<grin> only two harrison, is my hope... every host MUST specify (1) an X on the map where they will be, and (2) the TIME that they will be there looking for us. after that, anything is possible AND nothing is necessary!
-- Michael Herman Michael Herman Associates 312-280-7838 (mobile) http://MichaelHerman.com http://OpenSpaceWorld.org On Wed, Oct 24, 2012 at 2:43 PM, Harrison Owen <hho...@verizon.net> wrote: > Thomas – Guidelines? Horrors!!!!**** > > ** ** > > HJ**** > > ** ** > > Harrison Owen**** > > 7808 River Falls Dr.**** > > Potomac, MD 20854**** > > USA**** > > ** ** > > 189 Beaucaire Ave. (summer)**** > > Camden, Maine 20854**** > > ** ** > > Phone 301-365-2093**** > > (summer) 207-763-3261**** > > ** ** > > www.openspaceworld.com <http://www.openspaceworld.com%20> **** > > www.ho-image.com <http://www.ho-image.com%20> (Personal Website)**** > > To subscribe, unsubscribe, change your options, view the archives of > OSLIST Go to: > http://lists.openspacetech.org/listinfo.cgi/oslist-openspacetech.org**** > > ** ** > > *From:* oslist-boun...@lists.openspacetech.org [mailto: > oslist-boun...@lists.openspacetech.org] *On Behalf Of *Thomas Herrmann > *Sent:* Wednesday, October 24, 2012 3:11 PM > *To:* 'World wide Open Space Technology email list' > *Subject:* Re: [OSList] OSONOS Whenever, Wherever, with Whomsoever**** > > ** ** > > Thanks for all sharing in this circle – I come back as a bumblebee bzzzzzz > **** > > ** ** > > I think WOSonOS is a nice breathing in, as a community. An anchoring point > for our community to connect as a whole – yes everyone cannot be present > physically, but to me it’s something special even if I cannot join and > usually there are options to connect via other media. I think the OS-list > is another one of these anchoring points that hold our community together > as a whole.**** > > ** ** > > I think it’s up to the host to decide how to organize although I expect we > stick to “OST by the book”. The rest is up to the passion of the host – and > I love the extras offered. Good to keep in mind though, to give maximum > freedom maximum choice. **** > > ** ** > > I would also enjoy a really simple WOSonOS. I can see the risk of > expectations rising for each WOSonOS but if we keep on reminding ourselves > about – one less thing to do – we should be able to remember that option. > So, this is an important breakout sessions – as they all are.**** > > ** ** > > I guess it’s free to anyone (passion and responsibility) to work on > creating guidelines, if anyone think that is needed. There might be a break > out group preparing a proposal, presenting it to the community – then, I > don’t know if we can make a community decision but we might find out J Or > this conversation might be all that we need.**** > > ** ** > > I don’t see WOSonOS being something hindering OSonOS’ – we just had our 10 > th Annual Scandinavian=1st Nordic, as it now transformed to Nordic > (NOSonOS) when our Finnish neighbors joined taking turns organizing. Every > time we have had an invitation to facilitators from “Scandinavia/Nordic > countries and from elsewhere in the world”. So there we have some more > contributions to the list of OSonOS’ – wow it’s growing!**** > > ** ** > > My million kronor**** > > Thomas Herrmann**** > > ** ** > > *Från:* oslist-boun...@lists.openspacetech.org [ > mailto:oslist-boun...@lists.openspacetech.org<oslist-boun...@lists.openspacetech.org>] > *För *Michael Herman > *Skickat:* den 24 oktober 2012 20:17 > *Till:* World wide Open Space Technology email list > *Ämne:* Re: [OSList] OSONOS Whenever, Wherever, with Whomsoever**** > > ** ** > > yes yes to all of the considerations you've outlined here, lisa. in the > last few years, i've been suggesting to people that facilitating open space > is a practice in making choices... having so little pre-set structure means > we are resting in making choices about how to be all through the event... > and asking participants to do that too.**** > > ** ** > > on the chairs bit, as an example of how obvious things can have unintended > effects, in my first open space, for about 120 people, i set out several > circles of 15 chairs. some groups met with only three people, not > surprisingly. but this was a group that didn't now each other very well. > several of those big breakout circles ended up staying big, and people sat > far apart, keeping their distance. maybe they chose that, maybe not. but > every os since then, i mark breakout spaces with stacks of chairs near the > corners and just three chairs pushed completely together, front corners all > touching, so that anyone who meets there will definitely make the choice > for themselves. it's a small thing, but i like to look out at the shape of > the circles and know that everybody chose that shape.**** > > ** ** > > also, i often advise community groups (no or very small central budget) > like ours that food is not the necessity that it would seem. food options > are critical, of course, if the event is any length at all... but that's > very different and much more work and guessing and expense than simply > choosing a location where any participant can pop out any time and pick > from a variety of food establishments. the first four osonos gatherings, > the only no-driving option was the hotel dining room, but there were many > choices on the menu and the cost was completely determined by each > participant. no money was collected as part of the registration, no menu > choices made, no food budget calculated, no food preferences/restrictions > tabulated, and so on. sometimes there is some reason to bring food in and > stay deep in the work, but more often than not, and always at osonos i > think, there is real value in letting everyone keep their food allowance to > themselves and organize their own meal excursions, in whatever groups or > solos they might choose. **** > > ** ** > > and to harold's earlier point about love and joy, even those can be a > two-edged sword... i might really want to cook you dinner, but if it's food > you'd rather not eat, or at a time or place you'd not choose for yourself, > the gift is not so great. the greatest gift we can give, i think, is space > and choices.**** > > ** ** > > m**** > > ** ** > > > -- > > Michael Herman > Michael Herman Associates > 312-280-7838 (mobile) > > http://MichaelHerman.com > http://OpenSpaceWorld.org > > > **** > > On Wed, Oct 24, 2012 at 12:06 PM, Lisa Heft <lisah...@openingspace.net> > wrote:**** > > I am glad that this session at the WOSonOS also talked about what is lost > if chairs are not used, and what is created if chairs are used.**** > > ** ** > > I for one would not be able to attend a session without chairs.**** > > Which is fine - whoever comes. But the removal of chairs would remove me > from having the option to join that particular discussion.**** > > So Whoever Comes would not be me, and not by my choice.**** > > ** ** > > My hope is that with every single detail we think about adjusting, > dropping or adding - we simply think for a moment (before doing it) why we > are doing / not doing it, who and what it serves, what will be added or > offset by our doing it. Is it because of cost? Then what are the other > creative things we can do about cost. Is it about freedom? Then is it a > projection of our own individual sense of freedom and felt by others the > same way? Is it about providing resources? Then what resources can we > gather or make visible that diverse kinds of participants can choose so > that they, too, are Whoever Comes?**** > > ** ** > > My sadness about where 'one less thing' means less inclusion... turns to > happiness when more thought and creativity creates more opportunity...**** > > ** ** > > I am all for simple, and for not doing 'for' people while facilitating an > Open Space. But as a host of Open Space or any other dialogic process - I > like to practice thinking of the complexity of what it is that I cannot see > but can provide options for... And as a participant in Open Space or any > other dialogic process, I notice when someone like me - or someone not like > me - has been giving the richness of choice, comfort and access.**** > > ** ** > > Loving this conversation...**** > > ** ** > > Lisa**** > > ** ** > > On Oct 24, 2012, at 9:49 AM, Harold Shinsato wrote:**** > > ** ** > > > http://www.devotedanddisgruntled.com/events/world-open-space-open-space/reports/os-circles-opening-evening-news-break-ups-without/ > > The last one was about doing open space without chairs. That's a cool > conversation because removing chairs brings options for lower cost.**** > > ** ** > > > _______________________________________________ > OSList mailing list > To post send emails to OSList@lists.openspacetech.org > To unsubscribe send an email to oslist-le...@lists.openspacetech.org > To subscribe or manage your subscription click below: > http://lists.openspacetech.org/listinfo.cgi/oslist-openspacetech.org**** > > ** ** > > _______________________________________________ > OSList mailing list > To post send emails to OSList@lists.openspacetech.org > To unsubscribe send an email to oslist-le...@lists.openspacetech.org > To subscribe or manage your subscription click below: > http://lists.openspacetech.org/listinfo.cgi/oslist-openspacetech.org > >
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