Hi Eleder,
In my experience, the break of the night is an
important separation. Usually, it has the effect
of letting the exchange of the first day sink in
and digest. With as a result that the people are
ready for action on the next day.
So for me it would feel logical to have the three
sessions on the first day and action planning on the second.
You are right that it is very short in a
conflict-ridden environment. I would rather start
earlier on the Friday, if that is an option.
And if passion is high, folks might not want to
hold their energy for very long, so I think an
hour for the opening is the max. They will want
to get to work and dive into it as soon as they
can. My hunch would be to not take 1,5 hour for
the opening, they may not have enough patience.
So I think your original planning is the better one of the two.
Just my 2 cents
Good luck with it!
Koos
At 10:52 23-10-2012, Eleder_BuM wrote:
Some weeks ago I asked some questions regarding
and OS in which we had a big concern: how to
invite a small and conflicted group (you can see
the message below),... After a conversation
beween both parts it seems that this group is willing to come to the OS.
Now I come with another question.
* the subject is quite broad (The
self-managing model of our town: how do we make
it a continually innovating one? . You can see context and subject below).
* we have scheduled Friday (16:00-21:00) &
Saturday (10:00-14:00), shiortish I would say,
for such a wide topic and conflicted context,...
* we told the promotors that we would have
action proposals and first meetings during the
second morning... and I´m thinking now that
might be an error. I´m afraid that we are
giving too short time for just conversations as
they emerge, forcing a bit all the stuff to
have a report with recommended actions
The thing as we had proposed would be sth like:
Friday 15:30 reception; 16: openinng; 17: first
convs; 18: 15; 2nd convs; 19: 30: 3rd convs 20: 45 evening news
Saturday: 10:00 morning anouncements; 10:30
Action proposals 11:00 Action teams meetings
12:30 Action teams short reports 13:00 closing
I would like better now sth more spaced and real
(things tend to delay a bit around here :o), like:
Friday 15:30 reception; 16: openinng; 17:30
first convs; 19:00 2nd convs; 20:30 evening news
Saturday: 10:00 morning anouncements; 10:30 3rd
convs (from first day proposals) 12:00 Action
proposals+meetings+short reporting 13:30 closing
but this kind of Saturday morning would be new
to me, combining stuff from first day proposals
with time for action proposals,...convening the
big dircle at midday 12:00 for new action
proposals,... and I feel a bit unsure that would be working fine...
Any similar experience? Any suggestions?
Love,
@Eleder_BuM
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Context:
A 300 people´s village council. They are proud
for their 40 years experience of
self-management, very common in the ancient
Basque tradition, but very uncommon here, these
days. Every 4 years people that want to get
involved in the administration will appear, and
citizens choose (before the official polls) who
will be the representatives. Then the 7
people more voted form the only list on the
official polls and form the ruling team for the next 4 years.
Then, some 8 self-managed and executive teams
are formed (whoever comes been the right people;
nowadays some 60-80 people taking part regularly),...
Political parties -that rule the neighbour
towns- have no word here. "It´s just we the people who govern ourselves".
Sponsor:
The 7 elected people that now are ruling. 6
amateurs, just one technician paid.
Subject: The self-managing model of our town:
how do we make it a continually innovating one?
---------- Forwarded message ----------
From: Eleder_BuM
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Date: 2012/9/14
Subject: How do we invite key and high conflicted people?
To: World wide Open Space Technology email list
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Hi all !
Last day we had the first meeting with the
sponsors of a 1´5 OS. We expect som 70 participants.
We could define the subject, dates (9th & 10th
Nov). We designed the invitation text and
process. We arranged for the logistics,...
There´s still something important un solved. I´ll try to explain it shortly:
Context:
A 300 people´s village council. They are proud
for their 40 years experience of
self-management, very common in the ancient
Basque tradition, but very uncommon here, these
days. Every 4 years people that want to get
involved in the administration will appear, and
citizens choose (before the official polls) who
will be the representatives. Then the 7
people more voted form the only list on the
official polls and form the ruling team for the next 4 years.
Then, some 8 self-managed and executive teams
are formed (whoever comes been the right people;
nowadays some 60-80 people taking part regularly),...
Political parties -that rule the neighbour
towns- have no word here. "It´s just we the people who govern ourselves".
Sponsor:
The 7 elected people that now are ruling. 6
amateurs, just one technician paid.
Subject: The self-managing model of our town:
how do we make it a continually innovating one?
There´s a group of some 10 people highly opposed
to the managing and ruling model. They have
become a problem for the ruling team. The mayor
said on the meeting: "I would like to sleep well
after taking decissions...". They are part of
main political parties and are said to be
planning to "break the self-management tradition
". Last months they have written and put in the
post-boxes of the neighbours very critical
annonimous writings against the council team,...
Invitation:
The sponsors want to have all the people from
the town rethink, adapt, their model. They want
that everyone feels part of it. They want that
even the minorities can feel represented.
But they say that "the others" just usually say
·"I don´t like this; neither this; neither
this,... " but don´t help to solve anything.
We´ll invite, too, people from outside the
village to enrich the conversations, bring some fresh air and new views,...
Problem:
They think that this "10 opponents" will
probably refuse coming. Everyone of us agreed
that the OS would be richer if they take part.
That conflict could transform in great new process,...
During the meeting we agreed that the person of
the sponsors (council team of 7) in best terms
with the "leader" of the opponents would meet
her and explain that the OS will be a good
opportunity to find solutions to the conflict and grow for everyone,...
Some questions:
* how would you act as facilitators?
* Should we just wait and see?
* If, as expected, they decline the
invitation, should we as "neutral" facilitators
have another try to have then come?
* Should we contact the sponsors before they
meet the opponents and ask to be present during this invitation meeting?
* Could it be better to tell the sponsor
"let us contact the opponents directly and meet
them, as you are part of the conflict and they will probably refuse you"?
* Could we invite them to co-write the
invitation, to take part in the designing process?...
After several OS processes facilitated since
Berlin, this one is probably the one that best
fits the 5 conditions for OS... it has deep
conflict! I´m eager with it, yeah! And I would
really love to have all the system in the room,
and the highly conflicted minority are an important part, I guess...
Any ideas?
Enjoy this great day,
Eleder
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