Michael: I appreciate a lot your sharing...I had an experience in Mexico were we prepare an OS very fast and it was so ggod because that organisation was really in a critical moment, the OS was like a big healing moment ,that is the way I saw it. It was so good to see the change of the faces of this employees recovering a sense of hope and dignity ... You talk about the weather in Berlin ...and we have snow here again in Montreal! Adriana
2013/4/12 Michael M Pannwitz <mmpannw...@gmail.com> > Dear Paul, I dont think I could "shortchange" participants. What I do > think, however, is that there are "many ways of shortchanging os and the > forces of selforganisation". > Its probably not a good idea for me to espouse such statements and rather > stick to my experience with 171 os-events of lengths from 4 hours to a full > 2,5 days and processes with organisations using os from 3 to 10 years and > all sizes (9 to 2108). > Seems there is very little research on OST that would give us a clue on > what length, size, etc. are especially adequate or even optimal. As often > in life, it "depends". > I have had sponsors approach me for doing a "little open space" within a > larger multi-day conference or at the beginning or at the end. When talking > to them the "little" expanded... even to the extent that a two-hour request > turned into a three-day event, in the year after they had the idea of doing > a "little" open space... they took my suggestion and had the participants > use the two hours to sit comfortable, drink a glass of wine and exchange on > the questions they wanted experts to answer the next day. > In my practice, setting up an os-event, takes always the same time no > matter how many foldk attend (it took 30 minutes with 2108 to post 232 > issues and start meeting) or how long the os is. If you mean by "setting > up" the arrangement of the large meeting space, the breakout sessions, the > buffet, the newsroom etc., it usually takes several hours to a full day... > but when the presssure is on, as it was in Sevilla for 300 folks, the os > team, assisted by 20 hotel employess took down a conference style setting > and set up an os-setting in 1,5 hours, probably a world record. Everything > pertaining to the os-setting had been carefully prepared in separate rooms > the night before (agenda wall, posters, title....) > > From where I stand, I see that space is always open (sometimes only a tiny > bit) and I certainly dont open it as facilitator. What I do, after the > sponsor has "opened the event", I introduce to the OST process knowing that > within that process, time and space do expand for selforganisation to do > its stuff. By selforganisation I dont mean that people (or I) self-organise > my day or work or life of future, I rather consider "the force of > selforganisation" to be one of the basic forces in the universe active > since time began... in "nature", societies, organisations, networks, > cities, communities, everywhere. Its not something we can have more of or > less of, its just there and active the same way as lets say earth magnetism > but in a larger, all encompassing way. > > Open Space Technology for social systems can not be too short or too long, > it can be adequate for the purpose of the task of the social system... what > that means in practice is the result of a planning phase several weeks or > even a year before the event. I have also run into situations where the > planning phase started four hours before the OST event, or took place in > the afternoon of the day before the event... when things really burn, stuff > gets done fast and usually quite well. > > I see it as one of the challenges for facilitators to NOT accept two > hours, or 4, or a full day but to get into an exchange with the sponsor on > what would be adequate, that is the optimal time for what he is planning to > to. And if it turns out to be more than the two hours available, point out > the consequences to the sponsor or the planning group. They could schedule > more time or rethink what they want to achieve with the possible result > that OST is not what fits them. > > Wishing you and everybody else a great weekend from Berlin, where > Spring, completely uncontrolled, is breaking out all over... the farmers > say two weeks late, it will make the prize for asparagus and strawberries > skyrocket and be grand for this years apple harvest... > > mmp > > On 12.04.2013 19:15, paul levy wrote: > >> Whilst I agree and resonate with the sentiment of "if only you had >> longer than two hours", I don't agree that shorter open spaces "short >> change" participants. And I am someone whose most wonderful OS >> experience was at an Open Space that ran for four days! >> >> So, here's an alternative perspective - one that distinguishes Open >> Space Technology from Opening Space. >> >> Opening Space can take one second and be vital and wonderful. When our >> eyes meet a stranger and we smile - that can be opening space, >> especially if we self-organise, taking or giving ourselves permission to >> break with the "rule" of never smiling at strangers or the structure of >> "always walking on by. >> >> Open Space Technology takes a bit of time to set up, and therefore >> longer is often suggested as better (though even Open Space Technology >> can bet set up in a few minutes, rather than the 45 mins it is often >> strung out to). Also quite a few open space fans see open space is so >> good for the world, that any minutes not doing are a kind of terrible >> shame. That distaste for structure is plain silly and a bit vain. >> >> Opening Space lies beyond time, though it manifests for us on timelines >> and in space. We can open space during five minutes for a life-changing >> conversation. We can open space for two hours, or two days, or two >> decades. >> >> Often less can be so much more - and this applies to number of minutes >> too. >> >> Opening Space needs only permission to self-organise and the principles >> of OST are great to enable that self-organisation. >> >> So, for me, two hours is what it is, and it is potentially as powerful >> as a lifetime. Two hours is not "not longer" - it is 120 gloriously >> potential minutes. >> >> Open Space for it and trust the community to make use of it. Out of it >> might come some restlessness to open more space. Or not. >> >> I believe it is a fallacy to equate open space as being always better if >> longer. I'm not sure we have really begun to see how OST can embrace an >> hour, though I've heard some inspiring stories. Moments of wow happen in >> moments, and not always because they took place in hours of not wow. >> They emerge. And they can emerge across a crowded room between two >> strangers in a second, and change the whole universe, just as much as >> they can emerge at an open space conference over 8 hours. >> >> You have two hours and that is what you have! Open Space for two hours >> and trust to what opening space can do with anything, anywhere, anytime. >> >> warm wishes >> >> Paul >> >> On 12 Apr 2013 17:02, "Jeff Aitken" <r.jeff.ait...@gmail.com >> <mailto:r.jeff.aitken@gmail.**com <r.jeff.ait...@gmail.com>>> wrote: >> >> Hi Chris, >> >> Last year at the height of the Occupy gatherings, we brought 130 >> people together for a two hour evening. I did a 30 minute opening, we >> had two 30 minute sessions for 24 topics, and used the final 30 >> minutes for report-backs from the convenors of the topics, focused on >> what ideas or plans they are taking 'out of the room'. It was a very >> high energy gathering. Of course we wish we devoted a day or more. >> >> Because of the size of the church hall and the fact that some >> breakouts were in another building, I felt ok about designing for two >> sessions instead of trying three. For example I noticed elders taking >> their time moving from place to place. However, if there were well >> over 30 topics I can see that would have been a spatial challenge to >> work with. >> >> Jeff >> >> On 4/12/13, chris grady <ch...@chrisgrady.org >> <mailto:ch...@chrisgrady.org>> wrote: >> > Dear Chris >> > >> > I recently did 200 doctors and patients in 3 hrs, and I'm about >> to do a >> > follow up with 300 in the same time !! >> > We offered stenographers roaving around the room to help with >> notetaking, >> > and whilst we had the Newsroom for effect we didn't push >> participants to >> > have to do their own writing up. The challenge was to move them >> from the >> > circle to get started. I underplayed the time for merging >> sessions and >> > marketplace so we kept it moving. The individual agenda sessions >> were set >> > at 2 timeslots of 45 minutes each with no break. This was not >> ideal, and I >> > don't know how it will work with an extra 100 people in the room. >> Time >> > will tell. >> > >> > I am hoping the medics will like Open Space so much that they >> will realise >> > allowing it to breathe more will help >> > I didn't stint on the time for the opening circle - because I >> needed to >> > calm them after an hour of key note speeches which the medics >> insisted was >> > also needed. They are reducing that front-end speaching this >> time round >> > having seen the effect of Open Space. >> > >> > Good luck >> > Cheers >> > >> > Chris >> > >> > Chris Grady >> > Chris Grady.Org >> > >> > Gothic House, High Road, Great Finborough, Suffolk IP14 3AQ >> > Tel: +44 1449 771007 <tel:%2B44%201449%20771007>, Mob: +44 7713 >> 643971 <tel:%2B44%207713%20643971> >> > ch...@chrisgrady.org <mailto:ch...@chrisgrady.org> >> > >> > www.chrisgrady.org <http://www.chrisgrady.org> >> > Associates: Kath Burlinson >> <http://www.kathburlinson.co.**uk/<http://www.kathburlinson.co.uk/>>, >> Tom >> > Atkins<http://www.tomatkins.**co.uk/ <http://www.tomatkins.co.uk/> >> > >> > , Rajni Shah <http://www.rajnishah.com/> and Kate Reed (New York) >> > *CGO - Making Connections* >> > >> > *Current Projects/Contracts*: >> > Course Leader – MA Arts Management Anglia Ruskin University >> > International Licensing Consultant – Stage Entertainment NL >> > Industry Liaison (shared post) – Mountview Academy of Theatre >> > Associate - Wonderbird Ltd / Consultancy >> > In development - StoryMusic2020 >> > >> > For more information on CGO Surgeries for theatremakers and >> emerging >> > artists >> > And for work using Open Space Technology go to www.chrisgrady.org >> <http://www.chrisgrady.org> >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > On Fri, Apr 12, 2013 at 9:23 AM, Chris Altmikus @ iDeA-Link < >> > chris.altmi...@idea-link.eu >> <mailto:chris.altmikus@idea-**link.eu<chris.altmi...@idea-link.eu> >> >> >> wrote: >> > >> >> Hello dear Open Space friends, >> >> >> >> I am preparing for a very short OS Session, 120 minutes ... with >> some >> >> 100+ >> >> participants, french- and/or german-speaking. >> >> >> >> Any experience and guidance you may be willing to share on how >> to open & >> >> structure such a ... short ... space ? How crisp can I make the >> opening, >> >> which I will be doing in both German & French... What is the >> additional >> >> thing I can drop or leave doing ... ? >> >> >> >> Gratefully yours + Chris >> >> >> >> *Chris Altmikus* >> >> >> >> *Human Systems @ iDeA-Link***** >> >> >> >> *La Bovarde 37***** >> >> >> >> *1091 Grandvaux***** >> >> >> >> *Suisse***** >> >> >> >> ** ** >> >> >> >> *+41 33 533 31 34 <tel:%2B41%2033%20533%2031%**2034>***** >> >> >> >> *+41 78 935 31 34 <tel:%2B41%2078%20935%2031%**2034>***** >> >> >> >> *chris.altmi...@idea-link.eu* <chris.altmi...@idea-link.eu> >> >> >> >> >> >> ______________________________**_________________ >> >> OSList mailing list >> >> To post send emails to OSList@lists.openspacetech.org >> <mailto:OSList@lists.**openspacetech.org<OSList@lists.openspacetech.org> >> > >> >> To unsubscribe send an email to >> >> OSList-leave@lists.**openspacetech.org<oslist-le...@lists.openspacetech.org> >> >> <mailto:OSList-leave@lists.**openspacetech.org<oslist-le...@lists.openspacetech.org> >> > >> >> To subscribe or manage your subscription click below: >> >> http://lists.openspacetech.**org/listinfo.cgi/oslist-** >> openspacetech.org<http://lists.openspacetech.org/listinfo.cgi/oslist-openspacetech.org> >> >> >> >> >> > >> ______________________________**_________________ >> OSList mailing list >> To post send emails to OSList@lists.openspacetech.org >> <mailto:OSList@lists.**openspacetech.org<OSList@lists.openspacetech.org> >> > >> To unsubscribe send an email to OSList-leave@lists.** >> openspacetech.org <oslist-le...@lists.openspacetech.org> >> >> <mailto:OSList-leave@lists.**openspacetech.org<oslist-le...@lists.openspacetech.org> >> > >> To subscribe or manage your subscription click below: >> http://lists.openspacetech.**org/listinfo.cgi/oslist-** >> openspacetech.org<http://lists.openspacetech.org/listinfo.cgi/oslist-openspacetech.org> >> >> >> >> ______________________________**_________________ >> OSList mailing list >> To post send emails to OSList@lists.openspacetech.org >> To unsubscribe send an email to >> OSList-leave@lists.**openspacetech.org<oslist-le...@lists.openspacetech.org> >> To subscribe or manage your subscription click below: >> http://lists.openspacetech.**org/listinfo.cgi/oslist-**openspacetech.org<http://lists.openspacetech.org/listinfo.cgi/oslist-openspacetech.org> >> >> > -- > Michael M Pannwitz > Draisweg 1, 12209 Berlin, Germany > ++49 - 30-772 8000 > > > > Check out the Open Space World Map presently showing 409 resident Open > Space Workers in 72 countries working in a total of 143 countries > worldwide: www.openspaceworldmap.org > ______________________________**_________________ > OSList mailing list > To post send emails to OSList@lists.openspacetech.org > To unsubscribe send an email to > OSList-leave@lists.**openspacetech.org<oslist-le...@lists.openspacetech.org> > To subscribe or manage your subscription click below: > http://lists.openspacetech.**org/listinfo.cgi/oslist-**openspacetech.org<http://lists.openspacetech.org/listinfo.cgi/oslist-openspacetech.org> > -- Adriana Díaz-Berrio Ph.D. CRHA (514) 739 2268 www.diazberrio.com
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