peck, >>> Jerusalem >>> >>> * >>> * >>> ========================================================== >>> osl...@listserv.boisestate.edu >>> ------------------------------ >>> To subscribe, unsubscribe, change your options, >>> view the archives of osl...@listserv.boisestate.edu: >>> http://listserv.boisestate.edu/archives/oslist.html >>> >>> To learn about OpenSpaceEmailLists and OSLIST FAQs: >>> http://www.openspaceworld.org/oslist >> >> * >> * >> ========================================================== >> osl...@listserv.boisestate.edu >> ----------------------------- >> To subscribe, unsubscribe, change your options, >> view the archives of osl...@listserv.boisestate.edu: >> http://listserv.boisestate.edu/archives/oslist.html >> >> To learn about OpenSpaceEmailLists and OSLIST FAQs: >> http://www.openspaceworld.org/oslist >> >> ------------------------------ >> >> Date: Tue, 17 Oct 2006 07:01:59 -0600 >> From: Joanna Fletcher <j...@lionlifecoaching.com> >> Subject: Re: The end of leadership >> >> Yoav, I am so touched and inspired by your words below, I am crying into my >> cornflakes. May your understanding spread into another step towards peace. >> >> Joanna Fletcher >> Lion Life Coaching >> j...@lionlifecoaching.com >> 604-340-1855 >> www.lionlifecoaching.com >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: OSLIST [mailto:osl...@listserv.boisestate.edu] On Behalf Of Yoav Peck >> Sent: October 15, 2006 10:55 AM >> To: osl...@listserv.boisestate.edu >> Subject: The end of leadership >> >> Today the Israeli Knesset (parliament) convened for its winter session. >> Yesterday, the police recommended indicting our president for a collection >> of offenses, the most serious of which is the rape of two women in his >> employ. >> Many legislators announced their intention to protest the president's >> appearance at today's session and he wisely bowed to the pressure and did >> not attend. >> Why am I sharing this with you on the OS list? >> As I facilitated my first OS last month, I noticed a recurrent theme among >> the different groups - the longing for "someone who will be crazy about our >> issue" to appear and assume leadership in the efforts to fulfill the vision >> that crystallized in response to the day's question: the formation of a >> national council for parents and parenting professionals. >> What did not come home to the group of 60 people, mostly professionals who >> run parent-training programs, is that the "crazy-about-the-issue someone" is >> none other than they themselves. I low-profiled as much as I could, >> empowered, returned questioners to themselves. I left the room some. But the >> group seemed to be waiting and praying for the someone who will save us, >> during most of the course of the day. It appears that only after meeting >> with the steering committee and then holding round two of the OS will people >> be likely to get that the person sitting in their seat is "the one." >> >> At any rate, the profundity of OS' message came home to me during that first >> day. The fantasy that one driven, inspired leader will rescue us all from >> our helplessness is a chorus that can frequently be heard when people >> discuss the overall situation here in Israel. >> In my view, the 1995 assassination of Yitzhak Rabin marked the end of this >> fantasy here. Indeed, Rabin had qualities and qualifications that enabled so >> many of us to follow him. But, as in OS, the leader's "strength" was our >> downfall, because in the shine of his leadership our own light dimmed. The >> lion's share of peacemaking work remained even as he lived, but we deluded >> ourselves that he would carry us through to the promised land. Since his >> death, no comparable leader has emerged, and many here bemoan this reality. >> However, now that I have caught the OS "bug" I am wondering if Rabin's >> death, tragic as it was, may not be our cue to understanding that it is we >> who must create whatever is to be created here. It has been nearly eleven >> years, but with people's growing distaste for our "leaders," it appears that >> we Israelis may finally be getting the hint. >> Even Moses stayed behind, to die on Mt. Nevo while the people crossed over >> into Israel. It remains now for us to shoulder the burden of making the new >> tomorrow. >> I am grateful to discover OS as a way of holding this leaderless future. I >> relish the mails and look forward to the ongoing learning that is here. >> Yoav Peck, >> Jerusalem >> >> * >> * >> ========================================================== >> osl...@listserv.boisestate.edu >> ----------------------------- >> To subscribe, unsubscribe, change your options, >> view the archives of osl...@listserv.boisestate.edu: >> http://listserv.boisestate.edu/archives/oslist.html >> >> To learn about OpenSpaceEmailLists and OSLIST FAQs: >> http://www.openspaceworld.org/oslist >> >> * >> * >> ========================================================== >> osl...@listserv.boisestate.edu >> ----------------------------- >> To subscribe, unsubscribe, change your options, >> view the archives of osl...@listserv.boisestate.edu: >> http://listserv.boisestate.edu/archives/oslist.html >> >> To learn about OpenSpaceEmailLists and OSLIST FAQs: >> http://www.openspaceworld.org/oslist >> >> ------------------------------ >> >> Date: Tue, 17 Oct 2006 15:21:01 +0100 >> From: Phelim McDermott <phe...@mac.com> >> Subject: LIFT new Parliament >> >> Hi Friends, >> >> phelim here.. here's a link to the report for the first open space >> event "London International Theatre Festival" had as the start for >> their artist's new parliament building (which is a portable structure >> which will house forum events in conjunction with arts events). It >> was a great day and great to have support from Romy at the event. Two >> more open space events to follow. >> >> phelimx >> >> * >> * >> ========================================================== >> osl...@listserv.boisestate.edu >> ----------------------------- >> To subscribe, unsubscribe, change your options, >> view the archives of osl...@listserv.boisestate.edu: >> http://listserv.boisestate.edu/archives/oslist.html >> >> To learn about OpenSpaceEmailLists and OSLIST FAQs: >> http://www.openspaceworld.org/oslist >> >> ------------------------------ >> >> Date: Mon, 16 Oct 2006 16:39:10 +0200 >> From: Yoav Peck <yoavp...@netvision.net.il> >> Subject: Re: The end of leadership >> >> Romy, >> Appreciate your response. Thanks much. Good to know that folks out there >> care about Israel. Yoav >> >> Yoav >> >> Thank you for your inspiration... >> >> And I guess it takes all of us to reminding ourselves (and others) that all >> this is possible. Indeed I deeply believe that is is only when 'the people' >> (= us too of course) genuinely feel that is their choice, their will, their >> action that creates the world we (individually and collectively want).... >> that we will achieve our dream(s). >> >> Thank you for your practical and profound example from a dear land that so >> many people love. >> >> Romy >> >>> From: Yoav Peck <yoavp...@netvision.net.il> >>> Reply-To: OSLIST <osl...@listserv.boisestate.edu> >>> Date: Sun, 15 Oct 2006 18:55:07 +0200 >>> To: osl...@listserv.boisestate.edu >>> Subject: The end of leadership >>> >>> >>> Today the Israeli Knesset (parliament) convened for its winter session. >>> Yesterday, the police recommended indicting our president for a collection >>> of offenses, the most serious of which is the rape of two women in his >>> employ. >>> Many legislators announced their intention to protest the president's >>> appearance at today's session and he wisely bowed to the pressure and did >>> not attend. >>> Why am I sharing this with you on the OS list? >>> As I facilitated my first OS last month, I noticed a recurrent theme among >>> the different groups - the longing for "someone who will be crazy about >> our >>> issue" to appear and assume leadership in the efforts to fulfill the >> vision >>> that crystallized in response to the day's question: the formation of a >>> national council for parents and parenting professionals. >>> What did not come home to the group of 60 people, mostly professionals who >>> run parent-training programs, is that the "crazy-about-the-issue someone" >> is >>> none other than they themselves. I low-profiled as much as I could, >>> empowered, returned questioners to themselves. I left the room some. But >> the >>> group seemed to be waiting and praying for the someone who will save us, >>> during most of the course of the day. It appears that only after meeting >>> with the steering committee and then holding round two of the OS will >> people >>> be likely to get that the person sitting in their seat is "the one." >>> >>> At any rate, the profundity of OS' message came home to me during that >> first >>> day. The fantasy that one driven, inspired leader will rescue us all from >>> our helplessness is a chorus that can frequently be heard when people >>> discuss the overall situation here in Israel. >>> In my view, the 1995 assassination of Yitzhak Rabin marked the end of this >>> fantasy here. Indeed, Rabin had qualities and qualifications that enabled >> so >>> many of us to follow him. But, as in OS, the leader's "strength" was our >>> downfall, because in the shine of his leadership our own light dimmed. The >>> lion's share of peacemaking work remained even as he lived, but we deluded >>> ourselves that he would carry us through to the promised land. Since his >>> death, no comparable leader has emerged, and many here bemoan this >> reality. >>> However, now that I have caught the OS "bug" I am wondering if Rabin's >>> death, tragic as it was, may not be our cue to understanding that it is we >>> who must create whatever is to be created here. It has been nearly eleven >>> years, but with people's growing distaste for our "leaders," it appears >> that >>> we Israelis may finally be getting the hint. >>> Even Moses stayed behind, to die on Mt. Nevo while the people crossed over >>> into Israel. It remains now for us to shoulder the burden of making the >> new >>> tomorrow. >>> I am grateful to discover OS as a way of holding this leaderless future. I >>> relish the mails and look forward to the ongoing learning that is here. >>> Yoav Peck, >>> Jerusalem >>> >>> * >>> * >>> ========================================================== >>> osl...@listserv.boisestate.edu >>> ------------------------------ >>> To subscribe, unsubscribe, change your options, >>> view the archives of osl...@listserv.boisestate.edu: >>> http://listserv.boisestate.edu/archives/oslist.html >>> >>> To learn about OpenSpaceEmailLists and OSLIST FAQs: >>> http://www.openspaceworld.org/oslist >> >> * >> * >> ========================================================== >> osl...@listserv.boisestate.edu >> ----------------------------- >> To subscribe, unsubscribe, change your options, >> view the archives of osl...@listserv.boisestate.edu: >> http://listserv.boisestate.edu/archives/oslist.html >> >> To learn about OpenSpaceEmailLists and OSLIST FAQs: >> http://www.openspaceworld.org/oslist >> >> * >> * >> ========================================================== >> osl...@listserv.boisestate.edu >> ----------------------------- >> To subscribe, unsubscribe, change your options, >> view the archives of osl...@listserv.boisestate.edu: >> http://listserv.boisestate.edu/archives/oslist.html >> >> To learn about OpenSpaceEmailLists and OSLIST FAQs: >> http://www.openspaceworld.org/oslist >> >> ------------------------------ >> >> Date: Mon, 16 Oct 2006 16:42:20 +0200 >> From: Yoav Peck <yoavp...@netvision.net.il> >> Subject: Re: The end of leadership >> >> Joanna, >> Thanks much for your note. I looked at your site and it looks like you do >> things that harmonize with my stuff. I lead organizational interventions for >> the advancement of human dignity, particularly in schools and education >> systems. Attaching a piece I put together for one of the foundations that >> support our work. You're located in British Columbia? Whereabouts? Best, >> Yoav >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: OSLIST [mailto:osl...@listserv.boisestate.edu] On Behalf Of Joanna >> Fletcher >> Sent: Tuesday, October 17, 2006 3:02 PM >> To: osl...@listserv.boisestate.edu >> Subject: Re: The end of leadership >> >> Yoav, I am so touched and inspired by your words below, I am crying into my >> cornflakes. May your understanding spread into another step towards peace. >> >> Joanna Fletcher >> Lion Life Coaching >> j...@lionlifecoaching.com >> 604-340-1855 >> www.lionlifecoaching.com >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: OSLIST [mailto:osl...@listserv.boisestate.edu] On Behalf Of Yoav Peck >> Sent: October 15, 2006 10:55 AM >> To: osl...@listserv.boisestate.edu >> Subject: The end of leadership >> >> Today the Israeli Knesset (parliament) convened for its winter session. >> Yesterday, the police recommended indicting our president for a collection >> of offenses, the most serious of which is the rape of two women in his >> employ. >> Many legislators announced their intention to protest the president's >> appearance at today's session and he wisely bowed to the pressure and did >> not attend. >> Why am I sharing this with you on the OS list? >> As I facilitated my first OS last month, I noticed a recurrent theme among >> the different groups - the longing for "someone who will be crazy about our >> issue" to appear and assume leadership in the efforts to fulfill the vision >> that crystallized in response to the day's question: the formation of a >> national council for parents and parenting professionals. >> What did not come home to the group of 60 people, mostly professionals who >> run parent-training programs, is that the "crazy-about-the-issue someone" is >> none other than they themselves. I low-profiled as much as I could, >> empowered, returned questioners to themselves. I left the room some. But the >> group seemed to be waiting and praying for the someone who will save us, >> during most of the course of the day. It appears that only after meeting >> with the steering committee and then holding round two of the OS will people >> be likely to get that the person sitting in their seat is "the one." >> >> At any rate, the profundity of OS' message came home to me during that first >> day. The fantasy that one driven, inspired leader will rescue us all from >> our helplessness is a chorus that can frequently be heard when people >> discuss the overall situation here in Israel. >> In my view, the 1995 assassination of Yitzhak Rabin marked the end of this >> fantasy here. Indeed, Rabin had qualities and qualifications that enabled so >> many of us to follow him. But, as in OS, the leader's "strength" was our >> downfall, because in the shine of his leadership our own light dimmed. The >> lion's share of peacemaking work remained even as he lived, but we deluded >> ourselves that he would carry us through to the promised land. Since his >> death, no comparable leader has emerged, and many here bemoan this reality. >> However, now that I have caught the OS "bug" I am wondering if Rabin's >> death, tragic as it was, may not be our cue to understanding that it is we >> who must create whatever is to be created here. It has been nearly eleven >> years, but with people's growing distaste for our "leaders," it appears that >> we Israelis may finally be getting the hint. >> Even Moses stayed behind, to die on Mt. Nevo while the people crossed over >> into Israel. It remains now for us to shoulder the burden of making the new >> tomorrow. >> I am grateful to discover OS as a way of holding this leaderless future. I >> relish the mails and look forward to the ongoing learning that is here. >> Yoav Peck, >> Jerusalem >> >> * >> * >> ========================================================== >> osl...@listserv.boisestate.edu >> ----------------------------- >> To subscribe, unsubscribe, change your options, >> view the archives of osl...@listserv.boisestate.edu: >> http://listserv.boisestate.edu/archives/oslist.html >> >> To learn about OpenSpaceEmailLists and OSLIST FAQs: >> http://www.openspaceworld.org/oslist >> >> * >> * >> ========================================================== >> osl...@listserv.boisestate.edu >> ----------------------------- >> To subscribe, unsubscribe, change your options, >> view the archives of osl...@listserv.boisestate.edu: >> http://listserv.boisestate.edu/archives/oslist.html >> >> To learn about OpenSpaceEmailLists and OSLIST FAQs: >> http://www.openspaceworld.org/oslist >> >> * >> * >> ========================================================== >> osl...@listserv.boisestate.edu >> ----------------------------- >> To subscribe, unsubscribe, change your options, >> view the archives of osl...@listserv.boisestate.edu: >> http://listserv.boisestate.edu/archives/oslist.html >> >> To learn about OpenSpaceEmailLists and OSLIST FAQs: >> http://www.openspaceworld.org/oslist >> >> ------------------------------ >> >> Date: Tue, 17 Oct 2006 15:53:54 +0100 >> From: Phelim McDermott <phe...@mac.com> >> Subject: Re: LIFT new Parliament >> >> http://www.liftfest.org.uk/festivalsandevents/current_events/ >> hopeful_and_fearful/ >> >> and now its really here >> On 17 Oct 2006, at 15:21, Phelim McDermott wrote: >> >>> Hi Friends, >>> >>> phelim here.. here's a link to the report for the first open space >>> event "London International Theatre Festival" had as the start for >>> their artist's new parliament building (which is a portable >>> structure which will house forum events in conjunction with arts >>> events). It was a great day and great to have support from Romy at >>> the event. Two more open space events to follow. >>> >>> phelimx >>> >>> * >>> * >>> ========================================================== >>> osl...@listserv.boisestate.edu >>> ------------------------------ >>> To subscribe, unsubscribe, change your options, >>> view the archives of osl...@listserv.boisestate.edu: >>> http://listserv.boisestate.edu/archives/oslist.html >>> >>> To learn about OpenSpaceEmailLists and OSLIST FAQs: >>> http://www.openspaceworld.org/oslist >> >> * >> * >> ========================================================== >> osl...@listserv.boisestate.edu >> ----------------------------- >> To subscribe, unsubscribe, change your options, >> view the archives of osl...@listserv.boisestate.edu: >> http://listserv.boisestate.edu/archives/oslist.html >> >> To learn about OpenSpaceEmailLists and OSLIST FAQs: >> http://www.openspaceworld.org/oslist >> >> ------------------------------ >> >> Date: Tue, 17 Oct 2006 09:26:27 +0200 >> From: Jo Toepfer <jotoep...@boscop.de> >> Subject: Re: opening space with despise >> >> Dear Filiz, >> >> one part of being present and invisible for me is to think always about >> the beauty, brightness and potential of the group that came together in >> this particular gathering. And that any person in the room is a gift. >> >> Doing so I normally forget about my own judgements and assumptions, that >> are telling me what kind of group I deal with. >> >> greetings >> Jo >> *********************** >> filiz schrieb: >>> I know that is a weird subject line. This is the question I have today: >>> Have you ever hosted an open space with a group/organization that you >>> despise? If despise is too strong of a word, how about disapprove or >>> dislike? >>> Is it ethical? >>> Is it possible for a facilitator to carry certain position and emotions >>> on a certain issue and still open space on that issue? >>> >>> Can you share your experiences? >>> >>> Thank you! >>> >>> >>> * >>> * >>> ========================================================== >>> osl...@listserv.boisestate.edu >>> ------------------------------ >>> To subscribe, unsubscribe, change your options, >>> view the archives of osl...@listserv.boisestate.edu: >>> http://listserv.boisestate.edu/archives/oslist.html >>> >>> To learn about OpenSpaceEmailLists and OSLIST FAQs: >>> http://www.openspaceworld.org/oslist >>> >> >> -- >> International Open Space Technology Training November 2-9, 2006 in >> Blossin/Germany - check it out: >> www.boscop.de >> >> Jo Toepfer, boscop eg >> Dolziger Str. 40, 10247 Berlin >> ++49-30-42018000 >> www.boscop.de www.joconsult.de >> >> * >> * >> ========================================================== >> osl...@listserv.boisestate.edu >> ----------------------------- >> To subscribe, unsubscribe, change your options, >> view the archives of osl...@listserv.boisestate.edu: >> http://listserv.boisestate.edu/archives/oslist.html >> >> To learn about OpenSpaceEmailLists and OSLIST FAQs: >> http://www.openspaceworld.org/oslist >> >> ------------------------------ >> >> Date: Tue, 17 Oct 2006 19:11:05 -0600 >> From: Sheila Beauchemin <s.beauche...@shaw.ca> >> Subject: Re: marketplace >> >> Thanks all for all the responses to my follow-up questions around how to=20= >> >> stay present while not physically being present and other threads... >> >> The direction of this conversation reminded me of some words of wisdom I=20= >> >> received before embarking on the adventure of parenthood. We have to tak= >> e=20 >> care of three important relationships in our lives - person, partner,=20 >> parent in that order. Neglect of any one has consequences for the other.= >> =20=20 >> I think there is a correlation that can be made to what you are saying=20= >> >> about facilitation in open space.=20=20 >> >> Once again - thanks for the encouragement and the perspectives. >> >> Sheila >> Victoria BC >> >> * >> * >> =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3>> D >> =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3>> D >> =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D >> osl...@listserv.boisestate.edu >> ----------------------------- >> To subscribe, unsubscribe, change your options, >> view the archives of osl...@listserv.boisestate.edu: >> http://listserv.boisestate.edu/archives/oslist.html >> >> To learn about OpenSpaceEmailLists and OSLIST FAQs: >> http://www.openspaceworld.org/oslist >> >> ------------------------------ >> >> Date: Tue, 17 Oct 2006 21:35:12 -0700 >> From: ashley cooper <mail.easilyama...@gmail.com> >> Subject: More OS with 3rd graders >> >> ------=_Part_47029_24272540.1161146112775 >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed >> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit >> Content-Disposition: inline >> >> Hello all, >> >> I had a fun occurance this week. Parents were writing to teachers, the head >> of my division and me (the counselor) with concerns about 'bullying issues' >> -- Name calling, unfairness, poor sportsmanship on sports teams, etc. The >> parents believe the problem is getting out of hand and want us to do >> something to help. I piped in quickly... that's great that the kids are >> going to their parents for help... and let's help them self-organize around >> the issues and find ways to help themselves. Rather than just working with >> the students having the problems, let's make it an opportunity for the whole >> grade. The teachers went for the idea and next Tuesday we will be opening >> space. I had lunch with a representative group of 7 students today to >> explore a theme and what they would like to see come out of the event. The >> theme they came up with is looking something like: How can we be respectful >> towards other people in the 3rd grade team, teachers, people in general, >> school property, and natural resources. We're meeting again on Monday to >> finalize our plans. They thought it might be good to start things off with >> Aretha Franklin's song R-E-S-P-E-C-T. >> >> Sounds fun to me! >> >> Ashley >> >> * >> * >> ========================================================== >> osl...@listserv.boisestate.edu >> ----------------------------- >> To subscribe, unsubscribe, change your options, >> view the archives of osl...@listserv.boisestate.edu: >> http://listserv.boisestate.edu/archives/oslist.html >> >> To learn about OpenSpaceEmailLists and OSLIST FAQs: >> http://www.openspaceworld.org/oslist >> >> ------=_Part_47029_24272540.1161146112775 >> Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 >> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit >> Content-Disposition: inline >> >> Hello all,<br> >> <br> >> I had a fun occurance this week. Parents were writing to teachers, the >> head of my division and me (the counselor) with concerns about >> 'bullying issues' -- Name calling, unfairness, poor sportsmanship on >> sports teams, etc. The parents believe the problem is getting out of >> hand and want us to do something to help. I piped in quickly... that's >> great that the kids are going to their parents for help... and let's >> help them self-organize around the issues and find ways to help >> themselves. Rather than just working with the students having the >> problems, let's make it an opportunity for the whole grade. The >> teachers went for the idea and next Tuesday we will be opening space. I >> had lunch with a representative group of 7 students today to explore a >> theme and what they would like to see come out of the event. The theme >> they came up with is looking something like: How can we be >> respectful towards other people in the 3rd grade team, teachers, people >> in general, school property, and natural resources. We're meeting again >> on Monday to finalize our plans. They thought it might be good to start >> things off with Aretha Franklin's song R-E-S-P-E-C-T.<br> >> <br> >> Sounds fun to me!<br> >> <br> >> Ashley<br> >> * >> * >> ========================================================== >> osl...@listserv.boisestate.edu >> ----------------------------- >> To subscribe, unsubscribe, change your options, >> view the archives of osl...@listserv.boisestate.edu: >> http://listserv.boisestate.edu/archives/oslist.html >> >> To learn about OpenSpaceEmailLists and OSLIST FAQs: >> http://www.openspaceworld.org/oslist >> >> ------=_Part_47029_24272540.1161146112775-- >> >> ------------------------------ >> >> Date: Wed, 18 Oct 2006 00:59:35 EDT >> From: Joelle Lyons Everett <jleshel...@aol.com> >> Subject: Re: More OS with 3rd graders >> >> --part1_cb5.ffd189.32670eb7_boundary >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" >> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit >> >> Ashley-- >> >> Fun, indeed! This is really great, that students at your school are >> learning to self-organize and help themselves. >> >> Years ago, I opened space for the teachers and staff of an elementary school. >> The students were not involved in this one, though the first graders set up >> the room (a small gymnasium) at the end of their recess. In the course of >> preparing for the OS, I learned that this school was using a talking stick to >> resolve conflicts between students. When there was a problem, someone would >> run to get the talking stick, and both parties would take turns saying >> whatever >> needed to be said, until they could work out a solution. >> >> Sounds like your school is growing people who might learn to solve disputes >> without violence. >> >> Joelle >> >> * >> * >> ========================================================== >> osl...@listserv.boisestate.edu >> ----------------------------- >> To subscribe, unsubscribe, change your options, >> view the archives of osl...@listserv.boisestate.edu: >> http://listserv.boisestate.edu/archives/oslist.html >> >> To learn about OpenSpaceEmailLists and OSLIST FAQs: >> http://www.openspaceworld.org/oslist >> >> --part1_cb5.ffd189.32670eb7_boundary >> Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" >> Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable >> >> <HTML><FONT FACE=3Darial,helvetica><HTML><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" FACE=3D"Gen= >> eva" FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" SIZE=3D"2">Ashley--<BR> >> <BR> >> Fun, indeed! This is really great, that students at your school are l= >> earning to self-organize and help themselves.<BR> >> <BR> >> Years ago, I opened space for the teachers and staff of an elementary school= >> . The students were not involved in this one, though the first grader= >> s set up the room (a small gymnasium) at the end of their recess. >> In=20= >> the course of preparing for the OS, I learned that this school was using a t= >> alking stick to resolve conflicts between students. When there was >> a=20= >> problem, someone would run to get the talking stick, and both parties >> would=20= >> take turns saying whatever needed to be said, until they could work out a so= >> lution.<BR> >> <BR> >> Sounds like your school is growing people who might learn to solve >> disputes=20= >> without violence.<BR> >> <BR> >> Joelle</FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" FACE=3D"Geneva" FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" SI= >> ZE=3D"2"></FONT></HTML> >> * >> * >> =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3>> D >> =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3>> D >> =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D >> osl...@listserv.boisestate.edu >> ----------------------------- >> To subscribe, unsubscribe, change your options, >> view the archives of osl...@listserv.boisestate.edu: >> http://listserv.boisestate.edu/archives/oslist.html >> >> To learn about OpenSpaceEmailLists and OSLIST FAQs: >> http://www.openspaceworld.org/oslist >> >> --part1_cb5.ffd189.32670eb7_boundary-- >> >> ------------------------------ >> >> End of OSLIST Digest - 16 Oct 2006 to 17 Oct 2006 (#2006-274) >> ************************************************************* > > * > * > ========================================================== > osl...@listserv.boisestate.edu > ------------------------------ > To subscribe, unsubscribe, change your options, > view the archives of osl...@listserv.boisestate.edu: > http://listserv.boisestate.edu/archives/oslist.html > > To learn about OpenSpaceEmailLists and OSLIST FAQs: > http://www.openspaceworld.org/oslist * * ========================================================== osl...@listserv.boisestate.edu ------------------------------ To subscribe, unsubscribe, change your options, view the archives of osl...@listserv.boisestate.edu: http://listserv.boisestate.edu/archives/oslist.html To learn about OpenSpaceEmailLists and OSLIST FAQs: http://www.openspaceworld.org/oslist