yes! and simple does not mean easy. ~lpt On Sun, Mar 24, 2013 at 3:50 PM, paul levy <p...@cats3000.net> wrote:
Saying it is only a manner of speaking is only a manner of speaking. > > If your time organism is big enough it includes your now. > > There's more to this than meets the "I"! > > I'm sure there is more eloquence than just "big". I think that perhaps > "big" brought us to the brink of world economic collapse. > > Sometimes simplicity is perfect. Sometimes it misses the very big you hint > at. Go on,think bigger than just "big". > > On 24 March 2013 22:28, Harrison Owen <hho...@verizon.net> wrote: > > It is only a manner of speaking. If your NOW is big enough it includes >> what we (used to) call Past and Future. So how is that for esoterica?**** >> >> ** ** >> >> ho**** >> >> ** ** >> >> Harrison Owen**** >> >> 7808 River Falls Dr.**** >> >> Potomac, MD 20854**** >> >> USA**** >> >> ** ** >> >> 189 Beaucaire Ave. (summer)**** >> >> Camden, Maine 04843**** >> >> ** ** >> >> Phone 301-365-2093**** >> >> (summer) 207-763-3261**** >> >> ** ** >> >> www.openspaceworld.com <http://www.openspaceworld.com%20> **** >> >> www.ho-image.com <http://www.ho-image.com%20> (Personal Website)**** >> >> To subscribe, unsubscribe, change your options, view the archives of >> OSLIST Go to: >> http://lists.openspacetech.org/listinfo.cgi/oslist-openspacetech.org**** >> >> ** ** >> >> *From:* oslist-boun...@lists.openspacetech.org [mailto: >> oslist-boun...@lists.openspacetech.org] *On Behalf Of *paul levy >> *Sent:* Sunday, March 24, 2013 5:55 PM >> >> *To:* World wide Open Space Technology email list >> *Subject:* Re: [OSList] Follow-Up and Flow in Open Space**** >> >> ** ** >> >> Harrison**** >> >> ** ** >> >> Yes, and more...**** >> >> ** ** >> >> The "now" becomes enormous because it forms part of the time organism - a >> living organism because past, present and future all live vibrantly within >> it. This is no mere theory. Now is where we are present, but before and >> beyond are where we are also alive.**** >> >> ** ** >> >> But no. The past isn't over. It is both before and before. The past lies >> up ahead. The past is full of seeds but also it contains keys. The past is >> a living picture playing in and out of the now. As does the future. History >> is the high-story.**** >> >> ** ** >> >> Practically (and this is where a bias towards one dimension limits the >> opening of space)...**** >> >> ** ** >> >> What do we wish had happened?**** >> >> What would have happened if ... ?**** >> >> What happened ?**** >> >> ** ** >> >> These are not questions for a past that is over and done with. These are >> questions for the future "before us".**** >> >> ** ** >> >> Whatever happened is not the only thing that could have. Whatever >> happened is one of my things that could happen.**** >> >> ** ** >> >> Dive into that - if only for the game of it!**** >> >> ** ** >> >> We can live many lives and still not get close to the real vistas of >> space and time that wait to be opened. Potential lives in the whole time >> organism, not only the now. There's something special about now, but its >> not the whole story!**** >> >> ** ** >> >> Go on, imagine you might have missed a trick...!**** >> >> ** ** >> >> Paul >> >> On Sunday, 24 March 2013, Harrison Owen wrote:**** >> >> Paul – “And it is why I believe that when we open space, we open space >> not only for the future but for our whole "time organism".” I like it. If >> only because I wrote a book, “Expanding Our Now.” The idea is simple, maybe >> simple minded. But it goes like this: The past is over, the future hasn’t >> happened yet. What we got is NOW. And how big can we make that? I don’t >> know, but it is a lot bigger than most of us think – which is usually >> measured in nanoseconds. A very small NOW. – But when we Open Space, my >> experience is that NOW becomes enormous. Well past chronometric >> measurement. Or something.**** >> >> **** >> >> ho**** >> >> **** >> >> Harrison Owen**** >> >> 7808 River Falls Dr.**** >> >> Potomac, MD 20854**** >> >> USA**** >> >> **** >> >> 189 Beaucaire Ave. (summer)**** >> >> Camden, Maine 04843**** >> >> **** >> >> Phone 301-365-2093**** >> >> (summer) 207-763-3261**** >> >> **** >> >> www.openspaceworld.com <http://www.openspaceworld.com%20> **** >> >> www.ho-image.com <http://www.ho-image.com%20> (Personal Website)**** >> >> To subscribe, unsubscribe, change your options, view the archives of >> OSLIST Go to: >> http://lists.openspacetech.org/listinfo.cgi/oslist-openspacetech.org**** >> >> **** >> >> *From:* oslist-boun...@lists.openspacetech.org [mailto: >> oslist-boun...@lists.openspacetech.org] *On Behalf Of *paul levy >> *Sent:* Sunday, March 24, 2013 4:08 PM >> *To:* World wide Open Space Technology email list >> *Subject:* Re: [OSList] Follow-Up and Flow in Open Space**** >> >> **** >> >> Perfectly described, Koos!**** >> >> **** >> >> And it is why I believe that when we open space, we open space not only >> for the future but for our whole "time organism". **** >> >> **** >> >> It is also why, if there must be "action planning" is need not only come >> at the end!**** >> >> **** >> >> Time is linear, circular and many other things as well. **** >> >> **** >> >> Warm rushes**** >> >> **** >> >> Paul >> >> On Sunday, 24 March 2013, Koos de Heer wrote:**** >> >> Paul,**** >> >> **** >> >> I once heard a story from someone who had been to Greece, interviewing >> people about the political and economic situation there. He reports that >> some people would say: “We can’t predict the future – after all, you have >> no idea of the things that are still hidden behind your back.” The >> metaphor of the way time flows there is the opposite of ours. In Western >> Europe, we picture ourselves as looking to the future and having the past >> behind our backs. Apparently in Greece, the people experience the timeline >> so that the future is coming from behind and the past is disappearing in >> front of them. So they are looking at the past and not seeing the future. >> Which makes sense; we think we look at the future, but what are we looking >> at? Only images, because we don’t know what it will be. Which also leads to >> the question whether our images from the past are correct, but that is >> another story.**** >> >> **** >> >> This leads me to wondering if there might be cultures where time is >> viewed as circular, which would make even more sense to me.**** >> >> **** >> >> Koos**** >> >> **** >> >> *Van:* oslist-boun...@lists.openspacetech.org [ >> mailto:oslist-boun...@lists.openspacetech.org<oslist-boun...@lists.openspacetech.org>] >> *Namens *paul levy >> *Verzonden:* zondag 24 maart 2013 19:37 >> *Aan:* World wide Open Space Technology email list >> *Onderwerp:* Re: [OSList] Follow-Up and Flow in Open Space**** >> >> **** >> >> David**** >> >> **** >> >> There's a depth and warm texture to your model.**** >> >> **** >> >> I would offer this:**** >> >> **** >> >> You define vision this: >> "what does it look like when it is done"**** >> >> **** >> >> I believe that is only part of vision. **** >> >> **** >> >> Vision is what does the temporal picture look like: the picture of past, >> present AND future, all playing into each other. As I said earlier - what >> went before (past) is also before us (future, in front).**** >> >> **** >> >> _______________________________________________ >> OSList mailing list >> To post send emails to OSList@lists.openspacetech.org >> To unsubscribe send an email to oslist-le...@lists.openspacetech.org >> To subscribe or manage your subscription click below: >> http://lists.openspacetech.org/listinfo.cgi/oslist-openspacetech.org >> >> > > _______________________________________________ > OSList mailing list > To post send emails to OSList@lists.openspacetech.org > To unsubscribe send an email to oslist-le...@lists.openspacetech.org > To subscribe or manage your subscription click below: > http://lists.openspacetech.org/listinfo.cgi/oslist-openspacetech.org > >
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