Hi Eric, Priorities -
* Write up meetings with Jamil, Fatur, Desy * Get flow charts into computer * Schedule meetings with Arta and each program manager to go over the programs and schedule Govt Relations Meeting I have a meeting from 4:30 to 6:30 this evening and will be at Dave¹s meeting on and off during the day. If you would like to talk, give a call and we can work on timing. I had a good talk with Pak Arif from the review team nice guy and looks like a very good resource, but busy. Dave¹s workshop is going well, and he gave some good overview training on document management which will help me manage up very useful. Having everyone in training for a whole week is frustrating as everything else has to be done ³around the edges² (vent vent) Cheers Frank On 10/23/12 3:05 AM, "oslist-requ...@lists.openspacetech.org" <oslist-requ...@lists.openspacetech.org> wrote: > Send OSList mailing list submissions to > oslist@lists.openspacetech.org > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > http://lists.openspacetech.org/listinfo.cgi/oslist-openspacetech.org > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > oslist-requ...@lists.openspacetech.org > > You can reach the person managing the list at > oslist-ow...@lists.openspacetech.org > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of OSList digest..." > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Re: Peggy plus OST Linkedin Comment (Koos de Heer) > 2. Fwd: Awakening Our Senses - Tricycle Daily Dharma, October > 21, 2012 (Christine Whitney Sanchez) > 3. Fwd: Awakening Our Senses - Tricycle Daily Dharma, October > 21, 2012 (Christine Whitney Sanchez) > 4. Critiquing a WOSonOS - [formerly titled 'Peggy plus OST > Linkedin'] (Raffi Aftandelian) > 5. Re: Peggy plus OST Linkedin Comment (Chris Corrigan) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Sun, 21 Oct 2012 18:50:31 +0200 > From: Koos de Heer <k...@auryn.nl> > To: World wide Open Space Technology email list > <oslist@lists.openspacetech.org> > Subject: Re: [OSList] Peggy plus OST Linkedin Comment > Message-ID: <mdv1gktqdp22ok117q0mxln9.1350836749...@email.android.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" > > Dear Pernilla, > > Thank you for sharing your observations. > > I agree with what you write about the Law of Two Feet and I have experimented > with the way I explain it in my introductions. > > After explaining what the Law of two Feet is, I usually say that folks of > course have the opportunity to just get up and leave quietly, no need for > apologies or explanations. And there is also the option to give a voice to the > fact that you are not tuned in to the conversation. It might be that the train > your thoughts are taking (or the very fact that you are distracted) is a very > valuable contribution to the conversation. If that is not the case, you still > have the option of leaving quietly. > > I say this as a way to invite a voice that might otherwise go unspoken. > > Warm greetings from a drizzling London Sunday afternoon (on my way home) > > Koos de Heer > > Pernilla Luttropp <pluttr...@swipnet.se>schreef: > >> I have a tendency to get stuck in polarisations, and it is seldom a >> productive way forward - if that?s the way I want to go. >> I enjoy reading your reflections on if Open Space Technology is imprisoned >> or not and I?ll try to keep my awareness on not ending up in good/bad, >> prison/freedom, structure/chaos, right/wrong etc. >> >> But I do think that OST rises a fundamental and existential question of >> wanting to take part in a community, and contribute in any way possible, or >> to walk away to another community or to solitude. It is for sure one of the >> most fundamental questions in my life and it has sometimes left me in a >> shaky/vague/uncertain position. Who can I turn to if I?m in doubt of if this >> community will provide the safety I need in order to explore this >> existential matter? At WOSonOS I got the opportunity to try to put these >> thoughts into words together with other people who shared their >> vulnerability, fears and emotions with me. I?m very grateful to those of you >> who shared this with me. At some other sessions I didn?t feel that safety or >> openness of exploring the questions I raised at that very moment, so I used >> my two feet. I later found out that someone else (thank you Tova) took my >> chair and the conversation went on - whenever it starts is the right time. >> To me that is the strength of a working community, it?s not about me and my >> needs (it?s a starting point but not the goal). It?s about what I bring and >> how it is received. To me it?s about the latin word communicare, to share >> and make common. It takes a lot of courage to take a step in to the circle, >> at least for me. And it takes a lot of awareness from the community in >> order to stay open to change and soft voices. >> >> Since I left London I?ve facilitated two Open Spaces, both came out of >> politicians need to talk about democracy. They were very different but they >> made me notice how hard it can be for some people to leave a circle (or the >> event), how hard it can be to be left by others and the courage to stay and >> stick to your needs, even if you are only half aware of what they are. It >> makes me humble and a bit scared of what I put people through. And being the >> person I am, I?m interested in what makes people stay and leave in order to >> talk about the community. Not just to say that it?s the law. >> >> To create a community were we try to invite these feelings, thoughts and >> actions (and everything in between) and at the same time try to put it in to >> some kind of organized form, is not an easy task. I don?t have the answer on >> how to do that, and I think there are many answers, but as long as I can >> raise questions and someone answers, I?m happy to be part of this circle and >> community. >> >> From a rainy Stockholm in Sweden >> Pernilla Luttropp >> >> >> >> Den 2012-10-21 12.22, skrev "Koos de Heer" <k...@auryn.nl>: >> >>> Hi Chris, >>> >>> I am not sure I understand what you mean when you say that the law of two >>> feet >>> applies. If it means as much as "This is Open Space, love it or leave it," I >>> feel compelled to say that I don't support that. >>> >>> Of course I can walk out of a session if I am feeling that I am neither >>> learning nor contributing. But if I have the idea that the Open Space >>> gathering as a whole could use improvements in the way it is run, referring >>> to >>> the law of two feet can become a way to evade a discussion that needs to >>> take >>> place. It can take place at a later date, which is what is happening now and >>> that is fine. >>> >>> Koos >>> >>> >>> Op 20 okt. 2012 om 21:23 heeft Chris Corrigan <chris.corri...@gmail.com> het >>> volgende geschreven: >>> >>>> The critique in the article is fine. And the subsequent link Phelim sent >>>> along is fine too. Paul's tone is a bit jarring and his argument isn't >>>> helped >>>> by making a lot of generalized statements. Also he critiques WOSonOS in a >>>> way >>>> that makes it hard to separate his critique if the event from a critique of >>>> the team, even though he later clarifies that he wasn't critiquing the >>>> facilitator. It's tricky to make a forceful and powerful critique without >>>> it >>>> seeming personal. >>>> >>>> My response to these posts is that Paul is right in substance. In general >>>> my >>>> take in things is that the Law of Two Feet applies. If you are not learning >>>> or contributing find some way or some where that you can. That's what makes >>>> things better. Obviously expecting others to change the way the way a >>>> process >>>> seems too dependant on them is rational madness. >>>> >>>> Chris >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> OSList mailing list >> To post send emails to OSList@lists.openspacetech.org >> To unsubscribe send an email to oslist-le...@lists.openspacetech.org >> To subscribe or manage your subscription click below: >> http://lists.openspacetech.org/listinfo.cgi/oslist-openspacetech.org > -------------- next part -------------- > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > URL: > <http://lists.openspacetech.org/pipermail/oslist-openspacetech.org/attachments > /20121021/1e06101d/attachment.html> > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 2 > Date: Sun, 21 Oct 2012 16:07:10 -0700 > From: Christine Whitney Sanchez <christ...@innovationpartners.com> > To: Open Space List <oslist@lists.openspacetech.org> > Subject: [OSList] Fwd: Awakening Our Senses - Tricycle Daily Dharma, > October 21, 2012 > Message-ID: > <f0fcba9b-fa35-4b8a-8a6c-76cd09db7...@innovationpartners.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" > > Thought you might enjoy this voice from the larger field. With a special bow > to you, Phelim, and with appreciation for the amazing way you brought Glass' > Satyagraha to life. > > Sent from my iPhone > > Begin forwarded message: > >> From: "Tricycle: The Buddhist Review" <tricy...@tricycle.com> >> Date: October 21, 2012, 12:02:08 AM MST >> To: christ...@innovationpartners.com >> Subject: Awakening Our Senses - Tricycle Daily Dharma, October 21, 2012 >> Reply-To: tricy...@tricycle.com >> >> >> >> Tricycle Daily Dharma October 21, 2012 >> Awakening Our Senses >> >> The problem with listening, of course, is that we don't. There's too much >> noise going on in our heads, so we never hear anything. The inner >> conversation simply never stops. It can be our voice or whatever voices we >> want to supply, but it's a constant racket. In the same way we don't see, and >> in the same way we don't feel, we don't touch, we don't taste. >> >> - Philip Glass, "Listening to Philip Glass" >> Read the entire article in the Tricycle Wisdom Collection through October >> 23rd, 2012 >> For full access at any time, become a Tricycle Community Supporting or >> Sustaining Member >> >> >> Today on Tricycle >> SPONSORED LINKS >> WEEK 3 OF RIGHT SPEECH ONLINE RETREAT >> Vishvapani Blomfield continues his retreat with "Communicating with Meaning," >> an examination of our intentions across all forms of communication?from >> jokes, to television, to dharma talks?suggesting the primacy of intention >> over subject matter in regards to Right Speech. Vishvapani encourages us to >> reflect more fully on our inner values and motivations that inform our >> speech, enabling us to better abstain from frivolous, meaningless speech, and >> direct language in a highly charged, refined way that is conducive to genuine >> communication. This week is exclusively available to sustaining and >> supporting members of Tricycle. Join the retreat. >> >> THIS WEEK: PILGRIMAGE SPECIAL SECTION >> Pilgrimage has a rich religious background in Buddhist history. It is >> traditionally linked to devotion and faith, and the spiritual merit conferred >> by visiting sacred sites. Contemporary pilgrimage, by contrast, usually has >> more to do with the spirit with which you embark on your journey than with >> any special power associated with the site itself. Wherever they happen to be >> going, pilgrims today often take the attitude that by its very nature, travel >> can reveal essential Buddhist truths. Our special section on pilgrimage >> explores these themes and more with an essay by perpetual pilgrim Pico Iyer, >> "The Long Road to Sitting Still," and an interview with the "atheist pilgrim" >> Stephen Batchelor. Read about pilgrimage. >> = member supported content >> Free E-Book! >> Are you right? How about your speech? It?s that time of year when the mud >> flies fast and furious, and the blogosphere cries ?wrong? and ?foul? at every >> turn. Tsk. But how about that juicy piece of gossip floating around the >> office? Or that Facebook post, tweet, or email flameout you?d rather forget? >> Tricycle Teachings: Right Speech offers compassionate words of advice for all >> of us who at times have used our words as weapons, and describes the tools >> and methods used by skillful speakers to turn thoughts into expressions of >> wisdom and peace. For Supporting and Sustaining Members only. Join the >> Tricycle Community and get the free e-book now. >> Being in the World >> Being in the World asks whether we have forgotten what it means to be truly >> human in today's technological age, and proceeds to answer this question by >> taking a journey around the world to meet a whole host of remarkable >> individuals, including Manuel Molina, the legendary poet and flamenco master; >> Leah Chase, affectionately known as the Queen of Creole Cuisine; and Hiroshi >> Sakaguchi, a master carpenter from Japan. By showing how these modern day >> masters approach life from within their chosen fields, Ruspoli's film >> celebrates the ability of human beings to find meaning in the world through >> the mastery of physical, intellectual, and creative skills. Now available >> exclusively from Alive Mind Cinema on DVD. Buy the DVD. >> >> >> >> >> This email was sent to christ...@innovationpartners.com by >> tricy...@tricycle.com | >> Update Profile/Email Address | Instant removal with SafeUnsubscribe? | >> Privacy Policy. >> >> The Tricycle Community | 1115 Broadway | Suite 1113 | New York | NY | 10010 >> > -------------- next part -------------- > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > URL: > <http://lists.openspacetech.org/pipermail/oslist-openspacetech.org/attachments > /20121021/cdece2af/attachment-0001.htm> > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 3 > Date: Sun, 21 Oct 2012 18:42:58 -0700 > From: Christine Whitney Sanchez <cwhitneysanc...@gmail.com> > To: Open Space List <oslist@lists.openspacetech.org> > Subject: [OSList] Fwd: Awakening Our Senses - Tricycle Daily Dharma, > October 21, 2012 > Message-ID: <9794cc49-fa78-4cf9-ad58-696798e97...@gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" > > I'm standing with Harold and Karen Davis. Harold tells me that I'm subscribed > to the list with my gmail account. So l > > Sent from my iPhone > > Begin forwarded message: > >> From: Christine Whitney Sanchez <christ...@innovationpartners.com> >> Date: October 21, 2012, 4:07:10 PM MST >> To: Open Space List <oslist@lists.openspacetech.org> >> Subject: Fwd: Awakening Our Senses - Tricycle Daily Dharma, October 21, 2012 >> >> Thought you might enjoy this voice from the larger field. With a special bow >> to you, Phelim, and with appreciation for the amazing way you brought Glass' >> Satyagraha to life. >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> >> Begin forwarded message: >> >>> From: "Tricycle: The Buddhist Review" <tricy...@tricycle.com> >>> Date: October 21, 2012, 12:02:08 AM MST >>> To: christ...@innovationpartners.com >>> Subject: Awakening Our Senses - Tricycle Daily Dharma, October 21, 2012 >>> Reply-To: tricy...@tricycle.com >>> >>> >>> >>> Tricycle Daily Dharma October 21, 2012 >>> Awakening Our Senses >>> >>> The problem with listening, of course, is that we don't. There's too much >>> noise going on in our heads, so we never hear anything. The inner >>> conversation simply never stops. It can be our voice or whatever voices we >>> want to supply, but it's a constant racket. In the same way we don't see, >>> and in the same way we don't feel, we don't touch, we don't taste. >>> >>> - Philip Glass, "Listening to Philip Glass" >>> Read the entire article in the Tricycle Wisdom Collection through October >>> 23rd, 2012 >>> For full access at any time, become a Tricycle Community Supporting or >>> Sustaining Member >>> >>> >>> Today on Tricycle >>> SPONSORED LINKS >>> WEEK 3 OF RIGHT SPEECH ONLINE RETREAT >>> Vishvapani Blomfield continues his retreat with "Communicating with >>> Meaning," an examination of our intentions across all forms of >>> communication?from jokes, to television, to dharma talks?suggesting the >>> primacy of intention over subject matter in regards to Right Speech. >>> Vishvapani encourages us to reflect more fully on our inner values and >>> motivations that inform our speech, enabling us to better abstain from >>> frivolous, meaningless speech, and direct language in a highly charged, >>> refined way that is conducive to genuine communication. This week is >>> exclusively available to sustaining and supporting members of Tricycle. Join >>> the retreat. >>> >>> THIS WEEK: PILGRIMAGE SPECIAL SECTION >>> Pilgrimage has a rich religious background in Buddhist history. It is >>> traditionally linked to devotion and faith, and the spiritual merit >>> conferred by visiting sacred sites. Contemporary pilgrimage, by contrast, >>> usually has more to do with the spirit with which you embark on your journey >>> than with any special power associated with the site itself. Wherever they >>> happen to be going, pilgrims today often take the attitude that by its very >>> nature, travel can reveal essential Buddhist truths. Our special section on >>> pilgrimage explores these themes and more with an essay by perpetual pilgrim >>> Pico Iyer, "The Long Road to Sitting Still," and an interview with the >>> "atheist pilgrim" Stephen Batchelor. Read about pilgrimage. >>> = member supported content >>> Free E-Book! >>> Are you right? How about your speech? It?s that time of year when the mud >>> flies fast and furious, and the blogosphere cries ?wrong? and ?foul? at >>> every turn. Tsk. But how about that juicy piece of gossip floating around >>> the office? Or that Facebook post, tweet, or email flameout you?d rather >>> forget? Tricycle Teachings: Right Speech offers compassionate words of >>> advice for all of us who at times have used our words as weapons, and >>> describes the tools and methods used by skillful speakers to turn thoughts >>> into expressions of wisdom and peace. For Supporting and Sustaining Members >>> only. Join the Tricycle Community and get the free e-book now. >>> Being in the World >>> Being in the World asks whether we have forgotten what it means to be truly >>> human in today's technological age, and proceeds to answer this question by >>> taking a journey around the world to meet a whole host of remarkable >>> individuals, including Manuel Molina, the legendary poet and flamenco >>> master; Leah Chase, affectionately known as the Queen of Creole Cuisine; and >>> Hiroshi Sakaguchi, a master carpenter from Japan. By showing how these >>> modern day masters approach life from within their chosen fields, Ruspoli's >>> film celebrates the ability of human beings to find meaning in the world >>> through the mastery of physical, intellectual, and creative skills. Now >>> available exclusively from Alive Mind Cinema on DVD. Buy the DVD. >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> This email was sent to christ...@innovationpartners.com by >>> tricy...@tricycle.com | >>> Update Profile/Email Address | Instant removal with SafeUnsubscribe? | >>> Privacy Policy. >>> >>> The Tricycle Community | 1115 Broadway | Suite 1113 | New York | NY | 10010 >>> > -------------- next part -------------- > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > URL: > <http://lists.openspacetech.org/pipermail/oslist-openspacetech.org/attachments > /20121021/624eb831/attachment-0001.htm> > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 4 > Date: Sun, 21 Oct 2012 20:47:21 -0700 (PDT) > From: Raffi Aftandelian <raffi_1...@yahoo.com> > To: OSlist <oslist@lists.openspacetech.org> > Subject: [OSList] Critiquing a WOSonOS - [formerly titled 'Peggy plus > OST Linkedin'] > Message-ID: > <1350877641.57167.yahoomail...@web140802.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" > > Thanks for this lively conversation, folks. > > I just want to echo what Michael Herman said- viva simplicity (by the way we > do have a good relatively recent example of this-- and that's the OSonOS By > The Sea events...); and while I could not make London, I could tell from a > distance that a lot of love, care, warmth, and inspiration went into the > preparations and hats off again to my friends and colleagues across the Great > Pond. > > warmly, > raffi > ? > powered by ubuntu 10.4 > -------------- next part -------------- > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > URL: > <http://lists.openspacetech.org/pipermail/oslist-openspacetech.org/attachments > /20121021/402f63a1/attachment-0001.htm> > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 5 > Date: Sun, 21 Oct 2012 23:35:00 -0700 > From: Chris Corrigan <chris.corri...@gmail.com> > To: World wide Open Space Technology email list > <oslist@lists.openspacetech.org> > Subject: Re: [OSList] Peggy plus OST Linkedin Comment > Message-ID: <c00686a1-2bf5-45cc-8842-c827eb4e1...@gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="windows-1252" > > Having been on the hosting team for OSonOS IX, I echo what you write here > Phelim?I sometimes equated my experience of opening space for all of my > colleagues as "telling jokes to comedians." It's not easy, but it's fun and > once you've done it - as Michael Herman said to me - "you're in deep." > > So welcome to being in deep! > > Love right back to you... > > Chris > > PS and asking an acclaimed Broadway director "can you handle criticism?" is a > bit rich, and pretty funny. Like asking the sun, "So you think you're hot > eh?" The answer is an obvious, "well - yes. What's you're point?" :-) > > > > On 2012-10-20, at 1:46 PM, Phelim McDermott wrote: > >> Chris >> >> I agree with you. I'm fine with the critique. Different strokes for different >> folks. >> >> I think the difficulty is what you pinpoint. It's hard to reply and have a >> constructive conversation when it's not directly addressed to myself and the >> hosting team and seems like a veiled passive aggressive attack especially >> considering how it is being disseminated with provocative headlines of the >> "can you handle criticism" kind. >> >> I wonder what the intention behind the communication is? >> >> I also think this raises the issue of what WOSonOS is.... >> >> Is it a celebration and a meeting of a community who share? Not just an open >> space event but the creation of a welcoming gathering space in which people >> work on being a community and honour the history of the event. Or on the >> other end of the scale is it where we come and check out how other people "do >> or facilitate open space" and critique and score it? >> >> I know that WOSonOS is not an open space event for a client And Personally >> I'm in for celebrating diversity of style in event and facilitation. It was >> one of the reasons we were encouraged to invite by the international OS >> community we are a theatre company and our event had small touch of that >> style... if only a touch. >> >> And Paul if you're on the list I would love to engage in a conversation about >> this. >> >> Love >> Phelim >> >> ________________________________ >> >> I generally pick up emails only at the beginning and end of the working day. >> I am currently aiming to respond the following day. If it is urgent please >> call me on 07956 187298. >> _____________________________________ >> >> www.improbable.co.uk >> @openspacer >> >> >> On 20 Oct 2012, at 21:23, Chris Corrigan <chris.corri...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >>> The critique in the article is fine. And the subsequent link Phelim sent >>> along is fine too. Paul's tone is a bit jarring and his argument isn't >>> helped by making a lot of generalized statements. Also he critiques WOSonOS >>> in a way that makes it hard to separate his critique if the event from a >>> critique of the team, even though he later clarifies that he wasn't >>> critiquing the facilitator. It's tricky to make a forceful and powerful >>> critique without it seeming personal. >>> >>> My response to these posts is that Paul is right in substance. In general my >>> take in things is that the Law of Two Feet applies. If you are not learning >>> or contributing find some way or some where that you can. That's what makes >>> things better. Obviously expecting others to change the way the way a >>> process seems too dependant on them is rational madness. >>> >>> Chris >>> -- >>> CHRIS CORRIGAN >>> Harvest Moon Consultants >>> www.chriscorrigan.com >>> >>> >>> Art of Hosting - Participatory Leadership and Social Collaboration, Bowen >>> Island, BC >>> November 12-15 2012 >>> >>> Art of Hosting in Faith Based Communities, Salt Lake City, Utah >>> November 28th - December 1, 2012 >>> >>> On 2012-10-20, at 5:09 AM, "a...@alanhalford.com.au" >>> <a...@alanhalford.com.au> wrote: >>> >>>> Just spent a delicious three days co-learning with Peggy Holman here in >>>> Perth then I read this - >>>> So, what's possible now? >>>> http://rationalmadness.wordpress.com/2012/10/18/the-tragic-re-imprisonment- >>>> of-open-space/ >>>> >>>> take care out there >>>> alan >>>> >>>> >>>> www.alanhalford.com.au >>>> 0421 475 252 >>>> skype: alanhalford >>>> >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> OSList mailing list >>>> To post send emails to OSList@lists.openspacetech.org >>>> To unsubscribe send an email to oslist-le...@lists.openspacetech.org >>>> To subscribe or manage your subscription click below: >>>> http://lists.openspacetech.org/listinfo.cgi/oslist-openspacetech.org >>> _______________________________________________ >>> OSList mailing list >>> To post send emails to OSList@lists.openspacetech.org >>> To unsubscribe send an email to oslist-le...@lists.openspacetech.org >>> To subscribe or manage your subscription click below: >>> http://lists.openspacetech.org/listinfo.cgi/oslist-openspacetech.org >> _______________________________________________ >> OSList mailing list >> To post send emails to OSList@lists.openspacetech.org >> To unsubscribe send an email to oslist-le...@lists.openspacetech.org >> To subscribe or manage your subscription click below: >> http://lists.openspacetech.org/listinfo.cgi/oslist-openspacetech.org > > -------------- next part -------------- > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > URL: > <http://lists.openspacetech.org/pipermail/oslist-openspacetech.org/attachments > /20121021/9507c0e7/attachment-0001.htm> > > ------------------------------ > > _______________________________________________ > OSList mailing list > To post send emails to OSList@lists.openspacetech.org > To unsubscribe send an email to oslist-le...@lists.openspacetech.org > To subscribe or manage your subscription click below: > http://lists.openspacetech.org/listinfo.cgi/oslist-openspacetech.org > > > End of OSList Digest, Vol 20, Issue 23 > **************************************
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