Hello: Responding to the question about an OS for a large group but e few hours I agree with Lisa and I want to say that yes it is very importqnt to have a lot os space for the agenda. I had 320 participants last week and this was a problem because they had problems getting to the wall to read. For the closing circle they helped put the chairs back in circles and I just took a few interventions but it was really interesting!
Adriana 2013/7/11 <chunili2...@yahoo.com> > Interesting discussion... > Scott, you said: "I want the organizational team to discover and I also > want to have them have those first few steps of how to get going on their > own. " What do THEY want? > > I guess a fundamental message that needs to be clearly conveyed from the > outset is who's responsible for the outcomes of the meeting? If you are, > and so communicated, I can see your desire to make sure certain things > happen...but if they are, and agree to it, then you are simply providing an > environment that allows them to be their own leaders and be responsible for > their own passions. If things don't turn out to their satisfaction, there > is something to be learned about themselves. > > I would focus the planning on the logistics so that the least amount of > time is wasted. > > > > Chuni Li > > > > *From:* Scott Gassman <scott.gass...@gmail.com> > *To:* World wide Open Space Technology email list < > oslist@lists.openspacetech.org> > *Sent:* Wednesday, July 10, 2013 8:47 PM > *Subject:* Re: [OSList] 1,000 participants in 4 hours > > Harrison, > > I am going to print these paragraphs of yours and think about the "ZERO > confidence," "about what is going on." > That's good material for me to think about as I approach future group > work. > I am touched by your Kathie story. Kathie's respect for you came out in a > conversation and made me want to learn Open Space, and so she really > steered me towards learning with you and Lisa up in Maine. I do remember > you leaving to take a nap and me scratching my head - how - in the middle, > can you let go? I guess until now I dance between the freedom of Open Space > and joint design team sharing that anchors me to do as much as I can to > support the group and deliver a quick start. I want the organizational > team to discover and I also want to have them have those first few steps of > how to get going on their own. > I think of it as pushing a kid on a 2 wheel bicycle, also "out of > control," aiming to get them to keep pedaling and stay up. > > Here's my honesty to you, Sharon Joy. > > Scott > > On Wed, Jul 10, 2013 at 6:06 PM, Harrison Owen <hho...@verizon.net> wrote: > > Scott said – “Not all of us have your (that’s me – HO) confidence, > clarity or competence in all situations to trust ourselves, in an > organization we may live/work in and/or the process in a room potentially > filled with bureaucrats, whose shadow can slow down the speed of large > group movement.” **** > ** ** > Nice words, Scott – but once again I have a different take. Truth is I > have ZERO confidence, to say nothing of clarity, in my “competence in all > situations to trust (my)ourselves, in an organization we may live/work in > and/or the process in a room potentially filled with bureaucrats, whose > shadow can slow down the speed of large group movement.” Quite to the > contrary, I know totally and completely that I will NEVER have a real clue > about what is going on. Too complex, inter-related, fast moving, opaque... > BUT the people do. My only responsibility (possibility) is to invite them > to do what only they know how to do – and then, as quickly as possible, get > out of the way. Usually to take a napJ**** > ** ** > And Kathie Dannemiller was a special person and a friend. I respect her > greatly. And... somebody once asked her why, given what she did, she didn’t > use Open Space. Her reply, as I heard it, was – “I’d be terrified ... it > could get out of control.” The big secret, of course, was that she (as we > all are) was always out of control – so there was nothing to lose.**** > **** > Harrison**** > ** ** > ** ** > ** ** > Harrison Owen**** > 7808 River Falls Dr.**** > Potomac, MD 20854**** > USA**** > ** ** > 189 Beaucaire Ave. (summer)**** > Camden, Maine 04843**** > ** ** > Phone 301-365-2093**** > (summer) 207-763-3261**** > ** ** > www.openspaceworld.com <http://www.openspaceworld.com%20/> **** > www.ho-image.com <http://www.ho-image.com%20/> (Personal Website)**** > To subscribe, unsubscribe, change your options, view the archives of > OSLIST Go to: > http://lists.openspacetech.org/listinfo.cgi/oslist-openspacetech.org**** > ** ** > *From:* oslist-boun...@lists.openspacetech.org [mailto: > oslist-boun...@lists.openspacetech.org] *On Behalf Of *Scott Gassman > *Sent:* Wednesday, July 10, 2013 5:01 PM > > *To:* World wide Open Space Technology email list > *Subject:* Re: [OSList] 1,000 participants in 4 hours**** > ** ** > Hi Harrison,**** > ** ** > Glad you responded, Sharon gets to think deeper about how to proceed and > be hopefully clearer about her design decisions.**** > I clearly hear "get out of the way quickly," and the authenticity of how > you have lived/practiced OpenSpace. I love it when I do it.**** > Not all of us have your confidence, clarity or competence in all > situations to trust ourselves, in an organization we may live/work in > and/or the process in a room potentially filled with bureaucrats, whose > shadow can slow down the speed of large group movement. **** > Whether my approach is a cop out to the OS process, my Kathie > Dannemillerlessons about Design Teams has helped me to usually make the > process > consciously the participants' process.**** > ** ** > Scott**** > ** ** > On Wed, Jul 10, 2013 at 1:30 PM, Harrison Owen <hho...@verizon.net> > wrote:**** > Scott – I guess I really have a different take. I have never seen any > reason to “plant” topics, or emplace “spark plugs.” In every situation > with large groups in my experience (my largest was 2108 J) – the people > do it all by themselves, just like usual. If anything the action is faster, > and more furious with a large group. Once it rolls, it really rolls. You > just got to get out of the way quickly – which is why I would make sure the > opening was fast and sweet. Once person (facilitator) only – and on with > the show! Of course the “necessary conditions” must be in place (real > business issue, complexity, diversity, passion, conflict, urgency) – and > from there on out the only thing you need to do is sit in a circle, create > bulletin board, open market place – and go to work. Nothing else needed.** > ** > **** > Harrison**** > **** > Harrison Owen**** > 7808 River Falls Dr.**** > Potomac, MD 20854**** > USA**** > **** > 189 Beaucaire Ave. (summer)**** > Camden, Maine 04843**** > **** > Phone 301-365-2093**** > (summer) 207-763-3261**** > **** > http://www.openspaceworld.com%20/ **** > http://www.ho-image.com%20/ (Personal Website)**** > To subscribe, unsubscribe, change your options, view the archives of > OSLIST Go to: > http://lists.openspacetech.org/listinfo.cgi/oslist-openspacetech.org**** > **** > *From:* oslist-boun...@lists.openspacetech.org [mailto: > oslist-boun...@lists.openspacetech.org] *On Behalf Of *Scott Gassman > *Sent:* Wednesday, July 10, 2013 10:13 AM > *To:* World wide Open Space Technology email list > *Subject:* Re: [OSList] 1,000 participants in 4 hours**** > **** > Hi Sharon Joy,**** > **** > Thanks for sharing your opportunity and provoking our experience and > imagination.**** > Lisa has given you great tips, great food for thought. For me the joy of > a laid back **** > OS alters when I must manage tighter time frames, larger numbers and > logistics. I **** > want people to see what they can get done when they are focused and led > through **** > well planned OS tasks. **** > I think about the outcome/purpose the client/group wants to walk away > with. I try to **** > get clear on their goal(s)/desired outcomes. I am fond of design teams > preceding **** > any large group initiative. I would bring together 5 to 10 vertically > positioned **** > influencers as soon as possible and preceding the get together and > confirm sought **** > desired outcomes, I would then ask them to brainstorm a list of > important topics**** > for this conversation and to rework the list into a vital few examples. > I would also **** > encourage this group to recognize the significance of their role and to > serve as **** > spark plugs to get the large group moving forward.**** > However the session is opened, I would include a design team member or > two to share their **** > hopes and aspirations for this meeting, and to briefly share the list of > topics as examples **** > for the 1,000 others to raise what matters most to them per the "high > performance **** > system"sought.**** > **** > This is a great opportunity for your government to work together.**** > I also look forward to learning about your experience and next steps.**** > **** > Scott Gassman**** > **** > **** > **** > On Tue, Jul 9, 2013 at 8:38 PM, Sharon Joy Chao < > sha...@seameo-innotech.org> wrote:**** > Need to figure a way of convening a thousand government people to go > through an exploratory discussion on high performance system, all under 4 > hours. > > This happens next week down south in the city of Cebu. The focus is on the > Philippine government service, its performance management system and how it > can be truly essential, responsive and life-giving. > > Gail West, my OS mentor friend, has provided me with some incredible > suggestions on how to proceed and she also advised me to post on OSList. > > Any thoughts on how best to proceed with a cast of thousand in 4 hours > time? > > Maraming Salamat. > > ======================================== > Sharon Joy Berlin Chao > SEAMEO INNOTECH > Commonwealth Avenue, U.P. Diliman, Quezon City > Metro Manila 1101 Philippines > Phone (632) 924-7681, 9267900 > Fax (632) 928-7692 > > > _______________________________________________ > OSList mailing list > To post send emails to OSList@lists.openspacetech.org > To unsubscribe send an email to oslist-le...@lists.openspacetech.org > To subscribe or manage your subscription click below: > http://lists.openspacetech.org/listinfo.cgi/oslist-openspacetech.org**** > > > **** > **** > -- > Scott Gassman > IdeaJuice > (917) 951 - 0258 > scott.gass...@gmail.com > http://www.ideajuices.com/ > > America Speaks on Scott: > http://americaspeaks.org/facilitator-spotlight/spotlight-on-scott-gassman/ > > **** > > _______________________________________________ > OSList mailing list > To post send emails to OSList@lists.openspacetech.org > To unsubscribe send an email to oslist-le...@lists.openspacetech.org > To subscribe or manage your subscription click below: > http://lists.openspacetech.org/listinfo.cgi/oslist-openspacetech.org**** > > > **** > ** ** > -- > Scott Gassman > IdeaJuice > (917) 951 - 0258 > scott.gass...@gmail.com > http://www.ideajuices.com/ > > America Speaks on Scott: > http://americaspeaks.org/facilitator-spotlight/spotlight-on-scott-gassman/ > > > **** > > _______________________________________________ > OSList mailing list > To post send emails to OSList@lists.openspacetech.org > To unsubscribe send an email to oslist-le...@lists.openspacetech.org > To subscribe or manage your subscription click below: > http://lists.openspacetech.org/listinfo.cgi/oslist-openspacetech.org > > > > > -- > Scott Gassman > IdeaJuice > (917) 951 - 0258 > scott.gass...@gmail.com > http://www.ideajuices.com/ > > America Speaks on Scott: > http://americaspeaks.org/facilitator-spotlight/spotlight-on-scott-gassman/ > > > > > _______________________________________________ > OSList mailing list > To post send emails to OSList@lists.openspacetech.org > To unsubscribe send an email to oslist-le...@lists.openspacetech.org > To subscribe or manage your subscription click below: > http://lists.openspacetech.org/listinfo.cgi/oslist-openspacetech.org > > > > _______________________________________________ > OSList mailing list > To post send emails to OSList@lists.openspacetech.org > To unsubscribe send an email to oslist-le...@lists.openspacetech.org > To subscribe or manage your subscription click below: > http://lists.openspacetech.org/listinfo.cgi/oslist-openspacetech.org > > -- Adriana Díaz-Berrio Ph.D. CRHA (514) 739 2268 www.diazberrio.com
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