correction on link www.autognomics.org/skye-blog Skye
On Sun, Dec 16, 2012 at 11:14 AM, Skye Hirst <[email protected]> wrote: > I hesitate to introduce here the work of Autognomics but we have been > studying and looking for living/life's "organizing principles ( "Organizing > principles (scientific laws) are delimiting principles; they exclude the > infinity of the possible to create (and reveal) the actual. They exclude > rather than predict or simulate. They need not involve finite variables, > nor do they need to be deterministic or even quasi-deterministic" Norm Hirst) > Such principles function within living entities" and cannot be observed > empirically alone, (you will never see in the data what creates the data, > NH) groups, organizations do exhibit such principles, of course, and we've > seen such "process" laws as showing up in principles of "organisms" but > to fully get at what and how these organizing principles work, we're still > trying to get down to the most foundational which requires looking at the > "metaphysics" defined here in the words of > > Metaphysics defined: Bohm > Metaphysics is in esssence a set of basic assumptions about the general > order and structure of all existence. Whenever we say “All is X” or “X > is always (or never) true” we are expressing a metaphysical position. > > Autopoiesis offers many of the "pointers" towards these principles - and > there's lots of work needed to pull together many of these pointers (books > like Holman's Engaging Emergence) to get to the metaphysics but I do > believe those pointers experienced in Open Space processes are exhibited > and experienced over and over again by life in many of its infinite forms. > Love to continue with anyone interested in going into this process with > us. The Lincoln Movie has lovely examples of these laws. I've written a > bit about that on my blog www.autognomics.org/skye/blog. > > [email protected] > www.autognomics.org > twitter @autognomics > 207-236-6331 > > > > On Sun, Dec 16, 2012 at 9:21 AM, JL Walker <[email protected]> wrote: > >> Hi Chris and all,**** >> >> ** ** >> >> While I've not studied them sufficiently, I think that Humberto Maturana >> and Francisco Varela have many of the answers that you are looking for >> through its formulation of the process called “autopoiesis”.**** >> >> ** ** >> >> Please see the following links in Wikipedia:**** >> >> ** ** >> >> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Autopoiesis**** >> >> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Humberto_Maturana**** >> >> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Francisco_Varela**** >> >> ** ** >> >> "*Living systems <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Living_systems> are >> cognitive systems, and living as a process is a process of cognition*. >> This statement is valid for all organisms, with or without a nervous >> system."** >> >> * * >> >> I hope is useful.**** >> >> ** ** >> >> Hugs,**** >> >> ** ** >> >> Juan Luis**** >> >> ** ** >> >> ** ** >> >> *De:* [email protected] [mailto: >> [email protected]] *En nombre de *Chris Weaver >> *Enviado el:* sábado, 15 de diciembre de 2012 11:25 >> *Para:* [email protected] >> *Asunto:* [OSList] patterns in nature and open space**** >> >> ** ** >> >> Hi OSList,**** >> >> ** ** >> >> I am interested in ways that OST and other methodologies flow according >> to patterns that are present in living systems in nature (Some would use >> the term biomimicry).**** >> >> ** ** >> >> Do any of you have some specific examples from biology, ecology, and the >> like of natural patterns and systems that are in some way similar to OST? >> **** >> >> ** ** >> >> Thanks!**** >> >> Chris**** >> >> ** ** >> >> ** ** >> >> ** ** >> ------------------------------ >> >> Se certificó que el correo no contiene virus. >> Comprobada por AVG - www.avg.es >> Versión: 2013.0.2805 / Base de datos de virus: 2634/5959 - Fecha de la >> versión: 14/12/2012**** >> >> _______________________________________________ >> OSList mailing list >> To post send emails to [email protected] >> To unsubscribe send an email to [email protected] >> To subscribe or manage your subscription click below: >> http://lists.openspacetech.org/listinfo.cgi/oslist-openspacetech.org >> >> >
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