Dear Gray,
your note wound up in my spam folder, it did not reach me as notes to our LISTSERVE usually do. It did show up in the ARCHIVES but without the body of the note (this was the case also for a couple of mails from spark in this same string).
Perhaps our keeper can bring light into this.

I have been spared the experience of facilitating an os event parallel to other types of gatherings. My assumption is that sponsors simply knew better than to ask me, having heard of my tender ego!

In any case, I would have probably said: Have a look at page 35.

Have a great day
mmp

On 25.04.2014 16:53, Gray Miller wrote:
I have to echo that. The problem, cynically speaking, is that people are
lazy. Given a choice between "make your own" or "let us make it for
you," the majority will go with the safe and "normal" agenda. Mind you,
the few that choose the OS have an incredible time-but others see it as
uncertainty, or work (because it is).

I have done a few OS before or after a "regular" con, and you still
can't win-people will complain that it was either a waste of time or
that it should have been the whole time. But I won't do a concurrent OS
with a regular scheduled conference. It's just not worth it for me.



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On Fri, Apr 25, 2014 at 6:57 AM -0700, "Harrison Owen"
<hho...@verizon.net <mailto:hho...@verizon.net>> wrote:

    Dan – Bearing some responsibility for The User’s Guide” I can say,
    without equivocation, that it ain’t a cook book. Not even close. But
    it did/does represent the experience of the time as filtered through
    my ears and eyeballs. That said, it must also be stated that our
    experience is continuing and changing (we are learning something)
    and my ears and eyeballs are anything but perfect.

    So would I run parallel tracks? Probably not simply because every
    time I have tried the experience was less than the best. I thought.
    The Open Space part was sort of diffuse, and clearly lacked the
    punch so often experienced. And I thought the rest of the program
    (other tracks) suffered as well. People treated formal
    lectures/presentations like Open Space which was disconcerting, to
    say the least, for some of the presenters. Actually, I rather
    enjoyed what happened, but then a formal lecture/presentation has to
    be really, really good before it equals a regular Open Space in
    terms of impact, communication and Zip – My experience.  So for the
    benefit of the sponsor I always suggest that when you do Open Space
    – Do it. If you want something else – Do That. But don’t mix them
    up. Confusing, at least for me.

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    *Subject:* [OSList] "Parallel" Open Space at XP2014 Rome?

    Open Space includes a theme, and proceedings. It also asks that no
    other events be going on at the same time.


    That’s why the XP2014 event in Rome gives me pause. Someone here
    mentioned that this event is offering a “parallel Open Space”. Wow.
    Is that right?


    The last time I checked, the Open Space User’s Guide warned against
    doing this. It warns against running anything else /while the Open
    Space event is going on/. And that’s what makes me wonder about the
    so-called XP2014 “parallel Open Space” event.

    To investigate you can examine this link, which shows the schedule:

    http://www.xp2014.org/program/

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