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"Jag kan inte lära dig något. Allt jag kan göra är att ställa frågor till dig, och låta dig själv finna svaren." Sokrates 1 aug 2013 kl. 14.02 skrev Sharon Joy Chao: > Just two weeks ago I had this interesting experience of opening space for > 1,100 (yes, the number swelled) under 4 hours. You probably remember the > massive exchange in OSList on how to convene under these conditions as we > burned the line talking about the merit of this assignment. The extent of our > discussion was remarkable for it showed the depth of wisdom and passion > attached to the practice with ideas flying from one side of the globe to the > other. > > It started with an invitation to a two-day symposium on performance > management system in government service. And because it’s a symposium there > were 6 speakers lined up including a dozen others for concurrent sessions. > Day 1 had a couple of plenary and concurrent sessions. Open Space was slated > in the morning of Day 2 followed by a formal symposium integration and > closure in the afternoon. This was the first time HR people in government are > called together, and there was a good mix of people from national agencies, > government corporations, state universities and local government units in > attendance. > The open space session focused on making performance management system (PMS) > in public service truly essential, responsive and life giving. Sitting > through Day 1 presentations and forums made me realize that the audience have > compelling stories to tell in addition to having contending views on how to > move PMS in their agency. This prompted me to check my own motivation as I > worked with government in the past and I know that PMS has always been a > thorny issue in the service. I need to bring respect to everyone involved and > there’s no sense adding my own ideas and arrogance to the issue. > > Bits and pieces of the process I used that somehow worked despite the number > and the time configuration: > > · Space was tight to include provision of an open space in the middle, > but the hotel staff did an incredible job of assembling 5 layers of chairs in > concentric circle. With this arrangement a thousand chairs almost reached the > wall but then again that’s fine as there was ample space for people to move > in the center. To facilitate movement an open aisle was provided from four > points of the room so what we actually had was an open circle. > > > · Opening was limited to an hour with 15-minute sponsorship and a > walkthrough of the theme and the OST process. The whole spiel gave me time to > completely/slowly walk the circle to establish some degree of proximity with > the participants. The rest of the hour was spent getting people to queue and > publicly announce their topics. > > > · Convenors used placards (illustration board stapled on three-foot > bamboo stick) instead of papers to publish their topics. There was no > marketplace because the market was mobile. It was messy, disorderly and fun > when convenors started to go around the room for membership, while the rest > decide which topic to join. The decision to use placards was brought about by > hotel’s policy not to stick anything on the wall, and this policy actually > worked to everyone’s advantage. > > > · It helped to talk about chaos openly and early on. There’s no way I > can manage a thousand in four hours; and the only other thing left was expect > chaos, accept it, and work it to my advantage. At the same time I remained > calm and secure despite the seeming disarray inside the room especially when > people start standing up and moving into groups. It’s essential to coach the > sponsor to expect it. The analogy I used to convince them was that of a > wedding event, one can think things through and organize it to death but then > again things don’t usually turn out as planned. I also told the participants > to expect chaos, learn to live with the mess and love it. > > > · When all the topics were declared (about a hundred), I realize it > did not make sense sticking to the original plan of having two one-hour > session, despite the color coded placards and instructions for groups to have > two separate time frames. With placards on hand, people immediately self > organized. Not even those sticky numbers posted (yes, this was the only > concession we got from the hotel) made sense at this point. Respecting that > tendency, I decided not to call for two sessions but instead do a two-hour > session on the topics generated. This two hour event gave convenors ample > time not only to convene their group and discuss the topic but also time to > review and enrich the report. > > > · Wonderful suggestion never to let go of the microphone especially > during the queuing for topics and the closing of circle when a drove wanted > to speak. We apportioned an hour for closing the circle, with about 20 people > sharing their thoughts on the process and how they plan to move forward with > PMS in their agency. > > > · What worked for me in closing the circle was having someone to > anchor it and in this case it was the Chair of the Civil Service Commission. > This was very strategic as one can’t get any higher than this guy. > Commitments were made on the results of the OS discussion including the > commitment to hold an annual gathering of HR people in public service. > > > · I worked with one other friend in convening the circle. Having one > person to do the walk is fine but it’s important to have someone to help hold > the space with me, someone to ground me and to help make sense of the pulse > of those in the circle which can easily be missed when one is caught up with > things. > > > · I remember Harrison saying that opening spaces is a dance and we can > dance beautifully yet we should not be caught in it (I added some words here, > not sure if he agrees). It’s this balancing act that keeps me grounded and > calm but also allowed me to gently take rein of things when necessary to > secure the space, and it worked especially in opening and closing of the > space. In the end, OST became an act of accepting whatever comes and letting > go whatever goes. > > > Preparing the self or what works for me two weeks ago: > > > · I learn to love the mess and expect that nothing can be completely > accounted for. I talk about it with the organizers, cue people who are in the > circle and most importantly I embrace it like a mother embraces a child and > just let it be without losing myself to it. > > > · I learn to connect...I am passionate about this assignment as I > worked with government for 14 years before joining my present job. There was > deep connection between my need to serve and the intention of this gathering, > and this was instructive in the way I prepared myself for the assignment. I > drew strength from my love of government service, that I did not worry myself > senseless unlike my previous OS engagements. I eased up and just refused to > get caught in the usual pre-work worries. Don’t get me wrong pre-work is > important and I’m glad I had a group of young women backing me on the > details. But at the personal level, this engagement was unique as I dig deep > and spend more time settling down. I also had a good night rest before > opening the circle, so unlike the past. And there was a conscious attempt to > stop talking the night before, not only outside but also inside. I practiced > noble silence, ending the talk from the mouth and the mind. This is graceful > silence and a very powerful one, it’s the silence that heals and nourishes, > same energy I brought to the circle the next day. > > > · I learn to hack my way through and think on my feet. The ways of OST > never fail to surprise me, it served me on what I know would work yet > there’s no one way. I learn that there are many possible ways of moving > forward, and it is by challenging and provoking what I already know that > helps. What is universal and unchanging, what stays are the principles and > the law, in whatever arrangements or configuration these are the things that > stick. The rest is as experimental as catching the wave. > > > · I learn to stay humble and step back from a prescribed program > that’s already agreed upon but at the same time fearless despite what others > say because in the end it's also about that one solitary person in the middle > of the circle. It’s important to be open to the flow and to feel one’s way > through the crowd, just as we do in real life. > > _________________ > > > For better appreciation of this experience, I’ve uploaded some photos in my > Facebook account. > > Again, thank you for seeing me through this assignment. > > > > > > > > From: oslist-requ...@lists.openspacetech.org > To: oslist@lists.openspacetech.org > Date: 07/14/2013 04:07 AM > Subject: OSList Digest, Vol 29, Issue 12 > Sent by: oslist-boun...@lists.openspacetech.org > > > Send OSList mailing list submissions to > oslist@lists.openspacetech.org > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > http://lists.openspacetech.org/listinfo.cgi/oslist-openspacetech.org > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > oslist-requ...@lists.openspacetech.org > > You can reach the person managing the list at > oslist-ow...@lists.openspacetech.org > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of OSList digest..." > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Fwd: 1,000 participants in 4 hours (Suzanne Daigle) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Sat, 13 Jul 2013 07:36:22 -0400 > From: Suzanne Daigle <sdaig...@gmail.com> > To: OSLIST <OSList@lists.openspacetech.org> > Subject: [OSList] Fwd: 1,000 participants in 4 hours > Message-ID: > <cajh+flc3tjebvfsaezm9oucm6zriwjjq9gpkkd39jcnss8m...@mail.gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" > > Dear Sharon Joy, > > I am sending you my love and great "joy" that you have been asked to > facilitate this large and diverse group. > > In Open Space, they say whoever comes are the right people and you my dear > are the "right facilitator". You are already opening space so beautifully > for this event, with many on the OS list and in your midst coming forward > to contribute their great wisdom, experience and support because you have > extended the invitation. > > By simply asking and sharing, what wondrous space you are opening already. > What a gift to each of us, reading all that has been contributed. The > future and possibilities are being created before our eyes. > > You say in your note: "I pray for humility to open the circle, and strength > to step aside once the circle is open." > > Is this not the beautiful yin and yang of life! The pull of the opposites > -- the opposite of humility, the opposite of strength that we humans > struggle with so much. The walking into the unknowing that requires much > courage, wondering if we are enough to open such a big space. Know that we > are walking with you, Sharon Joy. > > I would not be able to offer any pearls of wisdom on the logistics of a > large group like this, not having had that experience. > > Yet in my heart of heart, guided by those beautiful OS principles, that law > and the "be prepared to be surprised", breathing in deeply, I know you will > be opening beautiful space. You will be inviting others to "experience the > magic" of Open Space just as we did together at WOSonOS in Taiwan where we > first met, in those early days of Open Space for each us...and now in that > short time, it has led to this! The opportunity to open space for 1000 > government Philippine people who want to create a truly essential, > energizing and responsive performance management system? Like wow how very > cool is that! > > I want to also thank you Sharon Joy. Because of what you posted and all the > wonderful replies that it invited, the dual role of the facilitator came > into sharper focus for me: the "doing" and the "not doing". > > I saw more clearly the important practical role of having all the > logistics in place, simply and effectively, from the fine details of the > traffic patterns to the basics of preparing an Open Space and then the more > spiritual role of opening, holding and closing space with no attachment to > outcome, just trusting the process. This too invites a duality, the duality > of organizing lightly and effectively and then letting go. > > In the end, however it happens, the gift is that space will be opened for > people to engage on what they care about. > > > Suzanne > > > > > > > > > ---------- Forwarded message ---------- > From: Sharon Joy Chao <sha...@seameo-innotech.org> > Date: Fri, Jul 12, 2013 at 11:07 AM > Subject: [OSList] 1,000 participants in 4 hours > To: "oslist@lists.openspacetech.org" <oslist@lists.openspacetech.org> > > > Its overwhelming reading through all the exchanges and good intentions my > request has generated. I read each mail and can't help but smile at the > treasure trove of ideas. > > First off, the 1,000 participants in 4 hours, is definitely pushing through > in Cebu. As its a big event, theres a team that's helping me and doing > much of the pre work on the ground. The venue is a huge hotel ballroom > enough to accommodate over 2,000 so space is not much of a worry. I was > shown pictures, the ballroom is squarish with high ceiling. Now here's the > catch, initially we thought of deploying balloons much like how Michael has > done in Germany some years back. But the hotel won't allow balloons inside > the hall, and also do not permit sticking anything on the wall. So, we are > left with following options: either to use the laundry line complete with > laundry clips or placards, which can be raised for people to see. > > I like the suggestion of Chris, as its something I can use to close the > circle. Some tweaking so it reads like this..."what did we learn in this > open space gathering and what do we need to do to support the momentum?" Of > course I still need to work with Civil Service people to make sense of the > results and also to post the same question to them. > > Btw, this OST event happens within a two-day symposium on Performance > Management System. And Harrison is right, there are tons of speakers on day > 1, day 2 starts with open space in the morning. The big question paused to > them is this: What bold steps can we take to create a truly essential, > energizing and responsive performance management system? Additional > speakers take over in the afternoon mainly for government pronouncements. > > The participants are government HR, OD and planning people, local > government and some private sector representatives. There might not be that > much exposure for deep engagement, but I'd still take this assignment > anytime. > > To touch base with as many government agencies and be able to open the > discussion on performance management; to have this engagement even for just > four hours and get government to seriously consider the kind of system > that gives life to the service...these are enough incentives for me to > accept the assignment. > > >From the practice of open space I learn to adopt a beginner's mind, one > that's open to possibility, a don't know mind, this coupled with the > practice of quieting the mind, prepares me to gracefully enter the circle. > I pray for humility to open the circle, and strength to step aside once the > circle is open. And yes, 15 min is enough time to set the space. > > The program, thanks to your suggestions is more streamlined...one hour > opening/issue generation; two one- hour sessions and another hour for > closing the circle. > > I truly can't thank everyone enough. Sending my love to Harrison, Lisa and > Franklin, and all those who are kind enough to play through the > configuration of 1,000 under 4 hours. I'll get back to you and share how it > goes. That would be something to look forward to :) > > Metta, > Sharon Joy > > > Sent from my iPad > > On Jul 12, 2013, at 4:06 AM, oslist-requ...@lists.openspacetech.org wrote: > > Send OSList mailing list submissions to > oslist@lists.openspacetech.org > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > http://lists.openspacetech.org/listinfo.cgi/oslist-openspacetech.org > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > oslist-requ...@lists.openspacetech.org > > You can reach the person managing the list at > oslist-ow...@lists.openspacetech.org > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of OSList digest..." > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Re: 1,000 participants in 4 hours (Scott Gassman) > 2. Re: 1,000 participants in 4 hours (Harrison Owen) > 3. Re: 1,000 participants in 4 hours (Chris Corrigan) > 4. Re: 1,000 participants in 4 hours (Scott Gassman) > 5. Re: 1,000 participants in 4 hours (K?ri Gunnarsson) > 6. Re: 1,000 participants in 4 hours (Michael M Pannwitz) > 7. open space in jeeps (K?ri Gunnarsson) > 8. Re: open space in jeeps (gerardo de luzenberger) > 9. Re: open space in jeeps (K?ri Gunnarsson) > > > 10. Re: 1,000 participants in 4 hours (Harrison Owen) > 11. Re: open space in jeeps (Lise Damkj?r) > 12. Re: 1,000 participants in 4 hours (chunili2...@yahoo.com) > 13. Re: 1,000 participants in 4 hours > (Lourdes Adriana Diaz-Berrio Doring) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Wed, 10 Jul 2013 17:00:37 -0400 > From: Scott Gassman <scott.gass...@gmail.com> > To: World wide Open Space Technology email list > <oslist@lists.openspacetech.org> > Subject: Re: [OSList] 1,000 participants in 4 hours > Message-ID: > <CAF1xtsS3fdNnEnpGaYDDM7SoxvvBGa=zsm3yk+oyc7tnbtq...@mail.gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="windows-1252" > > Hi Harrison, > > Glad you responded, Sharon gets to think deeper about how to proceed and be > hopefully clearer about her design decisions. > I clearly hear "get out of the way quickly," and the authenticity of how > you have lived/practiced OpenSpace. I love it when I do it. > Not all of us have your confidence, clarity or competence in all situations > to trust ourselves, in an organization we may live/work in and/or the > process in a room potentially filled with bureaucrats, whose shadow can > slow down the speed of large group movement. > Whether my approach is a cop out to the OS process, my Kathie Dannemiller > lessons about Design Teams has helped me to usually make the process > consciously the participants' process. > > Scott > > On Wed, Jul 10, 2013 at 1:30 PM, Harrison Owen <hho...@verizon.net> wrote: > > > Scott ? I guess I really have a different take. I have never seen any > > reason to ?plant? topics, or emplace ?spark plugs.? In every situation > with > > large groups in my experience (my largest was 2108 J) ? the people do it > > all by themselves, just like usual. If anything the action is faster, and > > more furious with a large group. Once it rolls, it really rolls. You just > > got to get out of the way quickly ? which is why I would make sure the > > opening was fast and sweet. Once person (facilitator) only ? and on with > > the show! Of course the ?necessary conditions? must be in place (real > > business issue, complexity, diversity, passion, conflict, urgency) ? and > > from there on out the only thing you need to do is sit in a circle, create > > bulletin board, open market place ? and go to work. Nothing else needed.** > > ** > > > > ** ** > > > > Harrison**** > > > > ** ** > > > > Harrison Owen**** > > > > 7808 River Falls Dr.**** > > > > Potomac, MD 20854**** > > > > USA**** > > > > ** ** > > > > 189 Beaucaire Ave. (summer)**** > > > > Camden, Maine 04843**** > > > > ** ** > > > > Phone 301-365-2093**** > > > > (summer) 207-763-3261**** > > > > ** ** > > > > www.openspaceworld.com <http://www.openspaceworld.com%20> **** > > > > www.ho-image.com <http://www.ho-image.com%20> (Personal Website)**** > > > > To subscribe, unsubscribe, change your options, view the archives of > > OSLIST Go to: > > http://lists.openspacetech.org/listinfo.cgi/oslist-openspacetech.org**** > > > > ** ** > > > > *From:* oslist-boun...@lists.openspacetech.org [mailto: > > oslist-boun...@lists.openspacetech.org] *On Behalf Of *Scott Gassman > > *Sent:* Wednesday, July 10, 2013 10:13 AM > > *To:* World wide Open Space Technology email list > > *Subject:* Re: [OSList] 1,000 participants in 4 hours**** > > > > ** ** > > > > Hi Sharon Joy,**** > > > > ** ** > > > > Thanks for sharing your opportunity and provoking our experience and > > imagination.**** > > > > Lisa has given you great tips, great food for thought. For me the joy of a > > laid back **** > > > > OS alters when I must manage tighter time frames, larger numbers and > > logistics. I **** > > > > want people to see what they can get done when they are focused and led > > through **** > > > > well planned OS tasks. **** > > > > I think about the outcome/purpose the client/group wants to walk away > > with. I try to **** > > > > get clear on their goal(s)/desired outcomes. I am fond of design teams > > preceding **** > > > > any large group initiative. I would bring together 5 to 10 vertically > > positioned **** > > > > influencers as soon as possible and preceding the get together and confirm > > sought **** > > > > desired outcomes, I would then ask them to brainstorm a list of important > > topics**** > > > > for this conversation and to rework the list into a vital few examples. I > > would also **** > > > > encourage this group to recognize the significance of their role and to > > serve as **** > > > > spark plugs to get the large group moving forward.**** > > > > However the session is opened, I would include a design team member or two > > to share their **** > > > > hopes and aspirations for this meeting, and to briefly share the list of > > topics as examples **** > > > > for the 1,000 others to raise what matters most to them per the "high > > performance **** > > > > system"sought.**** > > > > ** ** > > > > This is a great opportunity for your government to work together.**** > > > > I also look forward to learning about your experience and next steps.**** > > > > ** ** > > > > Scott Gassman**** > > > > ** ** > > > > ** ** > > > > ** ** > > > > On Tue, Jul 9, 2013 at 8:38 PM, Sharon Joy Chao < > > sha...@seameo-innotech.org> wrote:**** > > > > Need to figure a way of convening a thousand government people to go > > through an exploratory discussion on high performance system, all under 4 > > hours. > > > > This happens next week down south in the city of Cebu. The focus is on the > > Philippine government service, its performance management system and how > it > > can be truly essential, responsive and life-giving. > > > > Gail West, my OS mentor friend, has provided me with some incredible > > suggestions on how to proceed and she also advised me to post on OSList. > > > > Any thoughts on how best to proceed with a cast of thousand in 4 hours > > time? > > > > Maraming Salamat. > > > > ======================================== > > Sharon Joy Berlin Chao > > SEAMEO INNOTECH > > Commonwealth Avenue, U.P. Diliman, Quezon City > > Metro Manila 1101 Philippines > > Phone (632) 924-7681, 9267900 > > Fax (632) 928-7692 > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > OSList mailing list > > To post send emails to OSList@lists.openspacetech.org > > To unsubscribe send an email to oslist-le...@lists.openspacetech.org > > To subscribe or manage your subscription click below: > > http://lists.openspacetech.org/listinfo.cgi/oslist-openspacetech.org**** > > > > > > > > **** > > > > ** ** > > > > -- > > Scott Gassman > > IdeaJuice > > (917) 951 - 0258 > > scott.gass...@gmail.com > > www.ideajuices.com > > > > America Speaks on Scott: > > http://americaspeaks.org/facilitator-spotlight/spotlight-on-scott-gassman/ > > > > > > **** > > > > _______________________________________________ > > OSList mailing list > > To post send emails to OSList@lists.openspacetech.org > > To unsubscribe send an email to oslist-le...@lists.openspacetech.org > > To subscribe or manage your subscription click below: > > http://lists.openspacetech.org/listinfo.cgi/oslist-openspacetech.org > > > > > > > -- > Scott Gassman > IdeaJuice > (917) 951 - 0258 > scott.gass...@gmail.com > www.ideajuices.com > > America Speaks on Scott: > http://americaspeaks.org/facilitator-spotlight/spotlight-on-scott-gassman/ > -------------- next part -------------- > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > URL: < > http://lists.openspacetech.org/pipermail/oslist-openspacetech.org/attachments/20130710/e578e1ac/attachment.html > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 2 > Date: Wed, 10 Jul 2013 18:06:55 -0400 > From: "Harrison Owen" <hho...@verizon.net> > To: "'World wide Open Space Technology email list'" > <oslist@lists.openspacetech.org> > Subject: Re: [OSList] 1,000 participants in 4 hours > Message-ID: <000601ce7db9$cb061bc0$61125340$@net> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > > Scott said - "Not all of us have your (that's me - HO) confidence, clarity > or competence in all situations to trust ourselves, in an organization we > may live/work in and/or the process in a room potentially filled with > bureaucrats, whose shadow can slow down the speed of large group movement." > > > > Nice words, Scott - but once again I have a different take. Truth is I have > ZERO confidence, to say nothing of clarity, in my "competence in all > situations to trust (my)ourselves, in an organization we may live/work in > and/or the process in a room potentially filled with bureaucrats, whose > shadow can slow down the speed of large group movement." Quite to the > contrary, I know totally and completely that I will NEVER have a real clue > about what is going on. Too complex, inter-related, fast moving, opaque... > BUT the people do. My only responsibility (possibility) is to invite them to > do what only they know how to do - and then, as quickly as possible, get out > of the way. Usually to take a napJ > > > > And Kathie Dannemiller was a special person and a friend. I respect her > greatly. And... somebody once asked her why, given what she did, she didn't > use Open Space. Her reply, as I heard it, was - "I'd be terrified ... it > could get out of control." The big secret, of course, was that she (as we > all are) was always out of control - so there was nothing to lose. > > Harrison > > > > > > > > Harrison Owen > > 7808 River Falls Dr. > > Potomac, MD 20854 > > USA > > > > 189 Beaucaire Ave. (summer) > > Camden, Maine 04843 > > > > Phone 301-365-2093 > > (summer) 207-763-3261 > > > > www.openspaceworld.com > > www.ho-image.com (Personal Website) > > To subscribe, unsubscribe, change your options, view the archives of OSLIST > Go to: > <http://lists.openspacetech.org/listinfo.cgi/oslist-openspacetech.org> > http://lists.openspacetech.org/listinfo.cgi/oslist-openspacetech.org > > > > From: oslist-boun...@lists.openspacetech.org > [mailto:oslist-boun...@lists.openspacetech.org<oslist-boun...@lists.openspacetech.org>] > On Behalf Of Scott Gassman > Sent: Wednesday, July 10, 2013 5:01 PM > To: World wide Open Space Technology email list > Subject: Re: [OSList] 1,000 participants in 4 hours > > > > Hi Harrison, > > > > Glad you responded, Sharon gets to think deeper about how to proceed and be > hopefully clearer about her design decisions. > > I clearly hear "get out of the way quickly," and the authenticity of how you > have lived/practiced OpenSpace. I love it when I do it. > > Not all of us have your confidence, clarity or competence in all situations > to trust ourselves, in an organization we may live/work in and/or the > process in a room potentially filled with bureaucrats, whose shadow can slow > down the speed of large group movement. > > Whether my approach is a cop out to the OS process, my Kathie Dannemiller > lessons about Design Teams has helped me to usually make the process > consciously the participants' process. > > > > Scott > > > > On Wed, Jul 10, 2013 at 1:30 PM, Harrison Owen <hho...@verizon.net> wrote: > > Scott - I guess I really have a different take. I have never seen any reason > to "plant" topics, or emplace "spark plugs." In every situation with large > groups in my experience (my largest was 2108 J) - the people do it all by > themselves, just like usual. If anything the action is faster, and more > furious with a large group. Once it rolls, it really rolls. You just got to > get out of the way quickly - which is why I would make sure the opening was > fast and sweet. Once person (facilitator) only - and on with the show! Of > course the "necessary conditions" must be in place (real business issue, > complexity, diversity, passion, conflict, urgency) - and from there on out > the only thing you need to do is sit in a circle, create bulletin board, > open market place - and go to work. Nothing else needed. > > > > Harrison > > > > Harrison Owen > > 7808 River Falls Dr. > > Potomac, MD 20854 > > USA > > > > 189 Beaucaire Ave. (summer) > > Camden, Maine 04843 > > > > Phone 301-365-2093 > > (summer) 207-763-3261 > > > > www.openspaceworld.com <http://www.openspaceworld.com%20> > > www.ho-image.com <http://www.ho-image.com%20> (Personal Website) > > To subscribe, unsubscribe, change your options, view the archives of OSLIST > Go to:http://lists.openspacetech.org/listinfo.cgi/oslist-openspacetech.org > > > > From: oslist-boun...@lists.openspacetech.org > [mailto:oslist-boun...@lists.openspacetech.org<oslist-boun...@lists.openspacetech.org>] > On Behalf Of Scott Gassman > Sent: Wednesday, July 10, 2013 10:13 AM > To: World wide Open Space Technology email list > Subject: Re: [OSList] 1,000 participants in 4 hours > > > > Hi Sharon Joy, > > > > Thanks for sharing your opportunity and provoking our experience and > imagination. > > Lisa has given you great tips, great food for thought. For me the joy of a > laid back > > OS alters when I must manage tighter time frames, larger numbers and > logistics. I > > want people to see what they can get done when they are focused and led > through > > well planned OS tasks. > > I think about the outcome/purpose the client/group wants to walk away with. > I try to > > get clear on their goal(s)/desired outcomes. I am fond of design teams > preceding > > any large group initiative. I would bring together 5 to 10 vertically > positioned > > influencers as soon as possible and preceding the get together and confirm > sought > > desired outcomes, I would then ask them to brainstorm a list of important > topics > > for this conversation and to rework the list into a vital few examples. I > would also > > encourage this group to recognize the significance of their role and to > serve as > > spark plugs to get the large group moving forward. > > However the session is opened, I would include a design team member or two > to share their > > hopes and aspirations for this meeting, and to briefly share the list of > topics as examples > > for the 1,000 others to raise what matters most to them per the "high > performance > > system"sought. > > > > This is a great opportunity for your government to work together. > > I also look forward to learning about your experience and next steps. > > > > Scott Gassman > > > > > > > > On Tue, Jul 9, 2013 at 8:38 PM, Sharon Joy Chao <sha...@seameo-innotech.org> > wrote: > > Need to figure a way of convening a thousand government people to go through > an exploratory discussion on high performance system, all under 4 hours. > > This happens next week down south in the city of Cebu. The focus is on the > Philippine government service, its performance management system and how it > can be truly essential, responsive and life-giving. > > Gail West, my OS mentor friend, has provided me with some incredible > suggestions on how to proceed and she also advised me to post on OSList. > > Any thoughts on how best to proceed with a cast of thousand in 4 hours time? > > > Maraming Salamat. > > ======================================== > Sharon Joy Berlin Chao > SEAMEO INNOTECH > Commonwealth Avenue, U.P. Diliman, Quezon City > Metro Manila 1101 Philippines > Phone (632) 924-7681, 9267900 > Fax (632) 928-7692 > > > _______________________________________________ > OSList mailing list > To post send emails to OSList@lists.openspacetech.org > To unsubscribe send an email to oslist-le...@lists.openspacetech.org > To subscribe or manage your subscription click below: > http://lists.openspacetech.org/listinfo.cgi/oslist-openspacetech.org > > > > > > > > -- > Scott Gassman > IdeaJuice > (917) 951 - 0258 > scott.gass...@gmail.com > www.ideajuices.com > > America Speaks on Scott: > http://americaspeaks.org/facilitator-spotlight/spotlight-on-scott-gassman/ > > > > > _______________________________________________ > OSList mailing list > To post send emails to OSList@lists.openspacetech.org > To unsubscribe send an email to oslist-le...@lists.openspacetech.org > To subscribe or manage your subscription click below: > http://lists.openspacetech.org/listinfo.cgi/oslist-openspacetech.org > > > > > > > > -- > Scott Gassman > IdeaJuice > (917) 951 - 0258 > scott.gass...@gmail.com > www.ideajuices.com > > America Speaks on Scott: > http://americaspeaks.org/facilitator-spotlight/spotlight-on-scott-gassman/ > > > > > -------------- next part -------------- > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > URL: < > http://lists.openspacetech.org/pipermail/oslist-openspacetech.org/attachments/20130710/ef43ab9b/attachment-0001.htm > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 3 > Date: Wed, 10 Jul 2013 15:47:45 -0700 > From: Chris Corrigan <ch...@chriscorrigan.com> > To: World wide Open Space Technology email list > <oslist@lists.openspacetech.org> > Subject: Re: [OSList] 1,000 participants in 4 hours > Message-ID: > <cao8x+wdbst7ae4k5vmx3_njem_sbadnrtn4iegatmks5keq...@mail.gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="windows-1252" > > Agreeing with Harrison here. > > Lisa has given some great advice. If you were going to make it possible to > host 1000 people in Open Space for 4 hours, Lisa's detailed list gives you > your best shot of doing that and being successful. > > Don't be fooled though...this is a huge ask to do this well. The largest > group I ever hosted was about 600 people and honestly, the thought of doing > that in a half day is truly overwhelming. You need a large team with you > to make sure the logistics flow and make sure that people can find where > they need to go in a timely way. But 1000 people moving about in a space > is a really big ask, and that takes WAAAAY more time than you think it > will. And God forbid someone calls a session and 75 people show up because > it is rich and juicy - just being able to be heard and get a few comments > in will be challenging. > > As for the design teams idea, that one is really simple. With a crowd of > 1000 people all proposing and hosting conversations I think having a few > people predetermine some trigger topics will give a false sense of comfort > that they are actually able to be influential. The fact is that 1000 > people are ALREADY talking and this Open Space will simply make that all > visible. To host this in Open Space you simply HAVE to have confidence in > your ability to stand in the room and host. If you can't do that, it's > going to be hard for you. You will not be able to control the shadow of > the group nor the possibility of emergence. Once the group is working you > will barely be able to reconvene them, let alone impact the emotional field > of the event. So you and the core team need to let go of outcomes and get > really curious about what might emerge from this afternoon of work. > > Instead of design teams I would counsel that you have several dozen > listeners somehow connected to the bigger project who can discern what is > going on. After the event invite them and the conveners of every > conversation to engage in a little meaning making together. That could > still be a meeting of more than 100 people, but you could do it in Open > Space and ask the question: "So what did we learn from our 1000 people open > space and what do we need to do to support momentum?" > > And as for outcomes, there is very little this group collectively will be > able to accomplish in four hours other than people shaving the conversation > they came to have (not the ones the sponsors want them to have) with a few > people who managed to find them. You might use a tool like > http://smsharvest.com as a way of catching insights on the fly from > everywhere. But it will be really hard to get any collective clarity. > > This is a tough one Sharon Joy. I wish you a lot of luck and good clarity > and hope you will share the story with us of whatever happens. There will > be lots of learning in it for all of us. > > Chris > > > On Wed, Jul 10, 2013 at 3:06 PM, Harrison Owen <hho...@verizon.net> wrote: > > > Scott said ? ?Not all of us have your (that?s me ? HO) confidence, clarity > > or competence in all situations to trust ourselves, in an organization we > > may live/work in and/or the process in a room potentially filled with > > bureaucrats, whose shadow can slow down the speed of large group > movement.? > > **** > > > > ** ** > > > > Nice words, Scott ? but once again I have a different take. Truth is I > > have ZERO confidence, to say nothing of clarity, in my ?competence in all > > situations to trust (my)ourselves, in an organization we may live/work in > > and/or the process in a room potentially filled with bureaucrats, whose > > shadow can slow down the speed of large group movement.? Quite to the > > contrary, I know totally and completely that I will NEVER have a real > clue > > about what is going on. Too complex, inter-related, fast moving, opaque... > > BUT the people do. My only responsibility (possibility) is to invite them > > to do what only they know how to do ? and then, as quickly as possible, > get > > out of the way. Usually to take a napJ**** > > > > ** ** > > > > And Kathie Dannemiller was a special person and a friend. I respect her > > greatly. And... somebody once asked her why, given what she did, she > didn?t > > use Open Space. Her reply, as I heard it, was ? ?I?d be terrified ... it > > could get out of control.? The big secret, of course, was that she (as we > > all are) was always out of control ? so there was nothing to lose.**** > > > > **** > > > > Harrison**** > > > > ** ** > > > > ** ** > > > > ** ** > > > > Harrison Owen**** > > > > 7808 River Falls Dr.**** > > > > Potomac, MD 20854**** > > > > USA**** > > > > ** ** > > > > 189 Beaucaire Ave. (summer)**** > > > > Camden, Maine 04843**** > > > > ** ** > > > > Phone 301-365-2093**** > > > > (summer) 207-763-3261**** > > > > ** ** > > > > www.openspaceworld.com <http://www.openspaceworld.com%20> **** > > > > www.ho-image.com <http://www.ho-image.com%20> (Personal Website)**** > > > > To subscribe, unsubscribe, change your options, view the archives of > > OSLIST Go to: > > http://lists.openspacetech.org/listinfo.cgi/oslist-openspacetech.org**** > > > > ** ** > > > > *From:* oslist-boun...@lists.openspacetech.org [mailto: > > oslist-boun...@lists.openspacetech.org] *On Behalf Of *Scott Gassman > > *Sent:* Wednesday, July 10, 2013 5:01 PM > > > > *To:* World wide Open Space Technology email list > > *Subject:* Re: [OSList] 1,000 participants in 4 hours**** > > > > ** ** > > > > Hi Harrison,**** > > > > ** ** > > > > Glad you responded, Sharon gets to think deeper about how to proceed and > > be hopefully clearer about her design decisions.**** > > > > I clearly hear "get out of the way quickly," and the authenticity of how > > you have lived/practiced OpenSpace. I love it when I do it.**** > > > > Not all of us have your confidence, clarity or competence in all > > situations to trust ourselves, in an organization we may live/work in > > and/or the process in a room potentially filled with bureaucrats, whose > > shadow can slow down the speed of large group movement. **** > > > > Whether my approach is a cop out to the OS process, my Kathie Dannemiller > > lessons about Design Teams has helped me to usually make the process > > consciously the participants' process.**** > > > > ** ** > > > > Scott**** > > > > ** ** > > > > On Wed, Jul 10, 2013 at 1:30 PM, Harrison Owen <hho...@verizon.net> wrote: > > **** > > > > Scott ? I guess I really have a different take. I have never seen any > > reason to ?plant? topics, or emplace ?spark plugs.? In every situation > with > > large groups in my experience (my largest was 2108 J) ? the people do it > > all by themselves, just like usual. If anything the action is faster, and > > more furious with a large group. Once it rolls, it really rolls. You just > > got to get out of the way quickly ? which is why I would make sure the > > opening was fast and sweet. Once person (facilitator) only ? and on with > > the show! Of course the ?necessary conditions? must be in place (real > > business issue, complexity, diversity, passion, conflict, urgency) ? and > > from there on out the only thing you need to do is sit in a circle, create > > bulletin board, open market place ? and go to work. Nothing else needed.** > > ** > > > > **** > > > > Harrison**** > > > > **** > > > > Harrison Owen**** > > > > 7808 River Falls Dr.**** > > > > Potomac, MD 20854**** > > > > USA**** > > > > **** > > > > 189 Beaucaire Ave. (summer)**** > > > > Camden, Maine 04843**** > > > > **** > > > > Phone 301-365-2093**** > > > > (summer) 207-763-3261**** > > > > **** > > > > www.openspaceworld.com <http://www.openspaceworld.com%20> **** > > > > www.ho-image.com <http://www.ho-image.com%20> (Personal Website)**** > > > > To subscribe, unsubscribe, change your options, view the archives of > > OSLIST Go to: > > http://lists.openspacetech.org/listinfo.cgi/oslist-openspacetech.org**** > > > > **** > > > > *From:* oslist-boun...@lists.openspacetech.org [mailto: > > oslist-boun...@lists.openspacetech.org] *On Behalf Of *Scott Gassman > > *Sent:* Wednesday, July 10, 2013 10:13 AM > > *To:* World wide Open Space Technology email list > > *Subject:* Re: [OSList] 1,000 participants in 4 hours**** > > > > **** > > > > Hi Sharon Joy,**** > > > > **** > > > > Thanks for sharing your opportunity and provoking our experience and > > imagination.**** > > > > Lisa has given you great tips, great food for thought. For me the joy of a > > laid back **** > > > > OS alters when I must manage tighter time frames, larger numbers and > > logistics. I **** > > > > want people to see what they can get done when they are focused and led > > through **** > > > > well planned OS tasks. **** > > > > I think about the outcome/purpose the client/group wants to walk away > > with. I try to **** > > > > get clear on their goal(s)/desired outcomes. I am fond of design teams > > preceding **** > > > > any large group initiative. I would bring together 5 to 10 vertically > > positioned **** > > > > influencers as soon as possible and preceding the get together and confirm > > sought **** > > > > desired outcomes, I would then ask them to brainstorm a list of important > > topics**** > > > > for this conversation and to rework the list into a vital few examples. I > > would also **** > > > > encourage this group to recognize the significance of their role and to > > serve as **** > > > > spark plugs to get the large group moving forward.**** > > > > However the session is opened, I would include a design team member or two > > to share their **** > > > > hopes and aspirations for this meeting, and to briefly share the list of > > topics as examples **** > > > > for the 1,000 others to raise what matters most to them per the "high > > performance **** > > > > system"sought.**** > > > > **** > > > > This is a great opportunity for your government to work together.**** > > > > I also look forward to learning about your experience and next steps.**** > > > > **** > > > > Scott Gassman**** > > > > **** > > > > **** > > > > **** > > > > On Tue, Jul 9, 2013 at 8:38 PM, Sharon Joy Chao < > > sha...@seameo-innotech.org> wrote:**** > > > > Need to figure a way of convening a thousand government people to go > > through an exploratory discussion on high performance system, all under 4 > > hours. > > > > This happens next week down south in the city of Cebu. The focus is on the > > Philippine government service, its performance management system and how > it > > can be truly essential, responsive and life-giving. > > > > Gail West, my OS mentor friend, has provided me with some incredible > > suggestions on how to proceed and she also advised me to post on OSList. > > > > Any thoughts on how best to proceed with a cast of thousand in 4 hours > > time? > > > > Maraming Salamat. > > > > ======================================== > > Sharon Joy Berlin Chao > > SEAMEO INNOTECH > > Commonwealth Avenue, U.P. Diliman, Quezon City > > Metro Manila 1101 Philippines > > Phone (632) 924-7681, 9267900 > > Fax (632) 928-7692 > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > OSList mailing list > > To post send emails to OSList@lists.openspacetech.org > > To unsubscribe send an email to oslist-le...@lists.openspacetech.org > > To subscribe or manage your subscription click below: > > http://lists.openspacetech.org/listinfo.cgi/oslist-openspacetech.org**** > > > > > > > > **** > > > > **** > > > > -- > > Scott Gassman > > IdeaJuice > > (917) 951 - 0258 > > scott.gass...@gmail.com > > www.ideajuices.com > > > > America Speaks on Scott: > > http://americaspeaks.org/facilitator-spotlight/spotlight-on-scott-gassman/ > > > > **** > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > OSList mailing list > > To post send emails to OSList@lists.openspacetech.org > > To unsubscribe send an email to oslist-le...@lists.openspacetech.org > > To subscribe or manage your subscription click below: > > http://lists.openspacetech.org/listinfo.cgi/oslist-openspacetech.org**** > > > > > > > > **** > > > > ** ** > > > > -- > > Scott Gassman > > IdeaJuice > > (917) 951 - 0258 > > scott.gass...@gmail.com > > www.ideajuices.com > > > > America Speaks on Scott: > > http://americaspeaks.org/facilitator-spotlight/spotlight-on-scott-gassman/ > > > > > > **** > > > > _______________________________________________ > > OSList mailing list > > To post send emails to OSList@lists.openspacetech.org > > To unsubscribe send an email to oslist-le...@lists.openspacetech.org > > To subscribe or manage your subscription click below: > > http://lists.openspacetech.org/listinfo.cgi/oslist-openspacetech.org > > > > > > > -- > --- > CHRIS CORRIGAN > Facilitation - Training - Process Design > Open Space Technology - Art of Hosting > > http://www.chriscorrigan.com > > *Upcoming workshops* > * > > Wise Leadership in > Practice<http://www.kaasamine.ee/koolitused/wise-leadership-in-practice> > August 22-25, S?nna Cultural Manor, Estonia > > * > *Art of Hosting - Art of (Inter)action* <http://www.aohmontreal.org/en/> > *October 8-10, 2013, Montreal, PQ.* > > * > Art of Hosting <http://aohrivendell.withtank.com/> - Participatory > Leadership and Social Collaboration > November 11-14, 2013, Bowen Island, BC, Canada. > * > -------------- next part -------------- > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > URL: < > http://lists.openspacetech.org/pipermail/oslist-openspacetech.org/attachments/20130710/7a16a9c8/attachment-0001.htm > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 4 > Date: Wed, 10 Jul 2013 20:47:52 -0400 > From: Scott Gassman <scott.gass...@gmail.com> > To: World wide Open Space Technology email list > <oslist@lists.openspacetech.org> > Subject: Re: [OSList] 1,000 participants in 4 hours > Message-ID: > <CAF1xtsQpfXW2Bk0=6nszatce8awzdak3jkpquegtfvjkjrx...@mail.gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="windows-1252" > > Harrison, > > I am going to print these paragraphs of yours and think about the "ZERO > confidence," "about what is going on." > That's good material for me to think about as I approach future group > work. > I am touched by your Kathie story. Kathie's respect for you came out in a > conversation and made me want to learn Open Space, and so she really > steered me towards learning with you and Lisa up in Maine. I do remember > you leaving to take a nap and me scratching my head - how - in the middle, > can you let go? I guess until now I dance between the freedom of Open Space > and joint design team sharing that anchors me to do as much as I can to > support the group and deliver a quick start. I want the organizational > team to discover and I also want to have them have those first few steps of > how to get going on their own. > I think of it as pushing a kid on a 2 wheel bicycle, also "out of control," > aiming to get them to keep pedaling and stay up. > > Here's my honesty to you, Sharon Joy. > > Scott > > On Wed, Jul 10, 2013 at 6:06 PM, Harrison Owen <hho...@verizon.net> wrote: > > > Scott said ? ?Not all of us have your (that?s me ? HO) confidence, clarity > > or competence in all situations to trust ourselves, in an organization we > > may live/work in and/or the process in a room potentially filled with > > bureaucrats, whose shadow can slow down the speed of large group > movement.? > > **** > > > > ** ** > > > > Nice words, Scott ? but once again I have a different take. Truth is I > > have ZERO confidence, to say nothing of clarity, in my ?competence in all > > situations to trust (my)ourselves, in an organization we may live/work in > > and/or the process in a room potentially filled with bureaucrats, whose > > shadow can slow down the speed of large group movement.? Quite to the > > contrary, I know totally and completely that I will NEVER have a real > clue > > about what is going on. Too complex, inter-related, fast moving, opaque... > > BUT the people do. My only responsibility (possibility) is to invite them > > to do what only they know how to do ? and then, as quickly as possible, > get > > out of the way. Usually to take a napJ**** > > > > ** ** > > > > And Kathie Dannemiller was a special person and a friend. I respect her > > greatly. And... somebody once asked her why, given what she did, she > didn?t > > use Open Space. Her reply, as I heard it, was ? ?I?d be terrified ... it > > could get out of control.? The big secret, of course, was that she (as we > > all are) was always out of control ? so there was nothing to lose.**** > > > > **** > > > > Harrison**** > > > > ** ** > > > > ** ** > > > > ** ** > > > > Harrison Owen**** > > > > 7808 River Falls Dr.**** > > > > Potomac, MD 20854**** > > > > USA**** > > > > ** ** > > > > 189 Beaucaire Ave. (summer)**** > > > > Camden, Maine 04843**** > > > > ** ** > > > > Phone 301-365-2093**** > > > > (summer) 207-763-3261**** > > > > ** ** > > > > www.openspaceworld.com <http://www.openspaceworld.com%20> **** > > > > www.ho-image.com <http://www.ho-image.com%20> (Personal Website)**** > > > > To subscribe, unsubscribe, change your options, view the archives of > > OSLIST Go to: > > http://lists.openspacetech.org/listinfo.cgi/oslist-openspacetech.org**** > > > > ** ** > > > > *From:* oslist-boun...@lists.openspacetech.org [mailto: > > oslist-boun...@lists.openspacetech.org] *On Behalf Of *Scott Gassman > > *Sent:* Wednesday, July 10, 2013 5:01 PM > > > > *To:* World wide Open Space Technology email list > > *Subject:* Re: [OSList] 1,000 participants in 4 hours**** > > > > ** ** > > > > Hi Harrison,**** > > > > ** ** > > > > Glad you responded, Sharon gets to think deeper about how to proceed and > > be hopefully clearer about her design decisions.**** > > > > I clearly hear "get out of the way quickly," and the authenticity of how > > you have lived/practiced OpenSpace. I love it when I do it.**** > > > > Not all of us have your confidence, clarity or competence in all > > situations to trust ourselves, in an organization we may live/work in > > and/or the process in a room potentially filled with bureaucrats, whose > > shadow can slow down the speed of large group movement. **** > > > > Whether my approach is a cop out to the OS process, my Kathie Dannemiller > > lessons about Design Teams has helped me to usually make the process > > consciously the participants' process.**** > > > > ** ** > > > > Scott**** > > > > ** ** > > > > On Wed, Jul 10, 2013 at 1:30 PM, Harrison Owen <hho...@verizon.net> wrote: > > **** > > > > Scott ? I guess I really have a different take. I have never seen any > > reason to ?plant? topics, or emplace ?spark plugs.? In every situation > with > > large groups in my experience (my largest was 2108 J) ? the people do it > > all by themselves, just like usual. If anything the action is faster, and > > more furious with a large group. Once it rolls, it really rolls. You just > > got to get out of the way quickly ? which is why I would make sure the > > opening was fast and sweet. Once person (facilitator) only ? and on with > > the show! Of course the ?necessary conditions? must be in place (real > > business issue, complexity, diversity, passion, conflict, urgency) ? and > > from there on out the only thing you need to do is sit in a circle, create > > bulletin board, open market place ? and go to work. Nothing else needed.** > > ** > > > > **** > > > > Harrison**** > > > > **** > > > > Harrison Owen**** > > > > 7808 River Falls Dr.**** > > > > Potomac, MD 20854**** > > > > USA**** > > > > **** > > > > 189 Beaucaire Ave. (summer)**** > > > > Camden, Maine 04843**** > > > > **** > > > > Phone 301-365-2093**** > > > > (summer) 207-763-3261**** > > > > **** > > > > www.openspaceworld.com <http://www.openspaceworld.com%20> **** > > > > www.ho-image.com <http://www.ho-image.com%20> (Personal Website)**** > > > > To subscribe, unsubscribe, change your options, view the archives of > > OSLIST Go to: > > http://lists.openspacetech.org/listinfo.cgi/oslist-openspacetech.org**** > > > > **** > > > > *From:* oslist-boun...@lists.openspacetech.org [mailto: > > oslist-boun...@lists.openspacetech.org] *On Behalf Of *Scott Gassman > > *Sent:* Wednesday, July 10, 2013 10:13 AM > > *To:* World wide Open Space Technology email list > > *Subject:* Re: [OSList] 1,000 participants in 4 hours**** > > > > **** > > > > Hi Sharon Joy,**** > > > > **** > > > > Thanks for sharing your opportunity and provoking our experience and > > imagination.**** > > > > Lisa has given you great tips, great food for thought. For me the joy of a > > laid back **** > > > > OS alters when I must manage tighter time frames, larger numbers and > > logistics. I **** > > > > want people to see what they can get done when they are focused and led > > through **** > > > > well planned OS tasks. **** > > > > I think about the outcome/purpose the client/group wants to walk away > > with. I try to **** > > > > get clear on their goal(s)/desired outcomes. I am fond of design teams > > preceding **** > > > > any large group initiative. I would bring together 5 to 10 vertically > > positioned **** > > > > influencers as soon as possible and preceding the get together and confirm > > sought **** > > > > desired outcomes, I would then ask them to brainstorm a list of important > > topics**** > > > > for this conversation and to rework the list into a vital few examples. I > > would also **** > > > > encourage this group to recognize the significance of their role and to > > serve as **** > > > > spark plugs to get the large group moving forward.**** > > > > However the session is opened, I would include a design team member or two > > to share their **** > > > > hopes and aspirations for this meeting, and to briefly share the list of > > topics as examples **** > > > > for the 1,000 others to raise what matters most to them per the "high > > performance **** > > > > system"sought.**** > > > > **** > > > > This is a great opportunity for your government to work together.**** > > > > I also look forward to learning about your experience and next steps.**** > > > > **** > > > > Scott Gassman**** > > > > **** > > > > **** > > > > **** > > > > On Tue, Jul 9, 2013 at 8:38 PM, Sharon Joy Chao < > > sha...@seameo-innotech.org> wrote:**** > > > > Need to figure a way of convening a thousand government people to go > > through an exploratory discussion on high performance system, all under 4 > > hours. > > > > This happens next week down south in the city of Cebu. The focus is on the > > Philippine government service, its performance management system and how > it > > can be truly essential, responsive and life-giving. > > > > Gail West, my OS mentor friend, has provided me with some incredible > > suggestions on how to proceed and she also advised me to post on OSList. > > > > Any thoughts on how best to proceed with a cast of thousand in 4 hours > > time? > > > > Maraming Salamat. > > > > ======================================== > > Sharon Joy Berlin Chao > > SEAMEO INNOTECH > > Commonwealth Avenue, U.P. Diliman, Quezon City > > Metro Manila 1101 Philippines > > Phone (632) 924-7681, 9267900 > > Fax (632) 928-7692 > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > OSList mailing list > > To post send emails to OSList@lists.openspacetech.org > > To unsubscribe send an email to oslist-le...@lists.openspacetech.org > > To subscribe or manage your subscription click below: > > http://lists.openspacetech.org/listinfo.cgi/oslist-openspacetech.org**** > > > > > > > > **** > > > > **** > > > > -- > > Scott Gassman > > IdeaJuice > > (917) 951 - 0258 > > scott.gass...@gmail.com > > www.ideajuices.com > > > > America Speaks on Scott: > > http://americaspeaks.org/facilitator-spotlight/spotlight-on-scott-gassman/ > > > > **** > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > OSList mailing list > > To post send emails to OSList@lists.openspacetech.org > > To unsubscribe send an email to oslist-le...@lists.openspacetech.org > > To subscribe or manage your subscription click below: > > http://lists.openspacetech.org/listinfo.cgi/oslist-openspacetech.org**** > > > > > > > > **** > > > > ** ** > > > > -- > > Scott Gassman > > IdeaJuice > > (917) 951 - 0258 > > scott.gass...@gmail.com > > www.ideajuices.com > > > > America Speaks on Scott: > > http://americaspeaks.org/facilitator-spotlight/spotlight-on-scott-gassman/ > > > > > > **** > > > > _______________________________________________ > > OSList mailing list > > To post send emails to OSList@lists.openspacetech.org > > To unsubscribe send an email to oslist-le...@lists.openspacetech.org > > To subscribe or manage your subscription click below: > > http://lists.openspacetech.org/listinfo.cgi/oslist-openspacetech.org > > > > > > > -- > Scott Gassman > IdeaJuice > (917) 951 - 0258 > scott.gass...@gmail.com > www.ideajuices.com > > America Speaks on Scott: > http://americaspeaks.org/facilitator-spotlight/spotlight-on-scott-gassman/ > -------------- next part -------------- > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > URL: < > http://lists.openspacetech.org/pipermail/oslist-openspacetech.org/attachments/20130710/57327a15/attachment-0001.htm > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 5 > Date: Thu, 11 Jul 2013 05:55:23 +0000 > From: K?ri Gunnarsson <kari.gunnars...@simnet.is> > To: World wide Open Space Technology email list > <oslist@lists.openspacetech.org> > Subject: Re: [OSList] 1,000 participants in 4 hours > Message-ID: > <caejhslkxqsbt9ujyj76dv5z9jtordcrnjapdvwjvjb2k77e...@mail.gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 > > A question here > > I have been a bit confused about the selection process for open space. > In my last possibly large gathering, there I was opening up the idea > to my client that we should have a self-selection of participants in > the open space by use of open invitation letters to the possible > participants. My client did not like that. > > How have these 1000 people been selected to take part in the open > space and dose that mater in any way? > > with a breeze from Iceland > K?ri > > On 10 July 2013 19:56, Harrison Owen <hho...@verizon.net> wrote: > > Sharon Joy -- What a joy (excuse the pun) to see you here! You do have a > > hand full, but it will be fun. With large groups, my biggest concern is > > always to have enough space. And 1000 people do need some major room to > > maneuver, particularly when the time is short. Two spaces are critical: in > > the center of the circle, and at the wall. With that many people I would > > look for a center open space of 100 feet across. It is more than likely > that > > you will have 100-150 people all rushing to the center, and that will > become > > quite confusing if they don?t have any room. And at the wall ? remember > that > > there will be a time when you have 1000 people all trying to read what is > up > > there (issues) and make their session selections. If the wall is too > short, > > the people will bunch up, and when people are standing 5-6 deep, it will > get > > frustrating and things will move slowly. My rule of thumb is 6 inches of > > wall per participant. That way people will never be more than 2-3 deep. > You > > can get away with less wall, but, but you do pay a price. In terms of time > > periods I would suggest 1 ? hours for the opening, 2 -- 1 hour Sessions, > and > > a half hour for the close, maybe even less. It is all ?doable? but I do > have > > to ask: Why just 4 hours? > > > > > > > > I suspicion the answer is something like ? there will be speeches and > > presentations in the morning, which presumably will provide the people > with > > the necessary inspiration and information to do the job. However, every > time > > I have been in a situation like that, the information provided was never > > enough, and the inspiration imparted simply didn?t do the job. More to the > > point, there is an implicit statement made which I find most troubling. It > > would seem that the wisdom of the several ?presenters? somehow was equal > to > > and/or took precedence over the collective wisdom and experience of 1000 > > people. Of course this could be true, but if it is, I seriously doubt that > > Opening Space will do all that much good. Probably better to just fire > > (terminate) the lot. On the other hand, if that 1000 person collective > > wisdom is of the sort and depth I suspect it to be ? the allocation of > time > > is, if nothing else, short sighted and disrespectful. It might seem that > the > > ?idiots and children? will be allowed a little play time after the experts > > and adults have set the stage. Am I suggesting that you and your > colleagues > > thought this way? Definitely not. But that is a possible conclusion based > on > > the facts on the ground. And I have definitely experienced situations > where > > the ?thought? not only occurred, but was totally conscious. Worst case > was a > > CEO of a large American corporation who was heard to say, ?Never turn the > > asylum over to the inmates.? The Asylum, of course was the company, and > the > > ?inmates? were all the employees. Is it any wonder that creativity and > > innovation at that company were virtually non-existent, and that employee > > morale was dismal? Thankfully the company is now out of business. > > > > > > > > Doubtless I have gone way too far here, and knowing you Sharon Joy, I know > > that such thoughts would never enter your mind. That said, I find that > > sometimes what we do speaks so much louder than what we think or say. And > > even worse when our actions are the direct antithesis of our real > > intentions. > > > > > > > > Harrison > > > > > > > > Harrison Owen > > > > 7808 River Falls Dr. > > > > Potomac, MD 20854 > > > > USA > > > > > > > > 189 Beaucaire Ave. (summer) > > > > Camden, Maine 04843 > > > > > > > > Phone 301-365-2093 > > > > (summer) 207-763-3261 > > > > > > > > www.openspaceworld.com > > > > www.ho-image.com (Personal Website) > > > > To subscribe, unsubscribe, change your options, view the archives of > OSLIST > > Go to:http://lists.openspacetech.org/listinfo.cgi/oslist-openspacetech.org > > > > > > > > From: oslist-boun...@lists.openspacetech.org > > [mailto:oslist-boun...@lists.openspacetech.org<oslist-boun...@lists.openspacetech.org>] > On Behalf Of Sharon Joy Chao > > Sent: Tuesday, July 09, 2013 8:39 PM > > To: oslist@lists.openspacetech.org > > Subject: [OSList] 1,000 participants in 4 hours > > > > > > > > Need to figure a way of convening a thousand government people to go > through > > an exploratory discussion on high performance system, all under 4 hours. > > > > This happens next week down south in the city of Cebu. The focus is on the > > Philippine government service, its performance management system and how > it > > can be truly essential, responsive and life-giving. > > > > Gail West, my OS mentor friend, has provided me with some incredible > > suggestions on how to proceed and she also advised me to post on OSList. > > > > Any thoughts on how best to proceed with a cast of thousand in 4 hours > time? > > > > Maraming Salamat. > > > > ======================================== > > Sharon Joy Berlin Chao > > SEAMEO INNOTECH > > Commonwealth Avenue, U.P. Diliman, Quezon City > > Metro Manila 1101 Philippines > > Phone (632) 924-7681, 9267900 > > Fax (632) 928-7692 > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > OSList mailing list > > To post send emails to OSList@lists.openspacetech.org > > To unsubscribe send an email to oslist-le...@lists.openspacetech.org > > To subscribe or manage your subscription click below: > > http://lists.openspacetech.org/listinfo.cgi/oslist-openspacetech.org > > > > > > -- > K?ri Gunnarsson > k...@openspace.is > gsm: +354 8645189 > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 6 > Date: Thu, 11 Jul 2013 09:00:29 +0200 > From: Michael M Pannwitz <mmpannw...@gmail.com> > To: World wide Open Space Technology email list > <oslist@lists.openspacetech.org> > Subject: Re: [OSList] 1,000 participants in 4 hours > Message-ID: <51de580d.6040...@gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed > > Dear Kari, > if an invitation is sent to all that the Planning Group (sponsor > included) want to be at the event under the approach/question "who > should be at the event so that the stuff we expect from the event under > the Heading we came up with for the event will happen?" those receiving > the invitation respond to the invitation the way one would usually > respond: accept or decline (selfselection). > Huge advantage of this selfselection is that the people picking up their > spirit and body to come are the right people. > People that come because they ought to, feel they have to, are forced to > etc. are also selfselecting themselves. > And all that show up hear my words about "The Law" and my invitation to > "obey" it (at least twice in the event)... listening to their feedback I > find that most folks find it liberating when they follow The Law, and > stay and participate (passionately). > Now, this is not really an answer to your question on the selection of > the 1000 people. > The event that HO refers to occasionally (the event with 2108 > participants) took place at the end of a five day conference with 3500 > folks in attendance. In the invitation to the conference people wanting > to attend the OST part had to sign up for it seperately (this determined > how many cushions we bought and how much food was supplied and how many > toilets had to be set up etc.) and pay an additonal fee. > In this way, following the invitation meant putting down some extra > money, filling out a form with their contact data for the documentation > all in addition to the decision that they wanted to be part of it. These > kinds of commitments are perhaps trivial but many sponsors are trying to > avoid to attach those commitments to the invitation to make it "easier" > for people to come... also a form of control. > > Like the breeze from Iceland which actually arrived during the night and > brought a refreshingly cool morning > Greetings from Berlin > mmp > > On 11.07.2013 07:55, K?ri Gunnarsson wrote: > > A question here > > > > I have been a bit confused about the selection process for open space. > > In my last possibly large gathering, there I was opening up the idea > > to my client that we should have a self-selection of participants in > > the open space by use of open invitation letters to the possible > > participants. My client did not like that. > > > > How have these 1000 people been selected to take part in the open > > space and dose that mater in any way? > > > > with a breeze from Iceland > > K?ri > > > > On 10 July 2013 19:56, Harrison Owen <hho...@verizon.net> wrote: > >> Sharon Joy -- What a joy (excuse the pun) to see you here! You do have a > >> hand full, but it will be fun. With large groups, my biggest concern is > >> always to have enough space. And 1000 people do need some major room to > >> maneuver, particularly when the time is short. Two spaces are critical: > in > >> the center of the circle, and at the wall. With that many people I would > >> look for a center open space of 100 feet across. It is more than likely > that > >> you will have 100-150 people all rushing to the center, and that will > become > >> quite confusing if they don?t have any room. And at the wall ? remember > that > >> there will be a time when you have 1000 people all trying to read what > is up > >> there (issues) and make their session selections. If the wall is too > short, > >> the people will bunch up, and when people are standing 5-6 deep, it will > get > >> frustrating and things will move slowly. My rule of thumb is 6 inches of > >> wall per participant. That way people will never be more than 2-3 deep. > You > >> can get away with less wall, but, but you do pay a price. In terms of > time > >> periods I would suggest 1 ? hours for the opening, 2 -- 1 hour Sessions, > and > >> a half hour for the close, maybe even less. It is all ?doable? but I do > have > >> to ask: Why just 4 hours? > >> > >> > >> > >> I suspicion the answer is something like ? there will be speeches and > >> presentations in the morning, which presumably will provide the people > with > >> the necessary inspiration and information to do the job. However, every > time > >> I have been in a situation like that, the information provided was never > >> enough, and the inspiration imparted simply didn?t do the job. More to > the > >> point, there is an implicit statement made which I find most troubling. > It > >> would seem that the wisdom of the several ?presenters? somehow was equal > to > >> and/or took precedence over the collective wisdom and experience of 1000 > >> people. Of course this could be true, but if it is, I seriously doubt > that > >> Opening Space will do all that much good. Probably better to just fire > >> (terminate) the lot. On the other hand, if that 1000 person collective > >> wisdom is of the sort and depth I suspect it to be ? the allocation of > time > >> is, if nothing else, short sighted and disrespectful. It might seem that > the > >> ?idiots and children? will be allowed a little play time after the > experts > >> and adults have set the stage. Am I suggesting that you and your > colleagues > >> thought this way? Definitely not. But that is a possible conclusion > based on > >> the facts on the ground. And I have definitely experienced situations > where > >> the ?thought? not only occurred, but was totally conscious. Worst case > was a > >> CEO of a large American corporation who was heard to say, ?Never turn the > >> asylum over to the inmates.? The Asylum, of course was the company, and > the > >> ?inmates? were all the employees. Is it any wonder that creativity and > >> innovation at that company were virtually non-existent, and that employee > >> morale was dismal? Thankfully the company is now out of business. > >> > >> > >> > >> Doubtless I have gone way too far here, and knowing you Sharon Joy, I > know > >> that such thoughts would never enter your mind. That said, I find that > >> sometimes what we do speaks so much louder than what we think or say. And > >> even worse when our actions are the direct antithesis of our real > >> intentions. > >> > >> > >> > >> Harrison > >> > >> > >> > >> Harrison Owen > >> > >> 7808 River Falls Dr. > >> > >> Potomac, MD 20854 > >> > >> USA > >> > >> > >> > >> 189 Beaucaire Ave. (summer) > >> > >> Camden, Maine 04843 > >> > >> > >> > >> Phone 301-365-2093 > >> > >> (summer) 207-763-3261 > >> > >> > >> > >> www.openspaceworld.com > >> > >> www.ho-image.com (Personal Website) > >> > >> To subscribe, unsubscribe, change your options, view the archives of > OSLIST > >> Go to: > http://lists.openspacetech.org/listinfo.cgi/oslist-openspacetech.org > >> > >> > >> > >> From: oslist-boun...@lists.openspacetech.org > >> [mailto:oslist-boun...@lists.openspacetech.org<oslist-boun...@lists.openspacetech.org>] > On Behalf Of Sharon Joy Chao > >> Sent: Tuesday, July 09, 2013 8:39 PM > >> To: oslist@lists.openspacetech.org > >> Subject: [OSList] 1,000 participants in 4 hours > >> > >> > >> > >> Need to figure a way of convening a thousand government people to go > through > >> an exploratory discussion on high performance system, all under 4 hours. > >> > >> This happens next week down south in the city of Cebu. The focus is on > the > >> Philippine government service, its performance management system and how > it > >> can be truly essential, responsive and life-giving. > >> > >> Gail West, my OS mentor friend, has provided me with some incredible > >> suggestions on how to proceed and she also advised me to post on OSList. > >> > >> Any thoughts on how best to proceed with a cast of thousand in 4 hours > time? > >> > >> Maraming Salamat. > >> > >> ======================================== > >> Sharon Joy Berlin Chao > >> SEAMEO INNOTECH > >> Commonwealth Avenue, U.P. Diliman, Quezon City > >> Metro Manila 1101 Philippines > >> Phone (632) 924-7681, 9267900 > >> Fax (632) 928-7692 > >> > >> > >> _______________________________________________ > >> OSList mailing list > >> To post send emails to OSList@lists.openspacetech.org > >> To unsubscribe send an email to oslist-le...@lists.openspacetech.org > >> To subscribe or manage your subscription click below: > >> http://lists.openspacetech.org/listinfo.cgi/oslist-openspacetech.org > >> > > > > > > > > -- > Michael M Pannwitz > Draisweg 1, 12209 Berlin, Germany > ++49 - 30-772 8000 > > > > Check out the Open Space World Map presently showing 410 resident Open > Space Workers in 72 countries working in a total of 143 countries > worldwide: www.openspaceworldmap.org > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 7 > Date: Thu, 11 Jul 2013 08:04:55 +0000 > From: K?ri Gunnarsson <kari.gunnars...@simnet.is> > To: World wide Open Space Technology email list > <oslist@lists.openspacetech.org> > Subject: [OSList] open space in jeeps > Message-ID: > <caejhsln7rsad-46wtrcvy1eosxgyntw1k91w7qkkv+qb_c+...@mail.gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 > > I been wondering for a few years if anyone here has ever attempted to > host a moving open space. > > If you are booking Iceland for your open space, then perhaps it would > be fun to see some sites and have discussion on the road. In my > extended family we have a tradition that every 3 years we meet for a > road trip. This road trip covers a short distance and is like an open > space. for we drive for 5 to 15 minutes and then we stop for an hour > in different locations where the power of the coffee brake takes over > and people gather to talk about what needs to be talked about. This > year we had 85 people in 20 jeeps driving around and mixing up the > groups every time. If discussion was not done, then it would continue > in the new place, the arrangement of people in jeeps was also > changeable based on what we needed to talk about. Even with the > possibly bad whether we can do this, as we all have nice clothing that > protects us from rain, snow and wind. If it rains then we keep our > papers in the jeeps. > > Open Space meeting in jeeps on the road has the problem of > impermanence of space, as we are driving around. Any wall space would > need to be virtual. We already have good place markers that we take > with us, that is the jeeps them selves, as a different discussion > group can form next to jeep A or B. The time slots would be the place > names of the sites that we visit. Like "Jeep B at Geysir" would be a > group convening next to jeep B whenever we are next at the Geysir > site. > > The traditional site seeing in groups is usually hosted with a site > guide that dumps to much information in to short of a time and hurries > along so most of the people become to tiered to talk about other > maters. This must be avoided, but we can still have some light and > informative information of the sites by use of the comm system in the > jeeps while approaching the sites. We can also tag along and enjoy the > sites while conversing with our groups by giving a little more time, I > would recommend to take a step out of the discussion to take in the > site and revive the power of the pure nature to fuel the spiritual > dimension of the discussion. > > In my experiences, the energies and dimensions of a group of jeep > traveling have almost all the parts that can be used for a good open > space practice. The only missing part would be the wall that would > need to be implemented virtually with tablet or smart phone > application usable with an in jeep wifi / G4 system. > > There are two major factors that drive me to these thoughts, one is > that the nature is marvels and it is a shame to be stuck in a building > when we can be traveling. And the other factor is that I like groups > to come to my small country for experiencing these marvels while going > on with the business that matters. > > Any experiences, thoughts, opportunities or comments are welcome. > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 8 > Date: Thu, 11 Jul 2013 12:53:30 +0200 > From: gerardo de luzenberger <x...@loci.it> > To: World wide Open Space Technology email list > <oslist@lists.openspacetech.org> > Subject: Re: [OSList] open space in jeeps > Message-ID: > <CANk02oP5Zhpaof9ewvDvJ2TxYovyP5M=fi6uf-7-+0qsu8+...@mail.gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="windows-1252" > > Hi Kari, what marvellous story. > While reading I was just wondering > what happens to the law of two feet and > how you manage to aloud butterflying. > Are those lovely creatures that are just > there doing nothing sitting on a special car? > ge > > *Gerardo de Luzenberger** > ****Mob: +39 3293281343* > *Tel: +39 02 89751746* > *Fax: +39 02 87151318 * > *Skype: gerardodeluz ? > *x...@loci.it<https://mail.google.com/mail/u/1/blocked::mailto:x...@loci.it> > *IAF: Certified Professional Facilitator* > > *genius**loci * > > *facilitation & development > PREMIO IMPRESA INNOVATIVA E CREATIVA > DELLA PROVINCIA DI MILANO > *www.loci.it <https://mail.google.com/mail/u/1/blocked::http://www.loci.it/> > ? > i...@loci.it <https://mail.google.com/mail/u/1/blocked::mailto:i...@loci.it> > http://www.flickr.com/photos/geniusloci/ > > Sede legale: Via A. 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If you are not an intended recipient(s), > please notify it via e-mail at > i...@loci.it<https://mail.google.com/mail/u/1/blocked::mailto:i...@loci.it > >promp > > > 2013/7/11 K?ri Gunnarsson <kari.gunnars...@simnet.is> > > > I been wondering for a few years if anyone here has ever attempted to > > host a moving open space. > > > > If you are booking Iceland for your open space, then perhaps it would > > be fun to see some sites and have discussion on the road. In my > > extended family we have a tradition that every 3 years we meet for a > > road trip. This road trip covers a short distance and is like an open > > space. for we drive for 5 to 15 minutes and then we stop for an hour > > in different locations where the power of the coffee brake takes over > > and people gather to talk about what needs to be talked about. This > > year we had 85 people in 20 jeeps driving around and mixing up the > > groups every time. If discussion was not done, then it would continue > > in the new place, the arrangement of people in jeeps was also > > changeable based on what we needed to talk about. Even with the > > possibly bad whether we can do this, as we all have nice clothing that > > protects us from rain, snow and wind. If it rains then we keep our > > papers in the jeeps. > > > > Open Space meeting in jeeps on the road has the problem of > > impermanence of space, as we are driving around. Any wall space would > > need to be virtual. We already have good place markers that we take > > with us, that is the jeeps them selves, as a different discussion > > group can form next to jeep A or B. The time slots would be the place > > names of the sites that we visit. Like "Jeep B at Geysir" would be a > > group convening next to jeep B whenever we are next at the Geysir > > site. > > > > The traditional site seeing in groups is usually hosted with a site > > guide that dumps to much information in to short of a time and hurries > > along so most of the people become to tiered to talk about other > > maters. This must be avoided, but we can still have some light and > > informative information of the sites by use of the comm system in the > > jeeps while approaching the sites. We can also tag along and enjoy the > > sites while conversing with our groups by giving a little more time, I > > would recommend to take a step out of the discussion to take in the > > site and revive the power of the pure nature to fuel the spiritual > > dimension of the discussion. > > > > In my experiences, the energies and dimensions of a group of jeep > > traveling have almost all the parts that can be used for a good open > > space practice. The only missing part would be the wall that would > > need to be implemented virtually with tablet or smart phone > > application usable with an in jeep wifi / G4 system. > > > > There are two major factors that drive me to these thoughts, one is > > that the nature is marvels and it is a shame to be stuck in a building > > when we can be traveling. And the other factor is that I like groups > > to come to my small country for experiencing these marvels while going > > on with the business that matters. > > > > Any experiences, thoughts, opportunities or comments are welcome. > > _______________________________________________ > > OSList mailing list > > To post send emails to OSList@lists.openspacetech.org > > To unsubscribe send an email to oslist-le...@lists.openspacetech.org > > To subscribe or manage your subscription click below: > > http://lists.openspacetech.org/listinfo.cgi/oslist-openspacetech.org > > > -------------- next part -------------- > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > URL: < > http://lists.openspacetech.org/pipermail/oslist-openspacetech.org/attachments/20130711/69424967/attachment-0001.htm > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 9 > Date: Thu, 11 Jul 2013 11:23:40 +0000 > From: K?ri Gunnarsson <kari.gunnars...@simnet.is> > To: World wide Open Space Technology email list > <oslist@lists.openspacetech.org> > Subject: Re: [OSList] open space in jeeps > Message-ID: > <caejhslnoophkhaewb9hgww3pd5vbe3gtrmpt2uevcqho8aw...@mail.gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 > > Hi Gerardo > > I have often been butterflying with my mind out of the window enjoying > the marvels of the landscape while begin a passenger of a Jeep, taking > no notice of the conversations happening next to me. > > In our Open Space Jeep ride with frequent stops for sites and > conversations and many Jeeps, the butterflies will see the sites and > find them sleeves in different jeeps all of the time. > > I think Ill draft out a fun 3 day tour and an empowering 5 day tour > for this new moving by jeep open space format, with hot-spring outdoor > thermal pools, geysers, volcanic lava-fields, waterfalls, glaciers, > Nordic buffets, green energy sites and all the traditional fun stuff, > ready for a topic and an invited group. > > with a breeze from Iceland > K?ri > > > On 11 July 2013 10:53, gerardo de luzenberger <x...@loci.it> wrote: > > Hi Kari, what marvellous story. > > While reading I was just wondering > > what happens to the law of two feet and > > how you manage to aloud butterflying. > > Are those lovely creatures that are just > > there doing nothing sitting on a special car? > > ge > > > > Gerardo de Luzenberger > > Mob: +39 3293281343 > > Tel: +39 02 89751746 > > Fax: +39 02 87151318 > > Skype: gerardodeluz ? x...@loci.it > > IAF: Certified Professional Facilitator > > > > geniusloci > > > > facilitation & development > > PREMIO IMPRESA INNOVATIVA E CREATIVA > > DELLA PROVINCIA DI MILANO > > www.loci.it ? i...@loci.it http://www.flickr.com/photos/geniusloci/ > > > > Sede legale: Via A. 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If you are not an intended recipient(s), > > please notify it via e-mail at i...@loci.it promp > > > > > > > > 2013/7/11 K?ri Gunnarsson <kari.gunnars...@simnet.is> > >> > >> I been wondering for a few years if anyone here has ever attempted to > >> host a moving open space. > >> > >> If you are booking Iceland for your open space, then perhaps it would > >> be fun to see some sites and have discussion on the road. In my > >> extended family we have a tradition that every 3 years we meet for a > >> road trip. This road trip covers a short distance and is like an open > >> space. for we drive for 5 to 15 minutes and then we stop for an hour > >> in different locations where the power of the coffee brake takes over > >> and people gather to talk about what needs to be talked about. This > >> year we had 85 people in 20 jeeps driving around and mixing up the > >> groups every time. If discussion was not done, then it would continue > >> in the new place, the arrangement of people in jeeps was also > >> changeable based on what we needed to talk about. Even with the > >> possibly bad whether we can do this, as we all have nice clothing that > >> protects us from rain, snow and wind. If it rains then we keep our > >> papers in the jeeps. > >> > >> Open Space meeting in jeeps on the road has the problem of > >> impermanence of space, as we are driving around. Any wall space would > >> need to be virtual. We already have good place markers that we take > >> with us, that is the jeeps them selves, as a different discussion > >> group can form next to jeep A or B. The time slots would be the place > >> names of the sites that we visit. Like "Jeep B at Geysir" would be a > >> group convening next to jeep B whenever we are next at the Geysir > >> site. > >> > >> The traditional site seeing in groups is usually hosted with a site > >> guide that dumps to much information in to short of a time and hurries > >> along so most of the people become to tiered to talk about other > >> maters. This must be avoided, but we can still have some light and > >> informative information of the sites by use of the comm system in the > >> jeeps while approaching the sites. We can also tag along and enjoy the > >> sites while conversing with our groups by giving a little more time, I > >> would recommend to take a step out of the discussion to take in the > >> site and revive the power of the pure nature to fuel the spiritual > >> dimension of the discussion. > >> > >> In my experiences, the energies and dimensions of a group of jeep > >> traveling have almost all the parts that can be used for a good open > >> space practice. The only missing part would be the wall that would > >> need to be implemented virtually with tablet or smart phone > >> application usable with an in jeep wifi / G4 system. > >> > >> There are two major factors that drive me to these thoughts, one is > >> that the nature is marvels and it is a shame to be stuck in a building > >> when we can be traveling. And the other factor is that I like groups > >> to come to my small country for experiencing these marvels while going > >> on with the business that matters. > >> > >> Any experiences, thoughts, opportunities or comments are welcome. > >> _______________________________________________ > >> OSList mailing list > >> To post send emails to OSList@lists.openspacetech.org > >> To unsubscribe send an email to oslist-le...@lists.openspacetech.org > >> To subscribe or manage your subscription click below: > >> http://lists.openspacetech.org/listinfo.cgi/oslist-openspacetech.org > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > OSList mailing list > > To post send emails to OSList@lists.openspacetech.org > > To unsubscribe send an email to oslist-le...@lists.openspacetech.org > > To subscribe or manage your subscription click below: > > http://lists.openspacetech.org/listinfo.cgi/oslist-openspacetech.org > > > > > > -- > K?ri Gunnarsson > k...@openspace.is > gsm: +354 8645189 > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 10 > Date: Thu, 11 Jul 2013 08:35:31 -0400 > From: "Harrison Owen" <hho...@verizon.net> > To: "'World wide Open Space Technology email list'" > <oslist@lists.openspacetech.org> > Subject: Re: [OSList] 1,000 participants in 4 hours > Message-ID: <000301ce7e33$2242d440$66c87cc0$@net> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > > Scott - When teaching a kid to ride a bike, you only push as long as you > have to. When the kid takes off - Let Them Go! In my experience, when riding > the "Open Space Bike" a 15 min push will do the job, provided the conditions > are right (real issue, complexity, diversity, etc). Actually, with every > group I've ever worked with - large or small - it seems like they already > knew how to ride. They just needed a gentle reminder - and off they went. No > help needed. > > > > Harrison > > > > Harrison Owen > > 7808 River Falls Dr. > > Potomac, MD 20854 > > USA > > > > 189 Beaucaire Ave. (summer) > > Camden, Maine 04843 > > > > Phone 301-365-2093 > > (summer) 207-763-3261 > > > > www.openspaceworld.com > > www.ho-image.com (Personal Website) > > To subscribe, unsubscribe, change your options, view the archives of OSLIST > Go to: > <http://lists.openspacetech.org/listinfo.cgi/oslist-openspacetech.org> > http://lists.openspacetech.org/listinfo.cgi/oslist-openspacetech.org > > > > From: oslist-boun...@lists.openspacetech.org > [mailto:oslist-boun...@lists.openspacetech.org<oslist-boun...@lists.openspacetech.org>] > On Behalf Of Scott Gassman > Sent: Wednesday, July 10, 2013 8:48 PM > To: World wide Open Space Technology email list > Subject: Re: [OSList] 1,000 participants in 4 hours > > > > Harrison, > > > > I am going to print these paragraphs of yours and think about the "ZERO > confidence," "about what is going on." > > That's good material for me to think about as I approach future group > work. > > I am touched by your Kathie story. Kathie's respect for you came out in a > conversation and made me want to learn Open Space, and so she really steered > me towards learning with you and Lisa up in Maine. I do remember you leaving > to take a nap and me scratching my head - how - in the middle, can you let > go? I guess until now I dance between the freedom of Open Space and joint > design team sharing that anchors me to do as much as I can to support the > group and deliver a quick start. I want the organizational team to discover > and I also want to have them have those first few steps of how to get going > on their own. > > I think of it as pushing a kid on a 2 wheel bicycle, also "out of control," > aiming to get them to keep pedaling and stay up. > > > > Here's my honesty to you, Sharon Joy. > > > > Scott > > > > On Wed, Jul 10, 2013 at 6:06 PM, Harrison Owen <hho...@verizon.net> wrote: > > Scott said - "Not all of us have your (that's me - HO) confidence, clarity > or competence in all situations to trust ourselves, in an organization we > may live/work in and/or the process in a room potentially filled with > bureaucrats, whose shadow can slow down the speed of large group movement." > > > > Nice words, Scott - but once again I have a different take. Truth is I have > ZERO confidence, to say nothing of clarity, in my "competence in all > situations to trust (my)ourselves, in an organization we may live/work in > and/or the process in a room potentially filled with bureaucrats, whose > shadow can slow down the speed of large group movement." Quite to the > contrary, I know totally and completely that I will NEVER have a real clue > about what is going on. Too complex, inter-related, fast moving, opaque... > BUT the people do. My only responsibility (possibility) is to invite them to > do what only they know how to do - and then, as quickly as possible, get out > of the way. Usually to take a napJ > > > > And Kathie Dannemiller was a special person and a friend. I respect her > greatly. And... somebody once asked her why, given what she did, she didn't > use Open Space. Her reply, as I heard it, was - "I'd be terrified ... it > could get out of control." The big secret, of course, was that she (as we > all are) was always out of control - so there was nothing to lose. > > Harrison > > > > > > > > Harrison Owen > > 7808 River Falls Dr. > > Potomac, MD 20854 > > USA > > > > 189 Beaucaire Ave. (summer) > > Camden, Maine 04843 > > > > Phone 301-365-2093 > > (summer) 207-763-3261 > > > > www.openspaceworld.com <http://www.openspaceworld.com%20> > > www.ho-image.com <http://www.ho-image.com%20> (Personal Website) > > To subscribe, unsubscribe, change your options, view the archives of OSLIST > Go to:http://lists.openspacetech.org/listinfo.cgi/oslist-openspacetech.org > > > > From: oslist-boun...@lists.openspacetech.org > [mailto:oslist-boun...@lists.openspacetech.org<oslist-boun...@lists.openspacetech.org>] > On Behalf Of Scott Gassman > Sent: Wednesday, July 10, 2013 5:01 PM > > > To: World wide Open Space Technology email list > Subject: Re: [OSList] 1,000 participants in 4 hours > > > > Hi Harrison, > > > > Glad you responded, Sharon gets to think deeper about how to proceed and be > hopefully clearer about her design decisions. > > I clearly hear "get out of the way quickly," and the authenticity of how you > have lived/practiced OpenSpace. I love it when I do it. > > Not all of us have your confidence, clarity or competence in all situations > to trust ourselves, in an organization we may live/work in and/or the > process in a room potentially filled with bureaucrats, whose shadow can slow > down the speed of large group movement. > > Whether my approach is a cop out to the OS process, my Kathie Dannemiller > lessons about Design Teams has helped me to usually make the process > consciously the participants' process. > > > > Scott > > > > On Wed, Jul 10, 2013 at 1:30 PM, Harrison Owen <hho...@verizon.net> wrote: > > Scott - I guess I really have a different take. I have never seen any reason > to "plant" topics, or emplace "spark plugs." In every situation with large > groups in my experience (my largest was 2108 J) - the people do it all by > themselves, just like usual. If anything the action is faster, and more > furious with a large group. Once it rolls, it really rolls. You just got to > get out of the way quickly - which is why I would make sure the opening was > fast and sweet. Once person (facilitator) only - and on with the show! Of > course the "necessary conditions" must be in place (real business issue, > complexity, diversity, passion, conflict, urgency) - and from there on out > the only thing you need to do is sit in a circle, create bulletin board, > open market place - and go to work. Nothing else needed. > > > > Harrison > > > > Harrison Owen > > 7808 River Falls Dr. > > Potomac, MD 20854 > > USA > > > > 189 Beaucaire Ave. (summer) > > Camden, Maine 04843 > > > > Phone 301-365-2093 > > (summer) 207-763-3261 > > > > www.openspaceworld.com <http://www.openspaceworld.com%20> > > www.ho-image.com <http://www.ho-image.com%20> (Personal Website) > > To subscribe, unsubscribe, change your options, view the archives of OSLIST > Go to:http://lists.openspacetech.org/listinfo.cgi/oslist-openspacetech.org > > > > From: oslist-boun...@lists.openspacetech.org > [mailto:oslist-boun...@lists.openspacetech.org<oslist-boun...@lists.openspacetech.org>] > On Behalf Of Scott Gassman > Sent: Wednesday, July 10, 2013 10:13 AM > To: World wide Open Space Technology email list > Subject: Re: [OSList] 1,000 participants in 4 hours > > > > Hi Sharon Joy, > > > > Thanks for sharing your opportunity and provoking our experience and > imagination. > > Lisa has given you great tips, great food for thought. For me the joy of a > laid back > > OS alters when I must manage tighter time frames, larger numbers and > logistics. I > > want people to see what they can get done when they are focused and led > through > > well planned OS tasks. > > I think about the outcome/purpose the client/group wants to walk away with. > I try to > > get clear on their goal(s)/desired outcomes. I am fond of design teams > preceding > > any large group initiative. I would bring together 5 to 10 vertically > positioned > > influencers as soon as possible and preceding the get together and confirm > sought > > desired outcomes, I would then ask them to brainstorm a list of important > topics > > for this conversation and to rework the list into a vital few examples. I > would also > > encourage this group to recognize the significance of their role and to > serve as > > spark plugs to get the large group moving forward. > > However the session is opened, I would include a design team member or two > to share their > > hopes and aspirations for this meeting, and to briefly share the list of > topics as examples > > for the 1,000 others to raise what matters most to them per the "high > performance > > system"sought. > > > > This is a great opportunity for your government to work together. > > I also look forward to learning about your experience and next steps. > > > > Scott Gassman > > > > > > > > On Tue, Jul 9, 2013 at 8:38 PM, Sharon Joy Chao <sha...@seameo-innotech.org> > wrote: > > Need to figure a way of convening a thousand government people to go through > an exploratory discussion on high performance system, all under 4 hours. > > This happens next week down south in the city of Cebu. The focus is on the > Philippine government service, its performance management system and how it > can be truly essential, responsive and life-giving. > > Gail West, my OS mentor friend, has provided me with some incredible > suggestions on how to proceed and she also advised me to post on OSList. > > Any thoughts on how best to proceed with a cast of thousand in 4 hours time? > > > Maraming Salamat. > > ======================================== > Sharon Joy Berlin Chao > SEAMEO INNOTECH > Commonwealth Avenue, U.P. Diliman, Quezon City > Metro Manila 1101 Philippines > Phone (632) 924-7681, 9267900 > Fax (632) 928-7692 > > > _______________________________________________ > OSList mailing list > To post send emails to OSList@lists.openspacetech.org > To unsubscribe send an email to oslist-le...@lists.openspacetech.org > To subscribe or manage your subscription click below: > http://lists.openspacetech.org/listinfo.cgi/oslist-openspacetech.org > > > > > > > > -- > Scott Gassman > IdeaJuice > (917) 951 - 0258 > scott.gass...@gmail.com > www.ideajuices.com > > America Speaks on Scott: > http://americaspeaks.org/facilitator-spotlight/spotlight-on-scott-gassman/ > > > _______________________________________________ > OSList mailing list > To post send emails to OSList@lists.openspacetech.org > To unsubscribe send an email to oslist-le...@lists.openspacetech.org > To subscribe or manage your subscription click below: > http://lists.openspacetech.org/listinfo.cgi/oslist-openspacetech.org > > > > > > > > -- > Scott Gassman > IdeaJuice > (917) 951 - 0258 > scott.gass...@gmail.com > www.ideajuices.com > > America Speaks on Scott: > http://americaspeaks.org/facilitator-spotlight/spotlight-on-scott-gassman/ > > > > > _______________________________________________ > OSList mailing list > To post send emails to OSList@lists.openspacetech.org > To unsubscribe send an email to oslist-le...@lists.openspacetech.org > To subscribe or manage your subscription click below: > http://lists.openspacetech.org/listinfo.cgi/oslist-openspacetech.org > > > > > > > > -- > Scott Gassman > IdeaJuice > (917) 951 - 0258 > scott.gass...@gmail.com > www.ideajuices.com > > America Speaks on Scott: > http://americaspeaks.org/facilitator-spotlight/spotlight-on-scott-gassman/ > > > > > -------------- next part -------------- > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > URL: < > http://lists.openspacetech.org/pipermail/oslist-openspacetech.org/attachments/20130711/8733c75c/attachment-0001.htm > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 11 > Date: Thu, 11 Jul 2013 14:38:15 +0200 > From: Lise Damkj?r <l...@learning4life.dk> > To: oslist@lists.openspacetech.org > Subject: Re: [OSList] open space in jeeps > Message-ID: <51dea737.2070...@learning4life.dk> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed > > Hey K?ri > > I really like your idea - I certainly would like to enjoy Iceland and do > an open space at the same time - lot of fun with the jeeps as well I think. > > I hope your idea will grow and become thrue one day... > > Lise, Copenhagen > > Den 11-07-2013 10:04, K?ri Gunnarsson skrev: > > I been wondering for a few years if anyone here has ever attempted to > > host a moving open space. > > > > If you are booking Iceland for your open space, then perhaps it would > > be fun to see some sites and have discussion on the road. In my > > extended family we have a tradition that every 3 years we meet for a > > road trip. This road trip covers a short distance and is like an open > > space. for we drive for 5 to 15 minutes and then we stop for an hour > > in different locations where the power of the coffee brake takes over > > and people gather to talk about what needs to be talked about. This > > year we had 85 people in 20 jeeps driving around and mixing up the > > groups every time. If discussion was not done, then it would continue > > in the new place, the arrangement of people in jeeps was also > > changeable based on what we needed to talk about. Even with the > > possibly bad whether we can do this, as we all have nice clothing that > > protects us from rain, snow and wind. If it rains then we keep our > > papers in the jeeps. > > > > Open Space meeting in jeeps on the road has the problem of > > impermanence of space, as we are driving around. Any wall space would > > need to be virtual. We already have good place markers that we take > > with us, that is the jeeps them selves, as a different discussion > > group can form next to jeep A or B. The time slots would be the place > > names of the sites that we visit. Like "Jeep B at Geysir" would be a > > group convening next to jeep B whenever we are next at the Geysir > > site. > > > > The traditional site seeing in groups is usually hosted with a site > > guide that dumps to much information in to short of a time and hurries > > along so most of the people become to tiered to talk about other > > maters. This must be avoided, but we can still have some light and > > informative information of the sites by use of the comm system in the > > jeeps while approaching the sites. We can also tag along and enjoy the > > sites while conversing with our groups by giving a little more time, I > > would recommend to take a step out of the discussion to take in the > > site and revive the power of the pure nature to fuel the spiritual > > dimension of the discussion. > > > > In my experiences, the energies and dimensions of a group of jeep > > traveling have almost all the parts that can be used for a good open > > space practice. The only missing part would be the wall that would > > need to be implemented virtually with tablet or smart phone > > application usable with an in jeep wifi / G4 system. > > > > There are two major factors that drive me to these thoughts, one is > > that the nature is marvels and it is a shame to be stuck in a building > > when we can be traveling. And the other factor is that I like groups > > to come to my small country for experiencing these marvels while going > > on with the business that matters. > > > > Any experiences, thoughts, opportunities or comments are welcome. > > _______________________________________________ > > OSList mailing list > > To post send emails to OSList@lists.openspacetech.org > > To unsubscribe send an email to oslist-le...@lists.openspacetech.org > > To subscribe or manage your subscription click below: > > http://lists.openspacetech.org/listinfo.cgi/oslist-openspacetech.org > > > > > > ----- > > Ingen virus fundet i denne meddelelse. > > Kontrolleret af AVG - www.avg.com > > Version: 2013.0.3349 / Virusdatabase: 3204/6478 - Udgivelsesdato: > 09-07-2013 > > > > > > > -- > Lise Damkj?r > Learning4life > T: +45 2949 9636 > L4L.dk > Projektlederspillet.com > Kan du skabe 30% ekstra v?rdi i projektet > ved at arbejde systematisk med flow? > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 12 > Date: Thu, 11 Jul 2013 06:33:30 -0700 (PDT) > From: chunili2...@yahoo.com > To: World wide Open Space Technology email list > <oslist@lists.openspacetech.org> > Subject: Re: [OSList] 1,000 participants in 4 hours > Message-ID: > <1373549610.36618.yahoomail...@web120601.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" > > Interesting discussion... > Scott, you said: "I want the organizational team to discover and I also > want to have them have those first few steps of how to get going on their > own.?" What do THEY want? > ? > I guess a fundamental message that needs to be clearly conveyed?from the > outset?is who's responsible for the outcomes of the meeting? If you are, > and so communicated, I can see your desire to make sure certain things > happen...but if they are, and agree to it, then you are simply providing an > environment that allows them to be their own leaders and be responsible for > their?own passions. If things don't turn out to their satisfaction, there > is something to be learned?about themselves. > ? > I would focus the planning on the logistics so that the least amount of > time is wasted. > ? > ? > ? > Chuni Li > ? > > ? > From: Scott Gassman <scott.gass...@gmail.com> > To: World wide Open Space Technology email list < > oslist@lists.openspacetech.org> > Sent: Wednesday, July 10, 2013 8:47 PM > Subject: Re: [OSList] 1,000 participants in 4 hours > > > > Harrison, > > I am going to print these paragraphs of yours and think about the "ZERO > confidence," "about what is going on."? > That's ?good ?material for me to think about as I approach future group > work.? > I am touched by your Kathie story. ?Kathie's respect for you came out in a > conversation and made me want to learn Open Space, and so she really > steered me towards learning with you and Lisa up in Maine. I do remember > you leaving to take a nap and me scratching my head - how - in the middle, > can you let go? I guess until now I dance between the freedom of Open Space > and joint?design team?sharing that anchors me to do as much as I can to > support the group and deliver a quick start. ?I want the organizational team > to discover and I also want to have them have those first few steps of how > to get going on their own.? > I think of it as pushing a kid on a 2 wheel bicycle, also "out of control," > aiming to get them to keep pedaling ?and stay up. > > Here's my honesty to you, Sharon Joy. > > Scott > > > On Wed, Jul 10, 2013 at 6:06 PM, Harrison Owen <hho...@verizon.net> wrote: > > Scott said ? ?Not all of us have your (that?s me ? HO) confidence, clarity > or competence in all situations to trust ourselves, in an organization we > may live/work in and/or the process in a room potentially filled with > bureaucrats, whose shadow can slow down the speed of large group movement.?? > >? > >Nice words, Scott ? but once again I have a different take. Truth is I > have ZERO confidence, to say nothing of clarity, in my ?competence in all > situations to trust (my)ourselves, in an organization we may live/work in > and/or the process in a room potentially filled with bureaucrats, whose > shadow can slow down the speed of large group movement.? Quite to the > contrary, ?I know totally and completely that I will NEVER have a real clue > about what is going on. Too complex, inter-related, fast moving, opaque... > BUT the people do. My only responsibility (possibility) is to invite them > to do what only they know how to do ? and then, as quickly as possible, get > out of the way. Usually to take a napJ > >? > >And Kathie Dannemiller was a special person and a friend. I respect her > greatly. And... somebody once asked her why, given what she did, she didn?t > use Open Space. Her reply, as I heard it, was ? ?I?d be terrified ... it > could get out of control.? The big secret, of course, was that she (as we > all are) was always out of control ? so there was nothing to lose. > >Harrison > >? > >? > >? > >Harrison Owen > >7808 River Falls Dr. > >Potomac, MD 20854 > >USA > >? > >189 Beaucaire Ave. (summer) > >Camden, Maine 04843 > >? > >Phone 301-365-2093 > >(summer)? 207-763-3261 > >? > >www.openspaceworld.com > >www.ho-image.com (Personal Website) > >To subscribe, unsubscribe, change your options, view the archives of > OSLIST Go to: > http://lists.openspacetech.org/listinfo.cgi/oslist-openspacetech.org > >? > >From:oslist-boun...@lists.openspacetech.org [ > mailto:oslist-boun...@lists.openspacetech.org<oslist-boun...@lists.openspacetech.org>] > On Behalf Of Scott Gassman > >Sent: Wednesday, July 10, 2013 5:01 PM > > > >To: World wide Open Space Technology email list > >Subject: Re: [OSList] 1,000 participants in 4 hours > >? > >Hi Harrison, > >? > >Glad you responded, Sharon gets to think deeper about how to proceed and > be hopefully clearer about her design decisions. > >I clearly hear "get out of the way quickly,"?and the authenticity of how > you have lived/practiced OpenSpace. I love it when I do it. > >Not all of us have your confidence, clarity or competence in all > situations to trust ourselves, in an organization we may live/work in > and/or the process in a room potentially filled with bureaucrats, whose > shadow can slow down the speed of large group movement.? > >Whether my approach is a cop out to the OS process, my Kathie Dannemiller > lessons about Design Teams has helped me to usually make the process > consciously the participants' process. > >? > >Scott > >? > >On Wed, Jul 10, 2013 at 1:30 PM, Harrison Owen <hho...@verizon.net> wrote: > >Scott ? I guess I really have a different take. I have never seen any > reason to ?plant? topics, or emplace ?spark plugs.? In every situation with > large groups in my experience (my largest was 2108 J) ? the people do it > all by themselves, just like usual. If anything the action is faster, and > more furious with a large group. Once it rolls, it really rolls. You just > got to get out of the way quickly ? which is why I would make sure the > opening was fast and sweet. Once person (facilitator) only ? and on with the > show! Of course the ?necessary conditions? must be in place (real business > issue, complexity, diversity, passion, conflict, urgency) ? and from there > on out the only thing you need to do is sit in a circle, create bulletin > board, open market place ? and go to work. Nothing else needed. > >? > >Harrison > >? > >Harrison Owen > >7808 River Falls Dr. > >Potomac, MD 20854 > >USA > >? > >189 Beaucaire Ave. (summer) > >Camden, Maine 04843 > >? > >Phone 301-365-2093 > >(summer)? 207-763-3261 > >? > >http://www.openspaceworld.com%20/ > >http://www.ho-image.com%20/ (Personal Website) > >To subscribe, unsubscribe, change your options, view the archives of > OSLIST Go to: > http://lists.openspacetech.org/listinfo.cgi/oslist-openspacetech.org > >? > >From:oslist-boun...@lists.openspacetech.org [ > mailto:oslist-boun...@lists.openspacetech.org<oslist-boun...@lists.openspacetech.org>] > On Behalf Of Scott Gassman > >Sent: Wednesday, July 10, 2013 10:13 AM > >To: World wide Open Space Technology email list > >Subject: Re: [OSList] 1,000 participants in 4 hours > >? > >Hi Sharon Joy, > >? > >Thanks for sharing your opportunity and provoking our experience and > imagination. > >Lisa has given you great tips, great food for thought. For me the joy of a > laid back? > >OS alters when I must manage tighter time frames, larger numbers and > logistics. I? > >want people to?see what they can get done when they are focused and led > through? > >well planned OS tasks.? > >I think about the?outcome/purpose the client/group wants to walk away > with. I try to? > >get clear on their?goal(s)/desired outcomes. I am fond of design teams > preceding? > >any large group initiative. I would bring together 5 to 10 vertically > positioned? > >influencers as soon as possible and preceding the get together and confirm > sought? > >desired outcomes, I would then ask them to brainstorm a list of important > topics > >for this conversation and to rework the list into a vital few examples. I > would also? > >encourage this group to recognize the significance of their role and to > serve as? > >spark plugs to get the large group moving forward. > >However the session is opened, I would include a design team member or two > to share their? > >hopes and aspirations for this meeting, and to briefly share the list of > topics as examples? > >for the 1,000 others to raise what matters most to them per the "high > performance? > >system"sought. > >? > >This is a great opportunity for your government to work together. > >I also look forward to learning about your experience and next steps. > >? > >Scott Gassman > >? > >? > >? > >On Tue, Jul 9, 2013 at 8:38 PM, Sharon Joy Chao <sha...@seameo-innotech.org> > wrote: > >Need to figure a way of convening a thousand government people to go > through an exploratory discussion on high performance system, all under 4 > hours. > > > >This happens next week down south in the city of Cebu. The focus is on the > Philippine government service, its performance management system and how it > can be truly essential, responsive and life-giving. > > > >Gail West, my OS mentor friend, has provided me with some incredible > suggestions on how to proceed and she also advised me to post on OSList. > > > >Any thoughts on how best to proceed with a cast of thousand in 4 hours > time? > > > >Maraming Salamat. > > > >======================================== > >Sharon Joy Berlin Chao > >SEAMEO INNOTECH > >Commonwealth Avenue, U.P. Diliman, Quezon City > >Metro Manila 1101 Philippines > >Phone (632) 924-7681, 9267900 > >Fax (632) 928-7692 > > > > > >_______________________________________________ > >OSList mailing list > >To post send emails to OSList@lists.openspacetech.org > >To unsubscribe send an email to oslist-le...@lists.openspacetech.org > >To subscribe or manage your subscription click below: > >http://lists.openspacetech.org/listinfo.cgi/oslist-openspacetech.org > > > > > > > >? > >-- > >Scott Gassman > >IdeaJuice > >(917) 951 - 0258 > >scott.gass...@gmail.com > >http://www.ideajuices.com/ > > > >America Speaks on Scott:? > http://americaspeaks.org/facilitator-spotlight/spotlight-on-scott-gassman/ > > > > > > > >_______________________________________________ > >OSList mailing list > >To post send emails to OSList@lists.openspacetech.org > >To unsubscribe send an email to oslist-le...@lists.openspacetech.org > >To subscribe or manage your subscription click below: > >http://lists.openspacetech.org/listinfo.cgi/oslist-openspacetech.org > > > > > > > >? > >-- > >Scott Gassman > >IdeaJuice > >(917) 951 - 0258 > >scott.gass...@gmail.com > >http://www.ideajuices.com/ > > > >America Speaks on Scott:? > http://americaspeaks.org/facilitator-spotlight/spotlight-on-scott-gassman/ > > > > > > > >_______________________________________________ > >OSList mailing list > >To post send emails to OSList@lists.openspacetech.org > >To unsubscribe send an email to oslist-le...@lists.openspacetech.org > >To subscribe or manage your subscription click below: > >http://lists.openspacetech.org/listinfo.cgi/oslist-openspacetech.org > > > > > > > -- > Scott Gassman > IdeaJuice > (917) 951 - 0258 > scott.gass...@gmail.com > http://www.ideajuices.com/ > > America Speaks on Scott:? > http://americaspeaks.org/facilitator-spotlight/spotlight-on-scott-gassman/ > > > > > _______________________________________________ > OSList mailing list > To post send emails to OSList@lists.openspacetech.org > To unsubscribe send an email to oslist-le...@lists.openspacetech.org > To subscribe or manage your subscription click below: > http://lists.openspacetech.org/listinfo.cgi/oslist-openspacetech.org > -------------- next part -------------- > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > URL: < > http://lists.openspacetech.org/pipermail/oslist-openspacetech.org/attachments/20130711/4b5e3e29/attachment-0001.htm > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 13 > Date: Thu, 11 Jul 2013 19:38:20 +0200 > From: Lourdes Adriana Diaz-Berrio Doring <adri...@diazberrio.com> > To: chunili2...@yahoo.com, World wide Open Space Technology email list > <oslist@lists.openspacetech.org> > Subject: Re: [OSList] 1,000 participants in 4 hours > Message-ID: > <can5fctqqwl58tg5ji_v0jsgfke6upg-1f5karxu5hnrkv3h...@mail.gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="windows-1252" > > Hello: Responding to the question about an OS for a large group but e few > hours I agree with Lisa and I want to say that yes it is very importqnt to > have a lot os space for the agenda. I had 320 participants last week and > this was a problem because they had problems getting to the wall to read. > For the closing circle they helped put the chairs back in circles and I > just took a few interventions but it was really interesting! > > Adriana > > 2013/7/11 <chunili2...@yahoo.com> > > > Interesting discussion... > > Scott, you said: "I want the organizational team to discover and I also > > want to have them have those first few steps of how to get going on their > > own. " What do THEY want? > > > > I guess a fundamental message that needs to be clearly conveyed from the > > outset is who's responsible for the outcomes of the meeting? If you are, > > and so communicated, I can see your desire to make sure certain things > > happen...but if they are, and agree to it, then you are simply providing > an > > environment that allows them to be their own leaders and be responsible > for > > their own passions. If things don't turn out to their satisfaction, there > > is something to be learned about themselves. > > > > I would focus the planning on the logistics so that the least amount of > > time is wasted. > > > > > > > > Chuni Li > > > > > > > > *From:* Scott Gassman <scott.gass...@gmail.com> > > *To:* World wide Open Space Technology email list < > > oslist@lists.openspacetech.org> > > *Sent:* Wednesday, July 10, 2013 8:47 PM > > *Subject:* Re: [OSList] 1,000 participants in 4 hours > > > > Harrison, > > > > I am going to print these paragraphs of yours and think about the "ZERO > > confidence," "about what is going on." > > That's good material for me to think about as I approach future group > > work. > > I am touched by your Kathie story. Kathie's respect for you came out in a > > conversation and made me want to learn Open Space, and so she really > > steered me towards learning with you and Lisa up in Maine. I do remember > > you leaving to take a nap and me scratching my head - how - in the middle, > > can you let go? I guess until now I dance between the freedom of Open > Space > > and joint design team sharing that anchors me to do as much as I can to > > support the group and deliver a quick start. I want the organizational > > team to discover and I also want to have them have those first few steps > of > > how to get going on their own. > > I think of it as pushing a kid on a 2 wheel bicycle, also "out of > > control," aiming to get them to keep pedaling and stay up. > > > > Here's my honesty to you, Sharon Joy. > > > > Scott > > > > On Wed, Jul 10, 2013 at 6:06 PM, Harrison Owen <hho...@verizon.net> wrote: > > > > Scott said ? ?Not all of us have your (that?s me ? HO) confidence, > > clarity or competence in all situations to trust ourselves, in an > > organization we may live/work in and/or the process in a room potentially > > filled with bureaucrats, whose shadow can slow down the speed of large > > group movement.? **** > > ** ** > > Nice words, Scott ? but once again I have a different take. Truth is I > > have ZERO confidence, to say nothing of clarity, in my ?competence in all > > situations to trust (my)ourselves, in an organization we may live/work in > > and/or the process in a room potentially filled with bureaucrats, whose > > shadow can slow down the speed of large group movement.? Quite to the > > contrary, I know totally and completely that I will NEVER have a real > clue > > about what is going on. Too complex, inter-related, fast moving, opaque... > > BUT the people do. My only responsibility (possibility) is to invite them > > to do what only they know how to do ? and then, as quickly as possible, > get > > out of the way. Usually to take a napJ**** > > ** ** > > And Kathie Dannemiller was a special person and a friend. I respect her > > greatly. And... somebody once asked her why, given what she did, she > didn?t > > use Open Space. Her reply, as I heard it, was ? ?I?d be terrified ... it > > could get out of control.? The big secret, of course, was that she (as we > > all are) was always out of control ? so there was nothing to lose.**** > > **** > > Harrison**** > > ** ** > > ** ** > > ** ** > > Harrison Owen**** > > 7808 River Falls Dr.**** > > Potomac, MD 20854**** > > USA**** > > ** ** > > 189 Beaucaire Ave. (summer)**** > > Camden, Maine 04843**** > > ** ** > > Phone 301-365-2093**** > > (summer) 207-763-3261**** > > ** ** > > www.openspaceworld.com <http://www.openspaceworld.com%20/> **** > > www.ho-image.com <http://www.ho-image.com%20/> (Personal Website)**** > > To subscribe, unsubscribe, change your options, view the archives of > > OSLIST Go to: > > http://lists.openspacetech.org/listinfo.cgi/oslist-openspacetech.org**** > > ** ** > > *From:* oslist-boun...@lists.openspacetech.org [mailto: > > oslist-boun...@lists.openspacetech.org] *On Behalf Of *Scott Gassman > > *Sent:* Wednesday, July 10, 2013 5:01 PM > > > > *To:* World wide Open Space Technology email list > > *Subject:* Re: [OSList] 1,000 participants in 4 hours**** > > ** ** > > Hi Harrison,**** > > ** ** > > Glad you responded, Sharon gets to think deeper about how to proceed and > > be hopefully clearer about her design decisions.**** > > I clearly hear "get out of the way quickly," and the authenticity of how > > you have lived/practiced OpenSpace. I love it when I do it.**** > > Not all of us have your confidence, clarity or competence in all > > situations to trust ourselves, in an organization we may live/work in > > and/or the process in a room potentially filled with bureaucrats, whose > > shadow can slow down the speed of large group movement. **** > > Whether my approach is a cop out to the OS process, my Kathie > Dannemillerlessons about Design Teams has helped me to usually make the > process > > consciously the participants' process.**** > > ** ** > > Scott**** > > ** ** > > On Wed, Jul 10, 2013 at 1:30 PM, Harrison Owen <hho...@verizon.net> > > wrote:**** > > Scott ? I guess I really have a different take. I have never seen any > > reason to ?plant? topics, or emplace ?spark plugs.? In every situation > > with large groups in my experience (my largest was 2108 J) ? the people > > do it all by themselves, just like usual. If anything the action is > faster, > > and more furious with a large group. Once it rolls, it really rolls. You > > just got to get out of the way quickly ? which is why I would make sure > the > > opening was fast and sweet. Once person (facilitator) only ? and on with > > the show! Of course the ?necessary conditions? must be in place (real > > business issue, complexity, diversity, passion, conflict, urgency) ? and > > from there on out the only thing you need to do is sit in a circle, create > > bulletin board, open market place ? and go to work. Nothing else needed.** > > ** > > **** > > Harrison**** > > **** > > Harrison Owen**** > > 7808 River Falls Dr.**** > > Potomac, MD 20854**** > > USA**** > > **** > > 189 Beaucaire Ave. (summer)**** > > Camden, Maine 04843**** > > **** > > Phone 301-365-2093**** > > (summer) 207-763-3261**** > > **** > > http://www.openspaceworld.com%20/ **** > > http://www.ho-image.com%20/ (Personal Website)**** > > To subscribe, unsubscribe, change your options, view the archives of > > OSLIST Go to: > > http://lists.openspacetech.org/listinfo.cgi/oslist-openspacetech.org**** > > **** > > *From:* oslist-boun...@lists.openspacetech.org [mailto: > > oslist-boun...@lists.openspacetech.org] *On Behalf Of *Scott Gassman > > *Sent:* Wednesday, July 10, 2013 10:13 AM > > *To:* World wide Open Space Technology email list > > *Subject:* Re: [OSList] 1,000 participants in 4 hours**** > > **** > > Hi Sharon Joy,**** > > **** > > Thanks for sharing your opportunity and provoking our experience and > > imagination.**** > > Lisa has given you great tips, great food for thought. For me the joy of > > a laid back **** > > OS alters when I must manage tighter time frames, larger numbers and > > logistics. I **** > > want people to see what they can get done when they are focused and led > > through **** > > well planned OS tasks. **** > > I think about the outcome/purpose the client/group wants to walk away > > with. I try to **** > > get clear on their goal(s)/desired outcomes. I am fond of design teams > > preceding **** > > any large group initiative. I would bring together 5 to 10 vertically > > positioned **** > > influencers as soon as possible and preceding the get together and > > confirm sought **** > > desired outcomes, I would then ask them to brainstorm a list of > > important topics**** > > for this conversation and to rework the list into a vital few examples. > > I would also **** > > encourage this group to recognize the significance of their role and to > > serve as **** > > spark plugs to get the large group moving forward.**** > > However the session is opened, I would include a design team member or > > two to share their **** > > hopes and aspirations for this meeting, and to briefly share the list of > > topics as examples **** > > for the 1,000 others to raise what matters most to them per the "high > > performance **** > > system"sought.**** > > **** > > This is a great opportunity for your government to work together.**** > > I also look forward to learning about your experience and next steps.**** > > **** > > Scott Gassman**** > > **** > > **** > > **** > > On Tue, Jul 9, 2013 at 8:38 PM, Sharon Joy Chao < > > sha...@seameo-innotech.org> wrote:**** > > Need to figure a way of convening a thousand government people to go > > through an exploratory discussion on high performance system, all under 4 > > hours. > > > > This happens next week down south in the city of Cebu. The focus is on the > > Philippine government service, its performance management system and how > it > > can be truly essential, responsive and life-giving. > > > > Gail West, my OS mentor friend, has provided me with some incredible > > suggestions on how to proceed and she also advised me to post on OSList. > > > > Any thoughts on how best to proceed with a cast of thousand in 4 hours > > time? > > > > Maraming Salamat. > > > > ======================================== > > Sharon Joy Berlin Chao > > SEAMEO INNOTECH > > Commonwealth Avenue, U.P. Diliman, Quezon City > > Metro Manila 1101 Philippines > > Phone (632) 924-7681, 9267900 > > Fax (632) 928-7692 > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > OSList mailing list > > To post send emails to OSList@lists.openspacetech.org > > To unsubscribe send an email to oslist-le...@lists.openspacetech.org > > To subscribe or manage your subscription click below: > > http://lists.openspacetech.org/listinfo.cgi/oslist-openspacetech.org**** > > > > > > **** > > **** > > -- > > Scott Gassman > > IdeaJuice > > (917) 951 - 0258 > > scott.gass...@gmail.com > > http://www.ideajuices.com/ > > > > America Speaks on Scott: > > http://americaspeaks.org/facilitator-spotlight/spotlight-on-scott-gassman/ > > > > **** > > > > _______________________________________________ > > OSList mailing list > > To post send emails to OSList@lists.openspacetech.org > > To unsubscribe send an email to oslist-le...@lists.openspacetech.org > > To subscribe or manage your subscription click below: > > http://lists.openspacetech.org/listinfo.cgi/oslist-openspacetech.org**** > > > > > > **** > > ** ** > > -- > > Scott Gassman > > IdeaJuice > > (917) 951 - 0258 > > scott.gass...@gmail.com > > http://www.ideajuices.com/ > > > > America Speaks on Scott: > > http://americaspeaks.org/facilitator-spotlight/spotlight-on-scott-gassman/ > > > > > > **** > > > > _______________________________________________ > > OSList mailing list > > To post send emails to OSList@lists.openspacetech.org > > To unsubscribe send an email to oslist-le...@lists.openspacetech.org > > To subscribe or manage your subscription click below: > > http://lists.openspacetech.org/listinfo.cgi/oslist-openspacetech.org > > > > > > > > > > -- > > Scott Gassman > > IdeaJuice > > (917) 951 - 0258 > > scott.gass...@gmail.com > > http://www.ideajuices.com/ > > > > America Speaks on Scott: > > http://americaspeaks.org/facilitator-spotlight/spotlight-on-scott-gassman/ > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > OSList mailing list > > To post send emails to OSList@lists.openspacetech.org > > To unsubscribe send an email to oslist-le...@lists.openspacetech.org > > To subscribe or manage your subscription click below: > > http://lists.openspacetech.org/listinfo.cgi/oslist-openspacetech.org > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > OSList mailing list > > To post send emails to OSList@lists.openspacetech.org > > To unsubscribe send an email to oslist-le...@lists.openspacetech.org > > To subscribe or manage your subscription click below: > > http://lists.openspacetech.org/listinfo.cgi/oslist-openspacetech.org > > > > > > > -- > > Adriana D?az-Berrio Ph.D. CRHA > (514) 739 2268 > www.diazberrio.com > -------------- next part -------------- > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > URL: < > http://lists.openspacetech.org/pipermail/oslist-openspacetech.org/attachments/20130711/ccab55ff/attachment-0001.htm > > > > ------------------------------ > > _______________________________________________ > OSList mailing list > To post send emails to OSList@lists.openspacetech.org > To unsubscribe send an email to oslist-le...@lists.openspacetech.org > To subscribe or manage your subscription click below: > http://lists.openspacetech.org/listinfo.cgi/oslist-openspacetech.org > > > End of OSList Digest, Vol 29, Issue 7 > ************************************* > > > _______________________________________________ > OSList mailing list > To post send emails to OSList@lists.openspacetech.org > To unsubscribe send an email to oslist-le...@lists.openspacetech.org > To subscribe or manage your subscription click below: > http://lists.openspacetech.org/listinfo.cgi/oslist-openspacetech.org > > > > > -- > Suzanne Daigle > NuFocus Strategic Group > 7159 Victoria Circle > University Park, FL 34201 > FL 941-359-8877; > CT 203-722-2009 > www.nufocusgroup.com > s.dai...@nufocusgroup.com > twitter @suzannedaigle > -------------- next part -------------- > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > URL: > <http://lists.openspacetech.org/pipermail/oslist-openspacetech.org/attachments/20130713/a19ec473/attachment.html> > > ------------------------------ > > _______________________________________________ > OSList mailing list > To post send emails to OSList@lists.openspacetech.org > To unsubscribe send an email to oslist-le...@lists.openspacetech.org > To subscribe or manage your subscription click below: > http://lists.openspacetech.org/listinfo.cgi/oslist-openspacetech.org > > > End of OSList Digest, Vol 29, Issue 12 > ************************************** > > _______________________________________________ > OSList mailing list > To post send emails to OSList@lists.openspacetech.org > To unsubscribe send an email to oslist-le...@lists.openspacetech.org > To subscribe or manage your subscription click below: > http://lists.openspacetech.org/listinfo.cgi/oslist-openspacetech.org
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