Harrison - this made me hoot with laughter!

The fundamental pathology showed up. I often think of an Open  Space as a 
Rorschach Test. You remember the funny ink blots that can tell you if you are 
crazy? Same sort of thing, I think.

We have the most perfect Winter's day in London. So all is well with the world

Is anyone familiar with the concept of Pathological Altruism? I have found it 
really fascinating and particularly this book which I really recommend. 
Pathological Altruism Edited by Barbara Oakley, Ariel Knafo, Guruprasad 
Madhavan and David Sloan Wilson

http://www.oup.com/us/catalog/general/subject/Psychology/Social/?view=usa&ci=9780199738571

It reminds me of a conversation I had many years ago with a lovely Tai Chi 
master who suggested to me that: 'no one should never give to anyone, 
something, which if it is (has to be) taken away will leave them floundering.' 

That has always struck me as a profoundly important but hugely difficult 
approach to life and work which is why I really love the practice of OST.

Greetings to all,

Amanda



Commercial Mediator
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On 18 Feb 2013, at 20:28, Harrison Owen wrote:

> Tricia – thanks once again for the honest “after action report.” I think you 
> covered every possible sin of omission, commission, and remission (whatever 
> that is). I think it is also  true that you are being much too hard on 
> yourself. I totally agree with friend Suzanne, (who thought she actually had 
> a disagreement with me J --“Well I might disagree a tad, sd.”). It is more 
> than possible to “do” an Open Space when you are scared to death, if for no 
> other reason than that the process “does” you. After all, I’m the guy who 
> said that anybody with a good head and a good heart can “do” it.  But just 
> because you can do it is no reason to subject yourself to the sorts of pain 
> and anxiety you experienced. Especially when there is a very effective 
> alternative: Careful self preparation.
>  
> Deep breathing, meditation, a good walk, all that sort of stuff. I find this 
> to be true for any Open Space – but particularly those that you KNOW are 
> going to “interesting.” The source of anxiety may be your own inexperience, 
> but there are also those situations where there is no experience because it 
> has never quite been done before. I can’t begin to tell you how many Open 
> Spaces I have done, but I can definitely tell you that when I had the 
> privilege of opening space with 50 Palestinians and Israelis, including 
> operational types (military and security) – I knew I was in uncharted waters 
> for me. I did a lot of Deep Breathing, and truth to tell there were any 
> number of moments when I wasn’t sure we were going to make it. But at every 
> moment, and certainly by the end, there was a real sense of deepest learning 
> and a remarkable feeling of peace and joy.
>  
> Now maybe to come to the heart of the matter: Was your Open Space a failure? 
> I really don’t think so, and I suspect that after the dust settles and you 
> have a chance to reflect on what really happened, you will agree. If I recall 
> correctly, the whole purpose was to enable your groups of folks to take a 
> good hard look at who they were, what they were doing and where to go in the 
> future. I think they did that in spades, although the picture certainly 
> wasn’t a pretty one, and the final results were not what one might have hoped 
> for or expected – but what else is new? Be prepared to be surprised!
>  
> Space was opened. You did that! An invitation was issued. The opportunity was 
> there. What happened was a very accurate portrayal of how things were in all 
> of its dysfunctional splendor. The fundamental pathology showed up. I often 
> think of an Open  Space as a Rorschach Test. You remember the funny ink blots 
> that can tell you if you are crazy? Same sort of thing, I think. There is no 
> content in Open Space – what you see is what you got. In most cases, the 
> participant group is much more competent than its reputation – and so given 
> the opportunity (invitation) they perform very well. They demonstrate who 
> they really are. BUT – there is an old phrase, “You can’t make a silk purse 
> out of a sow’s ear.” I think you had a “sow’s ear.”
>  
> At this point for all participants – a painful question. Do you really want 
> to be that miserable? Is that the way you choose to spend your working hours? 
> No more hiding and pretending that it really isn’t that bad. It’s bad. Where 
> everybody chooses to go from here on out is up to them. Were I in their place 
> (your place as well, I guess) I would be thinking along the lines friend 
> Corrigan suggested: Fire the client – or more accurately, I suppose, Fire the 
> Boss. Never a pleasant thought, but having been there on several occasions, I 
> can honestly say I have no regrets. When the space is closed and I can’t 
> breathe I just have to open some doors and windows and go through them.  But 
> that is probably just me.
>  
> Thanks so much for telling your story, and being patient while I/we told ours.
>  
> Harrison 
> 
> 
> 
>  
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> From: oslist-boun...@lists.openspacetech.org 
> [mailto:oslist-boun...@lists.openspacetech.org] On Behalf Of Tricia Chirumbole
> Sent: Monday, February 18, 2013 1:42 AM
> To: World wide Open Space Technology email list
> Subject: Re: [OSList] Sticky dots Q - San Fran event reflections
>  
> I just noted that there was some interest in a reflection after my first Open 
> Space event in San Fran that I reported as going awry at the beginning. Note: 
> really long description continues! 
>  
> So, the event did not blossom into a proper Open Space and was "taken over" 
> part way through on Day 1 and Day 2 OS agenda was cancelled at 2am-ish by 
> email. No closing. 
>  
> The group struggled with taking on the responsibility and getting in the 
> flow. They were not all entirely slow to get started with posting, but to my 
> surprise, as soon as I invited people to the wall - half of them left! 
> bathroom, cell phones....then many held back and never made it to the wall. 
>  
> The main issues in retrospect were: 
> 1) There was not buy-in/understanding by the principles - one was in and 
> open, the other said he was in, but in the same breath kept trying to drive 
> his own agenda and maintain control. 
> 2) This group's negative reaction to the "differentness" of just the circle 
> configuration and the "crunchiness" of all else was validated by the renegade 
> principle's being the lead heckler and rebel. I love my friend's term of 
> "bamboozle" to describe what he was doing at every step of the 
> process...someone in the group even actually added a "principle" to my one 
> poster, which I didn't even realize until today was really rude - my family 
> made those and I was going to reuse them!
> 3) There was not enough communication and planning prior to the event. (one 
> phone call and a few emails that I didn't get responses to, as well as a 
> planning meeting that the principle (the "in" one) did not make it to  - so 
> we went straight to a loooong lunch on the first day (day prior to OS day 1) 
> w/out ever figuring out the basics, such as what schedule they wanted and 
> what I needed from them. 
> 4) My planning and personal preparation was weak - I tried to do it with rush 
> approval (got the go-ahead 5 days before the meetings started) and while I 
> was sick, then didn't allow enough time the morning of b/c of a morning call 
> that I couldn't get out of - I still tried to prepare myself, but it was 
> challenging given the circumstances and also given my desire to do a good 
> job, and for good things to come AND my preceding desire to do an OS! - yep, 
> I guess you can't have some detachment and I was only prepared for things to 
> not be perfect...and also not understanding how much you really need to give 
> to prep, depending who you are and where you are.....
> 5) I did it for free
> 6) I agreed to facilitating because of my enthusiasm about OS despite the 
> fact that: 
> - I knew there were too many open ends, buy-in/understanding was 
> questionable, there was very little lead time, there was no invitation sent 
> (I tried to get an email sent prior to event, but the renegade wanted to take 
> charge of selecting the final theme, but then didn't do it), poor history of 
> communication and follow thru on part of mgmt......................so, yeah
>  
> More details fwiw: People were struggling to get the basic process and I 
> needed to give a number of reminders for every aspect of the basics - more 
> than I anticipated. Not conclusive why that was. I think they just really 
> weren't giving a lot of attention to the first explanation, were probably 
> distracted by the two conversations that broke out in the circle during my 
> opening, and then further distracted by the more boisterous participants who 
> were starting detailed session discussions and negotiations while in front of 
> the wall before most people could even get started. This was rowdier than I 
> expected. 
>  
> I think I did an ok job of giving direction in a gentle way, made a joke 
> about their rowdiness, and had to get a little sassy with one of the 
> principles once to shut him up, which was well received and effective, but 
> only temporarily. 
>  
> The renegade Principal posted over half of the sessions and then went to 
> bring out the priority project list...yes, I cringed at that, but said it was 
> ok, as long as people still continued to post stuff. He kept trying to talk 
> about combining sessions, which sessions would be valuable for everyone, 
> timing of sessions, etc even for everyone else's posts.....I reminded the 
> conveners of their responsibility, but few were responding to that. 
>  
> People started to move items to lunch and dinner sessions, from my 
> perspective, because they were being viewed as not as important and 
> interfering with other things that other people wanted to do - ok, I didn't 
> interfere and tried to remind them that this was their schedule when they 
> kept asking me what they could and couldn't do (the renegade principle also 
> kept referring back to me and my process and asking me if we had "opened 
> space" and if it was over, etc....). MY concern with the moving of the 
> sessions to meal time was that it seemed to be done under pressure from the 
> forces that be that were advocating a certain way of doing things....that all 
> being said, none of the lunch or dinner sessions happened. Some people 
> mentioned them ex post facto.
>  
> These unrealized sessions were unfortunately a trend throughout the day. We 
> actually ended up with not all sessions filled even for day 1 and then a 
> number of people just never convened their sessions. I am not sure if I 
> interfered too much or not enough, but I rallied to encourage people to go to 
> the other breakout room to do a posted session...although this was posted by 
> an employee, it ended up being led by the renegade principle and yes, ended 
> when food arrived in the other room (I asked them about a different food 
> process and the "in" principle responded at last minute that he could have 
> someone send me the menu for morning food, but that afternoon food was 
> already coming - once again, too little, too late - I figured that was not 
> that big a deal, but it did end up having an impact, I think)
>  
> After that, everyone was hanging around in the main room, some asking if 
> there were other sessions or what they should do, others eating, others half 
> participating in the one ongoing main room session. There was one pending, 
> and unfortunately it belonged to the renegade principle. I encouraged him to 
> convene, but he felt it was one that would be good for everyone.....so, 
> that's what we did. We waited for the main room activity to finish up, we all 
> dutifully sat down, and we had a bitch fest/work interest inventory during 
> our "what makes project success?" session. We were all there, it went too 
> long, people had to start to leave, I did not do a close - thought about 
> suggesting it, but at that point felt pretty demoralized - they had been 
> making fun of the process and renegade dude had been subverting it all day. 
> They can close themselves....I was considering it.....I also really wished we 
> had had the opportunity to do the Appreciative INquiry workshop on Satisfying 
> and Successful Projects that I had put together for them, also last minute at 
> their request, and yes, embarrassingly, for free - The "in" principle had 
> requested this, seemed really excited by it, but then, despite my detailed 
> agenda suggestions, he chose not to work it in on the first prelim night in 
> preference to longer individual intros (though most of the group knows one 
> another) and a "primer" on Open Space, which as I mentioned before I tried to 
> tell them was not necessary and would be delivered the next day...I tried to 
> keep it very short, but they pushed, and then renegade took control - he 
> asked my opinion, but he didn't really want it. 
>  
>  
> On Mon, Feb 18, 2013 at 12:44 AM, Tricia Chirumbole 
> <tri...@investorswithoutborders.net> wrote:
> Thanks so much to Harrison, Lisa, and all on the list for your feedback and 
> support - it all definitely helped me to learn and grow more in the 
> situation, as well as maintain/regain a broader, more detached perspective. 
> ...and, yes, it helped me battered ego :)
>  
> As Harrison wrote, "You can’t open space if your space ain’t open." I do hope 
> I won't have to relearn that lesson, but I at least have a better sense of 
> what conditions I need in order to agree to participate in opening a space - 
> internal and external. 
>  
> 
> On Tue, Feb 12, 2013 at 4:50 PM, Harrison Owen <hho...@verizon.net> wrote:
> Tricia – You just learned THE most valuable lesson. Lesson #1
>  
> You can’t open space if your space ain’t open. Chris said it more elegantly, 
> but that is the gist. And from what you said -- seems like your space was in 
> lockdown. 5 days with little sleep, racing about, worrying, “fixing things”… 
> No space for nothing. Painful for sure, but you will never have to learn it 
> again. I am positive. And THANK YOU SO MUCH for sharing!
>  
> The only pre-work that is really essential is your own. Or put a little 
> differently, if you don’t do your own preparation nothing else really matters 
> that much. At least as far as you are concerned. People kid me about not 
> doing very much, which is absolutely true. But what they don’t see is what I 
> do do before they ever see me. Everybody will have their own way, but before 
> every Open Space, particularly the “dicey” ones, my day starts early. 
> Beginning with a good meditation, followed by a walk and then on to the venue 
> at least an hour and a half (better two) before “Show Time.” I sit in the 
> center, before anybody is there, and if people do wander in, I invite them to 
> join me in the silence. No talking, no planning, no fixing. Just the space 
> and silence. After a bit, I get up to complete the site preparation, if that 
> is needed. No hurrys – sort a walking meditation. I particularly enjoy doing 
> the Post-its especially for a big gathering. It is really “zenish,” if that 
> communicates. A half hour before “Start” I stop everything. Maybe I look at 
> my watch, but I don’t recall doing so…just seems to happen that way. At that 
> point, I leave the venue, go outside if possible – and return at the 
> appointed hour. When I stand at the edge of the circle to invite the 
> festivities to begin, I am about as clear and focused as I can be. It feels 
> wonderful. Something about doing nothing and everything gets done.
>  
> Harrison
>  
> Harrison Owen
> 7808 River Falls Dr.
> Potomac, MD 20854
> USA
>  
> 189 Beaucaire Ave. (summer)
> Camden, Maine 04843
>  
> Phone 301-365-2093
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> From: oslist-boun...@lists.openspacetech.org 
> [mailto:oslist-boun...@lists.openspacetech.org] On Behalf Of Tricia Chirumbole
> Sent: Tuesday, February 12, 2013 2:47 PM
> To: World wide Open Space Technology email list
> Subject: Re: [OSList] Sticky dots Q
>  
> shame on me! I messed up the flow, buy-in, and positive energy, by messing up 
> one of the simplest parts....the sticky notes time and session areas. Not 
> totally my fault, but each time I tried to remedy on the fly, made another 
> mistake!!
>  
> 1) I was a little behind in some final preps bc of early call and have been 
> sick and have barely slept for past 5 days and then people came early..fine, 
> I'll put them to work...also, facilities had not removed the table and 
> equipment, so actually would not necessarily have been behind.
> - people were a little hard to get to help and a bit distracting and spent a 
> lot of the time standing around, watching me, and making sarcastic jokes 
> about the circle, the principles, the notes, etc....very distracting...I was 
> trying to manage people, go fast, ignore people, and get other work done...so 
> my mind was distraced and I messed up some of the time slots which messed 
> everything up...
>  
> PLUS, I got resistance in the team picking out breakout rooms in advance and 
> so filled out day 1 notes w/ just the area indicators: 1, 2, 3...finally got 
> them to do it, but it confiused everything.....
>  
> just whining....will try to salvage! Now I see already however that despite 
> all of the ideas I know everyone has, we have only 2 groups for the morning 
> and people def sitting around and not being engaged, but I don't want to mess 
> much more and start adding to many new topics myself (Iam unfortunately an 
> independent contracter "worker", so I am already violating by participating..)
>  
> On Tue, Feb 12, 2013 at 11:08 AM, Chris Corrigan <chris.corri...@gmail.com> 
> wrote:
> I just want to add, that although I have dispensed with sticky dots years ago 
> as well, I HAVE used them since where they made sense.  It's impossible to 
> say what tools are important and what should be jettisoned, but context 
> matters.  If your senior people would like the group to prioritize the action 
> plans that were raised, you can create a process to do that that respects the 
> work that has been done and works within the constraints.  There are all 
> kinds of ways of doing that.
> 
> Open Space is an empty frame.  We know what it does and how it works.  But it 
> does not stand alone.  You are using it in a context to accelerate something 
> in an organization and a community.  I have found that it isn't wise just to 
> come in and do an open space the way I want to do it without being sensitive 
> to the need behind the call or the context in which you are working.
> 
> For example a learning Open Space is very different from a product creation 
> Open Space which differs from a strategic planning Open Space which differs 
> from an engagement Open Space. The basic process works the same but the 
> invitation and harvest are very different and the pre-work with the 
> leadership team helps to set the ground for the most successful 
> implementation of ideas.
> 
> For me if that means we use sticky dots, because that's the best thing to do, 
> we use sticky dots.
> 
> Chris
> 
> On 2013-02-12, at 1:46 AM, Koos de Heer wrote:
> 
> > Hi Tricia,
> >
> > I stopped using sticky dot voting in Open Space sessions years ago.
> >
> > In the beginning, the agenda process is perfect and does not need any
> > voting.
> >
> > During the Open Space, if a topic needs more time, people will decide they
> > are not ready and continue to do what needs to be done.
> >
> > In the end, when it comes to action planning, I find it much more elegant to
> > reopen the space for action planning topics.
> >
> > So trust the process, trust the people and trust yourself. Take a deep
> > breath and be present and it will roll (and rock). :-)
> >
> > Koos
> >
> > -----Oorspronkelijk bericht-----
> > Van: oslist-boun...@lists.openspacetech.org
> > [mailto:oslist-boun...@lists.openspacetech.org] Namens Jeff Aitken
> > Verzonden: dinsdag 12 februari 2013 08:52
> > Aan: World wide Open Space Technology email list
> > Onderwerp: Re: [OSList] Sticky dots Q
> >
> > reminds me that the difference between a brainstorm and an open space agenda
> > creation is that the latter is based on passion and responsibility.
> >
> > some items on the brainstorm list may not make it to the open space agenda
> > wall if the person doesn't actually feel very passionate or responsible
> > about it after all.
> >
> > or it may make it to the wall, but then nobody comes to the session, and the
> > convenor writes a short report to handle it and moves to another topic.
> >
> > jeff
> >
> > On 2/11/13, Jeff Aitken <r.jeff.ait...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >> I would allow the open space process to do the work. I don't see a
> >> reason to do anything else. I could be misunderstanding of course.
> >>
> >> if you are using a 'standard' open space agenda creation process,
> >> inviting people to put a topic on a sheet of paper and post it on a
> >> wall with time and place, then i'd allow the wall to be filled with
> >> topics, and then explain the process of moving topics around based on
> >> the wishes of the convenors. and let them move things around.
> >>
> >> let the law of mobility take care of the rest. and then reflect at the
> >> end of the day, and they might add and delete and move topics for the
> >> second day.
> >>
> >> jeff
> >>
> >>
> >> On 2/11/13, Tricia Chirumbole <tri...@investorswithoutborders.net> wrote:
> >>> ok, so I just asked a question re: the need for prioritization of
> >>> issues and an overwhelmingly large pool of issues in my previous post.
> >>>
> >>> I guess part of the answer is sticky dot voting. Cool. I will have to
> >>> improvise asking people to keep track of their dots using markers
> >>> since I will have no time to get dots, but that should be ok in a
> >>> small gorup of 13...not ideal - other thoughts on this are welcome.
> >>>
> >>> my questions are - is it ok to do prioritization at outset of day 1?
> >>> And, if so, would it be better to first generate a marketplace w/o
> >>> times selected and prioritize them, then have initiators select
> >>> time/place? or vice versa - neither sound ideal to me.
> >>>
> >>> thanks so much!!
> >>>
> >>> --
> >>> Tricia Chirumbole
> >>> US: +1-571-232-0942
> >>> Skype: tricia.chirumbole
> >>>
> >>
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