Tom-- Your post has me wondering and playing with the notion that space could be opened around the theme of Ricardo Semler, the Peter Principle, and this place: Issues and Opportunities. What good could happen?
:- Doug. On Mon, 2008-07-21 at 19:40 +0930, Tom Tuddenham wrote: > Hi Ge > > Serendipity is a wonderful thing. I can tell you about a very recent > experience of my own: at work I've just stepped down from leading a > team of software developers, to focus on what I enjoy doing.. actual > coding. The details aren't all that important, as the same change > could happen anywhere. > > The Peter Principle came in there. I really felt like I was at the > edge of my competency and in real danger of being promoted to a point > beyond where I could be useful and sane at the same time. > Interestingly enough my line manager and I had been talking about > Semler's ideas in the weeks up to the change and decided that rather > than put someone new in my place that we'd try some sort of democratic > model to run the team under. > > Unfortunately what happened is a bit of power vacuum got created, > another member of the team anointed himself team-lead and instead of > dealing with it the team talked in puzzled voices about what it all > meant before burying their noses in their work. I'm probably being > unfair but in any case a degree of bad blood got generated very > quickly which we're only just getting over. > > How did things get so weird so quick? I think that in some ways we > needed to have a very clear cut definition of "democracy", instead of > just letting it happen organically. But I also think there are > pressures in the company pushing the team - or any team - to behave in > certain ways. Again I'm being a bit unfair as we have a fair degree of > latitude in the company - but it was interesting to watch things > happening seemingly at odds with the general consensus. > > The real serendipitous moment only came to me a minute ago, as I was > complaining about it all to my poor wife before realising (or being > told.. the lines blur) that I just don't need to worry about it any > more. Maybe this little ship will right itself, maybe it will sink. > But even if it does at least we'll have learned some lessons about > boat building. > > Good luck with whatever you are up to. I'd be very interested in > hearing where the Peter Principle and Semler's ideas coincide for you. > > Cheers > Tom > > > On Fri, Jul 18, 2008 at 6:42 PM, gerardo de luzenberger > <g...@scuolafacilitazione.it> wrote: > > Yesterday I bought to books. One is about Peter's Principle, the other is by > > Ricardo semler about what he did in his company semco. > > > > While going back home I was wondering about the serendipity of buying these > > two books, and how the things they say mix together? > > > > Any idea about that? > > > > Have a wonderful OSonOS > > > > I would have really liked to join you > > > > ge > > > > > > > > > > > > Gerardo de Luzenberger > > > > SSF - Scuola Superiore di Facilitazione > > > > Via Alessandro Volta 12 > > > > 20121 Milano > > > > tel: +39 02 45409189 > > > > g...@scuolafacilitazione.it > > > > www.scuoladifacilitazione.it > > > > www.loci.it > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > * * ========================================================== > > osl...@listserv.boisestate.edu ------------------------------ To subscribe, > > unsubscribe, change your options, view the archives of > > osl...@listserv.boisestate.edu: > > http://listserv.boisestate.edu/archives/oslist.html To learn about > > OpenSpaceEmailLists and OSLIST FAQs: http://www.openspaceworld.org/oslist > > * > * > ========================================================== > osl...@listserv.boisestate.edu > ------------------------------ > To subscribe, unsubscribe, change your options, > view the archives of osl...@listserv.boisestate.edu: > http://listserv.boisestate.edu/archives/oslist.html > > To learn about OpenSpaceEmailLists and OSLIST FAQs: > http://www.openspaceworld.org/oslist * * ========================================================== osl...@listserv.boisestate.edu ------------------------------ To subscribe, unsubscribe, change your options, view the archives of osl...@listserv.boisestate.edu: http://listserv.boisestate.edu/archives/oslist.html To learn about OpenSpaceEmailLists and OSLIST FAQs: http://www.openspaceworld.org/oslist