MMP--

Why do you say unique? All of them are in some way unique, irreplaceable of course, but I'm not sure what you see as unusual here?

One thing I see as unusual is that this was not a group seeking for a way forward for the group, but 21 ways forward for 21 individuals.

Help me see why you think the bankers and business leaders and faculty should have joined in, Michael?

To me the purpose of the event was to help them see they have the resources to do this thing: create a business. They have "sisters" they can call on for help and street smarts. Dropping the "experts" in merely continues their dependency on someone else. If the "experts" were in the sessions, then we could do 10 minute breakouts, or even a panel presentation in question and answer format, where question asked is followed by "the" one right answer.

Glad I was able to contribute to your night, Michael!

                                :- Doug.







On 04/27/2013 07:02 PM, Michael M Pannwitz wrote:
Dear Doug,
I love your report.
Actually its reports like yours that make my day, or night.
And bringing good food seems a perfect sign of great management,
supportive community, shared leadership and, of course, Vision. The
eagle, bear, mouse and deer all in place.
While they had a productive time and observed "when its over, its over",
I suspect that things would even get better if "faculty and advisors"
would not stay out but get in... and some more of the "community people
bankers and business leaders" joined (were invited?).
I have experienced groups that seemed not to need the time available in
the groups but spent the time not in the groups in amazing ways (started
a new venture)... afterwards I was glad I did not intervene and thinking
on this I decided not to interpret all this stuff, much too complex and
maybe none of my business, and instead let selforganisation do its
stuff... and stick to the announced schedule.
I wonder why you say its "another one for the books".
To me it appears to be unprecedented, unique, probably not exactly
reproducable, a wonder.
Lets have more of them.
Greetings from Berlin
mmp

On 27.04.2013 23:59, doug wrote:
Friends--

Report on a half-day OST in Northern Indiana, held today:

A local women's college has a program to help low-income women become
entrepreneurs. It runs 6 weeks and has as faculty many community people,
bankers and business leaders. I convinced them from the start that OST
should be an integral part of the curriculum. This spring was the 4th
class. This spring we had two classes running concurrently, one meets in
the evening, one during the day. Today was the first time both classes
had met each other.

We gathered at 8:30, scheduled the opening for 9:00 and actually started
at about 9:10. Village marketplace was done by 9:40. There was so much
good food they brought to share that it was 8:57 before they gathered
for their first groups! We scheduled to run to 1:00. So we did 3
sessions of 1 hour each, with the closing circle at 12:40.

There were 21 of the 23 students there, and there were 4 faculty and
advisor folks too, a total of 25. The faculty and advisor people stayed
out of the sessions for the most part.

There was a healthy amount of bumble-beeing and butterflying, lots of
banter and laughter.

14 topics were posted, and they elected to combine 3 into one session.
Theme: "Issues and Opportunities in Our Businesses, Our Lives." Topics
included:
Managing business risk
How do we sell our products?
A name for my business
Juggling home, family & business
How do I connect with people
Finding a business location
The three that were combined: Funding for the future; How do we invest
in our business?; Connecting with business/financial partners
Ideas? Marketing...outside the box!
Stepping out
Having a business at home, or opening a store?

What I have learned from these folks is the shorter sessions (1 hour)
work better for them. Perhaps their needs and questions are more
discrete at this stage in their entrepreneurial adventure (many have not
actually started their businesses, they are just learning about business
plans and payroll taxes and the like). Maybe they are still unsure about
themselves and not sure even what questions to ask—maybe the questions
(or the answers) get deeper and have more permutations after they have
actually been doing their businesses for awhile (I have also been doing
retreats for graduates of this course with longer sessions and a
day-long format, and they sustain the conversations for longer times).
Not sure why shorter sessions would serve them better, but I saw groups
breaking up before the 60 minutes was up at least twice, maybe three
times, and at the end, the conversations seemed to be running down so I
went up to them after about 50 minutes and asked if they were done and
wanted to move into closing early, and they said yes.

A lot of emotion in the closing circle--even passing of tissues!

Another one for the books. Of course it worked.

             :- Doug. Germann
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