It
is interesting to see how different situations and conditions influence what we
are able to understand (or, even more clearly, what we are "able to see"...)
 
I
think that today it is obvious to make a distinction between what were the
"demonstrations of the 60's" in a (so called) democracy (I am
referring to the USA) and what is happening today across many Middle East
countries.
 
But
my point is a different one. Many of the older people in this list have been in
demonstrations in Western Countries in the 60's (USA, France or Germany are
examples). 
 
Me
too, I have been in demonstrations in the late 60's in Portugal and then
created 2 different organizations (one in Portugal and the other in
Angola) that had the same spirit. The difference was that Portugal was (with
Spain) one of the last fascist governments in Europe and the last to have
colonies, so, from 1968 to the 25/April/1974 those organizations had to be
clandestine (like in the French resistance during the II World War) and the
risks were high - one could be arrested, tortured, disappear, or be killed by a
lost bullet during those "demonstrations" or other much less open
events or distributions of propaganda. Due to the difficulties in communicating
openly, those anti-fascist and/or anti-colonialist organizations were closed
and not known from the others, but have surely contributed to the
re-establishment of democracy in 74.
 
But
the interesting point is not that one. After the democracy was re-established
many of us returned to their professions. But others have decided to become 
political
professionals, and have entered to the political parties that were created
after the Revolution. Many of those have completely changed their values as
they become used to the perks of High Government responsibilities or public 
owned
companies or other organizations (including NGO's) and the corruption that they
(and their friends) practiced after that. Indeed many of them are now rich -
with accounts in fiscal paradises because of the way they have make a living of
exploring others and are the major responsible for our current financial crisis.
 
So,
in my country (and I am not saying that this applies to others - each one must
think about one's situation), I am able to identify very clearly which are the
people that were once "good guys" but are now "bad guys".
And yes, I can be sure that, in my country, they still exist, even if they now
use different methods...
 
Regards
 
Artur     



 



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Good stuff, Birgitt! But I am not quite sure where you are going. Which is 
fine. And as an old time activist (on the streets in the early ‘60’s) I surely 
recognize the “Good Guys – Bad Guys” scenario. It wasn’t very accurate, but it 
certainly was thrilling. Power to the People, Baby! Maybe we have progressed a 
little? A nuance, here or there?
 
ho
 
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[mailto:oslist-boun...@lists.openspacetech.org] On Behalf Of Birgitt Williams
Sent: Sunday, September 11, 2011 4:07 PM
To: 'World wide Open Space Technology email list'; 'Artur Silva'
Subject: Re: [OSList] Control, Perceived Control, and the Loss Thereof
 
Dear friends and colleagues,
A story that comes to mind as I read this thread is one of a granddaughter at 
age 3 running around the house, shouting in sheer delight “I am a human being”. 
It was a discovery for her that day and she was very excited. I continue to 
share in the excitement of being human…a human being and not a human doing.
 
Along the way, I have made some discoveries. One is that reality as we perceive 
it is only an illusion, and that if there are twelve people in a room, there 
are twelve perspectives of reality. Once upon a time in my activist years, I 
thought of reality as having good guys and bad guys, a light shirt team and a 
dark shirt team, and I bought into the illusion of this polarized duality, 
believing that I could ‘liberate’ others. I acted accordingly and led marches 
on City Hall, and so on. It is no longer how I perceive reality. In my current 
reality, there is no ‘us’ and ‘them’, only ‘us’. And the ‘us’ is doing our best 
to figure out life on planet earth. 
 
Another story that I like is one in which God and Goddess created the Universe, 
identified some laws or givens for it all to work well, and then asked those 
souls who wanted to be born into human form to remember to take along their 
instruction manuals so that life on earth could be easy and to live with our 
birthright which is ‘JOY’. A lot of us were excited to come to Planet Earth. I 
suspect those of us who love participatory methods like Open Space Technology, 
Whole Person Process Facilitation, Appreciative Inquiry, World Café and so on 
knew each other before incarnating in this incarnation and we agreed that there 
was important work to do together. We were so sure that we knew how to navigate 
life on Planet Earth that we threw the instruction manuals away, ignored the 
meta-givens that we were presented with that would bring about the conditions 
for us to live in continual joy, and now we are left realizing that those 
instruction manuals would be
 handy indeed.  There are the givens of creation…I wish I understood them 
better, although some are now clear to me.
 
I am of the belief that if something is presented and you find it useful, then 
use it. If you find that you are not in harmony with it, then don’t use it. You 
are your own guru and you will know best. One great test to determine if 
something is useful is to ask questions that come from NLP about something 
presented as fact by asking, if this were true, what would I see, what would I 
hear, what would I feel….and one that I think is useful is ‘what would I know?” 
. and then conduct life and work from what you conclude is useful.
 
I find it useful to have adopted beliefs in ‘us’, in a unified field, in a 
recognition of emergence and expanded consciousness. What have you found it 
useful to have adopted beliefs in? And how do these beliefs affect your work 
with OST?
 
Blessings to all,
Birgitt
 
From:Harrison Owen [mailto:hho...@verizon.net] 
Sent: Sunday, September 11, 2011 11:06 AM
To: 'Artur Silva'; 'World wide Open Space Technology email list'
Subject: Re: [OSList] Control, Perceived Control, and the Loss Thereof
 
Herewith Artur…
 
Space closes,innovation withers, agility get clunky – and organizational health 
shows critical signs of decline in terms of loss of productivity, efficiency, 
effectiveness – to say nothing of employee morale and self-respect. Not a 
pretty picture.
 
Would you agree then that those organizations, at that point in time, can be 
considered "closed"?
 
HO -- I suspect it may be a totally natural reaction – but my observation is 
that fear (from whatever cause) closes space. In the US we speak of “circling 
the wagons” to describe what happens when danger (real or perceived) lurks – it 
is the classical defensive posture. When the danger is real, the response can 
be effective, but as a long term solution it is limiting to say the least. With 
the wagons circled, it is very hard to move to new places JSo the organizations 
alluded to above are either closed or closing. But in any case they can hardly 
be considered vital, alive, and growing. The tragedy is that, when the fear is 
a self inflicted wound – the response (closing space) is literally suicidal.
 
Artur -- Would you agree that all the past discussions about the "givens" were 
precisely about that - one way to try to shield the executives that some 
"givens" will be out of discussion at the OST event?
 
HO – Sure – but definitely not the only way. Variants include, “Doing a little 
bit of  Open Space” – just to make sure that things don’t “get out of control.” 
Truthfully we have multiple ways of avoiding reality and preserving illusion. 
Think of all the stories about The Emperor’s Clothes.
 
Artur -- And what do you think about an almost opposite strategy for the 
Pre-work of trying to "prepare" the prospective client that he/she will lose 
control but that is ok...? (I say "almost opposite" as your way seems to 
recommend that the facilitator gets out of the way and let the client think and 
decide, and the other is almost trying to "educate the client"...)
 
HO – Educating the client is an essential undertaking, for sure. Which 
immediately raises the question – what is the most effective means (of 
education)? In cases where the problem arises because of ignorance or 
misunderstanding of the “facts” – the way forward is pretty straight forward. 
Present the facts and make the argument. Case closed. But I think the situation 
relative to “fear of loss of control” places us in very different waters. From 
the point of view of our Executive, all of the facts of his experience, to say 
nothing of the practice of (many of) his peers and the burden of the literature 
say that the preservation of control is the sine qua non of professional 
competence. To be out of control is to be out of a job! And furthermore, what 
happens in Open Space (or is purported to happen) simply couldn’t happen. So 
why would you want to go there?
 
I think that what we are dealing with here may better be understood as a 
discontinuous leap or paradigm shift. By definition, rational argument won’t 
get you there. But genuine experience can. Not always, and sometimes with 
degrees of pain and discomfort – depending on the level of resistance. 
Participating in Open Space is one way of gaining that experience. Can you 
prepare people for that experience? Maybe, but I think it is equally possible 
that your efforts at preparation could well convince the hesitant Executive 
never to take the trip. If you clearly and honestly describe what will happen, 
telling folks that they will find themselves in a complex, swirling environment 
with ideas and issues catalyzing unknown results over which you, Mr/Ms 
Executive will not have a shred of control  -- that could produce a convinced 
stay at home! It is not unlike swimming I think. You can do all the dry land 
exercises you like, and have ever so many people
 calling – come on in the water is fine! But at the end of the day you just 
have to get in the water. And for sure it is no help to have somebody assure 
you that you need not worry because you will only get a “little bit wet.”
 
Harrison
 
 
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Potomac, MD 20854
USA
 
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[mailto:oslist-boun...@lists.openspacetech.org] On Behalf Of Artur Silva
Sent: Sunday, September 11, 2011 8:58 AM
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Thanks for your tough provoking post, Harrison. Some thoughts and questions 
inline.
 

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Subject: [OSList] Control, Perceived Control, and the Loss Thereof
Keith wrote: “Loss (or perceived loss?) of control is also something that some 
senior leaders struggle with.”
 
True – and not only in Open Space. It may be my own perversity, but I find this 
to be a very useful struggle which may bring these folks to a deeper 
understanding of themselves, the organizations they serve, and the world in 
which we live. The actual truth of the matter (and for sure my personal 
experience) is that control of the sort they are afraid of losing never was 
theirs to begin with. Agonizing over  something the doesn’t exist is not only a 
little silly, it also bespeaks of something approaching delusion, if not 
delusion itself. The pain of their agonizing is to be regretted, but it is a 
self inflicted wound, and unfortunately its impact is not limited to the 
nervous executive(s). It can (and often does) effect the entire organization in 
adverse and sometimes lethal ways.Space closes, innovation withers, agility get 
clunky – and organizational health shows critical signs of decline in terms of 
loss of productivity, efficiency,
 effectiveness – to say nothing of employee morale and self-respect. Not a 
pretty picture.
 
Would you agree then that those organizations, at that point in time, can be 
considered "closed"? 
 
 
(...) 
 
There is no question in my mind that there are massive good works to be done 
coaching executives through their addiction to control. And it really is an 
addiction, I think, and should be treated as such. Those in the “Addiction 
Business” will tell you that, of the many barriers and difficulties to be faced 
and overcome –The Enabler is a major obstacle to health. Enablers are typically 
good hearted souls who in the name of sympathy, empathy and compassion do 
little things, and large, to effectively shield the addict from a direct 
confrontation with his/her addiction. I more than suspect that when we seek to 
shield an executive from the possibility of losing control in Open Space, we 
are doing something of the same sort, and for sure we are not doing anybody a 
favor. Should our efforts take the form of assuring people that “certain” 
items/issues will be kept carefully under protective cover (read “control”), 
that constitutes promises we
 can’t keep. If the items/issues are truly important to somebody (other than 
the nervous executive) – they will be present, one way or another. If not in a 
“session” then for sure in some back hall conversations where it is most likely 
that they will fester and grow. 
 
Would you agree that all the past discussions about the "givens" were precisely 
about that - one way to try to shield the executives that some "givens" will be 
out of discussion at the OST event?
 
Pre-work, as Lisa Heft is wont to tell us, is important. But I find that (at 
least in the case of executive fears) it can be pretty straight forward. I 
simply describe what Open Space is and the kinds of results I have witnessed, 
making little reference to how it works – unless asked. In most cases we 
proceed directly to operational concerns: Theme, location, dates, etc. But in 
the event that the conversation moves to issues of control and the perceived 
lack of same, I tend to call for a time out, suggesting that maybe they need 
some more time to think about their needs and the appropriateness of Open 
Space. If I don’t think they have heard me, I put it a little stronger. I 
suggest that they think about any other way to achieve their ends. And should 
they run out of options, call me back. I run about 50/50 on the call backs. But 
when they call they are ready to go. So am I.
 
And what do you think about an almost opposite strategy for the Pre-work of 
trying to "prepare" the prospective client that he/she will lose control but 
that is ok...? (I say "almost opposite" as your way seems to recommend that the 
facilitator gets out of the way and let the client think and decide, and the 
other is almost trying to "educate the client"...)
 
Thanks for any clarifications.
 
Regards
 
Artur
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