The only nap I ever took in Open Space was while hosting OSoOS IX in Vancouver. 
 After I opened space, I was overcome with a splitting headache.  I handed off 
the space holding duties to Laurel and lay down in a quiet but public space and 
slept for an hour.  When I awoke I was the subject of some good natured 
teasing, but I pointed out that, as Harrison had not joined us in Vancouver 
that year, someone had to take a nap.

Totally present, absolutely visible, completely asleep.

Advice to future OSonOS hosts.: The headaches you get are never the ones you 
expected to get.

Chris
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On 2010-06-03, at 2:37 PM, Harrison Owen wrote:

> Phelim – My answer is Yes! But you have to let your “intuition” (by whatever 
> name) do the work for you. I have had numberless experiences of enjoying my 
> nap (wherever…) and being suddenly “summoned.” My normal inclination was to 
> have rolled over and say (quietly) “Later!” – but with a little effort, that 
> “later” converted to “NOW.” And I got up and went wherever I was led. Which 
> was always the right place/time, even if I didn’t recognize it at the moment. 
> Weird, I guess, but it always seems to work if you listen carefully. (And 
> don’t roll over J)
>  
> Harrison
>  
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> From: OSLIST [mailto:osl...@listserv.boisestate.edu] On Behalf Of Phelim 
> McDermott
> Sent: Thursday, June 03, 2010 4:49 PM
> To: osl...@listserv.boisestate.edu
> Subject: Totally present absolutely invisible
>  
> I'm Interested in this wonderful skill:
> Being totally present and absolutely invisible
>  
>  
> It is what I aspire to every time I faciltate orvdirect a show and relates 
> very closely to stage presence as It is what I have worked with puppeteers in 
> training to do over the years. (it is especially useful dramatically when you 
> want to disappear and appear as if from nowhere onstage at just the right 
> time. A skill some of the best facilitators have or so I have heard!  
>  
> There is another aspect about this I am interested in which for me relates to 
> what some cultures would call the dreaming aspects of reality.
>  
> So here's the question: Is it possible to be in this state of 
> presence/invisibilty whilst on another space in the room? Or outside the 
> room? Or whilst asleep? 
>  
> So can one be totally present, absolutely invisible and take a nap? 
>  
> Phelim  
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> On 3 Jun 2010, at 21:23, Harrison Owen <hho...@verizon.net> wrote:
> 
> Michael – it would be really interesting to hear some actual situations where 
> what you are describing is true. I’ve never seen it, but I did hear of one. 
> It happened in South Africa where a local consultant took Open Space as a 
> license for absence. He literally left for most of the day. As it turned out 
> (as I heard from one of the participants) the group really didn’t miss him, 
> and was basically sorry to see him return. And that same participant was sure 
> that there had to be something more than he had seen. As a consequence he 
> came to a “training program” (back in the days when I used to do something 
> like that J) and subsequently opened space all over the place. So I guess 
> there was a happy ending after a rocky start. Or something.
>  
> But you really put your finger on something – “active listening” – which is 
> not so much about doing anything but rather Being intensely.  Definitely hard 
> to describe but my best shot is the enigmatic phrase – Being totally present 
> and absolutely invisible. In my experience this is a matter of intention and 
> practice. And the best part is that it is all definitely rewarding, not only 
> in terms of facilitating Open Space, but equally in terms of self 
> understanding and personal presence. It feels good.
>  
> Harrison
>  
> Harrison Owen
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> From: OSLIST [mailto:osl...@listserv.boisestate.edu] On Behalf Of Michael 
> Herman
> Sent: Thursday, June 03, 2010 2:41 PM
> To: osl...@listserv.boisestate.edu
> Subject: Re: On "Failure"
>  
> i have a teacher who likes to put little reminders on pencils and pass them 
> around.  one of my favorite pencils says:  "really easy is often quite 
> difficult."  
> 
> i think this is true of open space.  i've seen a number of situations where 
> the facilitator or the process itself was assumed to be a bit of magic, so 
> nobody needed to do much else to make it happen.  this makes all kinds of 
> large and small "failures" possible -- all owing to some lapses in the 
> quality of attention, awareness, relationship.
> 
> somebody once told me that carl rogers (some sort of psychologist, i think) 
> used to listen so intently that he would often break out in a sweat -- just 
> listening to someone.  sometimes i think open space takes this sort of 
> quality or intensity of attention... or maybe of awareness.  that the heart 
> is this active, even if the body is apparently doing nothing.  like when so 
> many muscles are engaged in walking a balance beam, or timing a jump.  
> actively pulsing, checking, on and off, holding and releasing, inviting and 
> reporting.  
> 
> i'd guess a fair number of "failures" have their roots in forgetting that os 
> is this sort of active practice, even if a lot of the action is not outwardly 
> visible or dramatic or difficult.  weirdenss seems to flow from gaps in 
> clarity, in attention, in awareness, in relationship.  not so much, i think, 
> from gaps in actual outer logistics.  
> 
> m
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> --
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> Michael Herman
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> 
> 
> On Thu, Jun 3, 2010 at 12:07 PM, VISUELLE PROTOKOLLE 
> <m...@visuelle-protokolle.de> wrote:
> Harrison and all,
> 
> Another example of an OS that went terribly wrong:
> 
> It was a factory producing printing machines, both in Eastern and western 
> Germany, and the participants were mixed from both areas. We had the o.k. 
> from the four directors, to whom we had illustrated what to expect, and a 
> final conference after the OS was already determined. One of the directors, 
> the one who seemed to be the most employee-oriented, was choosen to say some 
> words at the end of the OS. Our partner in the company was a young man from 
> HR, very active, with good contacts to the directors. So he insisted that he 
> should brief the director what to say at the end of OS.
> 
> Everything went fine. The groups worked with joy and enthusiasm. We 
> accompanied the whole OS with 3 people visualizing everything, and that was a 
> big success, because  everybody could see what had happened everywhere. After 
> we had shown the pictures in a final slideshow, the director stood up and 
> destroyed everything within 5 minutes. He said that he was disappointed, had 
> expected other outcomes, and that the managers wood have a hard time to use 
> some of the results.
> 
> That was the end of the project for us, but much worse all the participants 
> were angry and a big chance was lost for the company.
> 
> Of course the mistake was to let the young HR-man brief the director. 
> 
> Reinhard
> 
> Reinhard Kuchenmüller 
> Dr. Marianne Stifel
> VISUELLE PROTOKOLLE
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> 
> 
> 
> 
> Am 03/06/10 18:12 schrieb "Ralph Copleman" unter <rcople...@comcast.net>:
> 
> Harrison and all,
> 
> I've had a few that sort of fell flat.
> 
> One involved a group concerned about availability of services for senior 
> citizens across an entire US state.  Two-thirds of the room consisted of 
> seniors themselves and, frankly, a lot of them ran out of energy about an 
> hour after lunch.  So they sat around, a number slumping in chairs with eyes 
> closed.
> 
> Another involved an exploration of customer service issues for an airline.  
> Lots of corporate leaders from the airline present, along with their booking 
> agents (this pre-dates internet booking sites), frequent flyer customers, and 
> corporate travel execs who make travel policy for their companies.  A great 
> mix, actually.  We were set to go from 8:00 a.m to 4:00.  About 2:00, a group 
> of participants more or less seized control of the meeting somehow (I wasn't 
> in the room when it occurred) and got everyone to agree to shorten the 
> meeting by a full hour.  When I returned at 3:00, someone simply informed me, 
> and asked that I begin the closing circle.  So that's what I did.  I never 
> found out what actually happened.
> 
> Not sure how to think about that last one, since I never found out how it all 
> developed, but the following one is more like a true failure.
> 
> I was asked to convene a two-day open space gathering for about 200 folks 
> from around the US.  It would be the annual meeting of an association of a 
> certain type of public health officer (cannot recall the details).  The whole 
> thing was pretty dead from the outset –– I mean 200 people posting a total of 
> only 15 sessions for two whole days!?  I found out the theme was all wrong.  
> The planning committee chose an idea that turned out to have no juice for the 
> association's members.  I had spent hours in conference calls with the 
> leadership group and the planning committee, and they'd assured me that the 
> idea they chose was at the heart of the challenges facing them and their 
> organizations.  Turns out that was dead wrong.  Nobody else cared.  I don't 
> know how I might have seen through this situation ahead of time.
> 
> I essentially agree with you, H.  If the conditions are appropriate, it will 
> work.  But, if the three experiences above teach me anything, it's clear that 
> stuff can always happens.
> 
> Ralph Copleman
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