Hi all I am a newbie at all this and have never been to an OSONOS let alone a WOSONOS... So please could I have some data (from someone) in order that I might consider the implications of this email.
1) How many WOSONOS's have there been (14, I assume, but is this correct)? 2) Where have they occurred? 3) Who decides where the next WOSONOS will be? 4) And on what basis? 5) What makes an OSONOS a WOSONOS? Many thanks! Jon Harvey Oxford UK Original Message: ----------------- From: Yana Demenko y...@demenko.info Date: Tue, 10 Apr 2007 10:54:13 +0300 To: osl...@listserv.boisestate.edu Subject: angry feedback Dear OS Community, WOSonOS hosting team have got a very interesting feedback from Tree Fitzpatrick. I'm not going to comment it but I feel responsibility to share this mail with all of you. Whatever happens is the only thing that could have ... Best regards, Yana Demenko [e-mail] y...@demenko.info [post] p.o.box 4B, Kyiv-1, 01001, Ukraine [web] www.demenko.info [skype] yana_demenko Begin forwarded message: > > From: Tree Fitzpatrick [mailto:therese.fitzpatr...@gmail.com] > Sent: Tuesday, April 10, 2007 1:21 AM > To: GURT Resource Centre for NGO Development > Subject: Re: Invitation to 15th Worldwide Open Space on Open Space > > > > I have absolutely no interest in attending the OSonOS in Kiev this > year. I am writing to tell you why I am not interested. And I am > writing to complain that you have sent me this invitation. Where > did you get my email? You did not have my permission to use it. > > I was disappointed that people at OSonOS in Moscow hijacked this > important international gathering of OS practitioners from around > the world and insisted on taking the event to Kiev this year. The > OSonOS gathering belongs to practitioners around the world and it > has norms and traditions that you folks refused to honor when you > decided to 'steal' the event to Kiev this year. A key tradition of > OSonOS International has been to move around the world. > > I understand that one of your organizers was very aggressive in > Moscow, insisting on forcing OSonOS to Kiev. This makes me angry > and under no circumstances would I attend an event that was > demanded like this: I feel like coming would be tantamount to > giving in to a child after he had a tantrum. You folks in Kiev > were free to steal the event. . . but you could never win my > support of it. > > And, parenthetically, as it happens, Raffi did something similar at > Halifax OSonOS in 2005. The group was leaning towards having > OSonOS 2006 in Scotland and Raffi stood up and said "I don't care > what you people want, there is going to be an international OSonOS > in Moscow this year" and the Halifax group gave in to Raffi. I > mention this because now I am wondering if the Slavic world is > littered with bullies who think that imposing their will on people > is good collaboration? > > I also wonder if whoever that guy was, it was someone from Kiev who > was in Moscow at last year's conference, really gives a shit about > the rest of the world of OS practitioners. I wonder if this guy > realizes that senior OS practitioners all over the world have heard > about this behavior. > > I venture to guess that you are going to have a very low turnout at > this event. I suspect lots of people feel the way I do, that the > conference was birthed in an atmosphere of coersion, which is NOT > open space at all, is it? > > Please don't send me any more emails. I have reported you to my > email provider as spam. > > > -- > Love rays, > Tree Fitzpatrick > > http://thecultureoflove.blogspot.com/ > > . . . the great and incalculable grace of love, which says, with > Augustine, "I want you to be," without being able to give any > particular reason for such supreme and unsurpassable affirmation. > -- Hannah Arendt > > 1335 Montecito Ave Apt. 35 > Mountain View, California 94043 > (650) 967-9260 * * ========================================================== osl...@listserv.boisestate.edu ------------------------------ To subscribe, unsubscribe, change your options, view the archives of osl...@listserv.boisestate.edu: http://listserv.boisestate.edu/archives/oslist.html To learn about OpenSpaceEmailLists and OSLIST FAQs: http://www.openspaceworld.org/oslist -------------------------------------------------------------------- mail2web LIVE – Free email based on Microsoft® Exchange technology - http://link.mail2web.com/LIVE * * ========================================================== osl...@listserv.boisestate.edu ------------------------------ To subscribe, unsubscribe, change your options, view the archives of osl...@listserv.boisestate.edu: http://listserv.boisestate.edu/archives/oslist.html To learn about OpenSpaceEmailLists and OSLIST FAQs: http://www.openspaceworld.org/oslist
