Lovely - your story is shared with wisdom and humor. Thanks.

Juan T. Lopez


On Dec 13, 2011, at 12:53 PM, "Harrison Owen" <hho...@verizon.net> wrote:

> Ah Michael, you old ‘cyclist you! I surely get the picture, understand the 
> drift, but my perspective may be a little different. As the father of 5 and 
> grandfather of 6 (last one still too small to ride…yet) I know something of 
> training wheels and holding on to the back of the seat.
>  
> First for the training wheels. Fantastic invention. Provides a relatively 
> painless introduction to the great art of cycling while offering relief to 
> the aching back of the parent (you don’t have to bend over while running). 
> Seems to go pretty much all by itself. Lesson for Open Space? Do it simple, 
> do it smart – and never do more than you have to (One more thing not to do!).
>  
> Then The Steady Hand Routine. There comes a time when the training wheels 
> come off, but still a little learning to do in preparation for the solo ride. 
> Your “Steady Hand” can help with the transition. But at a price. You get to 
> stoop and run a lot. L But Thank God – Most kids get it real quick, maybe 
> even quicker than they should, and always faster than their parents. But that 
> is what youth is all about. Suddenly you find yourself running a lot faster 
> than you really wanted to. Of course, you could try to hold on, but that only 
> creates a lose/lose situation. You get pooped and the kid gets frustrated. 
> Answer? Let go!! Lesson for Open Space? I think it is the same thing.
>  
> Sooner or later we come to the whole matter of STOPPING. You can be assured 
> that one way or another, and hopefully without a great deal of pain and 
> destruction… Stopping will take place and the ride will end. It could well be 
> that some handholding and a band aid or two will be needed, but for the most 
> part a lot of cheering from the curb, along with some small amount of 
> coaching, will take care of the business. As it turns out, there is more to 
> riding a bike than pumping the peddles, but that is just details.
>  
> When it is all over there is the marvelous opportunity for some great 
> conversation along with a suitable libation. A Coke will do, but there are 
> alternatives for the parent.  Just think of all the rides to come and the 
> possibility of shared adventures… On your own, Kid and you can forget about 
> training wheels and the helping hand. And with a little luck, you can share 
> your new found knowledge and skills with your younger siblings. YES! It is 
> called paying it forward.
>  
> Harrison
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> From: oslist-boun...@lists.openspacetech.org 
> [mailto:oslist-boun...@lists.openspacetech.org] On Behalf Of Michael Herman
> Sent: Tuesday, December 13, 2011 12:33 PM
> To: World wide Open Space Technology email list
> Subject: Re: [OSList] OST - Open Systems Thinking
>  
> i think the training wheels image is itself a half-way sort of thing.  yes, 
> ost is sort of training wheels in the first or maybe even few times used.  
> but probably enough as just a one time use.  as soon as a client or group i'm 
> with has that first taste of the movement, my thinking and working with them 
> always shifts in the direction of a parent running behind the bicycle.  
> 
> the traininig wheels image preserves a discrete separation between wheels on 
> and wheels off.  i find that in making the transition, it's much more 
> informative to thinking of myself as a steady hand on the back edge of the 
> seat... sometimes a firm guide, sometimes lightly present feeling for first 
> signs of deviations from balance, and then also some time of running behind 
> and not touching at all... so that i can say very clearly and truly... you 
> really were doing it all by yourself.  
> 
> the most important thing i think i do with people after that first taste in 
> oepn space, is open the conversation about what ost is, why it worked (what 
> are the shapes naturally embedded within it) and where are those (natural) 
> shapes already occuring in everyday work of the group.  often, all th shapes 
> are there.  sometimes there are gaps where support might be strengthened, 
> sometimes there are things to stop doing because they get in the way.  but 
> mostly, the pieces are all there and just need to be better understood, more 
> consciously connected, and inforrmed by that first experience of what the 
> body(ies) feel like when sailing down the sidewalk.  
> 
> ost is normal, i think, not when they have a copy of the book in the company 
> library, or a corps of facilitators duly certified in the "tool" but when 
> some sense of self-regulation/organization-regulation (continuous progress 
> and constant balancing) has been recognized as part of every job description 
> in the place.  
> 
> in somatics we can make a distinction between being aware of our body, in the 
> body (still separate), and as a body.  much like harrison's early observation 
> that ost is not about better meetings, or even better organizations, but a 
> better way of being in organization.  maybe also captured in the ways little 
> kids talk in english about "riding my bike" and how folks who've been at it a 
> long time, life and riding, tend to describe themselves as "cyclists." 
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> Michael Herman
> Michael Herman Associates
> 312-280-7838 (mobile)
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> http://OpenSpaceWorld.org
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> On Tue, Dec 13, 2011 at 10:41 AM, Harrison Owen <hho...@verizon.net> wrote:
> Far be it for me to pay less than full honor to Open Space and still less, to 
> pay less than profound homage to all the good friends and colleagues who have 
> journeyed along the way. But at the end of the day, I find myself in full 
> agreement with friend Chris Corrigan who aptly described Open Space as 
> “training wheels.” Training wheels are very helpful when you are learning to 
> ride a bike, but you want to get rid of them as soon as possible. We aren’t 
> there yet, and there is still a place for “doing” an Open Space – and doing 
> it as well and simply as possible. But I always do it with a strong caveat, 
> warning, or perhaps a plea. Just remember, I say, there is absolutely nothing 
> I am doing with you that you can’t do for yourself. It ain’t rocket science! 
> I have been doing (saying) that for a long time. And now I think I would 
> raise the ante – Don’t just “Do”  an Open Space – BE it 24X7!! Open the space 
> of your life and the lives of those around you, and you will discover your 
> own natural state, as a participant in this wonderful self-organizing world. 
> Good old OST has been very useful, to say nothing of fun, as a training 
> environment and a grand experiment. But when the lessons are learned and the 
> data is in – it is time to get on with life, as soon as possible.
>  
> As I said, we (as the global collective) are obviously not there yet – but I 
> think I can see a little light at the end of the tunnel. Of course that may 
> just be the train, but when it comes to hopes and expectations I can only 
> say/wish “Bye bye OST – Hello Life! Or something.
>  
> Harrison
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>  
> Harrison Owen
> 7808 River Falls Dr.
> Potomac, MD 20854
> USA
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> [mailto:oslist-boun...@lists.openspacetech.org] On Behalf Of Birgitt Williams
> Sent: Tuesday, December 13, 2011 10:30 AM
> 
> To: 'World wide Open Space Technology email list'
> Subject: Re: [OSList] OST - Open Systems Thinking
>  
> Dear Harrison,
> A different perspective, in this case mine, is that we really honor Open 
> Space Technology as an important meeting facilitation method, and that we are 
> good stewards for its integrity (wholeness). This would mean that we preserve 
> it in its original form for generations to come for their use and thereby a 
> tool for the ongoing life nurturing shifts for humanity. Why would you want 
> to advocate distilling this down to something that blends into disappearance 
> when it is such a valuable tool?
>  
> Birgitt
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> [mailto:oslist-boun...@lists.openspacetech.org] On Behalf Of Harrison Owen
> Sent: Tuesday, December 13, 2011 8:23 AM
> To: 'World wide Open Space Technology email list'
> Subject: Re: [OSList] OST - Open Systems Thinking
>  
> I love it! Confusion!! Reminds me of days long ago when I had a newsletter 
> called “TWG Newsletter” In fact the letters stood for absolutely nothing at 
> all – leading my friend Peter Vaill to muse that since they didn’t mean 
> anything in particular, everybody was free to supply their own meanings. His 
> offerings: “Those Who Grock,” “Transformation Without Gurus” – and a few more 
> I can’t recall. This lead to sort of a contest with the latest offerings 
> appearing in the “TWG News” (of course.) Actually, the simple solution to all 
> of this is to recognize that it is all Open Space, call it whatever you like. 
> Perhaps the best option is to call it nothing at all, in which case it (by 
> whatever name) would simply disappear in a cloud of everydayness. Wonderful..
>  
> Harrison  
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> [mailto:oslist-boun...@lists.openspacetech.org] On Behalf Of Bernhard Weber
> Sent: Tuesday, December 13, 2011 6:52 AM
> To: Artur Silva; World wide Open Space Technology email list
> Subject: Re: [OSList] OST - Open Systems Thinking
>  
> Hi Artur
> Interesting indeed.
> Though my first emotional reaction was: being embarrassed (because they have 
> "stolen" the OST Acronym;-)
> Bernardo
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> Am 12.12.2011 um 20:22 schrieb Artur Silva:
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> Hi:
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> Have any of you ever heard about this?
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> OST - OPEN SYSTEMS THINKING:
> http://www.thelightonthehill.com/
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> Interesting...
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