Re: [OSList] OSList Digest, Vol 44, Issue 22

[Anne Stadler via OSList]

Infrastructure in OS

Yes! Peggy. I've observed that people always build infrastructure, tacit as 
well as formal.  

To me OS infrastructure serves flow.  Flow happens when resonance within me 
(the participant) (what i care about/love) connects with resonance within you 
and innerly with the resonating meme in the transfinite field. Hence the Law of 
Two Feet (as i interpret it) "take responsibility (or follow) for what you care 
about/love." And the principles of OS remind you how to make it easy on 
yourself; while the minimal patterns require little interpretation because 
they're self evident, natural human patterns of gathering and distribution.

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>   1. Re: Private vs Public OST Differences? (John Baxter via OSList)
>   2. Patterns of OST - to whom is this of interest?
>      (John Baxter via OSList)
>   3. Re: Patterns of OST - to whom is this of interest?
>      (Chris Corrigan via OSList)
>   4. Re: Authority in Open Space - "All Open Space"
>      (John Baxter via OSList)
>   5. Re: Private vs Public OST Differences? (Daniel Mezick via OSList)
>   6. Re: Private vs Public OST Differences? (Michael Herman via OSList)
>   7. Re: Authority in Open Space - "All Open Space"
>      (Daniel Mezick via OSList)
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> From: John Baxter via OSList <oslist@lists.openspacetech.org>
> To: Peggy Holman <pe...@peggyholman.com>,    World wide Open Space
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> Amen to the infrastructure you talk of Peggy.
> 
> I think of an OST gathering as really just a piece of infrastructure in an
> ongoing social field (an open space if you will), and it is perfectly
> reasonable to wonder whether other infrastructures can not also (or
> alternatively) serve the ongoing space - especially facilitating
> information flows.
> 
> 
> *John Baxter*
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> On Fri, Oct 17, 2014 at 2:54 AM, Peggy Holman via OSList <
> oslist@lists.openspacetech.org> wrote:
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>> Michael,
>> 
>> Yes! You captured the dynamics I've experienced with public events
>> beautifully! The call of the invitation that doesn't seem to say anything
>> specific but people say I know I need to be there.
>> 
>> And the proceedings on the side of the desk. It speaks to the way I think
>> about the role of infrastructure for public events.
>> 
>> To your comment:
>> 
>> which makes me wonder if the work in public spaces is not so much about
>> building infrastructure, which people can easily build for themselves and
>> also already exists in many ways, but rather finding ways to point out over
>> and over again through the event that the work of participants does not end
>> with the closing.
>> 
>> 
>> I go back to my previous message on infrastructure in public settings.
>> Infrastructure that supports connection and makes stories visible can
>> amplify the nature energies that emerge from a public event.
>> 
>> 
>> Peggy
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>> On Oct 16, 2014, at 6:29 AM, Michael Herman via OSList <
>> oslist@lists.openspacetech.org> wrote:
>> 
>> some years ago i facilitated the first illinois food security summit, a
>> public meeting of very diverse group of about 200, convened by a big
>> foundation.  at the end of the event, one of the common reflections heard
>> throughout the space was something like, "i can't believe we didn't know
>> each other already (given that we're all doing such similar work/have
>> similar interests)."  the following year, the two things i heard over and
>> over again were something like "i still have last year's proceedings
>> sitting on the corner of my desk" and "we're all still talking."  i think
>> we have to be careful not to impose internal standards for "action" on more
>> distributed public meeting/working.  having the proceedings (and its
>> priorities and plans) at their fingertips and having so many connections
>> still active was definite progress and was informing all kinds of activity.
>> there just wasn't a "center" working to score that and own it like there
>> would be inside of an organization.  which makes me wonder if the work in
>> public spaces is not so much about building infrastructure, which people
>> can easily build for themselves and also already exists in many ways, but
>> rather finding ways to point out over and over again through the event that
>> the work of participants does not end with the closing.
>> 
>> also, to the challenge of public invitations, we wrote 37 drafts of 6
>> different editions of the invitation to what we called "the giving
>> conference."  the big challenge was that there was very little language
>> shared among the several very different groups/communities of people we
>> wanted to invite.  in the end, people said, "the crazy thing is that i'm
>> here, because the invitation really didn't say ANYTHING, but when i read
>> it, i knew i had to be here."
>> 
>> m
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
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>> Michael Herman
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>> 
>> On Thu, Oct 16, 2014 at 3:07 AM, John Baxter via OSList <
>> oslist@lists.openspacetech.org> wrote:
>> 
>>> Amen to the time consuming nature of "invitations".
>>> 
>>> Of course, if you don't have a discrete list with an established
>>> relationship to each member, the material nature of the activity isn't
>>> "invitation", but marketing and promotion...  I haven't worked on a public
>>> event where the promotion was not the hardest part.
>>> 
>>> Cheers
>>> 
>>> 
>>> *John Baxter*
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>>> 
>>> On Thu, Oct 16, 2014 at 3:31 AM, Peggy Holman via OSList <
>>> oslist@lists.openspacetech.org> wrote:
>>> 
>>>> I?d echo Christine?s observations about infrastructure. So much of that
>>>> is something that you can take for granted in an organization and requires
>>>> some thought when dealing with public settings.
>>>> 
>>>> A couple other distinctions I?ve noticed:
>>>> 
>>>> Organizational events are high context. A calling question is asked
>>>> within an existing culture. That?s both a blessing and a curse. It means
>>>> that there?s much that doesn?t need explaining. And it means there are
>>>> unconscious habits of relating and behaving present. Not bad. Just the
>>>> territory.
>>>> 
>>>> Examples: I was recently with a group that had an internal clock for
>>>> half an hour meetings. It was interesting watching their rhythm shift over
>>>> the course of the Open Space. For that same event, I spent about 10 minutes
>>>> with the leadership team before we started encouraging them to be
>>>> themselves and participate, like everyone else. They bring a unique and
>>>> valuable perspective, as do others. And their voices carry a weight they
>>>> might not appreciate because of their place in the hierarchy. So if they
>>>> found themselves the center of attention, I suggested that it?s a good time
>>>> to ask a question that gives the focus back to the group. Or use the law of
>>>> two feet and go elsewhere.
>>>> 
>>>> Public events don?t have the context of an existing culture. So the
>>>> calling question may have a much wider variation in meaning to people who
>>>> come. And there may be fewer existing relationships and norms. Again, not
>>>> bad. Just different.
>>>> 
>>>> Many years ago I was part of a team that did a public event with a
>>>> calling question so broad that people had multiple interpretations of it.
>>>> The question: *How do we support a movement toward the conscious
>>>> evolution of increasingly conscious social systems? *(See
>>>> http://www.thegreatstory.org/ev-salon2.html). A number of people on
>>>> this list were part of it.  People showed up because they were attracted to
>>>> the hosts or something about the question spoke to them. It was wild, fun,
>>>> and creative. And there was a demand on the second day to hear from the
>>>> organizers what we meant by the question, just for more context.
>>>> 
>>>> The other thing I?ve learned is that the process of invitation can be
>>>> much more intense for public events. In organizations, the bulk of
>>>> participation is internal. While there are certainly issues with ensuring a
>>>> spirit of invitation, who to invite and how to reach them is pretty
>>>> straightforward.
>>>> 
>>>> For public events, I find that if you want a diversity of folks,
>>>> inviting can be the most time consuming activity of all. I did some work
>>>> with the Forest Service years ago to look at the future of the forests in
>>>> the San Bernardino Mountains in California. They were heading into a rough
>>>> fire season, felt they?d done everything they could do to prepare. While
>>>> they had the public?s attention, they wanted to look to the future, 50
>>>> years out. We worked with them to identify the range of people who cared,
>>>> including state, local, federal, and regional government, community
>>>> organizations, chamber of commerce, insurance companies (small, but
>>>> influential), ranchers who leased land in the national forests,
>>>> environmental groups, and on and on. Getting the word out to all these
>>>> folks took some thought.
>>>> 
>>>> Peggy
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
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>>>> 
>>>> On Oct 15, 2014, at 8:43 AM, Christine Whitney Sanchez via OSList <
>>>> oslist@lists.openspacetech.org> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Daniel and all,
>>>> 
>>>> In my experience, public events have the same buzz and meaningful
>>>> results as an in-organization OST.  I?ve facilitated a number of them that
>>>> were sponsored by a group of organizations in the community.  For 
>>>> instance, Vibrant
>>>> Phoenix <http://vibrantphx.com/next-actions/top-ideas/>, was a very
>>>> productive economic development OST, sponsored by two mayors of large
>>>> municipalities and several local businesses.  One of the business sponsors
>>>> agreed to be the contact for folks who wanted to take their ?actionable
>>>> ideas? to the next level.  However, there was no budget and no
>>>> infrastructure to really keep folks connected the the ideas they cared the
>>>> most about.
>>>> 
>>>> This is where the public open spaces generally fall short.  Because the
>>>> ongoing action is not the core mission of any of these organizations, it is
>>>> hoped that the participants will self-organize going forward.  With very
>>>> few exceptions, this does not happen.  I believe that sponsorship for the
>>>> work after the OST is what is called for.
>>>> 
>>>> The Collective Impact
>>>> <http://www.ssireview.org/blog/entry/channeling_change_making_collective_impact_work>
>>>>  model
>>>> speaks to this.  It?s nothing new, really, but does represent a simple way
>>>> to talk about the necessary conditions for sustaining collective action.  I
>>>> now include my version of this model when I talk with potential sponsors to
>>>> shine the light beyond the meeting so that we can discuss their intentions
>>>> for providing backbone support for self-organized action going forward.
>>>> 
>>>> I especially love public Open Space events and look forward to working
>>>> with sponsors who see the meeting as merely the first small step in
>>>> collaborative action.  There is so much potential!
>>>> 
>>>> Warm wishes from a sunny autumn morning in the rain-greened desert,
>>>> 
>>>> Christine
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>>>> 
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>>>> On Oct 15, 2014, at 6:33 AM, Daniel Mezick via OSList <
>>>> oslist@lists.openspacetech.org> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Greetings To All,
>>>> 
>>>> I notice that there are many big differences between
>>>> public-conference-type OST events, and OST events arranged for
>>>> organizations.
>>>> 
>>>> Do you also notice this? Maybe I am imagining this....just making stuff
>>>> up...
>>>> 
>>>> ...maybe not. In many key dimensions, I experience these differences as
>>>> striking. Even disturbing.
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> And so I have been poking around inside the GUIDE (3rd edition) and I
>>>> notice that, in some spots, the implication is that the discussion is about
>>>> a public event. Up to page 18 for example, this implication is clear:
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> <THE GUIDE PAGE 18>
>>>> 
>>>> Working With The Client if you ARE NOT the Sponsor
>>>> 
>>>> "To this point I have assumed that you (the reader) will be the sponsor
>>>> and facilitator of the Open Space, and therefore *it is your decision
>>>> as to whether or not to proceed*...(*emphasis added.*)
>>>> 
>>>> </THE GUIDE PAGE 18>
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> My current belief is that having the same person in the Sponsor role
>>>> **and** the Facilitator role is probably a very bad idea for an OST event 
>>>> *inside
>>>> an organization*. For the typical public-conference event on the other
>>>> hand, this seems to work just fine. Kinda like a Barcamp or 
>>>> Unconference....
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Another current belief I hold is that OST is the essential tool for
>>>> creating "Development and Transformation in Organizations". It is best
>>>> suited for use in organizations.
>>>> 
>>>> It is interesting to note how the Barcamp and/or "Unconference" formats
>>>> seem to get the same or as-good results as Open Space, in the public
>>>> conference setting.
>>>> 
>>>> Not so inside organizations! In fact, as of now, I don't think Barcamp
>>>> or Unconference has any chance whatsoever at being effective in bringing
>>>> about Development and Transformation in Organizations the way Open Space
>>>> can. Something about the Sponsor?
>>>> 
>>>> Daniel
>>>> 
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> Hello all
> 
> My interest at the moment is to learn simply, who here is interested in
> pattern languages and Open Space?
> 
> I introduced myself to the Facebook group by asking who is interested in
> pattern languages.  It seems to be kick starting a discussion, but Artur
> Silva points out that would be better suited to OSList.  So abracadabra,
> here we are!
> 
> Artur referred to a (~2009) conversation on the "Foundations of OST", which
> came close to the topic without being explicit.  I will explore this
> sometime soon.
> 
> I personally have a long-term interest in patterns for participatory
> processes, and use patterns as a frame to extrapolate lessons from OST to
> apply in other contexts.
> 
> If these things are of interest I welcome a conversation : )
> 
> Cheers
> 
> *John Baxter*
> *?Co?Create Adelaide Facilitator, Director of Realise consultancy*
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> To: John Baxter <j...@jsbaxter.com.au>,    World wide Open Space
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> You will find the group pattern language project interesting...
> 
> http://groupworksdeck.org
> 
> Chris
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> Harvest Moon Consultants
> Facilitation, Open Space Technology and process design 
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> resources. 
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> 
>> On Oct 16, 2014, at 9:28 PM, John Baxter via OSList 
>> <oslist@lists.openspacetech.org> wrote:
>> 
>> Hello all
>> 
>> My interest at the moment is to learn simply, who here is interested in 
>> pattern languages and Open Space?
>> 
>> I introduced myself to the Facebook group by asking who is interested in 
>> pattern languages.  It seems to be kick starting a discussion, but Artur 
>> Silva points out that would be better suited to OSList.  So abracadabra, 
>> here we are!
>> 
>> Artur referred to a (~2009) conversation on the "Foundations of OST", which 
>> came close to the topic without being explicit.  I will explore this 
>> sometime soon.
>> 
>> I personally have a long-term interest in patterns for participatory 
>> processes, and use patterns as a frame to extrapolate lessons from OST to 
>> apply in other contexts.
>> 
>> If these things are of interest I welcome a conversation : )
>> 
>> Cheers
>> 
>> John Baxter
>> ?Co?Create Adelaide Facilitator, Director of Realise consultancy
>> CoCreateADL.com? | jsbaxter.com.au
>> 0405 447 829? | ?@jsbaxter_
>> 
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> I don't think you need to be so qualified, Paul;
> 3.) All "all statements" are *positively* self limiting.
> 
> But then if I gather correctly, it's all a joke anyway.
> 
> So from that vantage point... what do we do now?
> 
> 
> *John Baxter*
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> On Fri, Oct 17, 2014 at 8:59 AM, paul levy via OSList <
> oslist@lists.openspacetech.org> wrote:
> 
>> Of course ! It's the wonderful irony of "all" statements.
>> 
>> Paul
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On 16 Oct 2014, at 22:43, Daniel Mezick via OSList <
>> oslist@lists.openspacetech.org> wrote:
>> 
>> Including this one?
>> 
>> On 10/16/14 2:15 PM, paul levy via OSList wrote:
>> 
>> I'd just venture to add a third to Harrison's first two...
>> 
>>  1) All Systems are Open. 2) All Systems are self organizing.
>> 
>> And 3. All "all statements" are possibly self-limiting
>> 
>> Best regards
>> 
>> Paul Levy
>> 
>> 
>> On Thursday, 16 October 2014, Harrison Owen via OSList <
>> oslist@lists.openspacetech.org> wrote:
>> 
>>> John ? Thank you, Thank you for all the rich stuff! Sort of a Tidal
>>> Wave, but that?s when it gets fun, albeit a tad difficult to keep track of
>>> the sundry bits and pieces J
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Picking Just One:   ?But I can't get past the feeling that *there are
>>> lots of barriers to the openness of space, and to self organisation*.?
>>> Absolutely. And if we were to put that into the language of the trade
>>> (Complexity Theorists and the like) we would be talking about ?system
>>> constraints.? But as I understand it, that does not mean that Self
>>> Organization is no longer operative. And in fact the System Constraints are
>>> part and parcel of the process, a very important part. I think it goes
>>> something like this ?
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> I have found myself coming to  two conclusions, or better yet
>>> observations. 1) All Systems are Open. 2) All Systems are self organizing.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> As Open Systems, we, in all permutations of our ?us-ness? ? businesses,
>>> countries, families, planets, etc) are open to, and impacted by, all other
>>> systems. Sometimes a lot, and sometimes a little, but in our cosmos there
>>> is no safe, protected place. Everything is related to everything else, and
>>> we are no exception. If true, this has a number of implications. First of
>>> all the environment in which we exist is so complex, fast moving and
>>> inter-connected we can?t even think at that level. Secondly, what you can?t
>>> even think about, you can?t control. So the notion that somebody is
>>> actually ?in charge/in control? is not just a silly idea, it is delusional.
>>> 3) System preservation/growth depends on our  ability to navigate this
>>> environment. And it is a good news/bad news situation. Sometimes the
>>> impacts drive us in new and creative directions, and open up new
>>> opportunities which are ours if we respond appropriately. At other times
>>> the impacts drive us to the wall, and it?s Game over. Another word is
>>> Death. If this story is in any ways valid, it would seem like Mission
>>> Impossible. And yet this story has seemingly been going on for 13.7 Billion
>>> years and we are still here to complain about it. How could that be?
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> All Systems are Self Organizing ? Self Organization is in fact the
>>> mechanism whereby we navigate the environment, and all systems do it, I
>>> think. And when they stop doing it, they disappear. Self Organization is
>>> not the product of some CEO or executive committee. After all, they really
>>> haven?t been around for all that long. Self Organization is the product of
>>> the total system in all of its aspects and bits and pieces. How all that
>>> works has been a matter of stunning discovery over the past 40 years or so.
>>> I doubt we have it all right, but I do think we may have the major elements
>>> of understanding in place. The outline goes something like this ? a) Steady
>>> State b) Chaos c) A bifurcation to either dissipation (poof) or
>>> reconstitution at new and higher levels of order. Of course you have to
>>> fill in a lot of the blanks, and there is a massive literature attempting
>>> to do just that. But I do believe we have enough to get started with some
>>> basic observations. It really is a Whole System affair, in which all
>>> elements must work together, and no element has an *a priori* claim to
>>> centrality. In a business this could mean that the dumb question of an
>>> intern could just open the doors for the future. You just don?t know. But
>>> you do know that an organization?s future directly relates to its capacity
>>> to bring total system assets to bear on emergent challenges and
>>> opportunities quickly and effectively. It is always tempting to  try and
>>> ?hedge the bet? with some plan, policy or procedure, but it worthwhile
>>> noting that the tighter (more constraining) the plan, the greater the
>>> likelihood of failure. It?s not that the plan was bad... but unfortunately
>>> the challenge or opportunity came from a different direction, and all our
>>> eggs were in one basket ? the wrong one.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> So we have a very existential question ? How do we assure sufficient room
>>> (dare I say Space?) so that the infinite elements of any organization may
>>> quickly and effectively align to meet new challenges and opportunities ?
>>> recognizing in advance that we can never know what will be required?
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Open Space Technology is just a bit player in all of this, but good old
>>> OST can be useful none the less both as a natural laboratory to explore
>>> what is going on, and also as an effective intervention to encourage the
>>> appearance of the elemental power of self organization, particularly when
>>> it seems blocked and constrained.  There are no guarantees of course, and
>>> it may well be that The Organization?s time is now: Game Over. But the
>>> chances of renewal are pretty good, at least that has been my experience.
>>> And no matter what, the magic sauce is not OST ? but the power of self
>>> organization. So you could say, just as a way of speaking, ?It?s all Open
>>> Space.? But that?s just a joke, son.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Harrison
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Winter Address
>>> 
>>> 7808 River Falls Drive
>>> 
>>> Potomac, MD 20854
>>> 
>>> 301-365-2093
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Summer Address
>>> 
>>> 189 Beaucaire Ave.
>>> 
>>> Camden, ME 04843
>>> 
>>> 207-763-3261
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Websites
>>> 
>>> www.openspaceworld.com <http://%20www.openspaceworld.com>
>>> 
>>> www.ho-image.com
>>> 
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>>> 
>>> 
>>> *From:* OSList [mailto:oslist-boun...@lists.openspacetech.org] *On
>>> Behalf Of *John Baxter via OSList
>>> *Sent:* Thursday, October 16, 2014 2:57 AM
>>> *To:* Harrison Owen
>>> *Cc:* World wide Open Space Technology email list
>>> *Subject:* Re: [OSList] Authority Distribution in Open Space
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> I have knots about empowerment, and the ubiquitous openness of space.
>>> These knots are about to inspire a rant.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> These knots, I should start with, are not entirely the result of this
>>> present discussion thread - it is just this discussion that prompts me to
>>> speak.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> I think I understand Harrison, if you suggest that self-organisation is
>>> more common than we realise... if not ubiquitous, omnipresent, then at
>>> least that we can fruitfully challenge the assumption that formal and
>>> top-down organisation dominates how things get done.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> But I can't get past the feeling that *there are lots of barriers to the
>>> openness of space, and to self organisation*.  Everywhere and all the
>>> time.  In my recent work, mental barriers by all involved about authority
>>> and role relationships.  My personal barriers around trying too hard to
>>> "empower".  My client's patronising assumptions about the "capacity" and
>>> "maturity" of "the sector".  Information asymmetries.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> So I get really conflicted when anyone starts saying "well space is open
>>> all the time" (implication: 'so chill out cos there's nothing you need to
>>> do').
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> I am also conflicted about stepping back from the goal of empowerment, as
>>> if everybody else needs to just step into open space and take
>>> responsibility.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Yes - many people don't realise the power that they have.  (In my last
>>> project; nobody seemed to quite buy into the fact that *they could
>>> directly author the document that they were trying to influence*.)
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> But it is also patronising to suggest that empowerment lies in just
>>> helping people to see how powerful they are... because many people
>>> *don't* have the power that we or they might like.  To suggest that
>>> people have the power and just don't use it... that effectively blames them
>>> for their situation, and washes our hands of responsibility.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> The biggest barrier to group change I see time and time again is
>>> authority figures who believe others need to change, not themselves.  (Most
>>> commonly, that their employees need to "be empowered", and that they need
>>> to manage a culture change program to get there... or better yet, that HR
>>> needs to manage the change program, while we are busy getting the real work
>>> done.)
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> I don't pretend that empowerment is something that can be done to other
>>> people (patronising), but I do firmly believe that we all first need to
>>> look to ourselves and what we need to do to play our role making such a
>>> future possible.  And, in fact, that *this is all that we can ever do*.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Maybe the wisdom in what you say Harrison is that we do this by focusing
>>> on respect first, as a productive way to enable empowerment.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Maybe I am picking on the wrong things and have misunderstood them, and I
>>> apologise if I have been critical.  But I also see a lot of things said
>>> that make me uncomfortable, that knot me up.  Again, most of these things
>>> are from my memory, not the present discussion.  While my memory might not
>>> be the best, I'm sure it is based on something.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Thank you all for your patience and for being in this discussion
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> *John Baxter*
>>> 
>>> *?**Co**?**Create Adelaide Facilitator, Director of Realise consultancy*
>>> 
>>> CoCreateADL.com? <http://cocreateadl.com/localgov%E2%80%8B> |
>>> jsbaxter.com.au <http://www.jsbaxter.com.au/>
>>> 
>>> 0405 447 829
>>> 
>>> ? | ?
>>> 
>>> @jsbaxter_ <http://twitter.com/jsbaxter_>
>>> 
>>> 
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>>> 
>>> 
>>> On Wed, Oct 15, 2014 at 6:06 AM, Harrison Owen <hho...@verizon.net>
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> John -- I?m rather curious what you meant by ?The overall project was
>>> more complicated than OST?? My confusion comes in part from my experience
>>> that complexity is actually an essential precondition for OST, or more
>>> exactly the effective operation of self organization. The essential
>>> pre-conditions as I have experienced the are: A Real business issue
>>> (something that people really care about). High levels of complexity such
>>> that no single person or group has a prayer of figuring it out. High levels
>>> of diversity in terms of people and points of view. Lots of passion and
>>> conflict. And a decision time of yesterday (urgency). Given these 5
>>> conditions, self organization in the more formal setting of OST or as a
>>> natural occurrence just seems to happen... unless...And this may be the
>>> point of problem... It is arbitrarily constrained... which usually means
>>> that somebody already has the plan/program/design and they are just looking
>>> for buy-in or (worst case) they are simply trying to sugar coat the pill,
>>> and make it seem like the folks are creating something, when in fact the
>>> cake is already baked.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> A clue to the dilemma may be in the phrase, ?I struggled to help the
>>> client (the funding body) to really 'empower'...? I know we talk a lot
>>> about empowerment, but I have come to the conclusion that it is really a
>>> red herring, and most painfully so in those situations where you actually
>>> try to do it. Sounds odd, I guess, but think about it. If I empower
>>> you...you are in my power. And the more I try to empower you the worse it
>>> gets. Real empowerment, in my book, is not an act that we (or somebody) do,
>>> but an acknowledgement of a pre-existing condition...you are powerful. Of
>>> course I might encourage you a bit to be as powerful as you are, but it is
>>> not something I can give you. You must claim it for yourself. Strange as it
>>> may seem, I find the notion of ?empowerment? to be just the opposite of
>>> that fundament of effective working relationships (or any relationship)
>>> RESPECT. And I suspect that it is precisely here that the fickle finger of
>>> fate is pointing to the critical issue.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Another word that fits in here for me is ?Patronizing.? Everything may
>>> sound super nice, and all the proper and correct words may be spoken, but
>>> if the implication is that the folks (participants) really do not have the
>>> competence or ability to deal with the issues, it is fairly predictable
>>> that they will not bother to try. Or if they ?try? it will be pretty much
>>> of a pro forma situation. Sound familiar?
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Harrison
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Winter Address
>>> 
>>> 7808 River Falls Drive
>>> 
>>> Potomac, MD 20854
>>> 
>>> 301-365-2093
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Summer Address
>>> 
>>> 189 Beaucaire Ave.
>>> 
>>> Camden, ME 04843
>>> 
>>> 207-763-3261
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Websites
>>> 
>>> www.openspaceworld.com <http://%20www.openspaceworld.com>
>>> 
>>> www.ho-image.com
>>> 
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>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> *From:* OSList [mailto:oslist-boun...@lists.openspacetech.org] *On
>>> Behalf Of *John Baxter via OSList
>>> *Sent:* Monday, October 13, 2014 2:41 AM
>>> *To:* Daniel Mezick
>>> *Cc:* World wide Open Space Technology email list
>>> *Subject:* Re: [OSList] Authority Distribution in Open Space
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Hi Daniel.  Thanks for your considered response.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> I will try to keep my response in line with the topic.... but expect it
>>> may meander.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> The OST day I was preparing for has since come and gone.
>>> 
>>> I decided in the end to least give OST a crack and see what happened.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> It didn't go very well; but it also went well enough (vis overall project
>>> goals, and client expectations), so I don't feel so bad about it... even if
>>> I had personally envisaged more.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> I am not one to worry about the cannon... which means sometimes I break
>>> things, as I did this time.  There was still an (informal) sponsor, the one
>>> that sent the invites.  They just did not have a presence on the day.
>>> Thank you Daniel as you did make me think critically about the strength of
>>> my role as host.  I think I dealt with that through my introduction to the
>>> day; and as it turns out the authority to host was not an issue.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> But as it turns out, that was not really the biggest challenge!
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> The main lessons I took away about what contributed to the average result:
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> *There needs to be clear, compelling shared work.*
>>> 
>>> The overall project was more complicated than OST, so it wasn't clear
>>> what turning up actually meant, and I think many did not turn up on the
>>> basis of wanting to resolve a shared challenge (the work), as you might
>>> expect for OST.   In straight OST terms, you could say this was an issue of
>>> invitation, but really it was many things.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> So the group was interesting.  They had the heart, but not the will.
>>> They were committed, but without ownership of the result.  I've seen this a
>>> lot in the community engagement field, but nowhere that I have used (or
>>> seen) OST.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> I thought about this a lot, I thought it might have been about the
>>> invitation and self-selection; but at the end of the day I think it comes
>>> down to the sense of (and invitation in to) shared work.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> *It is super hard to dissolve ingrained power and authority relationships
>>> in the short term.  These can't be sidestepped by an external facilitator.*
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> I struggled to help the client (the funding body) to really 'empower'.
>>> They talked about it and genuinely want to, but old habits and mental
>>> models don't change overnight.  They really struggled to push beyond
>>> managing the process as superiours (to a set of subordinate participants).
>>> This is 'empowerment' within a patriarchal system, and it doesn't work.  It
>>> felt very yucky at times.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> A curious side effect of this partriarchal 'empowerment' was an
>>> unwillingness to be clear about the work ("we want to be open and let them
>>> lead the process" they would say... I got the client to agree that *the*y 
>>> were
>>> clearly the leaders, but we didn't quite work out how to put that into
>>> practice).
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Over the course of the engagement, we all took baby steps together that
>>> invest in their (/our) capacity to really work together in future.  They
>>> learned a LOT in a short period of time, and so did I, but it was too
>>> short.  By the end of the project I had the client calling me up to ask how
>>> they could reword things so they didn't reflect a control response. : )
>>> That was good, but obviously if they need me for this then there is some
>>> way to go.  And different client reps had different levels of self
>>> reflection.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Hosting an isolated OST workshop against this grain was very ambitious,
>>> it was always going to be, no matter how we conducted ourselves.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> And perhaps 20% were very proactive, and led the bulk of the work that
>>> occurred... they saved the day!
>>> 
>>> But the length of the OST was not enough for this leadership to really be
>>> contagious and precipitate a productive culture.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> *Or in other words: we struggled to free up authorisation to be more
>>> dynamic*
>>> 
>>> Reading your blog post Daniel, the idea of dynamic authorisation would
>>> have been very useful earlier in the project.  Another way of looking at
>>> the project: we struggled to free the space of ingrained authority to
>>> enable dynamic authorisation.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> There were lots of other insights into how we could have done it
>>> differently, but to me these were the fundamental stumbling blocks for us.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Still, they were not too big, and I'm pleased we made a good start.
>>> 
>>> My favourite feedback was "thank you, this was the first time I have been
>>> part of genuine engagement in more than a decade in the sector" : )
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Next time, we will do better.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> *John Baxter*
>>> 
>>> *?**Co**?**Create Adelaide Facilitator, Director of Realise consultancy*
>>> 
>>> CoCreateADL.com? <http://cocreateadl.com/localgov%E2%80%8B> |
>>> jsbaxter.com.au <http://www.jsbaxter.com.au/>
>>> 
>>> 0405 447 829 <0405%20447%20829>
>>> 
>>> ? | ?
>>> 
>>> @jsbaxter_ <http://twitter.com/jsbaxter_>
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
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>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On Tue, Sep 30, 2014 at 12:07 AM, Daniel Mezick <d...@newtechusa.net>
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi John,
>>> 
>>> Yours is a very interesting story.
>>> 
>>> You say:
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> *"...To be honest I am not sure how I need to deal with this, though my
>>> strategy is to accept the authority for hosting the space in the next
>>> workshop, obsolving the department of their responsibility to manage the
>>> day." "...I don't think it is feasible for the obvious authority candidates
>>> hosting something genuinely participatory.  The relevant director has said
>>> she doesn't want to speak formally and become The Authority for the day, a
>>> position I agree with."*
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> In the situation as described, it sounds like the org is the very
>>> earliest stages of moving in a direction of more
>>> open/participatory/inviting.
>>> 
>>> Do you agree with this assessment?
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> If this assessment is correct, based on what you describe, I would
>>> probably avoid attempting Open Space in the canonical form whatsoever (as
>>> described in the OST GUIDE)  because the Sponsor role is vacant.
>>> Unoccupied. And so, by my reckoning, if I understand you right, a true Open
>>> Space event isn't even possible, because the essential OST-Sponsor-role is
>>> in fact not willingly occupied by anyone with enough authority to play that
>>> essential role well.
>>> 
>>> What's clear is that someone who could function as OST-Sponsor is
>>> currently unwilling to do so. And so I might try a "taster" or "demo" event
>>> instead, where the goal is to *learn about Open Space in general*, and
>>> do a *little* bit of "real" work too. Especially if the allotted time a
>>> mere 1/2 day, I am even more inclined to strongly favor this re-framing of
>>> the stated goals.
>>> 
>>> So the primary and stated goal for the "taster" is learning about OST.
>>> Another goal for a short event might be to see who shows up
>>> super-interested in the art of Facilitation, and then offer to mentor those
>>> who do self-select by showing interest.  In this manner some Facilitation
>>> capacity is developed inside the org, to help with current meetings and
>>> processes. Introducing Facilitation into typical meetings is a easy and
>>> effective "culture hack".
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> For me, the total unwillingness of an obvious candidate to occupy the
>>> Sponsor role is a huge warning signal to slow down, pause, or even stop.
>>> 
>>> Lots of people here have more experience than me, and might be willing to
>>> lend you some of their expertise regarding the authority dynamics of
>>> Facilitating an OST event with the essential OST-Sponsor-role completely
>>> vacant
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Kind Regards,
>>> Daniel
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On 9/28/14 11:30 PM, John Baxter wrote:
>>> 
>>> I am navigating some challenging authority dynamics in a project at the
>>> moment.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> I was brought in a week out from the first of three forums, and asked to
>>> 'facilitate a codesign process' which was at that stage a black box (with
>>> many hidden expectations) scheduled into that event (1 hour before lunch
>>> and 1 hour afterwards).
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> It's a long journey, but you can imagine how my role has changed as I
>>> prepare for the third forum which I am hosting in Open Space.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> The overall process is an engagement between a government department and
>>> their funded agencies.  The most obvious direct power dynamics are obvious,
>>> the effective power and authority dynamics are much more complex (though
>>> predictable).
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Department staff have authority challenges as much as the agencies.  They
>>> are trying so hard to be 'neutral' and 'non controlling' that they are
>>> effectively reinforcing their own authority positions (which often have
>>> little real correlation to the power, knowledge etc that they imagine them
>>> to).
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> To be honest I am not sure how I need to deal with this, though my
>>> strategy is to accept the authority for hosting the space in the next
>>> workshop, obsolving the department of their responsibility to manage the
>>> day.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> It has been interesting to watch push back so far from agency reps who
>>> are committed to participating, who are genuinely engaged, but are playing
>>> to an us-them tension that is getting in the way of the shared work (and
>>> serves them no good ends except protecting them from their own
>>> responsibility).  Stand-offishness is gradually being resolved, though some
>>> pockets are holding firm.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> I am crossing my fingers for WS3 that we can traverse these and get into
>>> Open Space without being pushed off the bridge by the reactionary tension;
>>> and that once on the other side, the department reps can embrace Open Space
>>> and take responsibility for their role.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> We will get across *as long as I have the authority* to host the space
>>> for them.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> I don't think it is feasible for the obvious authority candidates hosting
>>> something genuinely participatory.  The relevant director has said she
>>> doesn't want to speak formally and become The Authority for the day, a
>>> position I agree with.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> But it does leave something of a shell, where I am crossing my fingers
>>> that our time together thus far affords me the authority to host that space.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> I think we are ready. I am bringing my harness and floaties just in case.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> *John Baxter*
>>> 
>>> *? Co?Create Adelaide Facilitator, Director of Realise consultancy*
>>> 
>>> CoCreateADL.com ? <http://cocreateadl.com/localgov%E2%80%8B> |
>>> jsbaxter.com.au <http://www.jsbaxter.com.au/>
>>> 
>>> 0405 447 829
>>> 
>>> ? | ?
>>> 
>>> @jsbaxter_ <http://twitter.com/jsbaxter_>
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
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>>> 
>>> On Mon, Sep 29, 2014 at 12:26 PM, Daniel Mezick via OSList <
>>> oslist@lists.openspacetech.org> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi Harrison,
>>> 
>>> So interesting how the Law of 2 Feet authorizes me, and every other
>>> member of an OST event, to go anywhere we may want to go.
>>> 
>>> Without asking anyone else for any kind of "permission"...
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Reminds me of this past June, being in Camden with you, and Ethelyn, and
>>> Harold, and friends... when we were standing on the porch of that Camden
>>> restaurant... waiting for everyone to arrive, and assemble for dinner...
>>> 
>>> And as we wait, I notice there is this convenient-looking, alternate
>>> entry-door... into the dining area.
>>> 
>>> And I say: "Hmm...I wonder if we are authorized to use that door."
>>> 
>>> And you say:
>>> 
>>> "We're authorized to go Anywhere we want to go."
>>> 
>>> ...and I like that.
>>> 
>>> Daniel
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Picture of that place:
>>> https://twitter.com/DanielMezick/status/483054326265692161
>>> See also:
>>> https://twitter.com/danielgullo/status/483434622009999360
>>> 
>>> 
>>> <mime-attachment.png>
>>> 
>>> On 9/25/14 4:58 PM, Harrison Owen wrote:
>>> 
>>> Daniel... You really did it! I think. Your language comes from a place
>>> I don?t know... which is to say that I probably wouldn?t say what you say
>>> in the way that you do (duh). BUT when I run my ?translator? it comes out
>>> sounding pretty good! So... I can?t help with the questions you have
>>> raised. Actually I think you are doing pretty well on your own, and
>>> (hopefully) will incite others to a similarly riotous performance. Thanks!
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Harrison
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Winter Address
>>> 
>>> 7808 River Falls Drive
>>> 
>>> Potomac, MD 20854
>>> 
>>> 301-365-2093
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Summer Address
>>> 
>>> 189 Beaucaire Ave.
>>> 
>>> Camden, ME 04843
>>> 
>>> 207-763-3261
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Websites
>>> 
>>> www.openspaceworld.com <http://%20www.openspaceworld.com>
>>> 
>>> www.ho-image.com
>>> 
>>> OSLIST To subscribe, unsubscribe, change your options, view the archives
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>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> *From:* OSList [mailto:oslist-boun...@lists.openspacetech.org] *On
>>> Behalf Of *Daniel Mezick via OSList
>>> *Sent:* Thursday, September 25, 2014 9:39 AM
>>> *To:* oslist@lists.openspacetech.org
>>> *Subject:* [OSList] Authority Distribution in Open Space
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Greetings to All,
>>> 
>>> For the past several years I have attended conferences of the Group
>>> Relations community, and encouraged others to do the same. I've studied
>>> their literature, and harvested some important learning as a result. One of
>>> the things I have come to understand a little bit better is the role of
>>> "authority dynamics" in self-organizing social systems.
>>> 
>>> Link:
>>> www.akriceinstitute.org
>>> 
>>> Over the past several years I've been using Open Space with intent to
>>> improve the results of my work in helping companies implement Agile ideas
>>> in their organizations. We do an initial Open Space, then the folks get
>>> about 3 months to play with Agile (we carefully use the word
>>> "experimentation" with management,) then we do another Open Space after
>>> that, to inspect what just happened across the enterprise. The initial and
>>> subsequent Open Space events form a "safe" container or field in which the
>>> members can *learn*... as they explore how to *improve* together by
>>> *experimenting* with new practices, and see if they actually work. I
>>> call the process Open Agile Adoption.
>>> 
>>> Link:
>>> OpenAgileAdoption.com
>>> 
>>> This seems to work pretty good. It seems to "take the air out of" most of
>>> the fear, most of the anxiety and most of the worry that is created. The
>>> key aspect is *consent*: absolutely no one is forced to do anything they
>>> are unwilling to do. No one is *coerced* to *comply*. Everyone is
>>> instead respectfully *invited* to help *write* the story, and be a
>>> *character* in the story...of the contemplated process change. Open
>>> Agile Adoption encourages a spirit of experimentation and play.
>>> 
>>> The spirit of Open Space is the spirit of freedom. Isn't it? In the OST
>>> community, we discuss and talk a lot about self-organization,
>>> self-management and self-governance. The Agile community also talks about
>>> these ideas a lot.
>>> 
>>> So I have some questions. What is really going on during
>>> self-organization in a social system? What are the steps? What information
>>> is being sent and received? >From whom, and by whom? Is the information
>>> about *authority* important? How important? Can a social system self
>>> organize without regard to who has the right to do what work? *How do
>>> decisions that affect others get made in a self-organizing system?*
>>> 
>>> Who decides about *who decides*? How important is the process of
>>> *authorization* in a self-organizing system? Is self-organization in
>>> large part the process of dynamic authorization (and *de-authorization*)
>>> in real time?
>>> 
>>> What *is *authorization? Can self-organization occur without the sending
>>> and receiving of authorization data by and between the members?
>>> 
>>> Is Bruce Tuckman's forming/storming/performing/adjourning actually
>>> decomposing the *dynamics of authorization* inside a social system?
>>> 
>>> The essay below attempts to answer some of these difficult questions. I'd
>>> love your thoughts on it. Will you give it a look?
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Essay: Authority Distribution in Open Space
>>> http://newtechusa.net/agile/authority-distribution-in-open-space/
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Kind Regards,
>>> Daniel
>>> 
>>> --
>>> 
>>> Daniel Mezick, President
>>> 
>>> New Technology Solutions Inc.
>>> 
>>> (203) 915 7248 (cell)
>>> 
>>> Bio <http://newtechusa.net/dan-mezick/>. Blog
>>> <http://newtechusa.net/blog/>. Twitter
>>> <http://twitter.com/#%21/danmezick/>.
>>> 
>>> Examine my new book:  The Culture Game
>>> <http://newtechusa.net/about/the-culture-game-book/>: Tools for the
>>> Agile Manager.
>>> 
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>>> <http://newtechusa.net/services/agile-scrum-training/> and Coaching.
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>>> 
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>>> Community.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> --
>>> 
>>> Daniel Mezick, President
>>> 
>>> New Technology Solutions Inc.
>>> 
>>> (203) 915 7248 (cell)
>>> 
>>> Bio <http://newtechusa.net/dan-mezick/>. Blog
>>> <http://newtechusa.net/blog/>. Twitter
>>> <http://twitter.com/#%21/danmezick/>.
>>> 
>>> Examine my new book:  The Culture Game
>>> <http://newtechusa.net/about/the-culture-game-book/>: Tools for the
>>> Agile Manager.
>>> 
>>> Explore Agile Team Training
>>> <http://newtechusa.net/services/agile-scrum-training/> and Coaching.
>>> <http://newtechusa.net/services/agile-scrum-coaching/>
>>> 
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>>> Community.
>>> 
>>> 
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>>> 
>>> 
>>> --
>>> 
>>> Daniel Mezick, President
>>> 
>>> New Technology Solutions Inc.
>>> 
>>> (203) 915 7248 (cell)
>>> 
>>> Bio <http://newtechusa.net/dan-mezick/>. Blog
>>> <http://newtechusa.net/blog/>. Twitter
>>> <http://twitter.com/#%21/danmezick/>.
>>> 
>>> Examine my new book:  The Culture Game
>>> <http://newtechusa.net/about/the-culture-game-book/>: Tools for the
>>> Agile Manager.
>>> 
>>> Explore Agile Team Training
>>> <http://newtechusa.net/services/agile-scrum-training/> and Coaching.
>>> <http://newtechusa.net/services/agile-scrum-coaching/>
>>> 
>>> Explore the Agile Boston <http://newtechusa.net/user-groups/ma/>
>>> Community.
>> 
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>> 
>> New Technology Solutions Inc.
>> 
>> (203) 915 7248 (cell)
>> 
>> Bio <http://newtechusa.net/dan-mezick/>. Blog
>> <http://newtechusa.net/blog/>. Twitter
>> <http://twitter.com/#%21/danmezick/>.
>> 
>> Examine my new book:  The Culture Game
>> <http://newtechusa.net/about/the-culture-game-book/>: Tools for the Agile
>> Manager.
>> 
>> Explore Agile Team Training
>> <http://newtechusa.net/services/agile-scrum-training/> and Coaching.
>> <http://newtechusa.net/services/agile-scrum-coaching/>
>> 
>> Explore the Agile Boston <http://newtechusa.net//user-groups/ma/>
>> Community.
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> From: Daniel Mezick via OSList <oslist@lists.openspacetech.org>
> To: Christine Whitney Sanchez <christ...@innovationpartners.com>,
>    World wide Open Space Technology email list
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> Greetings Christine,
> 
> Thanks for your detailed reply. I must admit, I have no experience 
> whatsoever with doing quasi-public OST events arranged for guilds, 
> industry-associations and the like. I'm clueless!
> 
> As such, my opinion does not have much (if any) validity about those use 
> cases. I do have some theories however, and I hope I can ask some 
> questions about OST for guilds & industry associations...
> 
> I see it like this:
> 
> (1) At one extreme end of the spectrum, there is the very private, 
> business-org-specific event. A kind of big-family system.
> 
> (2) At the other extreme, there is the totally public conference that 
> anyone can attend, if they pay the money...
> 
>      * It is an event that has some Open Space of varying quality, in
>        1/2 day, full day or multiple day formats.
>      * It may of may not have a Sponsor, it may of may not have
>        Proceedings. It may or may not have posters on the wall. If it
>        has Proceedings at all, they are often late.
>      * "Agile" conferences are commonly at found at this end of the range.
> 
> 
> My theory is that quasi-public OST events for and with guilds, industry 
> associations and the like lie somewhere in the middle of these two 
> extremes. And I can certainly imagine (theorize) how these events take 
> on the look, feel, tone, temp and flavor of the very private, 
> business-org-specific event. They might even effectively BE private 
> events. It's not like anyone with the fee (if any) can just waltz into 
> the meeting right?
> 
> 
> And so, for now, I want to set these quasi-public OST events aside, 
> and/or characterize them as private events. Is that OK?
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> And so, referring to (1) and (2) above, I continue to see very huge 
> differences between these two ways to use Open Space.
> 
> Like, the difference between Night and Day.
> 
> 
> Here's one of those very striking differences: in public-conference 
> events where OST is an add-on in 1/2 or full day formats, getting good 
> Proceedings is difficult. Or impossible. The Proceedings are typically 
> late and poorly formatted, or more commonly: /non-existent./
> 
> Yet inside private events, you can't pull the people off the task of 
> Proceedings creation. The task attracts them like a magnet. They 
> typically wave off any offers of help and take an absolutely huge 
> interest in the Proceedings generation. They rivet on it.
> 
> 
> 
> And this is just one example. There are many more BIG differences. And 
> so I continue to assert that for public-conference events where OST is a 
> full day or 1/2 day add-on, a Barcamp or Unconference can and does get 
> equivalent, similar, as-good results.
> 
> Stated another way, Barcamp and/or Unconference can never do what Open 
> Space does for organizations. And that's because Open Space is optimized 
> for enabling "development and transformation in organizations. "
> 
> And those other two aren't.
> 
> 
> Daniel
> 
> PS I realize some public, paid, Agile conferences that feature all-day 
> Open Space do a very good job with Proceedings. Yet this is clearly the 
> exception, and not the rule where Agile conferences are concerned.
> 
> 
> 
> 
>> On 10/15/14 11:43 AM, Christine Whitney Sanchez wrote:
>> Daniel and all,
>> 
>> In my experience, public events have the same buzz and meaningful 
>> results as an in-organization OST.  I?ve facilitated a number of them 
>> that were sponsored by a group of organizations in the community.  For 
>> instance, Vibrant Phoenix 
>> <http://vibrantphx.com/next-actions/top-ideas/>, was a very productive 
>> economic development OST, sponsored by two mayors of large 
>> municipalities and several local businesses.  One of the business 
>> sponsors agreed to be the contact for folks who wanted to take their 
>> ?actionable ideas? to the next level.  However, there was no budget 
>> and no infrastructure to really keep folks connected the the ideas 
>> they cared the most about.
>> 
>> This is where the public open spaces generally fall short.  Because 
>> the ongoing action is not the core mission of any of these 
>> organizations, it is hoped that the participants will self-organize 
>> going forward.  With very few exceptions, this does not happen.  I 
>> believe that sponsorship for the work after the OST is what is called for.
>> 
>> The Collective Impact 
>> <http://www.ssireview.org/blog/entry/channeling_change_making_collective_impact_work>
>>  model 
>> speaks to this.  It?s nothing new, really, but does represent a simple 
>> way to talk about the necessary conditions for sustaining collective 
>> action.  I now include my version of this model when I talk with 
>> potential sponsors to shine the light beyond the meeting so that we 
>> can discuss their intentions for providing backbone support for 
>> self-organized action going forward.
>> 
>> I especially love public Open Space events and look forward to working 
>> with sponsors who see the meeting as merely the first small step in 
>> collaborative action.  There is so much potential!
>> 
>> Warm wishes from a sunny autumn morning in the rain-greened desert,
>> 
>> Christine
>> 
>> Christine Whitney Sanchez, M.C.
>> Phoenix,AZ, USA ?+1.480.759.0262
>> www.innovationpartners.com <http://www.innovationpartners.com>
>> 
>> Facebook <https://www.facebook.com/ChristineWhitneySanchez> | LinkedIn 
>> <https://www.linkedin.com/in/christinewhitneysanchez> |Twitter 
>> <https://twitter.com/CWhitneySanchez>
>> 
>> On Oct 15, 2014, at 6:33 AM, Daniel Mezick via OSList 
>> <oslist@lists.openspacetech.org 
>> <mailto:oslist@lists.openspacetech.org>> wrote:
>> 
>> Greetings To All,
>> 
>> I notice that there are many big differences between 
>> public-conference-type OST events, and OST events arranged for 
>> organizations.
>> 
>> Do you also notice this? Maybe I am imagining this....just making 
>> stuff up...
>> 
>> ...maybe not. In many key dimensions, I experience these differences 
>> as striking. Even disturbing.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> And so I have been poking around inside the GUIDE (3rd edition) and I 
>> notice that, in some spots, the implication is that the discussion is 
>> about a public event. Up to page 18 for example, this implication is 
>> clear:
>> 
>> 
>> <THE GUIDE PAGE 18>
>> 
>> Working With The Client if you ARE NOT the Sponsor
>> 
>> "To this point I have assumed that you (the reader) will be the 
>> sponsor and facilitator of the Open Space, and therefore */it is your 
>> decision as to whether or not to proceed/*...(/emphasis added./)
>> 
>> </THE GUIDE PAGE 18>
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> My current belief is that having the same person in the Sponsor role 
>> **and** the Facilitator role is probably a very bad idea for an OST 
>> event /inside an organization/. For the typical public-conference 
>> event on the other hand, this seems to work just fine. Kinda like a 
>> Barcamp or Unconference....
>> 
>> 
>> Another current belief I hold is that OST is the essential tool for 
>> creating "Development and Transformation in Organizations". It is best 
>> suited for use in organizations.
>> 
>> It is interesting to note how the Barcamp and/or "Unconference" 
>> formats seem to get the same or as-good results as Open Space, in the 
>> public conference setting.
>> 
>> Not so inside organizations! In fact, as of now, I don't think Barcamp 
>> or Unconference has any chance whatsoever at being effective in 
>> bringing about Development and Transformation in Organizations the way 
>> Open Space can. Something about the Sponsor?
>> 
>> Daniel
>> 
>> 
>> -- 
>> 
>> Daniel Mezick, President
>> 
>> New Technology Solutions Inc.
>> 
>> (203) 915 7248 (cell)
>> 
>> Bio <http://newtechusa.net/dan-mezick/>. Blog 
>> <http://newtechusa.net/blog/>. Twitter 
>> <http://twitter.com/#%21/danmezick/>.
>> 
>> Examine my new book:The Culture Game 
>> <http://newtechusa.net/about/the-culture-game-book/>: Tools for the 
>> Agile Manager.
>> 
>> Explore Agile Team Training 
>> <http://newtechusa.net/services/agile-scrum-training/> and Coaching. 
>> <http://newtechusa.net/services/agile-scrum-coaching/>
>> 
>> Explore the Agile Boston 
>> <http://newtechusa.net//user-groups/ma/>Community.
>> 
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> -- 
> 
> Daniel Mezick, President
> 
> New Technology Solutions Inc.
> 
> (203) 915 7248 (cell)
> 
> Bio <http://newtechusa.net/dan-mezick/>. Blog 
> <http://newtechusa.net/blog/>. Twitter <http://twitter.com/#%21/danmezick/>.
> 
> Examine my new book:The Culture Game 
> <http://newtechusa.net/about/the-culture-game-book/>: Tools for the 
> Agile Manager.
> 
> Explore Agile Team Training 
> <http://newtechusa.net/services/agile-scrum-training/> and Coaching. 
> <http://newtechusa.net/services/agile-scrum-coaching/>
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> Date: Fri, 17 Oct 2014 09:15:42 -0500
> From: Michael Herman via OSList <oslist@lists.openspacetech.org>
> To: Daniel Mezick <d...@newtechusa.net>,    World wide Open Space
>    Technology email list    <oslist@lists.openspacetech.org>
> Subject: Re: [OSList] Private vs Public OST Differences?
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> Not sure the differences you articulate have anything to do with public and
> private, Daniel. It's about the different structures.  I've seen very loose
> corporate add-on events and very productive and long-lived action (spanning
> years and continents) come from open public conferences. So id say
> structure matters much more than setting.
> 
> 
> On Friday, October 17, 2014, Daniel Mezick via OSList <
> oslist@lists.openspacetech.org> wrote:
> 
>> Greetings Christine,
>> 
>> Thanks for your detailed reply. I must admit, I have no experience
>> whatsoever with doing quasi-public OST events arranged for guilds,
>> industry-associations and the like. I'm clueless!
>> 
>> As such, my opinion does not have much (if any) validity about those use
>> cases. I do have some theories however, and I hope I can ask some questions
>> about OST for guilds & industry associations...
>> 
>> I see it like this:
>> 
>> (1) At one extreme end of the spectrum, there is the very private,
>> business-org-specific event. A kind of big-family system.
>> 
>> (2) At the other extreme, there is the totally public conference that
>> anyone can attend, if they pay the money...
>> 
>>    - It is an event that has some Open Space of varying quality, in 1/2
>>      day, full day or multiple day formats.
>>       - It may of may not have a Sponsor, it may of may not have
>>      Proceedings. It may or may not have posters on the wall. If it has
>>      Proceedings at all, they are often late.
>>      - "Agile" conferences are commonly at found at this end of the
>>      range.
>> 
>> 
>> My theory is that quasi-public OST events for and with guilds, industry
>> associations and the like lie somewhere in the middle of these two
>> extremes. And I can certainly imagine (theorize) how these events take on
>> the look, feel, tone, temp and flavor of the very private,
>> business-org-specific event. They might even effectively BE private events.
>> It's not like anyone with the fee (if any) can just waltz into the meeting
>> right?
>> 
>> 
>> And so, for now, I want to set these quasi-public OST events aside, and/or
>> characterize them as private events. Is that OK?
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> And so, referring to (1) and (2) above, I continue to see very huge
>> differences between these two ways to use Open Space.
>> 
>> Like, the difference between Night and Day.
>> 
>> 
>> Here's one of those very striking differences: in public-conference events
>> where OST is an add-on in 1/2 or full day formats, getting good Proceedings
>> is difficult. Or impossible. The Proceedings are typically late and poorly
>> formatted, or more commonly: *non-existent.*
>> 
>> Yet inside private events, you can't pull the people off the task of
>> Proceedings creation. The task attracts them like a magnet. They typically
>> wave off any offers of help and take an absolutely huge interest in the
>> Proceedings generation. They rivet on it.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> And this is just one example. There are many more BIG differences. And so
>> I continue to assert that for public-conference events where OST is a full
>> day or 1/2 day add-on, a Barcamp or Unconference can and does get
>> equivalent, similar, as-good results.
>> 
>> Stated another way, Barcamp and/or Unconference can never do what Open
>> Space does for organizations. And that's because Open Space is optimized
>> for enabling "development and transformation in organizations. "
>> 
>> And those other two aren't.
>> 
>> 
>> Daniel
>> 
>> PS I realize some public, paid, Agile conferences that feature all-day
>> Open Space do a very good job with Proceedings. Yet this is clearly the
>> exception, and not the rule where Agile conferences are concerned.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On 10/15/14 11:43 AM, Christine Whitney Sanchez wrote:
>> 
>> Daniel and all,
>> 
>> In my experience, public events have the same buzz and meaningful
>> results as an in-organization OST.  I?ve facilitated a number of them that
>> were sponsored by a group of organizations in the community.  For instance, 
>> Vibrant
>> Phoenix <http://vibrantphx.com/next-actions/top-ideas/>, was a very
>> productive economic development OST, sponsored by two mayors of large
>> municipalities and several local businesses.  One of the business sponsors
>> agreed to be the contact for folks who wanted to take their ?actionable
>> ideas? to the next level.  However, there was no budget and no
>> infrastructure to really keep folks connected the the ideas they cared the
>> most about.
>> 
>> This is where the public open spaces generally fall short.  Because the
>> ongoing action is not the core mission of any of these organizations, it is
>> hoped that the participants will self-organize going forward.  With very
>> few exceptions, this does not happen.  I believe that sponsorship for the
>> work after the OST is what is called for.
>> 
>> The Collective Impact
>> <http://www.ssireview.org/blog/entry/channeling_change_making_collective_impact_work>
>>  model
>> speaks to this.  It?s nothing new, really, but does represent a simple way
>> to talk about the necessary conditions for sustaining collective action.  I
>> now include my version of this model when I talk with potential sponsors to
>> shine the light beyond the meeting so that we can discuss their intentions
>> for providing backbone support for self-organized action going forward.
>> 
>> I especially love public Open Space events and look forward to working
>> with sponsors who see the meeting as merely the first small step in
>> collaborative action.  There is so much potential!
>> 
>> Warm wishes from a sunny autumn morning in the rain-greened desert,
>> 
>> Christine
>> 
>> Christine Whitney Sanchez, M.C.
>> Phoenix, AZ, USA ? +1.480.759.0262
>> www.innovationpartners.com
>> 
>> Facebook <https://www.facebook.com/ChristineWhitneySanchez> | LinkedIn
>> <https://www.linkedin.com/in/christinewhitneysanchez> | Twitter
>> <https://twitter.com/CWhitneySanchez>
>> 
>> On Oct 15, 2014, at 6:33 AM, Daniel Mezick via OSList <
>> oslist@lists.openspacetech.org
>> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','oslist@lists.openspacetech.org');>> wrote:
>> 
>> Greetings To All,
>> 
>> I notice that there are many big differences between
>> public-conference-type OST events, and OST events arranged for
>> organizations.
>> 
>> Do you also notice this? Maybe I am imagining this....just making stuff
>> up...
>> 
>> ...maybe not. In many key dimensions, I experience these differences as
>> striking. Even disturbing.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> And so I have been poking around inside the GUIDE (3rd edition) and I
>> notice that, in some spots, the implication is that the discussion is about
>> a public event. Up to page 18 for example, this implication is clear:
>> 
>> 
>> <THE GUIDE PAGE 18>
>> 
>> Working With The Client if you ARE NOT the Sponsor
>> 
>> "To this point I have assumed that you (the reader) will be the sponsor
>> and facilitator of the Open Space, and therefore *it is your decision as
>> to whether or not to proceed*...(*emphasis added.*)
>> 
>> </THE GUIDE PAGE 18>
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> My current belief is that having the same person in the Sponsor role
>> **and** the Facilitator role is probably a very bad idea for an OST event 
>> *inside
>> an organization*. For the typical public-conference event on the other
>> hand, this seems to work just fine. Kinda like a Barcamp or Unconference....
>> 
>> 
>> Another current belief I hold is that OST is the essential tool for
>> creating "Development and Transformation in Organizations". It is best
>> suited for use in organizations.
>> 
>> It is interesting to note how the Barcamp and/or "Unconference" formats
>> seem to get the same or as-good results as Open Space, in the public
>> conference setting.
>> 
>> Not so inside organizations! In fact, as of now, I don't think Barcamp or
>> Unconference has any chance whatsoever at being effective in bringing about
>> Development and Transformation in Organizations the way Open Space can.
>> Something about the Sponsor?
>> 
>> Daniel
>> 
>> 
>> --
>> 
>> Daniel Mezick, President
>> 
>> New Technology Solutions Inc.
>> 
>> (203) 915 7248 (cell)
>> 
>> Bio <http://newtechusa.net/dan-mezick/>. Blog
>> <http://newtechusa.net/blog/>. Twitter
>> <http://twitter.com/#%21/danmezick/>.
>> 
>> Examine my new book:  The Culture Game
>> <http://newtechusa.net/about/the-culture-game-book/>: Tools for the Agile
>> Manager.
>> 
>> Explore Agile Team Training
>> <http://newtechusa.net/services/agile-scrum-training/> and Coaching.
>> <http://newtechusa.net/services/agile-scrum-coaching/>
>> 
>> Explore the Agile Boston <http://newtechusa.net//user-groups/ma/>
>> Community.
>> _______________________________________________
>> OSList mailing list
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>> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','OSList@lists.openspacetech.org');>
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>> 
>> 
>> --
>> 
>> Daniel Mezick, President
>> 
>> New Technology Solutions Inc.
>> 
>> (203) 915 7248 (cell)
>> 
>> Bio <http://newtechusa.net/dan-mezick/>. Blog
>> <http://newtechusa.net/blog/>. Twitter
>> <http://twitter.com/#%21/danmezick/>.
>> 
>> Examine my new book:  The Culture Game
>> <http://newtechusa.net/about/the-culture-game-book/>: Tools for the Agile
>> Manager.
>> 
>> Explore Agile Team Training
>> <http://newtechusa.net/services/agile-scrum-training/> and Coaching.
>> <http://newtechusa.net/services/agile-scrum-coaching/>
>> 
>> Explore the Agile Boston <http://newtechusa.net//user-groups/ma/>
>> Community.
> 
> 
> -- 
> 
> --
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>> On 10/17/14 7:01 AM, John Baxter wrote:
>> I don't think you need to be so qualified, Paul;
>> 3.) All "all statements" are /positively/ self limiting.
>> 
>> But then if I gather correctly, it's all a joke anyway.
>> 
>> So from that vantage point... what do we do now?
>> 
>> 
>> */John Baxter/*
>> /?Co?Create Adelaide Facilitator, Director of Realise consultancy/
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>> On Fri, Oct 17, 2014 at 8:59 AM, paul levy via OSList 
>> <oslist@lists.openspacetech.org 
>> <mailto:oslist@lists.openspacetech.org>> wrote:
>> 
>>    Of course ! It's the wonderful irony of "all" statements.
>> 
>>    Paul
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>    On 16 Oct 2014, at 22:43, Daniel Mezick via OSList
>>    <oslist@lists.openspacetech.org
>>    <mailto:oslist@lists.openspacetech.org>> wrote:
>> 
>>>    Including this one?
>>> 
>>>>    On 10/16/14 2:15 PM, paul levy via OSList wrote:
>>>>    I'd just venture to add a third to Harrison's first two...
>>>> 
>>>>     1) All Systems are Open. 2) All Systems are self organizing.
>>>> 
>>>>    And 3. All "all statements" are possibly self-limiting
>>>> 
>>>>    Best regards
>>>> 
>>>>    Paul Levy
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>>    On Thursday, 16 October 2014, Harrison Owen via OSList
>>>>    <oslist@lists.openspacetech.org
>>>>    <mailto:oslist@lists.openspacetech.org>> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>        John ? Thank you, Thank you for all the rich stuff! Sort of
>>>>        a Tidal Wave, but that?s when it gets fun, albeit a tad
>>>>        difficult to keep track of the sundry bits and pieces J
>>>> 
>>>>        Picking Just One:   ?But I can't get past the feeling that
>>>>        /there are lots of barriers to the openness of space, and to
>>>>        self organisation/.? Absolutely. And if we were to put that
>>>>        into the language of the trade (Complexity Theorists and the
>>>>        like) we would be talking about ?system constraints.? But as
>>>>        I understand it, that does not mean that Self Organization
>>>>        is no longer operative. And in fact the System Constraints
>>>>        are part and parcel of the process, a very important part. I
>>>>        think it goes something like this ?
>>>> 
>>>>        I have found myself coming to  two conclusions, or better
>>>>        yet observations. 1) All Systems are Open. 2) All Systems
>>>>        are self organizing.
>>>> 
>>>>        As Open Systems, we, in all permutations of our ?us-ness? ?
>>>>        businesses, countries, families, planets, etc) are open to,
>>>>        and impacted by, all other systems. Sometimes a lot, and
>>>>        sometimes a little, but in our cosmos there is no safe,
>>>>        protected place. Everything is related to everything else,
>>>>        and we are no exception. If true, this has a number of
>>>>        implications. First of all the environment in which we exist
>>>>        is so complex, fast moving and inter-connected we can?t even
>>>>        think at that level. Secondly, what you can?t even think
>>>>        about, you can?t control. So the notion that somebody is
>>>>        actually ?in charge/in control? is not just a silly idea, it
>>>>        is delusional. 3) System preservation/growth depends on our
>>>>        ability to navigate this environment. And it is a good
>>>>        news/bad news situation. Sometimes the impacts drive us in
>>>>        new and creative directions, and open up new opportunities
>>>>        which are ours if we respond appropriately. At other times
>>>>        the impacts drive us to the wall, and it?s Game over.
>>>>        Another word is Death. If this story is in any ways valid,
>>>>        it would seem like Mission Impossible. And yet this story
>>>>        has seemingly been going on for 13.7 Billion years and we
>>>>        are still here to complain about it. How could that be?
>>>> 
>>>>        All Systems are Self Organizing ? Self Organization is in
>>>>        fact the mechanism whereby we navigate the environment, and
>>>>        all systems do it, I think. And when they stop doing it,
>>>>        they disappear. Self Organization is not the product of some
>>>>        CEO or executive committee. After all, they really haven?t
>>>>        been around for all that long. Self Organization is the
>>>>        product of the total system in all of its aspects and bits
>>>>        and pieces. How all that works has been a matter of stunning
>>>>        discovery over the past 40 years or so. I doubt we have it
>>>>        all right, but I do think we may have the major elements of
>>>>        understanding in place. The outline goes something like this
>>>>        ? a) Steady State b) Chaos c) A bifurcation to either
>>>>        dissipation (poof) or reconstitution at new and higher
>>>>        levels of order. Of course you have to fill in a lot of the
>>>>        blanks, and there is a massive literature attempting to do
>>>>        just that. But I do believe we have enough to get started
>>>>        with some basic observations. It really is a Whole System
>>>>        affair, in which all elements must work together, and no
>>>>        element has an /a priori/ claim to centrality. In a business
>>>>        this could mean that the dumb question of an intern could
>>>>        just open the doors for the future. You just don?t know. But
>>>>        you do know that an organization?s future directly relates
>>>>        to its capacity to bring total system assets to bear on
>>>>        emergent challenges and opportunities quickly and
>>>>        effectively. It is always tempting to  try and ?hedge the
>>>>        bet? with some plan, policy or procedure, but it worthwhile
>>>>        noting that the tighter (more constraining) the plan, the
>>>>        greater the likelihood of failure. It?s not that the plan
>>>>        was bad... but unfortunately the challenge or opportunity
>>>>        came from a different direction, and all our eggs were in
>>>>        one basket ? the wrong one.
>>>> 
>>>>        So we have a very existential question ? How do we assure
>>>>        sufficient room (dare I say Space?) so that the infinite
>>>>        elements of any organization may quickly and effectively
>>>>        align to meet new challenges and opportunities ? recognizing
>>>>        in advance that we can never know what will be required?
>>>> 
>>>>        Open Space Technology is just a bit player in all of this,
>>>>        but good old OST can be useful none the less both as a
>>>>        natural laboratory to explore what is going on, and also as
>>>>        an effective intervention to encourage the appearance of the
>>>>        elemental power of self organization, particularly when it
>>>>        seems blocked and constrained.  There are no guarantees of
>>>>        course, and it may well be that The Organization?s time is
>>>>        now: Game Over. But the chances of renewal are pretty good,
>>>>        at least that has been my experience. And no matter what,
>>>>        the magic sauce is not OST ? but the power of self
>>>>        organization. So you could say, just as a way of speaking,
>>>>        ?It?s all Open Space.? But that?s just a joke, son.
>>>> 
>>>>        Harrison
>>>> 
>>>>        Winter Address
>>>> 
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>>>> 
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>>>> 
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>>>> 
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>>>> 
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>>>> 
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>>>> 
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>>>> 
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>>>> 
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>>>>        *From:*OSList
>>>>        [mailto:oslist-boun...@lists.openspacetech.org] *On Behalf
>>>>        Of *John Baxter via OSList
>>>>        *Sent:* Thursday, October 16, 2014 2:57 AM
>>>>        *To:* Harrison Owen
>>>>        *Cc:* World wide Open Space Technology email list
>>>>        *Subject:* Re: [OSList] Authority Distribution in Open Space
>>>> 
>>>>        I have knots about empowerment, and the ubiquitous openness
>>>>        of space.  These knots are about to inspire a rant.
>>>> 
>>>>        These knots, I should start with, are not entirely the
>>>>        result of this present discussion thread - it is just this
>>>>        discussion that prompts me to speak.
>>>> 
>>>>        I think I understand Harrison, if you suggest that
>>>>        self-organisation is more common than we realise... if not
>>>>        ubiquitous, omnipresent, then at least that we can
>>>>        fruitfully challenge the assumption that formal and top-down
>>>>        organisation dominates how things get done.
>>>> 
>>>>        But I can't get past the feeling that /there are lots of
>>>>        barriers to the openness of space, and to self
>>>>        organisation/.  Everywhere and all the time.  In my recent
>>>>        work, mental barriers by all involved about authority and
>>>>        role relationships.  My personal barriers around trying too
>>>>        hard to "empower".  My client's patronising assumptions
>>>>        about the "capacity" and "maturity" of "the sector".
>>>>        Information asymmetries.
>>>> 
>>>>        So I get really conflicted when anyone starts saying "well
>>>>        space is open all the time" (implication: 'so chill out cos
>>>>        there's nothing you need to do').
>>>> 
>>>>        I am also conflicted about stepping back from the goal of
>>>>        empowerment, as if everybody else needs to just step into
>>>>        open space and take responsibility.
>>>> 
>>>>        Yes - many people don't realise the power that they have.
>>>>         (In my last project; nobody seemed to quite buy into the
>>>>        fact that /they could directly author the document that they
>>>>        were trying to influence/.)
>>>> 
>>>>        But it is also patronising to suggest that empowerment lies
>>>>        in just helping people to see how powerful they are...
>>>>        because many people /don't/ have the power that we or they
>>>>        might like.  To suggest that people have the power and just
>>>>        don't use it... that effectively blames them for their
>>>>        situation, and washes our hands of responsibility.
>>>> 
>>>>        The biggest barrier to group change I see time and time
>>>>        again is authority figures who believe others need to
>>>>        change, not themselves.  (Most commonly, that their
>>>>        employees need to "be empowered", and that they need to
>>>>        manage a culture change program to get there... or better
>>>>        yet, that HR needs to manage the change program, while we
>>>>        are busy getting the real work done.)
>>>> 
>>>>        I don't pretend that empowerment is something that can be
>>>>        done to other people (patronising), but I do firmly believe
>>>>        that we all first need to look to ourselves and what we need
>>>>        to do to play our role making such a future possible.  And,
>>>>        in fact, that /this is all that we can ever do/.
>>>> 
>>>>        Maybe the wisdom in what you say Harrison is that we do this
>>>>        by focusing on respect first, as a productive way to enable
>>>>        empowerment.
>>>> 
>>>>        Maybe I am picking on the wrong things and have
>>>>        misunderstood them, and I apologise if I have been
>>>>        critical.  But I also see a lot of things said that make me
>>>>        uncomfortable, that knot me up. Again, most of these things
>>>>        are from my memory, not the present discussion.  While my
>>>>        memory might not be the best, I'm sure it is based on something.
>>>> 
>>>>        Thank you all for your patience and for being in this discussion
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>>        */John Baxter/*
>>>> 
>>>>        /?//Co//?//Create Adelaide Facilitator, Director of
>>>>        Realise consultancy/
>>>> 
>>>>        CoCreateADL.com?
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>>>>        <http://www.jsbaxter.com.au/>
>>>> 
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>>>> 
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>>>>        18 October 2014
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>>>> 
>>>>        On Wed, Oct 15, 2014 at 6:06 AM, Harrison Owen
>>>>        <hho...@verizon.net> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>        John -- I?m rather curious what you meant by ?The overall
>>>>        project was more complicated than OST?? My confusion comes
>>>>        in part from my experience that complexity is actually an
>>>>        essential precondition for OST, or more exactly the
>>>>        effective operation of self organization. The essential
>>>>        pre-conditions as I have experienced the are: A Real
>>>>        business issue (something that people really care about).
>>>>        High levels of complexity such that no single person or
>>>>        group has a prayer of figuring it out. High levels of
>>>>        diversity in terms of people and points of view. Lots of
>>>>        passion and conflict. And a decision time of yesterday
>>>>        (urgency). Given these 5 conditions, self organization in
>>>>        the more formal setting of OST or as a natural occurrence
>>>>        just seems to happen... unless...And this may be the point
>>>>        of problem... It is arbitrarily constrained... which usually
>>>>        means that somebody already has the plan/program/design and
>>>>        they are just looking for buy-in or (worst case) they are
>>>>        simply trying to sugar coat the pill, and make it seem like
>>>>        the folks are creating something, when in fact the cake is
>>>>        already baked.
>>>> 
>>>>        A clue to the dilemma may be in the phrase, ?I struggled to
>>>>        help the client (the funding body) to really 'empower'...? I
>>>>        know we talk a lot about empowerment, but I have come to the
>>>>        conclusion that it is really a red herring, and most
>>>>        painfully so in those situations where you actually try to
>>>>        do it. Sounds odd, I guess, but think about it. If I empower
>>>>        you...you are in my power. And the more I try to empower you
>>>>        the worse it gets. Real empowerment, in my book, is not an
>>>>        act that we (or somebody) do, but an acknowledgement of a
>>>>        pre-existing condition...you are powerful. Of course I might
>>>>        encourage you a bit to be as powerful as you are, but it is
>>>>        not something I can give you. You must claim it for
>>>>        yourself. Strange as it may seem, I find the notion of
>>>>        ?empowerment? to be just the opposite of that fundament of
>>>>        effective working relationships (or any relationship)
>>>>        RESPECT. And I suspect that it is precisely here that the
>>>>        fickle finger of fate is pointing to the critical issue.
>>>> 
>>>>        Another word that fits in here for me is ?Patronizing.?
>>>>        Everything may sound super nice, and all the proper and
>>>>        correct words may be spoken, but if the implication is that
>>>>        the folks (participants) really do not have the competence
>>>>        or ability to deal with the issues, it is fairly predictable
>>>>        that they will not bother to try. Or if they ?try? it will
>>>>        be pretty much of a pro forma situation. Sound familiar?
>>>> 
>>>>        Harrison
>>>> 
>>>>        Winter Address
>>>> 
>>>>        7808 River Falls Drive
>>>> 
>>>>        Potomac, MD 20854
>>>> 
>>>>        301-365-2093 <tel:301-365-2093>
>>>> 
>>>>        Summer Address
>>>> 
>>>>        189 Beaucaire Ave.
>>>> 
>>>>        Camden, ME 04843
>>>> 
>>>>        207-763-3261 <tel:207-763-3261>
>>>> 
>>>>        Websites
>>>> 
>>>>        www.openspaceworld.com <http://%20www.openspaceworld.com>
>>>> 
>>>>        www.ho-image.com <http://www.ho-image.com>
>>>> 
>>>>        OSLIST To subscribe, unsubscribe, change your options, view
>>>>        the archives of OSLIST Go
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>>>> 
>>>>        *From:*OSList
>>>>        [mailto:oslist-boun...@lists.openspacetech.org] *On Behalf
>>>>        Of *John Baxter via OSList
>>>>        *Sent:* Monday, October 13, 2014 2:41 AM
>>>>        *To:* Daniel Mezick
>>>>        *Cc:* World wide Open Space Technology email list
>>>>        *Subject:* Re: [OSList] Authority Distribution in Open Space
>>>> 
>>>>        Hi Daniel.  Thanks for your considered response.
>>>> 
>>>>        I will try to keep my response in line with the topic....
>>>>        but expect it may meander.
>>>> 
>>>>        The OST day I was preparing for has since come and gone.
>>>> 
>>>>        I decided in the end to least give OST a crack and see what
>>>>        happened.
>>>> 
>>>>        It didn't go very well; but it also went well enough (vis
>>>>        overall project goals, and client expectations), so I don't
>>>>        feel so bad about it... even if I had personally envisaged more.
>>>> 
>>>>        I am not one to worry about the cannon... which means
>>>>        sometimes I break things, as I did this time.  There was
>>>>        still an (informal) sponsor, the one that sent the invites. 
>>>>        They just did not have a presence on the day. Thank you
>>>>        Daniel as you did make me think critically about the
>>>>        strength of my role as host.  I think I dealt with that
>>>>        through my introduction to the day; and as it turns out the
>>>>        authority to host was not an issue.
>>>> 
>>>>        But as it turns out, that was not really the biggest challenge!
>>>> 
>>>>        The main lessons I took away about what contributed to the
>>>>        average result:
>>>> 
>>>>        *There needs to be clear, compelling shared work.*
>>>> 
>>>>        The overall project was more complicated than OST, so it
>>>>        wasn't clear what turning up actually meant, and I think
>>>>        many did not turn up on the basis of wanting to resolve a
>>>>        shared challenge (the work), as you might expect for OST.  
>>>>        In straight OST terms, you could say this was an issue of
>>>>        invitation, but really it was many things.
>>>> 
>>>>        So the group was interesting.  They had the heart, but not
>>>>        the will.  They were committed, but without ownership of the
>>>>        result.  I've seen this a lot in the community engagement
>>>>        field, but nowhere that I have used (or seen) OST.
>>>> 
>>>>        I thought about this a lot, I thought it might have been
>>>>        about the invitation and self-selection; but at the end of
>>>>        the day I think it comes down to the sense of (and
>>>>        invitation in to) shared work.
>>>> 
>>>>        *It is super hard to dissolve ingrained power and authority
>>>>        relationships in the short term.  These can't be sidestepped
>>>>        by an external facilitator.*
>>>> 
>>>>        I struggled to help the client (the funding body) to really
>>>>        'empower'.  They talked about it and genuinely want to, but
>>>>        old habits and mental models don't change overnight.  They
>>>>        really struggled to push beyond managing the process as
>>>>        superiours (to a set of subordinate participants).  This is
>>>>        'empowerment' within a patriarchal system, and it doesn't
>>>>        work.  It felt very yucky at times.
>>>> 
>>>>        A curious side effect of this partriarchal 'empowerment' was
>>>>        an unwillingness to be clear about the work ("we want to be
>>>>        open and let them lead the process" they would say... I got
>>>>        the client to agree that /the/y were clearly the leaders,
>>>>        but we didn't quite work out how to put that into practice).
>>>> 
>>>>        Over the course of the engagement, we all took baby steps
>>>>        together that invest in their (/our) capacity to really work
>>>>        together in future. They learned a LOT in a short period of
>>>>        time, and so did I, but it was too short.  By the end of the
>>>>        project I had the client calling me up to ask how they could
>>>>        reword things so they didn't reflect a control response. : )
>>>>         That was good, but obviously if they need me for this then
>>>>        there is some way to go.  And different client reps had
>>>>        different levels of self reflection.
>>>> 
>>>>        Hosting an isolated OST workshop against this grain was very
>>>>        ambitious, it was always going to be, no matter how we
>>>>        conducted ourselves.
>>>> 
>>>>        And perhaps 20% were very proactive, and led the bulk of the
>>>>        work that occurred... they saved the day!
>>>> 
>>>>        But the length of the OST was not enough for this leadership
>>>>        to really be contagious and precipitate a productive culture.
>>>> 
>>>>        *Or in other words: we struggled to free up authorisation to
>>>>        be more dynamic*
>>>> 
>>>>        Reading your blog post Daniel, the idea of dynamic
>>>>        authorisation would have been very useful earlier in the
>>>>        project.  Another way of looking at the project: we
>>>>        struggled to free the space of ingrained authority to enable
>>>>        dynamic authorisation.
>>>> 
>>>>        There were lots of other insights into how we could have
>>>>        done it differently, but to me these were the fundamental
>>>>        stumbling blocks for us.
>>>> 
>>>>        Still, they were not too big, and I'm pleased we made a good
>>>>        start.
>>>> 
>>>>        My favourite feedback was "thank you, this was the first
>>>>        time I have been part of genuine engagement in more than a
>>>>        decade in the sector" : )
>>>> 
>>>>        Next time, we will do better.
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>>        */John Baxter/*
>>>> 
>>>>        /?//Co//?//Create Adelaide Facilitator, Director of
>>>>        Realise consultancy/
>>>> 
>>>>        CoCreateADL.com?
>>>>        <http://cocreateadl.com/localgov%E2%80%8B> | jsbaxter.com.au
>>>>        <http://www.jsbaxter.com.au/>
>>>> 
>>>>        0405 447 829 <tel:0405%20447%20829>
>>>> 
>>>>        ? | ?
>>>> 
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>>>> 
>>>>        */City Grill? An Election Forum More Magnificent Than Any
>>>>        Ever Seen <http://citygrill.eventbrite.com.au>!/*/, Saturday
>>>>        18 October 2014
>>>>        Connect with your candidates, get your voice heard by
>>>>        joining with others in your community, and Influence the
>>>>        future of the city/
>>>> 
>>>>        On Tue, Sep 30, 2014 at 12:07 AM, Daniel Mezick
>>>>        <d...@newtechusa.net> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>        Hi John,
>>>> 
>>>>        Yours is a very interesting story.
>>>> 
>>>>        You say:
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>>        /"...To be honest*I am not sure* how I need to deal with
>>>>        this, though *my strategy is to accept the authority* for
>>>>        hosting the space in the next workshop, *obsolving the
>>>>        department of their responsibility* to manage the day."
>>>> 
>>>>        "...I don't think it is feasible for the obvious authority
>>>>        candidates hosting something genuinely participatory. *The
>>>>        relevant director has said she doesn't want to speak
>>>>        formally and become The Authority for the day*, a position I
>>>>        agree with."/
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>>        In the situation as described, it sounds like the org is the
>>>>        very earliest stages of moving in a direction of more
>>>>        open/participatory/inviting.
>>>> 
>>>>        Do you agree with this assessment?
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>>        If this assessment is correct, based on what you describe, I
>>>>        would probably avoid attempting Open Space in the canonical
>>>>        form whatsoever (as described in the OST GUIDE)  because the
>>>>        Sponsor role is vacant. Unoccupied. And so, by my reckoning,
>>>>        if I understand you right, a true Open Space event isn't
>>>>        even possible, because the essential OST-Sponsor-role is in
>>>>        fact not willingly occupied by anyone with enough authority
>>>>        to play that essential role well.
>>>> 
>>>>        What's clear is that someone who could function as
>>>>        OST-Sponsor is currently unwilling to do so. And so I might
>>>>        try a "taster" or "demo" event instead, where the goal is to
>>>>        /learn about Open Space in general/, and do a /little/ bit
>>>>        of "real" work too. Especially if the allotted time a mere
>>>>        1/2 day, I am even more inclined to strongly favor this
>>>>        re-framing of the stated goals.
>>>> 
>>>>        So the primary and stated goal for the "taster" is learning
>>>>        about OST. Another goal for a short event might be to see
>>>>        who shows up super-interested in the art of Facilitation,
>>>>        and then offer to mentor those who do self-select by showing
>>>>        interest.  In this manner some Facilitation capacity is
>>>>        developed inside the org, to help with current meetings and
>>>>        processes. Introducing Facilitation into typical meetings is
>>>>        a easy and effective "culture hack".
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>>        For me, the total unwillingness of an obvious candidate to
>>>>        occupy the Sponsor role is a huge warning signal to slow
>>>>        down, pause, or even stop.
>>>> 
>>>>        Lots of people here have more experience than me, and might
>>>>        be willing to lend you some of their expertise regarding the
>>>>        authority dynamics of Facilitating an OST event with the
>>>>        essential OST-Sponsor-role completely vacant
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>>        Kind Regards,
>>>>        Daniel
>>>> 
>>>>        On 9/28/14 11:30 PM, John Baxter wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>            I am navigating some challenging authority dynamics in a
>>>>            project at the moment.
>>>> 
>>>>            I was brought in a week out from the first of three
>>>>            forums, and asked to 'facilitate a codesign process'
>>>>            which was at that stage a black box (with many hidden
>>>>            expectations) scheduled into that event (1 hour before
>>>>            lunch and 1 hour afterwards).
>>>> 
>>>>            It's a long journey, but you can imagine how my role has
>>>>            changed as I prepare for the third forum which I am
>>>>            hosting in Open Space.
>>>> 
>>>>            The overall process is an engagement between a
>>>>            government department and their funded agencies.  The
>>>>            most obvious direct power dynamics are obvious, the
>>>>            effective power and authority dynamics are much more
>>>>            complex (though predictable).
>>>> 
>>>>            Department staff have authority challenges as much as
>>>>            the agencies. They are trying so hard to be 'neutral'
>>>>            and 'non controlling' that they are effectively
>>>>            reinforcing their own authority positions (which often
>>>>            have little real correlation to the power, knowledge etc
>>>>            that they imagine them to).
>>>> 
>>>>            To be honest I am not sure how I need to deal with this,
>>>>            though my strategy is to accept the authority for
>>>>            hosting the space in the next workshop, obsolving the
>>>>            department of their responsibility to manage the day.
>>>> 
>>>>            It has been interesting to watch push back so far from
>>>>            agency reps who are committed to participating, who are
>>>>            genuinely engaged, but are playing to an us-them tension
>>>>            that is getting in the way of the shared work (and
>>>>            serves them no good ends except protecting them from
>>>>            their own responsibility). Stand-offishness is gradually
>>>>            being resolved, though some pockets are holding firm.
>>>> 
>>>>            I am crossing my fingers for WS3 that we can traverse
>>>>            these and get into Open Space without being pushed off
>>>>            the bridge by the reactionary tension; and that once on
>>>>            the other side, the department reps can embrace Open
>>>>            Space and take responsibility for their role.
>>>> 
>>>>            We will get across /as long as I have the authority/ to
>>>>            host the space for them.
>>>> 
>>>>            I don't think it is feasible for the obvious authority
>>>>            candidates hosting something genuinely participatory.
>>>>            The relevant director has said she doesn't want to speak
>>>>            formally and become The Authority for the day, a
>>>>            position I agree with.
>>>> 
>>>>            But it does leave something of a shell, where I am
>>>>            crossing my fingers that our time together thus far
>>>>            affords me the authority to host that space.
>>>> 
>>>>            I think we are ready. I am bringing my harness and
>>>>            floaties just in case.
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>>            */John Baxter/*
>>>> 
>>>>            /? Co?Create Adelaide Facilitator, Director of
>>>>            Realise consultancy/
>>>> 
>>>>            CoCreateADL.com ?
>>>>            <http://cocreateadl.com/localgov%E2%80%8B> |
>>>>            jsbaxter.com.au <http://www.jsbaxter.com.au/>
>>>> 
>>>>            0405 447 829 <tel:0405%20447%20829>
>>>> 
>>>>            ? | ?
>>>> 
>>>>            @jsbaxter_ <http://twitter.com/jsbaxter_>
>>>> 
>>>>            /City Grill? An Election Forum More Magnificent Than Any
>>>>            Ever Seen <http://citygrill.eventbrite.com.au>/,
>>>>            Saturday 18 October 2014
>>>>            Influence your city by building relationships and
>>>>            joining voices with others in your community
>>>> 
>>>>            On Mon, Sep 29, 2014 at 12:26 PM, Daniel Mezick via
>>>>            OSList <oslist@lists.openspacetech.org> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>            Hi Harrison,
>>>> 
>>>>            So interesting how the Law of 2 Feet authorizes me, and
>>>>            every other member of an OST event, to go anywhere we
>>>>            may want to go.
>>>> 
>>>>            Without asking anyone else for any kind of "permission"...
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>>            Reminds me of this past June, being in Camden with you,
>>>>            and Ethelyn, and Harold, and friends... when we were
>>>>            standing on the porch of that Camden restaurant...
>>>>            waiting for everyone to arrive, and assemble for dinner...
>>>> 
>>>>            And as we wait, I notice there is this
>>>>            convenient-looking, alternate entry-door... into the
>>>>            dining area.
>>>> 
>>>>            And I say: "Hmm...I wonder if we are authorized to use
>>>>            that door."
>>>> 
>>>>            And you say:
>>>> 
>>>>            "We're authorized to go Anywhere we want to go."
>>>> 
>>>>            ...and I like that.
>>>> 
>>>>            Daniel
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>>            Picture of that place:
>>>>            https://twitter.com/DanielMezick/status/483054326265692161
>>>>            See also:
>>>>            https://twitter.com/danielgullo/status/483434622009999360
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>>            <mime-attachment.png>
>>>> 
>>>>            On 9/25/14 4:58 PM, Harrison Owen wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>                Daniel... You really did it! I think. Your language
>>>>                comes from a place I don?t know... which is to say
>>>>                that I probably wouldn?t say what you say in the way
>>>>                that you do (duh). BUT when I run my ?translator? it
>>>>                comes out sounding pretty good! So... I can?t help
>>>>                with the questions you have raised. Actually I think
>>>>                you are doing pretty well on your own, and
>>>>                (hopefully) will incite others to a similarly
>>>>                riotous performance. Thanks!
>>>> 
>>>>                Harrison
>>>> 
>>>>                Winter Address
>>>> 
>>>>                7808 River Falls Drive
>>>> 
>>>>                Potomac, MD 20854
>>>> 
>>>>                301-365-2093 <tel:301-365-2093>
>>>> 
>>>>                Summer Address
>>>> 
>>>>                189 Beaucaire Ave.
>>>> 
>>>>                Camden, ME 04843
>>>> 
>>>>                207-763-3261 <tel:207-763-3261>
>>>> 
>>>>                Websites
>>>> 
>>>>                www.openspaceworld.com
>>>>                <http://%20www.openspaceworld.com>
>>>> 
>>>>                www.ho-image.com <http://www.ho-image.com>
>>>> 
>>>>                OSLIST To subscribe, unsubscribe, change your
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>>>> to:http://lists.openspacetech.org/listinfo.cgi/oslist-openspacetech.org
>>>> 
>>>>                *From:*OSList
>>>>                [mailto:oslist-boun...@lists.openspacetech.org] *On
>>>>                Behalf Of *Daniel Mezick via OSList
>>>>                *Sent:* Thursday, September 25, 2014 9:39 AM
>>>>                *To:* oslist@lists.openspacetech.org
>>>>                *Subject:* [OSList] Authority Distribution in Open Space
>>>> 
>>>>                Greetings to All,
>>>> 
>>>>                For the past several years I have attended
>>>>                conferences of the Group Relations community, and
>>>>                encouraged others to do the same. I've studied their
>>>>                literature, and harvested some important learning as
>>>>                a result. One of the things I have come to
>>>>                understand a little bit better is the role of
>>>>                "authority dynamics" in self-organizing social systems.
>>>> 
>>>>                Link:
>>>>                www.akriceinstitute.org <http://www.akriceinstitute.org>
>>>> 
>>>>                Over the past several years I've been using Open
>>>>                Space with intent to improve the results of my work
>>>>                in helping companies implement Agile ideas in their
>>>>                organizations. We do an initial Open Space, then the
>>>>                folks get about 3 months to play with Agile (we
>>>>                carefully use the word "experimentation" with
>>>>                management,) then we do another Open Space after
>>>>                that, to inspect what just happened across the
>>>>                enterprise. The initial and subsequent Open Space
>>>>                events form a "safe" container or field in which the
>>>>                members can /learn/... as they explore how to
>>>>                /improve/ together by /experimenting/ with new
>>>>                practices, and see if they actually work. I call the
>>>>                process Open Agile Adoption.
>>>> 
>>>>                Link:
>>>>                OpenAgileAdoption.com <http://OpenAgileAdoption.com>
>>>> 
>>>>                This seems to work pretty good. It seems to "take
>>>>                the air out of" most of the fear, most of the
>>>>                anxiety and most of the worry that is created. The
>>>>                key aspect is /consent/: absolutely no one is forced
>>>>                to do anything they are unwilling to do. No one is
>>>>                /coerced/ to /comply/. Everyone is instead
>>>>                respectfully /invited/ to help /write/ the story,
>>>>                and be a /character/ in the story...of the
>>>>                contemplated process change. Open Agile Adoption
>>>>                encourages a spirit of experimentation and play.
>>>> 
>>>>                The spirit of Open Space is the spirit of freedom.
>>>>                Isn't it? In the OST community, we discuss and talk
>>>>                a lot about self-organization, self-management and
>>>>                self-governance. The Agile community also talks
>>>>                about these ideas a lot.
>>>> 
>>>>                So I have some questions. What is really going on
>>>>                during self-organization in a social system? What
>>>>                are the steps? What information is being sent and
>>>>                received? >From whom, and by whom? Is the
>>>>                information about /authority/ important? How
>>>>                important? Can a social system self organize without
>>>>                regard to who has the right to do what work? /How do
>>>>                decisions that affect others get made in a
>>>>                self-organizing system?/
>>>> 
>>>>                Who decides about /who decides/? How important is
>>>>                the process of /authorization/ in a self-organizing
>>>>                system? Is self-organization in large part the
>>>>                process of dynamic authorization (and
>>>>                /de-authorization/) in real time?
>>>> 
>>>>                What /is /authorization? Can self-organization occur
>>>>                without the sending and receiving of authorization
>>>>                data by and between the members?
>>>> 
>>>>                Is Bruce Tuckman's
>>>>                forming/storming/performing/adjourning actually
>>>>                decomposing the /dynamics of authorization/ inside a
>>>>                social system?
>>>> 
>>>>                The essay below attempts to answer some of these
>>>>                difficult questions. I'd love your thoughts on it.
>>>>                Will you give it a look?
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>>                Essay: Authority Distribution in Open Space
>>>>                
>>>> http://newtechusa.net/agile/authority-distribution-in-open-space/
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>>                Kind Regards,
>>>>                Daniel
>>>> 
>>>>                -- 
>>>> 
>>>>                Daniel Mezick, President
>>>> 
>>>>                New Technology Solutions Inc.
>>>> 
>>>>                (203) 915 7248 <tel:%28203%29%20915%207248> (cell)
>>>> 
>>>>                Bio <http://newtechusa.net/dan-mezick/>. Blog
>>>>                <http://newtechusa.net/blog/>. Twitter
>>>>                <http://twitter.com/#%21/danmezick/>.
>>>> 
>>>>                Examine my new book:The Culture Game
>>>>                <http://newtechusa.net/about/the-culture-game-book/>: Tools
>>>>                for the Agile Manager.
>>>> 
>>>>                Explore Agile Team Training
>>>>                <http://newtechusa.net/services/agile-scrum-training/>
>>>>                and Coaching.
>>>>                <http://newtechusa.net/services/agile-scrum-coaching/>
>>>> 
>>>>                Explore the Agile Boston
>>>>                <http://newtechusa.net/user-groups/ma/>Community.
>>>> 
>>>>            -- 
>>>> 
>>>>            Daniel Mezick, President
>>>> 
>>>>            New Technology Solutions Inc.
>>>> 
>>>>            (203) 915 7248 <tel:%28203%29%20915%207248> (cell)
>>>> 
>>>>            Bio <http://newtechusa.net/dan-mezick/>. Blog
>>>>            <http://newtechusa.net/blog/>. Twitter
>>>>            <http://twitter.com/#%21/danmezick/>.
>>>> 
>>>>            Examine my new book: The Culture Game
>>>>            <http://newtechusa.net/about/the-culture-game-book/>:
>>>>            Tools for the Agile Manager.
>>>> 
>>>>            Explore Agile Team Training
>>>>            <http://newtechusa.net/services/agile-scrum-training/>
>>>>            and Coaching.
>>>>            <http://newtechusa.net/services/agile-scrum-coaching/>
>>>> 
>>>>            Explore the Agile Boston
>>>>            <http://newtechusa.net/user-groups/ma/>Community.
>>>> 
>>>> 
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>>>>        -- 
>>>> 
>>>>        Daniel Mezick, President
>>>> 
>>>>        New Technology Solutions Inc.
>>>> 
>>>>        (203) 915 7248 <tel:%28203%29%20915%207248> (cell)
>>>> 
>>>>        Bio <http://newtechusa.net/dan-mezick/>. Blog
>>>>        <http://newtechusa.net/blog/>. Twitter
>>>>        <http://twitter.com/#%21/danmezick/>.
>>>> 
>>>>        Examine my new book: The Culture Game
>>>>        <http://newtechusa.net/about/the-culture-game-book/>: Tools
>>>>        for the Agile Manager.
>>>> 
>>>>        Explore Agile Team Training
>>>>        <http://newtechusa.net/services/agile-scrum-training/> and
>>>>        Coaching. <http://newtechusa.net/services/agile-scrum-coaching/>
>>>> 
>>>>        Explore the Agile Boston
>>>>        <http://newtechusa.net/user-groups/ma/>Community.
>>>> 
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>>>    Daniel Mezick, President
>>> 
>>>    New Technology Solutions Inc.
>>> 
>>>    (203) 915 7248 <tel:%28203%29%20915%207248> (cell)
>>> 
>>>    Bio <http://newtechusa.net/dan-mezick/>. Blog
>>>    <http://newtechusa.net/blog/>. Twitter
>>>    <http://twitter.com/#%21/danmezick/>.
>>> 
>>>    Examine my new book:The Culture Game
>>>    <http://newtechusa.net/about/the-culture-game-book/>: Tools for
>>>    the Agile Manager.
>>> 
>>>    Explore Agile Team Training
>>>    <http://newtechusa.net/services/agile-scrum-training/> and
>>>    Coaching. <http://newtechusa.net/services/agile-scrum-coaching/>
>>> 
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> Examine my new book:The Culture Game 
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> Explore Agile Team Training 
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OS</div><div><br></div><div>Yes! Peggy. I've observed that people always build 
infrastructure, tacit as well as formal. &nbsp;</div><div><br></div><div>To me 
OS infrastructure serves flow. &nbsp;Flow happens when resonance within me (the 
participant) (what i care about/love) connects with resonance within you and 
innerly with the resonating meme in the transfinite field. Hence the Law of Two 
Feet (as i interpret it) "take responsibility (or follow) for what you care 
about/love." And the principles of OS remind you how to make it easy on 
yourself; while the minimal patterns require little interpretation because 
they're self evident, natural human patterns of gathering and 
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digest..."</span><br><span></span><br><span></span><br><span>Today's 
Topics:</span><br><span></span><br><span> &nbsp;&nbsp;1. Re: Private vs Public 
OST Differences? (John Baxter via OSList)</span><br><span> &nbsp;&nbsp;2. 
Patterns of OST - to whom is this of interest?</span><br><span> 
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;(John Baxter via OSList)</span><br><span> 
&nbsp;&nbsp;3. Re: Patterns of OST - to whom is this of 
interest?</span><br><span> &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;(Chris Corrigan via 
OSList)</span><br><span> &nbsp;&nbsp;4. Re: Authority in Open Space - "All Open 
Space"</span><br><span> &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;(John Baxter via 
OSList)</span><br><span> &nbsp;&nbsp;5. Re: Private vs Public OST Differences? 
(Daniel Mezick via OSList)</span><br><span> &nbsp;&nbsp;6. Re: Private vs 
Public OST Differences? (Michael Herman via OSList)</span><br><span> 
&nbsp;&nbsp;7. Re: Authority in Open Space - "All Open Space"</span><br><span> 
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;(Daniel Mezick via 
OSList)</span><br><span></span><br><span></span><br><span>----------------------------------------------------------------------</span><br><span></span><br><span>Message:
 1</span><br><span>Date: Fri, 17 Oct 2014 14:24:20 +1030</span><br><span>From: 
John Baxter via OSList &lt;<a 
href="mailto:oslist@lists.openspacetech.org";>oslist@lists.openspacetech.org</a>&gt;</span><br><span>To:
 Peggy Holman &lt;<a 
href="mailto:pe...@peggyholman.com";>pe...@peggyholman.com</a>&gt;,  &nbsp; 
&nbsp;World wide Open Space</span><br><span> &nbsp; &nbsp;Technology email list 
&nbsp; &nbsp;&lt;<a 
href="mailto:oslist@lists.openspacetech.org";>oslist@lists.openspacetech.org</a>&gt;</span><br><span>Subject:
 Re: [OSList] Private vs Public OST 
Differences?</span><br><span>Message-ID:</span><br><span> &nbsp; &nbsp;&lt;<a 
href="mailto:CAJpg6=R=nd_wi1esvjns0yx_pskeoskelo0ljjoktcdw1yc...@mail.gmail.com";>CAJpg6=R=nd_wi1esvjns0yx_pskeoskelo0ljjoktcdw1yc...@mail.gmail.com</a>&gt;</span><br><span>Content-Type:
 text/plain; charset="utf-8"</span><br><span></span><br><span>Amen to the 
infrastructure you talk of Peggy.</span><br><span></span><br><span>I think of 
an OST gathering as really just a piece of infrastructure in 
an</span><br><span>ongoing social field (an open space if you will), and it is 
perfectly</span><br><span>reasonable to wonder whether other infrastructures 
can not also (or</span><br><span>alternatively) serve the ongoing space - 
especially facilitating</span><br><span>information 
flows.</span><br><span></span><br><span></span><br><span>*John 
Baxter*</span><br><span>*?Co?Create Adelaide Facilitator, Director of Realise 
consultancy*</span><br><span><a 
href="http://CoCreateADL.com";>CoCreateADL.com</a>? &lt;<a 
href="http://cocreateadl.com/localgov%E2%80%8B";>http://cocreateadl.com/localgov%E2%80%8B</a>&gt;
 |</span><br><span><a href="http://jsbaxter.com.au";>jsbaxter.com.au</a> &lt;<a 
href="http://www.jsbaxter.com.au/";>http://www.jsbaxter.com.au/</a>&gt;</span><br><span>0405
 447 829</span><br><span>? | ?</span><br><span>@jsbaxter_ &lt;<a 
href="http://twitter.com/jsbaxter_";>http://twitter.com/jsbaxter_</a>&gt;</span><br><span></span><br><span></span><br><span>*City
 Grill? An Election Forum More Magnificent Than Any Ever 
Seen</span><br><span>&lt;<a 
href="http://citygrill.eventbrite.com.au";>http://citygrill.eventbrite.com.au</a>&gt;!,
 Saturday 18 October 2014Connect with</span><br><span>your candidates, get your 
voice heard by joining with others in your</span><br><span>community, and 
Influence the future of the 
city*</span><br><span></span><br><span></span><br><span>On Fri, Oct 17, 2014 at 
2:54 AM, Peggy Holman via OSList &lt;</span><br><span><a 
href="mailto:oslist@lists.openspacetech.org";>oslist@lists.openspacetech.org</a>&gt;
 wrote:</span><br><span></span><br><blockquote 
type="cite"><span>Michael,</span><br></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>Yes! 
You captured the dynamics I've experienced with public 
events</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>beautifully! The 
call of the invitation that doesn't seem to say 
anything</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>specific but 
people say I know I need to be there.</span><br></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>And the 
proceedings on the side of the desk. It speaks to the way I 
think</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>about the role of 
infrastructure for public events.</span><br></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>To your 
comment:</span><br></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>which 
makes me wonder if the work in public spaces is not so much 
about</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>building 
infrastructure, which people can easily build for themselves 
and</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>also already exists in 
many ways, but rather finding ways to point out 
over</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>and over again 
through the event that the work of participants does not 
end</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>with the 
closing.</span><br></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>I go 
back to my previous message on infrastructure in public 
settings.</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>Infrastructure 
that supports connection and makes stories visible 
can</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>amplify the nature 
energies that emerge from a public event.</span><br></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><span>Peggy</span><br></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><span>Sent from my iPad</span><br></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><span>425-746-6274</span><br></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><span><a 
href="http://www.peggyholman.com";>www.peggyholman.com</a></span><br></blockquote><blockquote
 type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>On Oct 
16, 2014, at 6:29 AM, Michael Herman via OSList 
&lt;</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span><a 
href="mailto:oslist@lists.openspacetech.org";>oslist@lists.openspacetech.org</a>&gt;
 wrote:</span><br></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>some 
years ago i facilitated the first illinois food security summit, 
a</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>public meeting of very 
diverse group of about 200, convened by a 
big</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>foundation. &nbsp;at 
the end of the event, one of the common reflections 
heard</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>throughout the space 
was something like, "i can't believe we didn't 
know</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>each other already 
(given that we're all doing such similar 
work/have</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>similar 
interests)." &nbsp;the following year, the two things i heard over 
and</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>over again were 
something like "i still have last year's 
proceedings</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>sitting on the 
corner of my desk" and "we're all still talking." &nbsp;i 
think</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>we have to be 
careful not to impose internal standards for "action" on 
more</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>distributed public 
meeting/working. &nbsp;having the proceedings (and 
its</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>priorities and plans) 
at their fingertips and having so many 
connections</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>still active 
was definite progress and was informing all kinds of 
activity.</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span> there just 
wasn't a "center" working to score that and own it like 
there</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>would be inside of 
an organization. &nbsp;which makes me wonder if the work 
in</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>public spaces is not so 
much about building infrastructure, which 
people</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>can easily build 
for themselves and also already exists in many ways, 
but</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>rather finding ways to 
point out over and over again through the event 
that</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>the work of 
participants does not end with the closing.</span><br></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>also, 
to the challenge of public invitations, we wrote 37 drafts of 
6</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>different editions of 
the invitation to what we called "the giving</span><br></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><span>conference." &nbsp;the big challenge was that there was very 
little language</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>shared 
among the several very different groups/communities of people 
we</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>wanted to invite. 
&nbsp;in the end, people said, "the crazy thing is that 
i'm</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>here, because the 
invitation really didn't say ANYTHING, but when i 
read</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>it, i knew i had to 
be here."</span><br></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><span>m</span><br></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><span>--</span><br></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>Michael 
Herman</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>Michael Herman 
Associates</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>312-280-7838 
(mobile)</span><br></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span><a 
href="http://MichaelHerman.com";>http://MichaelHerman.com</a></span><br></blockquote><blockquote
 type="cite"><span><a 
href="http://OpenSpaceWorld.org";>http://OpenSpaceWorld.org</a></span><br></blockquote><blockquote
 type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>On Thu, 
Oct 16, 2014 at 3:07 AM, John Baxter via OSList 
&lt;</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span><a 
href="mailto:oslist@lists.openspacetech.org";>oslist@lists.openspacetech.org</a>&gt;
 wrote:</span><br></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote 
type="cite"><span>Amen to the time consuming nature of 
"invitations".</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><blockquote 
type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>Of course, if you don't have a 
discrete list with an 
established</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>relationship to each member, the 
material nature of the activity 
isn't</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote 
type="cite"><span>"invitation", but marketing and promotion... &nbsp;I haven't 
worked on a public</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>event where the promotion was not the 
hardest part.</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><blockquote 
type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><blockquote 
type="cite"><span>Cheers</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><blockquote 
type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><blockquote 
type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>*John 
Baxter*</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote 
type="cite"><span>*?Co?Create Adelaide Facilitator, Director of Realise 
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type="cite"><span>? | ?</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>@jsbaxter_ &lt;<a 
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 type="cite"><blockquote 
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type="cite"><blockquote 
type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>*City Grill? An Election Forum More 
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 Saturday 18 October 2014Connect 
with</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote 
type="cite"><span>your candidates, get your voice heard by joining with others 
in your</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote 
type="cite"><span>community, and Influence the future of the 
city*</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote 
type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><blockquote 
type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>On Thu, Oct 16, 2014 at 3:31 AM, 
Peggy Holman via OSList &lt;</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span><a 
href="mailto:oslist@lists.openspacetech.org";>oslist@lists.openspacetech.org</a>&gt;
 wrote:</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote 
type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>I?d echo 
Christine?s observations about infrastructure. So much of 
that</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>is something 
that you can take for granted in an organization and 
requires</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>some thought 
when dealing with public 
settings.</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote 
type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>A couple 
other distinctions I?ve 
noticed:</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote 
type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote 
type="cite"><span>Organizational events are high context. A calling question is 
asked</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>within an 
existing culture. That?s both a blessing and a curse. It 
means</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>that there?s 
much that doesn?t need explaining. And it means there 
are</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>unconscious 
habits of relating and behaving present. Not bad. Just 
the</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote 
type="cite"><span>territory.</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote
 type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote 
type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>Examples: I 
was recently with a group that had an internal clock 
for</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>half an hour 
meetings. It was interesting watching their rhythm shift 
over</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>the course of 
the Open Space. For that same event, I spent about 10 
minutes</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>with the 
leadership team before we started encouraging them to 
be</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>themselves 
and participate, like everyone else. They bring a unique 
and</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>valuable 
perspective, as do others. And their voices carry a weight 
they</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>might not 
appreciate because of their place in the hierarchy. So if 
they</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>found 
themselves the center of attention, I suggested that it?s a good 
time</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>to ask a 
question that gives the focus back to the group. Or use the law 
of</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>two feet and 
go elsewhere.</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote 
type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>Public events 
don?t have the context of an existing culture. So 
the</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>calling 
question may have a much wider variation in meaning to people 
who</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>come. And 
there may be fewer existing relationships and norms. Again, 
not</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>bad. Just 
different.</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote 
type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>Many years 
ago I was part of a team that did a public event with 
a</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>calling 
question so broad that people had multiple interpretations of 
it.</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>The question: 
*How do we support a movement toward the 
conscious</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>evolution of 
increasingly conscious social systems? 
*(See</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span><a 
href="http://www.thegreatstory.org/ev-salon2.html";>http://www.thegreatstory.org/ev-salon2.html</a>).
 A number of people 
on</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>this list 
were part of it. &nbsp;People showed up because they were attracted 
to</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>the hosts or 
something about the question spoke to them. It was wild, 
fun,</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>and creative. 
And there was a demand on the second day to hear from 
the</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>organizers 
what we meant by the question, just for more 
context.</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote 
type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>The other 
thing I?ve learned is that the process of invitation can 
be</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>much more 
intense for public events. In organizations, the bulk 
of</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>participation 
is internal. While there are certainly issues with ensuring 
a</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>spirit of 
invitation, who to invite and how to reach them is 
pretty</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote 
type="cite"><span>straightforward.</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote
 type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote 
type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>For public 
events, I find that if you want a diversity of 
folks,</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>inviting can 
be the most time consuming activity of all. I did some 
work</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>with the 
Forest Service years ago to look at the future of the forests 
in</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>the San 
Bernardino Mountains in California. They were heading into a 
rough</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>fire season, 
felt they?d done everything they could do to prepare. 
While</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>they had the 
public?s attention, they wanted to look to the future, 
50</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>years out. We 
worked with them to identify the range of people who 
cared,</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>including 
state, local, federal, and regional government, 
community</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote 
type="cite"><span>organizations, chamber of commerce, insurance companies 
(small, but</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>influential), 
ranchers who leased land in the national 
forests,</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>environmental 
groups, and on and on. Getting the word out to all 
these</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>folks took 
some thought.</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote 
type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote 
type="cite"><span>Peggy</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote
 type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote 
type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote 
type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote 
type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote 
type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote 
type="cite"><span>_________________________________</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote
 type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>Peggy 
Holman</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>Executive 
Director</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>Journalism 
that Matters</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>15347 SE 49th 
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 type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span><a 
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 type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span><a 
href="http://www.peggyholman.com";>www.peggyholman.com</a></span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote
 type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>Twitter: 
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 type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>&lt;<a 
href="http://www.journalismthatmatters.net/the_emerging_news_and_information_eco_system";>http://www.journalismthatmatters.net/the_emerging_news_and_information_eco_system</a>&gt;</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote
 type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote 
type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote 
type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote 
type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote 
type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote 
type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote 
type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote 
type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote 
type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>On Oct 15, 
2014, at 8:43 AM, Christine Whitney Sanchez via OSList 
&lt;</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span><a 
href="mailto:oslist@lists.openspacetech.org";>oslist@lists.openspacetech.org</a>&gt;
 wrote:</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote 
type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>Daniel and 
all,</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote 
type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>In my 
experience, public events have the same buzz and 
meaningful</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>results as an 
in-organization OST. &nbsp;I?ve facilitated a number of them 
that</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>were 
sponsored by a group of organizations in the community. &nbsp;For instance, 
Vibrant</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>Phoenix 
&lt;<a 
href="http://vibrantphx.com/next-actions/top-ideas/";>http://vibrantphx.com/next-actions/top-ideas/</a>&gt;,
 was a very</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>productive 
economic development OST, sponsored by two mayors of 
large</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote 
type="cite"><span>municipalities and several local businesses. &nbsp;One of the 
business sponsors</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>agreed to be 
the contact for folks who wanted to take their 
?actionable</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>ideas? to the 
next level. &nbsp;However, there was no budget and 
no</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote 
type="cite"><span>infrastructure to really keep folks connected the the ideas 
they cared the</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>most 
about.</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote 
type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>This is where 
the public open spaces generally fall short. &nbsp;Because 
the</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>ongoing 
action is not the core mission of any of these organizations, it 
is</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>hoped that 
the participants will self-organize going forward. &nbsp;With 
very</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>few 
exceptions, this does not happen. &nbsp;I believe that sponsorship for 
the</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>work after 
the OST is what is called 
for.</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote 
type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>The 
Collective Impact</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>&lt;<a 
href="http://www.ssireview.org/blog/entry/channeling_change_making_collective_impact_work";>http://www.ssireview.org/blog/entry/channeling_change_making_collective_impact_work</a>&gt;
 model</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>speaks to 
this. &nbsp;It?s nothing new, really, but does represent a simple 
way</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>to talk about 
the necessary conditions for sustaining collective action. 
&nbsp;I</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>now include 
my version of this model when I talk with potential sponsors 
to</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>shine the 
light beyond the meeting so that we can discuss their 
intentions</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>for providing 
backbone support for self-organized action going 
forward.</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote 
type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>I especially 
love public Open Space events and look forward to 
working</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>with sponsors 
who see the meeting as merely the first small step 
in</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>collaborative 
action. &nbsp;There is so much 
potential!</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote 
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type="cite"><span>Christine</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote
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type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>On Oct 15, 
2014, at 6:33 AM, Daniel Mezick via OSList 
&lt;</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span><a 
href="mailto:oslist@lists.openspacetech.org";>oslist@lists.openspacetech.org</a>&gt;
 wrote:</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote 
type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span> Greetings To 
All,</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote 
type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>I notice that 
there are many big differences 
between</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote 
type="cite"><span>public-conference-type OST events, and OST events arranged 
for</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote 
type="cite"><span>organizations.</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote
 type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote 
type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>Do you also 
notice this? Maybe I am imagining this....just making 
stuff</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote 
type="cite"><span>up...</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote
 type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote 
type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>...maybe not. 
In many key dimensions, I experience these differences 
as</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>striking. 
Even disturbing.</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote 
type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote 
type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote 
type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>And so I have 
been poking around inside the GUIDE (3rd edition) and 
I</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>notice that, 
in some spots, the implication is that the discussion is 
about</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>a public 
event. Up to page 18 for example, this implication is 
clear:</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote 
type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote 
type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>&lt;THE GUIDE 
PAGE 18&gt;</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote 
type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>Working With 
The Client if you ARE NOT the 
Sponsor</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote 
type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>"To this 
point I have assumed that you (the reader) will be the 
sponsor</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>and 
facilitator of the Open Space, and therefore *it is your 
decision</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>as to whether 
or not to proceed*...(*emphasis 
added.*)</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote 
type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>&lt;/THE 
GUIDE PAGE 18&gt;</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote 
type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote 
type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote 
type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>My current 
belief is that having the same person in the Sponsor 
role</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>**and** the 
Facilitator role is probably a very bad idea for an OST event 
*inside</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>an 
organization*. For the typical public-conference event on the 
other</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>hand, this 
seems to work just fine. Kinda like a Barcamp or 
Unconference....</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote 
type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote 
type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>Another 
current belief I hold is that OST is the essential tool 
for</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>creating 
"Development and Transformation in Organizations". It is 
best</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>suited for 
use in 
organizations.</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote 
type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>It is 
interesting to note how the Barcamp and/or "Unconference" 
formats</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>seem to get 
the same or as-good results as Open Space, in the 
public</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>conference 
setting.</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote 
type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>Not so inside 
organizations! In fact, as of now, I don't think 
Barcamp</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>or 
Unconference has any chance whatsoever at being effective in 
bringing</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>about 
Development and Transformation in Organizations the way Open 
Space</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>can. 
Something about the 
Sponsor?</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote 
type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote 
type="cite"><span>Daniel</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote
 type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote 
type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote 
type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote 
type="cite"><span>--</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote
 type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote 
type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>Daniel 
Mezick, President</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote 
type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>New 
Technology Solutions 
Inc.</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote 
type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>(203) 915 
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type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote 
type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
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href="http://newtechusa.net/dan-mezick/";>http://newtechusa.net/dan-mezick/</a>&gt;.
 Blog</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
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 2</span><br><span>Date: Fri, 17 Oct 2014 14:58:12 +1030</span><br><span>From: 
John Baxter via OSList &lt;<a 
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 [OSList] Patterns of OST - to whom is this of 
interest?</span><br><span>Message-ID:</span><br><span> &nbsp; &nbsp;&lt;<a 
href="mailto:CAJpg6=q2wo+afeqb48e_dcavgw0qgrgo_qsq-j31w32vvlb...@mail.gmail.com";>CAJpg6=q2wo+afeqb48e_dcavgw0qgrgo_qsq-j31w32vvlb...@mail.gmail.com</a>&gt;</span><br><span>Content-Type:
 text/plain; charset="utf-8"</span><br><span></span><br><span>Hello 
all</span><br><span></span><br><span>My interest at the moment is to learn 
simply, who here is interested in</span><br><span>pattern languages and Open 
Space?</span><br><span></span><br><span>I introduced myself to the Facebook 
group by asking who is interested in</span><br><span>pattern languages. 
&nbsp;It seems to be kick starting a discussion, but 
Artur</span><br><span>Silva points out that would be better suited to OSList. 
&nbsp;So abracadabra,</span><br><span>here we 
are!</span><br><span></span><br><span>Artur referred to a (~2009) conversation 
on the "Foundations of OST", which</span><br><span>came close to the topic 
without being explicit. &nbsp;I will explore this</span><br><span>sometime 
soon.</span><br><span></span><br><span>I personally have a long-term interest 
in patterns for participatory</span><br><span>processes, and use patterns as a 
frame to extrapolate lessons from OST to</span><br><span>apply in other 
contexts.</span><br><span></span><br><span>If these things are of interest I 
welcome a conversation : 
)</span><br><span></span><br><span>Cheers</span><br><span></span><br><span>*John
 Baxter*</span><br><span>*?Co?Create Adelaide Facilitator, Director of Realise 
consultancy*</span><br><span><a 
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Chris Corrigan via OSList &lt;<a 
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 John Baxter &lt;<a 
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 Re: [OSList] Patterns of OST - to whom is this of 
interest?</span><br><span>Message-ID: &lt;<a 
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group pattern language project 
interesting...</span><br><span></span><br><span><a 
href="http://groupworksdeck.org";>http://groupworksdeck.org</a></span><br><span></span><br><span>Chris</span><br><span></span><br><span>--
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Consultants</span><br><span>Facilitation, Open Space Technology and process 
design </span><br><span></span><br><span>Check <a 
href="http://www.chriscorrigan.com";>www.chriscorrigan.com</a> for upcoming 
workshops, blog posts and free resources. 
</span><br><span></span><br><span></span><br><span></span><br><blockquote 
type="cite"><span>On Oct 16, 2014, at 9:28 PM, John Baxter via OSList &lt;<a 
href="mailto:oslist@lists.openspacetech.org";>oslist@lists.openspacetech.org</a>&gt;
 wrote:</span><br></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>Hello 
all</span><br></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>My 
interest at the moment is to learn simply, who here is interested in pattern 
languages and Open Space?</span><br></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>I 
introduced myself to the Facebook group by asking who is interested in pattern 
languages. &nbsp;It seems to be kick starting a discussion, but Artur Silva 
points out that would be better suited to OSList. &nbsp;So abracadabra, here we 
are!</span><br></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>Artur 
referred to a (~2009) conversation on the "Foundations of OST", which came 
close to the topic without being explicit. &nbsp;I will explore this sometime 
soon.</span><br></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>I 
personally have a long-term interest in patterns for participatory processes, 
and use patterns as a frame to extrapolate lessons from OST to apply in other 
contexts.</span><br></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>If 
these things are of interest I welcome a conversation : 
)</span><br></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><span>Cheers</span><br></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>John 
Baxter</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>?Co?Create Adelaide 
Facilitator, Director of Realise consultancy</span><br></blockquote><blockquote 
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 4</span><br><span>Date: Fri, 17 Oct 2014 21:31:40 +1030</span><br><span>From: 
John Baxter via OSList &lt;<a 
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 paul levy &lt;<a 
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&nbsp; &nbsp;World wide Open Space</span><br><span> &nbsp; &nbsp;Technology 
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 Re: [OSList] Authority in Open Space - "All Open 
Space"</span><br><span>Message-ID:</span><br><span> &nbsp; &nbsp;&lt;<a 
href="mailto:CAJpg6=S9NBRWU2emSRO+YMCR2UZ2=+z21ed_qpz67nemmcw...@mail.gmail.com";>CAJpg6=S9NBRWU2emSRO+YMCR2UZ2=+z21ed_qpz67nemmcw...@mail.gmail.com</a>&gt;</span><br><span>Content-Type:
 text/plain; charset="utf-8"</span><br><span></span><br><span>I don't think you 
need to be so qualified, Paul;</span><br><span>3.) All "all statements" are 
*positively* self limiting.</span><br><span></span><br><span>But then if I 
gather correctly, it's all a joke anyway.</span><br><span></span><br><span>So 
from that vantage point... what do we do 
now?</span><br><span></span><br><span></span><br><span>*John 
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city*</span><br><span></span><br><span></span><br><span>On Fri, Oct 17, 2014 at 
8:59 AM, paul levy via OSList &lt;</span><br><span><a 
href="mailto:oslist@lists.openspacetech.org";>oslist@lists.openspacetech.org</a>&gt;
 wrote:</span><br><span></span><br><blockquote type="cite"><span>Of course ! 
It's the wonderful irony of "all" 
statements.</span><br></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><span>Paul</span><br></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>On 16 
Oct 2014, at 22:43, Daniel Mezick via OSList 
&lt;</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span><a 
href="mailto:oslist@lists.openspacetech.org";>oslist@lists.openspacetech.org</a>&gt;
 wrote:</span><br></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><span>Including this one?</span><br></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>On 
10/16/14 2:15 PM, paul levy via OSList 
wrote:</span><br></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>I'd 
just venture to add a third to Harrison's first 
two...</span><br></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span> 
&nbsp;1) All Systems are Open. 2) All Systems are self 
organizing.</span><br></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span> And 3. 
All "all statements" are possibly 
self-limiting</span><br></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span> Best 
regards</span><br></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span> Paul 
Levy</span><br></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>On 
Thursday, 16 October 2014, Harrison Owen via OSList 
&lt;</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span><a 
href="mailto:oslist@lists.openspacetech.org";>oslist@lists.openspacetech.org</a>&gt;
 wrote:</span><br></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote 
type="cite"><span> John ? Thank you, Thank you for all the rich stuff! Sort of 
a Tidal</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote 
type="cite"><span>Wave, but that?s when it gets fun, albeit a tad difficult to 
keep track of</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>the sundry bits and pieces 
J</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote 
type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><blockquote 
type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><blockquote 
type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>Picking Just One: &nbsp;&nbsp;?But I 
can't get past the feeling that *there 
are</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote 
type="cite"><span>lots of barriers to the openness of space, and to self 
organisation*.?</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>Absolutely. And if we were to put 
that into the language of the 
trade</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote 
type="cite"><span>(Complexity Theorists and the like) we would be talking about 
?system</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote 
type="cite"><span>constraints.? But as I understand it, that does not mean that 
Self</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote 
type="cite"><span>Organization is no longer operative. And in fact the System 
Constraints are</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>part and parcel of the process, a 
very important part. I think it 
goes</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote 
type="cite"><span>something like this 
?</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote 
type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><blockquote 
type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><blockquote 
type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>I have found myself coming to 
&nbsp;two conclusions, or better 
yet</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote 
type="cite"><span>observations. 1) All Systems are Open. 2) All Systems are 
self organizing.</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><blockquote 
type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><blockquote 
type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><blockquote 
type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>As Open Systems, we, in all 
permutations of our ?us-ness? ? 
businesses,</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>countries, families, planets, etc) 
are open to, and impacted by, all 
other</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote 
type="cite"><span>systems. Sometimes a lot, and sometimes a little, but in our 
cosmos there</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>is no safe, protected place. 
Everything is related to everything else, 
and</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote 
type="cite"><span>we are no exception. If true, this has a number of 
implications. First of</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>all the environment in which we exist 
is so complex, fast moving and</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>inter-connected we can?t even think 
at that level. Secondly, what you 
can?t</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote 
type="cite"><span>even think about, you can?t control. So the notion that 
somebody is</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>actually ?in charge/in control? is 
not just a silly idea, it is 
delusional.</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>3) System preservation/growth depends 
on our &nbsp;ability to navigate 
this</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote 
type="cite"><span>environment. And it is a good news/bad news situation. 
Sometimes the</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>impacts drive us in new and creative 
directions, and open up new</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>opportunities which are ours if we 
respond appropriately. At other 
times</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote 
type="cite"><span>the impacts drive us to the wall, and it?s Game over. Another 
word is</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote 
type="cite"><span>Death. If this story is in any ways valid, it would seem like 
Mission</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote 
type="cite"><span>Impossible. And yet this story has seemingly been going on 
for 13.7 Billion</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>years and we are still here to 
complain about it. How could that 
be?</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote 
type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><blockquote 
type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><blockquote 
type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>All Systems are Self Organizing ? 
Self Organization is in fact 
the</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote 
type="cite"><span>mechanism whereby we navigate the environment, and all 
systems do it, I</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>think. And when they stop doing it, 
they disappear. Self Organization 
is</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote 
type="cite"><span>not the product of some CEO or executive committee. After 
all, they really</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>haven?t been around for all that 
long. Self Organization is the product 
of</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote 
type="cite"><span>the total system in all of its aspects and bits and pieces. 
How all that</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>works has been a matter of stunning 
discovery over the past 40 years or 
so.</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote 
type="cite"><span>I doubt we have it all right, but I do think we may have the 
major elements</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>of understanding in place. The 
outline goes something like this ? a) 
Steady</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote 
type="cite"><span>State b) Chaos c) A bifurcation to either dissipation (poof) 
or</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote 
type="cite"><span>reconstitution at new and higher levels of order. Of course 
you have to</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>fill in a lot of the blanks, and 
there is a massive literature 
attempting</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>to do just that. But I do believe we 
have enough to get started with 
some</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote 
type="cite"><span>basic observations. It really is a Whole System affair, in 
which all</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>elements must work together, and no 
element has an *a priori* claim 
to</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote 
type="cite"><span>centrality. In a business this could mean that the dumb 
question of an</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>intern could just open the doors for 
the future. You just don?t know. 
But</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote 
type="cite"><span>you do know that an organization?s future directly relates to 
its capacity</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>to bring total system assets to bear 
on emergent challenges and</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>opportunities quickly and 
effectively. It is always tempting to &nbsp;try 
and</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote 
type="cite"><span>?hedge the bet? with some plan, policy or procedure, but it 
worthwhile</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>noting that the tighter (more 
constraining) the plan, the greater 
the</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote 
type="cite"><span>likelihood of failure. It?s not that the plan was bad... but 
unfortunately</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>the challenge or opportunity came 
from a different direction, and all 
our</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote 
type="cite"><span>eggs were in one basket ? the wrong 
one.</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote 
type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><blockquote 
type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><blockquote 
type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>So we have a very existential 
question ? How do we assure sufficient 
room</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote 
type="cite"><span>(dare I say Space?) so that the infinite elements of any 
organization may</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>quickly and effectively align to meet 
new challenges and opportunities 
?</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote 
type="cite"><span>recognizing in advance that we can never know what will be 
required?</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><blockquote 
type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><blockquote 
type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><blockquote 
type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>Open Space Technology is just a bit 
player in all of this, but good 
old</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote 
type="cite"><span>OST can be useful none the less both as a natural laboratory 
to explore</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>what is going on, and also as an 
effective intervention to encourage 
the</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote 
type="cite"><span>appearance of the elemental power of self organization, 
particularly when</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>it seems blocked and constrained. 
&nbsp;There are no guarantees of course, 
and</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote 
type="cite"><span>it may well be that The Organization?s time is now: Game 
Over. But the</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>chances of renewal are pretty good, 
at least that has been my 
experience.</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>And no matter what, the magic sauce 
is not OST ? but the power of 
self</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote 
type="cite"><span>organization. So you could say, just as a way of speaking, 
?It?s all Open</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>Space.? But that?s just a joke, 
son.</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote 
type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><blockquote 
type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><blockquote 
type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><blockquote 
type="cite"><span>Harrison</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><blockquote 
type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><blockquote 
type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><blockquote 
type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><blockquote 
type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><blockquote 
type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>Winter 
Address</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote 
type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>7808 River Falls 
Drive</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote 
type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>Potomac, MD 
20854</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote 
type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><blockquote 
type="cite"><span>301-365-2093</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><blockquote 
type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><blockquote 
type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
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type="cite"><span>Behalf Of *John Baxter via 
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type="cite"><span>*Sent:* Thursday, October 16, 2014 2:57 
AM</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote 
type="cite"><span>*To:* Harrison 
Owen</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote 
type="cite"><span>*Cc:* World wide Open Space Technology email 
list</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote 
type="cite"><span>*Subject:* Re: [OSList] Authority Distribution in Open 
Space</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote 
type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><blockquote 
type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><blockquote 
type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>I have knots about empowerment, and 
the ubiquitous openness of 
space.</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote 
type="cite"><span>These knots are about to inspire a 
rant.</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote 
type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
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type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><blockquote 
type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>These knots, I should start with, are 
not entirely the result of this</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>present discussion thread - it is 
just this discussion that prompts me 
to</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote 
type="cite"><span>speak.</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><blockquote 
type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><blockquote 
type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><blockquote 
type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>I think I understand Harrison, if you 
suggest that self-organisation 
is</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote 
type="cite"><span>more common than we realise... if not ubiquitous, 
omnipresent, then at</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>least that we can fruitfully 
challenge the assumption that formal 
and</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote 
type="cite"><span>top-down organisation dominates how things get 
done.</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote 
type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><blockquote 
type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><blockquote 
type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>But I can't get past the feeling that 
*there are lots of barriers to 
the</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote 
type="cite"><span>openness of space, and to self organisation*. 
&nbsp;Everywhere and all the</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>time. &nbsp;In my recent work, mental 
barriers by all involved about 
authority</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>and role relationships. &nbsp;My 
personal barriers around trying too hard 
to</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote 
type="cite"><span>"empower". &nbsp;My client's patronising assumptions about 
the "capacity" and</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>"maturity" of "the sector". 
&nbsp;Information asymmetries.</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><blockquote 
type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><blockquote 
type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><blockquote 
type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>So I get really conflicted when 
anyone starts saying "well space is 
open</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote 
type="cite"><span>all the time" (implication: 'so chill out cos there's nothing 
you need to</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><blockquote 
type="cite"><span>do').</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><blockquote 
type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><blockquote 
type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><blockquote 
type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>I am also conflicted about stepping 
back from the goal of empowerment, 
as</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote 
type="cite"><span>if everybody else needs to just step into open space and 
take</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote 
type="cite"><span>responsibility.</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote
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type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><blockquote 
type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>Yes - many people don't realise the 
power that they have. &nbsp;(In my 
last</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote 
type="cite"><span>project; nobody seemed to quite buy into the fact that *they 
could</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote 
type="cite"><span>directly author the document that they were trying to 
influence*.)</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><blockquote 
type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><blockquote 
type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><blockquote 
type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>But it is also patronising to suggest 
that empowerment lies in just</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>helping people to see how powerful 
they are... because many people</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>*don't* have the power that we or 
they might like. &nbsp;To suggest 
that</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote 
type="cite"><span>people have the power and just don't use it... that 
effectively blames them</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>for their situation, and washes our 
hands of responsibility.</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><blockquote 
type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><blockquote 
type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><blockquote 
type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>The biggest barrier to group change I 
see time and time again is</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>authority figures who believe others 
need to change, not themselves. 
&nbsp;(Most</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>commonly, that their employees need 
to "be empowered", and that they 
need</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote 
type="cite"><span>to manage a culture change program to get there... or better 
yet, that HR</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>needs to manage the change program, 
while we are busy getting the real 
work</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote 
type="cite"><span>done.)</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><blockquote 
type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><blockquote 
type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><blockquote 
type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>I don't pretend that empowerment is 
something that can be done to 
other</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote 
type="cite"><span>people (patronising), but I do firmly believe that we all 
first need to</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>look to ourselves and what we need to 
do to play our role making such 
a</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote 
type="cite"><span>future possible. &nbsp;And, in fact, that *this is all that 
we can ever do*.</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><blockquote 
type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><blockquote 
type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><blockquote 
type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>Maybe the wisdom in what you say 
Harrison is that we do this by 
focusing</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>on respect first, as a productive way 
to enable empowerment.</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><blockquote 
type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
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type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><blockquote 
type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>Maybe I am picking on the wrong 
things and have misunderstood them, and 
I</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote 
type="cite"><span>apologise if I have been critical. &nbsp;But I also see a lot 
of things said</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>that make me uncomfortable, that knot 
me up. &nbsp;Again, most of these 
things</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote 
type="cite"><span>are from my memory, not the present discussion. &nbsp;While 
my memory might not</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>be the best, I'm sure it is based on 
something.</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
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type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><blockquote 
type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>Thank you all for your patience and 
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type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>On Wed, Oct 15, 2014 at 6:06 AM, 
Harrison Owen &lt;<a 
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 type="cite"><blockquote 
type="cite"><span>wrote:</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><blockquote 
type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>John -- I?m rather curious what you 
meant by ?The overall project 
was</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote 
type="cite"><span>more complicated than OST?? My confusion comes in part from 
my experience</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>that complexity is actually an 
essential precondition for OST, or 
more</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote 
type="cite"><span>exactly the effective operation of self organization. The 
essential</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>pre-conditions as I have experienced 
the are: A Real business issue</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>(something that people really care 
about). High levels of complexity 
such</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote 
type="cite"><span>that no single person or group has a prayer of figuring it 
out. High levels</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>of diversity in terms of people and 
points of view. Lots of passion 
and</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote 
type="cite"><span>conflict. And a decision time of yesterday (urgency). Given 
these 5</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote 
type="cite"><span>conditions, self organization in the more formal setting of 
OST or as a</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>natural occurrence just seems to 
happen... unless...And this may be 
the</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote 
type="cite"><span>point of problem... It is arbitrarily constrained... which 
usually means</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>that somebody already has the 
plan/program/design and they are just 
looking</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote 
type="cite"><span>for buy-in or (worst case) they are simply trying to sugar 
coat the pill,</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>and make it seem like the folks are 
creating something, when in fact 
the</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote 
type="cite"><span>cake is already 
baked.</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote 
type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><blockquote 
type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><blockquote 
type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>A clue to the dilemma may be in the 
phrase, ?I struggled to help 
the</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote 
type="cite"><span>client (the funding body) to really 'empower'...? I know we 
talk a lot</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>about empowerment, but I have come to 
the conclusion that it is really 
a</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote 
type="cite"><span>red herring, and most painfully so in those situations where 
you actually</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>try to do it. Sounds odd, I guess, 
but think about it. If I 
empower</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote 
type="cite"><span>you...you are in my power. And the more I try to empower you 
the worse it</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>gets. Real empowerment, in my book, 
is not an act that we (or somebody) 
do,</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote 
type="cite"><span>but an acknowledgement of a pre-existing condition...you are 
powerful. Of</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>course I might encourage you a bit to 
be as powerful as you are, but it 
is</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote 
type="cite"><span>not something I can give you. You must claim it for yourself. 
Strange as it</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>may seem, I find the notion of 
?empowerment? to be just the opposite 
of</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote 
type="cite"><span>that fundament of effective working relationships (or any 
relationship)</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>RESPECT. And I suspect that it is 
precisely here that the fickle finger 
of</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote 
type="cite"><span>fate is pointing to the critical 
issue.</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote 
type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><blockquote 
type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><blockquote 
type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>Another word that fits in here for me 
is ?Patronizing.? Everything 
may</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote 
type="cite"><span>sound super nice, and all the proper and correct words may be 
spoken, but</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>if the implication is that the folks 
(participants) really do not have 
the</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote 
type="cite"><span>competence or ability to deal with the issues, it is fairly 
predictable</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>that they will not bother to try. Or 
if they ?try? it will be pretty 
much</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote 
type="cite"><span>of a pro forma situation. Sound 
familiar?</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
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type="cite"><span>Behalf Of *John Baxter via 
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type="cite"><span>*Sent:* Monday, October 13, 2014 2:41 
AM</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote 
type="cite"><span>*To:* Daniel 
Mezick</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote 
type="cite"><span>*Cc:* World wide Open Space Technology email 
list</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote 
type="cite"><span>*Subject:* Re: [OSList] Authority Distribution in Open 
Space</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote 
type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><blockquote 
type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><blockquote 
type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>Hi Daniel. &nbsp;Thanks for your 
considered response.</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><blockquote 
type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><blockquote 
type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><blockquote 
type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>I will try to keep my response in 
line with the topic.... but expect 
it</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote 
type="cite"><span>may meander.</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><blockquote 
type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><blockquote 
type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><blockquote 
type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>The OST day I was preparing for has 
since come and gone.</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><blockquote 
type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>I decided in the end to least give 
OST a crack and see what 
happened.</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><blockquote 
type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><blockquote 
type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><blockquote 
type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>It didn't go very well; but it also 
went well enough (vis overall 
project</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote 
type="cite"><span>goals, and client expectations), so I don't feel so bad about 
it... even if</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>I had personally envisaged 
more.</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote 
type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><blockquote 
type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><blockquote 
type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>I am not one to worry about the 
cannon... which means sometimes I 
break</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote 
type="cite"><span>things, as I did this time. &nbsp;There was still an 
(informal) sponsor, the one</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>that sent the invites. &nbsp;They 
just did not have a presence on the 
day.</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote 
type="cite"><span>Thank you Daniel as you did make me think critically about 
the strength of</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>my role as host. &nbsp;I think I 
dealt with that through my introduction to 
the</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote 
type="cite"><span>day; and as it turns out the authority to host was not an 
issue.</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote 
type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><blockquote 
type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><blockquote 
type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>But as it turns out, that was not 
really the biggest challenge!</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><blockquote 
type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><blockquote 
type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><blockquote 
type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>The main lessons I took away about 
what contributed to the average 
result:</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote 
type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><blockquote 
type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><blockquote 
type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>*There needs to be clear, compelling 
shared work.*</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><blockquote 
type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>The overall project was more 
complicated than OST, so it wasn't 
clear</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote 
type="cite"><span>what turning up actually meant, and I think many did not turn 
up on the</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>basis of wanting to resolve a shared 
challenge (the work), as you 
might</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote 
type="cite"><span>expect for OST. &nbsp;&nbsp;In straight OST terms, you could 
say this was an issue of</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>invitation, but really it was many 
things.</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote 
type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><blockquote 
type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><blockquote 
type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>So the group was interesting. 
&nbsp;They had the heart, but not the 
will.</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote 
type="cite"><span>They were committed, but without ownership of the result. 
&nbsp;I've seen this a</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>lot in the community engagement 
field, but nowhere that I have used 
(or</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote 
type="cite"><span>seen) OST.</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><blockquote 
type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><blockquote 
type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><blockquote 
type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>I thought about this a lot, I thought 
it might have been about the</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>invitation and self-selection; but at 
the end of the day I think it 
comes</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote 
type="cite"><span>down to the sense of (and invitation in to) shared 
work.</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote 
type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><blockquote 
type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><blockquote 
type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>*It is super hard to dissolve 
ingrained power and authority 
relationships</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>in the short term. &nbsp;These can't 
be sidestepped by an external 
facilitator.*</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><blockquote 
type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><blockquote 
type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><blockquote 
type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>I struggled to help the client (the 
funding body) to really 
'empower'.</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>They talked about it and genuinely 
want to, but old habits and 
mental</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote 
type="cite"><span>models don't change overnight. &nbsp;They really struggled to 
push beyond</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>managing the process as superiours 
(to a set of subordinate 
participants).</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>This is 'empowerment' within a 
patriarchal system, and it doesn't work. 
&nbsp;It</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>felt very yucky at 
times.</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote 
type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><blockquote 
type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><blockquote 
type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>A curious side effect of this 
partriarchal 'empowerment' was 
an</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote 
type="cite"><span>unwillingness to be clear about the work ("we want to be open 
and let them</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>lead the process" they would say... I 
got the client to agree that *the*y 
were</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote 
type="cite"><span>clearly the leaders, but we didn't quite work out how to put 
that into</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><blockquote 
type="cite"><span>practice).</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><blockquote 
type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><blockquote 
type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><blockquote 
type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>Over the course of the engagement, we 
all took baby steps together 
that</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote 
type="cite"><span>invest in their (/our) capacity to really work together in 
future. &nbsp;They</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>learned a LOT in a short period of 
time, and so did I, but it was 
too</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote 
type="cite"><span>short. &nbsp;By the end of the project I had the client 
calling me up to ask how</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>they could reword things so they 
didn't reflect a control response. : 
)</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote 
type="cite"><span> That was good, but obviously if they need me for this then 
there is some</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>way to go. &nbsp;And different client 
reps had different levels of 
self</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote 
type="cite"><span>reflection.</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><blockquote 
type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><blockquote 
type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><blockquote 
type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>Hosting an isolated OST workshop 
against this grain was very 
ambitious,</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>it was always going to be, no matter 
how we conducted ourselves.</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><blockquote 
type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><blockquote 
type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><blockquote 
type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>And perhaps 20% were very proactive, 
and led the bulk of the work 
that</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote 
type="cite"><span>occurred... they saved the 
day!</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote 
type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>But the length of the OST was not 
enough for this leadership to really 
be</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote 
type="cite"><span>contagious and precipitate a productive 
culture.</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><blockquote 
type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><blockquote 
type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><blockquote 
type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>*Or in other words: we struggled to 
free up authorisation to be 
more</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote 
type="cite"><span>dynamic*</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><blockquote 
type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>Reading your blog post Daniel, the 
idea of dynamic authorisation 
would</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote 
type="cite"><span>have been very useful earlier in the project. &nbsp;Another 
way of looking at</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>the project: we struggled to free the 
space of ingrained authority to</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>enable dynamic 
authorisation.</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><blockquote 
type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><blockquote 
type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><blockquote 
type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><blockquote 
type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><blockquote 
type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>There were lots of other insights 
into how we could have done it</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>differently, but to me these were the 
fundamental stumbling blocks for 
us.</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote 
type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><blockquote 
type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><blockquote 
type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>Still, they were not too big, and I'm 
pleased we made a good start.</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><blockquote 
type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>My favourite feedback was "thank you, 
this was the first time I have 
been</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote 
type="cite"><span>part of genuine engagement in more than a decade in the 
sector" : )</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><blockquote 
type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><blockquote 
type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><blockquote 
type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
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type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>On Tue, Sep 30, 2014 at 12:07 AM, 
Daniel Mezick &lt;<a 
href="mailto:d...@newtechusa.net";>d...@newtechusa.net</a>&gt;</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote
 type="cite"><blockquote 
type="cite"><span>wrote:</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><blockquote 
type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>Hi 
John,</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote 
type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>Yours is a very interesting 
story.</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote 
type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>You 
say:</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote 
type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><blockquote 
type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><blockquote 
type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><blockquote 
type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>*"...To be honest I am not sure how I 
need to deal with this, though 
my</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote 
type="cite"><span>strategy is to accept the authority for hosting the space in 
the next</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>workshop, obsolving the department of 
their responsibility to manage 
the</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote 
type="cite"><span>day." "...I don't think it is feasible for the obvious 
authority candidates</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>hosting something genuinely 
participatory. &nbsp;The relevant director has 
said</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote 
type="cite"><span>she doesn't want to speak formally and become The Authority 
for the day, a</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>position I agree 
with."*</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote 
type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><blockquote 
type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><blockquote 
type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><blockquote 
type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><blockquote 
type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>In the situation as described, it 
sounds like the org is the very</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>earliest stages of moving in a 
direction of more</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><blockquote 
type="cite"><span>open/participatory/inviting.</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote
 type="cite"><blockquote 
type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>Do you agree with this 
assessment?</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><blockquote 
type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><blockquote 
type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><blockquote 
type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>If this assessment is correct, based 
on what you describe, I would</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>probably avoid attempting Open Space 
in the canonical form whatsoever 
(as</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote 
type="cite"><span>described in the OST GUIDE) &nbsp;because the Sponsor role is 
vacant.</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote 
type="cite"><span>Unoccupied. And so, by my reckoning, if I understand you 
right, a true Open</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>Space event isn't even possible, 
because the essential OST-Sponsor-role 
is</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote 
type="cite"><span>in fact not willingly occupied by anyone with enough 
authority to play that</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>essential role 
well.</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote 
type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>What's clear is that someone who 
could function as OST-Sponsor 
is</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote 
type="cite"><span>currently unwilling to do so. And so I might try a "taster" 
or "demo" event</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>instead, where the goal is to *learn 
about Open Space in general*, 
and</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote 
type="cite"><span>do a *little* bit of "real" work too. Especially if the 
allotted time a</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>mere 1/2 day, I am even more inclined 
to strongly favor this re-framing 
of</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote 
type="cite"><span>the stated 
goals.</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote 
type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>So the primary and stated goal for 
the "taster" is learning about 
OST.</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote 
type="cite"><span>Another goal for a short event might be to see who shows 
up</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote 
type="cite"><span>super-interested in the art of Facilitation, and then offer 
to mentor those</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>who do self-select by showing 
interest. &nbsp;In this manner some 
Facilitation</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>capacity is developed inside the org, 
to help with current meetings 
and</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote 
type="cite"><span>processes. Introducing Facilitation into typical meetings is 
a easy and</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>effective "culture 
hack".</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote 
type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><blockquote 
type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><blockquote 
type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>For me, the total unwillingness of an 
obvious candidate to occupy the</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>Sponsor role is a huge warning signal 
to slow down, pause, or even 
stop.</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote 
type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>Lots of people here have more 
experience than me, and might be willing 
to</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote 
type="cite"><span>lend you some of their expertise regarding the authority 
dynamics of</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>Facilitating an OST event with the 
essential OST-Sponsor-role 
completely</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><blockquote 
type="cite"><span>vacant</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><blockquote 
type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><blockquote 
type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><blockquote 
type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>Kind 
Regards,</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><blockquote 
type="cite"><span>Daniel</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><blockquote 
type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><blockquote 
type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><blockquote 
type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>On 9/28/14 11:30 PM, John Baxter 
wrote:</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote 
type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span> I am navigating some challenging 
authority dynamics in a project at 
the</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote 
type="cite"><span>moment.</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><blockquote 
type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><blockquote 
type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><blockquote 
type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>I was brought in a week out from the 
first of three forums, and asked 
to</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote 
type="cite"><span>'facilitate a codesign process' which was at that stage a 
black box (with</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>many hidden expectations) scheduled 
into that event (1 hour before 
lunch</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote 
type="cite"><span>and 1 hour 
afterwards).</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><blockquote 
type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><blockquote 
type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><blockquote 
type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>It's a long journey, but you can 
imagine how my role has changed as 
I</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote 
type="cite"><span>prepare for the third forum which I am hosting in Open 
Space.</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote 
type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><blockquote 
type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><blockquote 
type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>The overall process is an engagement 
between a government department 
and</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote 
type="cite"><span>their funded agencies. &nbsp;The most obvious direct power 
dynamics are obvious,</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>the effective power and authority 
dynamics are much more complex 
(though</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote 
type="cite"><span>predictable).</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><blockquote 
type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><blockquote 
type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><blockquote 
type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>Department staff have authority 
challenges as much as the agencies. 
&nbsp;They</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>are trying so hard to be 'neutral' 
and 'non controlling' that they 
are</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote 
type="cite"><span>effectively reinforcing their own authority positions (which 
often have</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>little real correlation to the power, 
knowledge etc that they imagine 
them</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote 
type="cite"><span>to).</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><blockquote 
type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><blockquote 
type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><blockquote 
type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>To be honest I am not sure how I need 
to deal with this, though my</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>strategy is to accept the authority 
for hosting the space in the 
next</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote 
type="cite"><span>workshop, obsolving the department of their responsibility to 
manage the</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><blockquote 
type="cite"><span>day.</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><blockquote 
type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><blockquote 
type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><blockquote 
type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>It has been interesting to watch push 
back so far from agency reps 
who</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote 
type="cite"><span>are committed to participating, who are genuinely engaged, 
but are playing</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>to an us-them tension that is getting 
in the way of the shared work 
(and</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote 
type="cite"><span>serves them no good ends except protecting them from their 
own</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote 
type="cite"><span>responsibility). &nbsp;Stand-offishness is gradually being 
resolved, though some</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>pockets are holding 
firm.</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote 
type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><blockquote 
type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><blockquote 
type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>I am crossing my fingers for WS3 that 
we can traverse these and get 
into</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote 
type="cite"><span>Open Space without being pushed off the bridge by the 
reactionary tension;</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>and that once on the other side, the 
department reps can embrace Open 
Space</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote 
type="cite"><span>and take responsibility for their 
role.</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote 
type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><blockquote 
type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><blockquote 
type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>We will get across *as long as I have 
the authority* to host the 
space</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote 
type="cite"><span>for them.</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><blockquote 
type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><blockquote 
type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><blockquote 
type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>I don't think it is feasible for the 
obvious authority candidates 
hosting</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote 
type="cite"><span>something genuinely participatory. &nbsp;The relevant 
director has said she</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>doesn't want to speak formally and 
become The Authority for the day, 
a</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote 
type="cite"><span>position I agree 
with.</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote 
type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><blockquote 
type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><blockquote 
type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>But it does leave something of a 
shell, where I am crossing my 
fingers</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote 
type="cite"><span>that our time together thus far affords me the authority to 
host that space.</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><blockquote 
type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><blockquote 
type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><blockquote 
type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>I think we are ready. I am bringing 
my harness and floaties just in 
case.</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote 
type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><blockquote 
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type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><blockquote 
type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
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type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>Influence your city by building 
relationships and joining voices 
with</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote 
type="cite"><span>others in your 
community</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
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type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><blockquote 
type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>On Mon, Sep 29, 2014 at 12:26 PM, 
Daniel Mezick via OSList &lt;</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span><a 
href="mailto:oslist@lists.openspacetech.org";>oslist@lists.openspacetech.org</a>&gt;
 wrote:</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote 
type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>Hi 
Harrison,</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><blockquote 
type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>So interesting how the Law of 2 Feet 
authorizes me, and every other</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>member of an OST event, to go 
anywhere we may want to go.</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><blockquote 
type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>Without asking anyone else for any 
kind of "permission"...</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><blockquote 
type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><blockquote 
type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>Reminds me of this past June, being 
in Camden with you, and Ethelyn, 
and</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote 
type="cite"><span>Harold, and friends... when we were standing on the porch of 
that Camden</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>restaurant... waiting for everyone to 
arrive, and assemble for 
dinner...</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><blockquote 
type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>And as we wait, I notice there is 
this convenient-looking, 
alternate</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>entry-door... into the dining 
area.</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote 
type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>And I say: "Hmm...I wonder if we are 
authorized to use that door."</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><blockquote 
type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>And you 
say:</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote 
type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>"We're authorized to go Anywhere we 
want to go."</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><blockquote 
type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>...and I like 
that.</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote 
type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><blockquote 
type="cite"><span>Daniel</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><blockquote 
type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><blockquote 
type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>Picture of that 
place:</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote 
type="cite"><span><a 
href="https://twitter.com/DanielMezick/status/483054326265692161";>https://twitter.com/DanielMezick/status/483054326265692161</a></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote
 type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>See 
also:</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote 
type="cite"><span><a 
href="https://twitter.com/danielgullo/status/483434622009999360";>https://twitter.com/danielgullo/status/483434622009999360</a></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote
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type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><blockquote 
type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><blockquote 
type="cite"><span>&lt;mime-attachment.png&gt;</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote
 type="cite"><blockquote 
type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>On 9/25/14 4:58 PM, Harrison Owen 
wrote:</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote 
type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span> Daniel... You really did it! I 
think. Your language comes from a 
place</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote 
type="cite"><span>I don?t know... which is to say that I probably wouldn?t say 
what you say</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>in the way that you do (duh). BUT 
when I run my ?translator? it comes 
out</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote 
type="cite"><span>sounding pretty good! So... I can?t help with the questions 
you have</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>raised. Actually I think you are 
doing pretty well on your own, 
and</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote 
type="cite"><span>(hopefully) will incite others to a similarly riotous 
performance. Thanks!</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><blockquote 
type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><blockquote 
type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><blockquote 
type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><blockquote 
type="cite"><span>Harrison</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
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 type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>*Subject:* [OSList] Authority 
Distribution in Open Space</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
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type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>Greetings to 
All,</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote 
type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>For the past several years I have 
attended conferences of the 
Group</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote 
type="cite"><span>Relations community, and encouraged others to do the same. 
I've studied</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>their literature, and harvested some 
important learning as a result. One 
of</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote 
type="cite"><span>the things I have come to understand a little bit better is 
the role of</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>"authority dynamics" in 
self-organizing social systems.</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><blockquote 
type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><blockquote 
type="cite"><span>Link:</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span><a 
href="http://www.akriceinstitute.org";>www.akriceinstitute.org</a></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote
 type="cite"><blockquote 
type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>Over the past several years I've been 
using Open Space with intent to</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>improve the results of my work in 
helping companies implement Agile 
ideas</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote 
type="cite"><span>in their organizations. We do an initial Open Space, then the 
folks get</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>about 3 months to play with Agile (we 
carefully use the word</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>"experimentation" with management,) 
then we do another Open Space 
after</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote 
type="cite"><span>that, to inspect what just happened across the enterprise. 
The initial and</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>subsequent Open Space events form a 
"safe" container or field in which 
the</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote 
type="cite"><span>members can *learn*... as they explore how to *improve* 
together by</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>*experimenting* with new practices, 
and see if they actually work. 
I</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote 
type="cite"><span>call the process Open Agile 
Adoption.</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><blockquote 
type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><blockquote 
type="cite"><span>Link:</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span><a 
href="http://OpenAgileAdoption.com";>OpenAgileAdoption.com</a></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote
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type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>This seems to work pretty good. It 
seems to "take the air out of" most 
of</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote 
type="cite"><span>the fear, most of the anxiety and most of the worry that is 
created. The</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>key aspect is *consent*: absolutely 
no one is forced to do anything 
they</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote 
type="cite"><span>are unwilling to do. No one is *coerced* to *comply*. 
Everyone is</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>instead respectfully *invited* to 
help *write* the story, and be 
a</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote 
type="cite"><span>*character* in the story...of the contemplated process 
change. Open</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>Agile Adoption encourages a spirit of 
experimentation and play.</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><blockquote 
type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>The spirit of Open Space is the 
spirit of freedom. Isn't it? In the 
OST</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote 
type="cite"><span>community, we discuss and talk a lot about 
self-organization,</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>self-management and self-governance. 
The Agile community also talks 
about</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote 
type="cite"><span>these ideas a 
lot.</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote 
type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>So I have some questions. What is 
really going on during</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>self-organization in a social system? 
What are the steps? What 
information</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>is being sent and received? &gt;From 
whom, and by whom? Is the 
information</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>about *authority* important? How 
important? Can a social system 
self</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote 
type="cite"><span>organize without regard to who has the right to do what work? 
*How do</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote 
type="cite"><span>decisions that affect others get made in a self-organizing 
system?*</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><blockquote 
type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>Who decides about *who decides*? How 
important is the process of</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>*authorization* in a self-organizing 
system? Is self-organization in</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>large part the process of dynamic 
authorization (and 
*de-authorization*)</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>in real 
time?</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote 
type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>What *is *authorization? Can 
self-organization occur without the 
sending</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote 
type="cite"><span>and receiving of authorization data by and between the 
members?</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><blockquote 
type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>Is Bruce Tuckman's 
forming/storming/performing/adjourning 
actually</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>decomposing the *dynamics of 
authorization* inside a social 
system?</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote 
type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>The essay below attempts to answer 
some of these difficult questions. 
I'd</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote 
type="cite"><span>love your thoughts on it. Will you give it a 
look?</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote 
type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><blockquote 
type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>Essay: Authority Distribution in Open 
Space</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote 
type="cite"><span><a 
href="http://newtechusa.net/agile/authority-distribution-in-open-space/";>http://newtechusa.net/agile/authority-distribution-in-open-space/</a></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote
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type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>Kind 
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type="cite"><blockquote 
type="cite"><span>Daniel</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><blockquote 
type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
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type="cite"><span>--</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><blockquote 
type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>Daniel Mezick, 
President</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><blockquote 
type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>New Technology Solutions 
Inc.</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote 
type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>(203) 915 7248 
(cell)</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote 
type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>Bio &lt;<a 
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 Blog</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote 
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Twitter</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote 
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type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>Examine my new book: &nbsp;The 
Culture Game</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
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type="cite"><blockquote 
type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>New Technology Solutions 
Inc.</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote 
type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>(203) 915 7248 
(cell)</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote 
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 Blog</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote 
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Twitter</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote 
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 type="cite"><blockquote 
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 Tools for the</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
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Daniel Mezick via OSList &lt;<a 
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 Re: [OSList] Private vs Public OST Differences?</span><br><span>Message-ID: 
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Format="flowed"</span><br><span></span><br><span>Greetings 
Christine,</span><br><span></span><br><span>Thanks for your detailed reply. I 
must admit, I have no experience </span><br><span>whatsoever with doing 
quasi-public OST events arranged for guilds, 
</span><br><span>industry-associations and the like. I'm 
clueless!</span><br><span></span><br><span>As such, my opinion does not have 
much (if any) validity about those use </span><br><span>cases. I do have some 
theories however, and I hope I can ask some </span><br><span>questions about 
OST for guilds &amp; industry 
associations...</span><br><span></span><br><span>I see it like 
this:</span><br><span></span><br><span>(1) At one extreme end of the spectrum, 
there is the very private, </span><br><span>business-org-specific event. A kind 
of big-family system.</span><br><span></span><br><span>(2) At the other 
extreme, there is the totally public conference that </span><br><span>anyone 
can attend, if they pay the money...</span><br><span></span><br><span> 
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;* It is an event that has some Open Space of 
varying quality, in</span><br><span> 
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;1/2 day, full day or multiple day 
formats.</span><br><span> &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;* It may of may not 
have a Sponsor, it may of may not have</span><br><span> 
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;Proceedings. It may or may not have 
posters on the wall. If it</span><br><span> 
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;has Proceedings at all, they are 
often late.</span><br><span> &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;* "Agile" 
conferences are commonly at found at this end of the 
range.</span><br><span></span><br><span></span><br><span>My theory is that 
quasi-public OST events for and with guilds, industry 
</span><br><span>associations and the like lie somewhere in the middle of these 
two </span><br><span>extremes. And I can certainly imagine (theorize) how these 
events take </span><br><span>on the look, feel, tone, temp and flavor of the 
very private, </span><br><span>business-org-specific event. They might even 
effectively BE private </span><br><span>events. It's not like anyone with the 
fee (if any) can just waltz into </span><br><span>the meeting 
right?</span><br><span></span><br><span></span><br><span>And so, for now, I 
want to set these quasi-public OST events aside, </span><br><span>and/or 
characterize them as private events. Is that 
OK?</span><br><span></span><br><span></span><br><span></span><br><span></span><br><span></span><br><span></span><br><span>And
 so, referring to (1) and (2) above, I continue to see very huge 
</span><br><span>differences between these two ways to use Open 
Space.</span><br><span></span><br><span>Like, the difference between Night and 
Day.</span><br><span></span><br><span></span><br><span>Here's one of those very 
striking differences: in public-conference </span><br><span>events where OST is 
an add-on in 1/2 or full day formats, getting good </span><br><span>Proceedings 
is difficult. Or impossible. The Proceedings are typically 
</span><br><span>late and poorly formatted, or more commonly: 
/non-existent./</span><br><span></span><br><span>Yet inside private events, you 
can't pull the people off the task of </span><br><span>Proceedings creation. 
The task attracts them like a magnet. They </span><br><span>typically wave off 
any offers of help and take an absolutely huge </span><br><span>interest in the 
Proceedings generation. They rivet on 
it.</span><br><span></span><br><span></span><br><span></span><br><span>And this 
is just one example. There are many more BIG differences. And 
</span><br><span>so I continue to assert that for public-conference events 
where OST is a </span><br><span>full day or 1/2 day add-on, a Barcamp or 
Unconference can and does get </span><br><span>equivalent, similar, as-good 
results.</span><br><span></span><br><span>Stated another way, Barcamp and/or 
Unconference can never do what Open </span><br><span>Space does for 
organizations. And that's because Open Space is optimized </span><br><span>for 
enabling "development and transformation in organizations. 
"</span><br><span></span><br><span>And those other two 
aren't.</span><br><span></span><br><span></span><br><span>Daniel</span><br><span></span><br><span>PS
 I realize some public, paid, Agile conferences that feature all-day 
</span><br><span>Open Space do a very good job with Proceedings. Yet this is 
clearly the </span><br><span>exception, and not the rule where Agile 
conferences are 
concerned.</span><br><span></span><br><span></span><br><span></span><br><span></span><br><span>On
 10/15/14 11:43 AM, Christine Whitney Sanchez wrote:</span><br><blockquote 
type="cite"><span>Daniel and all,</span><br></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>In my 
experience, public events have the same buzz and meaningful 
</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>results as an 
in-organization OST. &nbsp;I?ve facilitated a number of them 
</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>that were sponsored by a 
group of organizations in the community. &nbsp;For 
</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>instance, Vibrant Phoenix 
</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>&lt;<a 
href="http://vibrantphx.com/next-actions/top-ideas/";>http://vibrantphx.com/next-actions/top-ideas/</a>&gt;,
 was a very productive </span><br></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><span>economic development OST, sponsored by two mayors of large 
</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>municipalities and 
several local businesses. &nbsp;One of the business 
</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>sponsors agreed to be the 
contact for folks who wanted to take their </span><br></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><span>?actionable ideas? to the next level. &nbsp;However, there 
was no budget </span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>and no 
infrastructure to really keep folks connected the the ideas 
</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>they cared the most 
about.</span><br></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>This is 
where the public open spaces generally fall short. &nbsp;Because 
</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>the ongoing action is not 
the core mission of any of these </span><br></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><span>organizations, it is hoped that the participants will 
self-organize </span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>going 
forward. &nbsp;With very few exceptions, this does not happen. &nbsp;I 
</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>believe that sponsorship 
for the work after the OST is what is called 
for.</span><br></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>The 
Collective Impact </span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>&lt;<a 
href="http://www.ssireview.org/blog/entry/channeling_change_making_collective_impact_work";>http://www.ssireview.org/blog/entry/channeling_change_making_collective_impact_work</a>&gt;
 model </span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>speaks to this. 
&nbsp;It?s nothing new, really, but does represent a simple 
</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>way to talk about the 
necessary conditions for sustaining collective 
</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>action. &nbsp;I now 
include my version of this model when I talk with 
</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>potential sponsors to 
shine the light beyond the meeting so that we 
</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>can discuss their 
intentions for providing backbone support for 
</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>self-organized action 
going forward.</span><br></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>I 
especially love public Open Space events and look forward to working 
</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>with sponsors who see the 
meeting as merely the first small step in </span><br></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><span>collaborative action. &nbsp;There is so much 
potential!</span><br></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>Warm 
wishes from a sunny autumn morning in the rain-greened 
desert,</span><br></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><span>Christine</span><br></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><span>Christine Whitney Sanchez, 
M.C.</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>Phoenix,AZ, USA 
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 type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>On Oct 
15, 2014, at 6:33 AM, Daniel Mezick via OSList 
</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>&lt;<a 
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</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>&lt;<a 
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type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><span>Greetings To All,</span><br></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>I 
notice that there are many big differences between 
</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>public-conference-type 
OST events, and OST events arranged for </span><br></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><span>organizations.</span><br></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>Do you 
also notice this? Maybe I am imagining this....just making 
</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>stuff 
up...</span><br></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><span>...maybe not. In many key dimensions, I experience these 
differences </span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>as striking. 
Even disturbing.</span><br></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>And so 
I have been poking around inside the GUIDE (3rd edition) and I 
</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>notice that, in some 
spots, the implication is that the discussion is 
</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>about a public event. Up 
to page 18 for example, this implication is </span><br></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><span>clear:</span><br></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>&lt;THE 
GUIDE PAGE 18&gt;</span><br></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>Working 
With The Client if you ARE NOT the Sponsor</span><br></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>"To 
this point I have assumed that you (the reader) will be the 
</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>sponsor and facilitator 
of the Open Space, and therefore */it is your 
</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>decision as to whether or 
not to proceed/*...(/emphasis added./)</span><br></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><span>&lt;/THE GUIDE PAGE 18&gt;</span><br></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>My 
current belief is that having the same person in the Sponsor role 
</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>**and** the Facilitator 
role is probably a very bad idea for an OST </span><br></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><span>event /inside an organization/. For the typical 
public-conference </span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>event 
on the other hand, this seems to work just fine. Kinda like a 
</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>Barcamp or 
Unconference....</span><br></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>Another 
current belief I hold is that OST is the essential tool for 
</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>creating "Development and 
Transformation in Organizations". It is best 
</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>suited for use in 
organizations.</span><br></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>It is 
interesting to note how the Barcamp and/or "Unconference" 
</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>formats seem to get the 
same or as-good results as Open Space, in the 
</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>public conference 
setting.</span><br></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>Not so 
inside organizations! In fact, as of now, I don't think Barcamp 
</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>or Unconference has any 
chance whatsoever at being effective in </span><br></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><span>bringing about Development and Transformation in 
Organizations the way </span><br></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><span>Open Space can. Something about the 
Sponsor?</span><br></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote 
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 6</span><br><span>Date: Fri, 17 Oct 2014 09:15:42 -0500</span><br><span>From: 
Michael Herman via OSList &lt;<a 
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 Daniel Mezick &lt;<a 
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&nbsp;World wide Open Space</span><br><span> &nbsp; &nbsp;Technology email list 
&nbsp; &nbsp;&lt;<a 
href="mailto:oslist@lists.openspacetech.org";>oslist@lists.openspacetech.org</a>&gt;</span><br><span>Subject:
 Re: [OSList] Private vs Public OST 
Differences?</span><br><span>Message-ID:</span><br><span> &nbsp; &nbsp;&lt;<a 
href="mailto:CAD8j=QHhLZ6YSS_fjq_8SWO=SAKqWc=o4dd+wod3z5rps8w...@mail.gmail.com";>CAD8j=QHhLZ6YSS_fjq_8SWO=SAKqWc=o4dd+wod3z5rps8w...@mail.gmail.com</a>&gt;</span><br><span>Content-Type:
 text/plain; charset="utf-8"</span><br><span></span><br><span>Not sure the 
differences you articulate have anything to do with public 
and</span><br><span>private, Daniel. It's about the different structures. 
&nbsp;I've seen very loose</span><br><span>corporate add-on events and very 
productive and long-lived action (spanning</span><br><span>years and 
continents) come from open public conferences. So id 
say</span><br><span>structure matters much more than 
setting.</span><br><span></span><br><span></span><br><span>On Friday, October 
17, 2014, Daniel Mezick via OSList &lt;</span><br><span><a 
href="mailto:oslist@lists.openspacetech.org";>oslist@lists.openspacetech.org</a>&gt;
 wrote:</span><br><span></span><br><blockquote type="cite"><span> Greetings 
Christine,</span><br></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>Thanks 
for your detailed reply. I must admit, I have no 
experience</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>whatsoever with 
doing quasi-public OST events arranged for 
guilds,</span><br></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><span>industry-associations and the like. I'm 
clueless!</span><br></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>As 
such, my opinion does not have much (if any) validity about those 
use</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>cases. I do have some 
theories however, and I hope I can ask some 
questions</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>about OST for 
guilds &amp; industry associations...</span><br></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>I see 
it like this:</span><br></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>(1) At 
one extreme end of the spectrum, there is the very 
private,</span><br></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><span>business-org-specific event. A kind of big-family 
system.</span><br></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>(2) At 
the other extreme, there is the totally public conference 
that</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>anyone can attend, if 
they pay the money...</span><br></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span> 
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;- It is an event that has some Open Space of varying quality, 
in 1/2</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span> 
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;day, full day or multiple day 
formats.</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span> 
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;- It may of may not have a Sponsor, it may 
of may not have</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span> 
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;Proceedings. It may or may not have posters on 
the wall. If it has</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span> 
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;Proceedings at all, they are often 
late.</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span> 
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;- "Agile" conferences are commonly at found at 
this end of the</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span> 
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;range.</span><br></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>My 
theory is that quasi-public OST events for and with guilds, 
industry</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>associations and 
the like lie somewhere in the middle of these 
two</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>extremes. And I can 
certainly imagine (theorize) how these events take 
on</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>the look, feel, tone, 
temp and flavor of the very private,</span><br></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><span>business-org-specific event. They might even effectively BE 
private events.</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>It's not 
like anyone with the fee (if any) can just waltz into the 
meeting</span><br></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><span>right?</span><br></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>And so, 
for now, I want to set these quasi-public OST events aside, 
and/or</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>characterize them 
as private events. Is that OK?</span><br></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>And so, 
referring to (1) and (2) above, I continue to see very 
huge</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>differences between 
these two ways to use Open Space.</span><br></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>Like, 
the difference between Night and Day.</span><br></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>Here's 
one of those very striking differences: in public-conference 
events</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>where OST is an 
add-on in 1/2 or full day formats, getting good 
Proceedings</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>is difficult. 
Or impossible. The Proceedings are typically late and 
poorly</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>formatted, or more 
commonly: *non-existent.*</span><br></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>Yet 
inside private events, you can't pull the people off the task 
of</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>Proceedings creation. 
The task attracts them like a magnet. They 
typically</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>wave off any 
offers of help and take an absolutely huge interest in 
the</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>Proceedings 
generation. They rivet on it.</span><br></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>And 
this is just one example. There are many more BIG differences. And 
so</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>I continue to assert 
that for public-conference events where OST is a 
full</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>day or 1/2 day 
add-on, a Barcamp or Unconference can and does 
get</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>equivalent, similar, 
as-good results.</span><br></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>Stated 
another way, Barcamp and/or Unconference can never do what 
Open</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>Space does for 
organizations. And that's because Open Space is 
optimized</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>for enabling 
"development and transformation in organizations. 
"</span><br></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>And 
those other two aren't.</span><br></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><span>Daniel</span><br></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>PS I 
realize some public, paid, Agile conferences that feature 
all-day</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>Open Space do a 
very good job with Proceedings. Yet this is clearly 
the</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>exception, and not the 
rule where Agile conferences are concerned.</span><br></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>On 
10/15/14 11:43 AM, Christine Whitney Sanchez 
wrote:</span><br></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>Daniel 
and all,</span><br></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span> In my 
experience, public events have the same buzz and 
meaningful</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>results as an 
in-organization OST. &nbsp;I?ve facilitated a number of them 
that</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>were sponsored by a 
group of organizations in the community. &nbsp;For instance, 
Vibrant</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>Phoenix &lt;<a 
href="http://vibrantphx.com/next-actions/top-ideas/";>http://vibrantphx.com/next-actions/top-ideas/</a>&gt;,
 was a very</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>productive 
economic development OST, sponsored by two mayors of 
large</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>municipalities and 
several local businesses. &nbsp;One of the business 
sponsors</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>agreed to be the 
contact for folks who wanted to take their 
?actionable</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>ideas? to the 
next level. &nbsp;However, there was no budget and 
no</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>infrastructure to 
really keep folks connected the the ideas they cared 
the</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>most 
about.</span><br></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span> This 
is where the public open spaces generally fall short. &nbsp;Because 
the</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>ongoing action is not 
the core mission of any of these organizations, it 
is</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>hoped that the 
participants will self-organize going forward. &nbsp;With 
very</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>few exceptions, this 
does not happen. &nbsp;I believe that sponsorship for 
the</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>work after the OST is 
what is called for.</span><br></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span> The 
Collective Impact</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>&lt;<a 
href="http://www.ssireview.org/blog/entry/channeling_change_making_collective_impact_work";>http://www.ssireview.org/blog/entry/channeling_change_making_collective_impact_work</a>&gt;
 model</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>speaks to this. 
&nbsp;It?s nothing new, really, but does represent a simple 
way</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>to talk about the 
necessary conditions for sustaining collective action. 
&nbsp;I</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>now include my 
version of this model when I talk with potential sponsors 
to</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>shine the light beyond 
the meeting so that we can discuss their 
intentions</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>for providing 
backbone support for self-organized action going 
forward.</span><br></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span> I 
especially love public Open Space events and look forward to 
working</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>with sponsors who 
see the meeting as merely the first small step 
in</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>collaborative action. 
&nbsp;There is so much potential!</span><br></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span> Warm 
wishes from a sunny autumn morning in the rain-greened 
desert,</span><br></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><span>Christine</span><br></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><span>Christine Whitney Sanchez, 
M.C.</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>Phoenix, AZ, USA ? 
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 type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span> On 
Oct 15, 2014, at 6:33 AM, Daniel Mezick via OSList 
&lt;</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span><a 
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 type="cite"><span>&lt;javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','<a 
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 wrote:</span><br></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span> 
Greetings To All,</span><br></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>I 
notice that there are many big differences 
between</span><br></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><span>public-conference-type OST events, and OST events arranged 
for</span><br></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><span>organizations.</span><br></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>Do you 
also notice this? Maybe I am imagining this....just making 
stuff</span><br></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><span>up...</span><br></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><span>...maybe not. In many key dimensions, I experience these 
differences as</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>striking. 
Even disturbing.</span><br></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>And so 
I have been poking around inside the GUIDE (3rd edition) and 
I</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>notice that, in some 
spots, the implication is that the discussion is 
about</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>a public event. Up 
to page 18 for example, this implication is 
clear:</span><br></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>&lt;THE 
GUIDE PAGE 18&gt;</span><br></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>Working 
With The Client if you ARE NOT the Sponsor</span><br></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>"To 
this point I have assumed that you (the reader) will be the 
sponsor</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>and facilitator of 
the Open Space, and therefore *it is your decision 
as</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>to whether or not to 
proceed*...(*emphasis added.*)</span><br></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><span>&lt;/THE GUIDE PAGE 18&gt;</span><br></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>My 
current belief is that having the same person in the Sponsor 
role</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>**and** the 
Facilitator role is probably a very bad idea for an OST event 
*inside</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>an organization*. 
For the typical public-conference event on the 
other</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>hand, this seems to 
work just fine. Kinda like a Barcamp or 
Unconference....</span><br></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>Another 
current belief I hold is that OST is the essential tool 
for</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>creating "Development 
and Transformation in Organizations". It is 
best</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>suited for use in 
organizations.</span><br></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>It is 
interesting to note how the Barcamp and/or "Unconference" 
formats</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>seem to get the 
same or as-good results as Open Space, in the 
public</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>conference 
setting.</span><br></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>Not so 
inside organizations! In fact, as of now, I don't think Barcamp 
or</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>Unconference has any 
chance whatsoever at being effective in bringing 
about</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>Development and 
Transformation in Organizations the way Open Space 
can.</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>Something about the 
Sponsor?</span><br></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><span>Daniel</span><br></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote 
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 7</span><br><span>Date: Fri, 17 Oct 2014 11:10:06 -0400</span><br><span>From: 
Daniel Mezick via OSList &lt;<a 
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 John Baxter &lt;<a 
href="mailto:j...@jsbaxter.com.au";>j...@jsbaxter.com.au</a>&gt;, paul 
levy</span><br><span> &nbsp; &nbsp;&lt;<a 
href="mailto:rationalmadn...@gmail.com";>rationalmadn...@gmail.com</a>&gt;, 
&nbsp; &nbsp;World wide Open Space Technology email</span><br><span> &nbsp; 
&nbsp;list &nbsp; &nbsp;&lt;<a 
href="mailto:oslist@lists.openspacetech.org";>oslist@lists.openspacetech.org</a>&gt;</span><br><span>Subject:
 Re: [OSList] Authority in Open Space - "All Open 
Space"</span><br><span>Message-ID: &lt;<a 
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Format="flowed"</span><br><span></span><br><span>On 10/17/14 7:01 AM, John 
Baxter wrote:</span><br><blockquote type="cite"><span>I don't think you need to 
be so qualified, Paul;</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>3.) 
All "all statements" are /positively/ self 
limiting.</span><br></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>But 
then if I gather correctly, it's all a joke 
anyway.</span><br></blockquote><blockquote 
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type="cite"><span>/</span><br></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>On Fri, 
Oct 17, 2014 at 8:59 AM, paul levy via OSList 
</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>&lt;<a 
href="mailto:oslist@lists.openspacetech.org";>oslist@lists.openspacetech.org</a> 
</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>&lt;<a 
href="mailto:oslist@lists.openspacetech.org";>mailto:oslist@lists.openspacetech.org</a>&gt;&gt;
 wrote:</span><br></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span> 
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;Of course ! It's the wonderful irony of "all" 
statements.</span><br></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span> 
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;Paul</span><br></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span> 
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;On 16 Oct 2014, at 22:43, Daniel Mezick via 
OSList</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span> 
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&lt;<a 
href="mailto:oslist@lists.openspacetech.org";>oslist@lists.openspacetech.org</a></span><br></blockquote><blockquote
 type="cite"><span> &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&lt;<a 
href="mailto:oslist@lists.openspacetech.org";>mailto:oslist@lists.openspacetech.org</a>&gt;&gt;
 wrote:</span><br></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote 
type="cite"><span> &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;Including this 
one?</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote 
type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span> &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;On 10/16/14 2:15 
PM, paul levy via OSList wrote:</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span> 
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;I'd just venture to add a third to Harrison's first 
two...</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote 
type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span> 
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;1) All Systems are Open. 2) All Systems are self 
organizing.</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote 
type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span> 
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;And 3. All "all statements" are possibly 
self-limiting</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote 
type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span> 
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;Best 
regards</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote 
type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span> 
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;Paul 
Levy</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote 
type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote 
type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span> 
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;On Thursday, 16 October 2014, Harrison Owen via 
OSList</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span> 
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&lt;<a 
href="mailto:oslist@lists.openspacetech.org";>oslist@lists.openspacetech.org</a></span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote
 type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span> 
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&lt;<a 
href="mailto:oslist@lists.openspacetech.org";>mailto:oslist@lists.openspacetech.org</a>&gt;&gt;
 wrote:</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote 
type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span> 
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;John ? Thank you, Thank you for all 
the rich stuff! Sort 
of</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span> 
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;a Tidal Wave, but that?s when it gets 
fun, albeit a tad</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span> 
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;difficult to keep track of the sundry 
bits and pieces J</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote 
type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span> 
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;Picking Just One: &nbsp;&nbsp;?But I 
can't get past the feeling 
that</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span> 
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;/there are lots of barriers to the 
openness of space, and 
to</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span> 
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;self organisation/.? Absolutely. And 
if we were to put 
that</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span> 
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;into the language of the trade 
(Complexity Theorists and 
the</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span> 
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;like) we would be talking about 
?system constraints.? But 
as</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span> 
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;I understand it, that does not mean 
that Self 
Organization</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span> 
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;is no longer operative. And in fact 
the System 
Constraints</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span> 
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;are part and parcel of the process, a 
very important part. 
I</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span> 
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;think it goes something like this 
?</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote 
type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span> 
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;I have found myself coming to 
&nbsp;two conclusions, or 
better</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span> 
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;yet observations. 1) All Systems are 
Open. 2) All 
Systems</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span> 
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;are self 
organizing.</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote 
type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span> 
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;As Open Systems, we, in all 
permutations of our ?us-ness? 
?</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span> 
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;businesses, countries, families, 
planets, etc) are open 
to,</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span> 
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;and impacted by, all other systems. 
Sometimes a lot, 
and</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span> 
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;sometimes a little, but in our cosmos 
there is no safe,</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span> 
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;protected place. Everything is 
related to everything 
else,</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span> 
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;and we are no exception. If true, 
this has a number 
of</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span> 
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;implications. First of all the 
environment in which we 
exist</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span> 
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;is so complex, fast moving and 
inter-connected we can?t 
even</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span> 
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;think at that level. Secondly, what 
you can?t even 
think</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span> 
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;about, you can?t control. So the 
notion that somebody 
is</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span> 
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;actually ?in charge/in control? is 
not just a silly idea, 
it</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span> 
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;is delusional. 3) System 
preservation/growth depends on 
our</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span> 
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;ability to navigate this environment. 
And it is a good</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span> 
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;news/bad news situation. Sometimes 
the impacts drive us 
in</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span> 
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;new and creative directions, and open 
up new 
opportunities</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span> 
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;which are ours if we respond 
appropriately. At other 
times</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span> 
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;the impacts drive us to the wall, and 
it?s Game over.</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span> 
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;Another word is Death. If this story 
is in any ways 
valid,</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span> 
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;it would seem like Mission 
Impossible. And yet this 
story</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span> 
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;has seemingly been going on for 13.7 
Billion years and 
we</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span> 
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;are still here to complain about it. 
How could that be?</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote 
type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span> 
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;All Systems are Self Organizing ? 
Self Organization is 
in</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span> 
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;fact the mechanism whereby we 
navigate the environment, 
and</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span> 
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;all systems do it, I think. And when 
they stop doing 
it,</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span> 
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;they disappear. Self Organization is 
not the product of 
some</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span> 
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;CEO or executive committee. After 
all, they really 
haven?t</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span> 
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;been around for all that long. Self 
Organization is 
the</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span> 
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;product of the total system in all of 
its aspects and 
bits</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span> 
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;and pieces. How all that works has 
been a matter of 
stunning</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span> 
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;discovery over the past 40 years or 
so. I doubt we have 
it</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span> 
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;all right, but I do think we may have 
the major elements 
of</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span> 
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;understanding in place. The outline 
goes something like 
this</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span> 
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;? a) Steady State b) Chaos c) A 
bifurcation to 
either</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span> 
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;dissipation (poof) or reconstitution 
at new and higher</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span> 
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;levels of order. Of course you have 
to fill in a lot of 
the</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span> 
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;blanks, and there is a massive 
literature attempting to 
do</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span> 
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;just that. But I do believe we have 
enough to get 
started</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span> 
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;with some basic observations. It 
really is a Whole 
System</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span> 
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;affair, in which all elements must 
work together, and 
no</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span> 
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;element has an /a priori/ claim to 
centrality. In a 
business</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span> 
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;this could mean that the dumb 
question of an intern 
could</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span> 
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;just open the doors for the future. 
You just don?t know. 
But</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span> 
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;you do know that an organization?s 
future directly 
relates</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span> 
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;to its capacity to bring total system 
assets to bear on</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span> 
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;emergent challenges and opportunities 
quickly and</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span> 
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;effectively. It is always tempting to 
&nbsp;try and ?hedge 
the</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span> 
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;bet? with some plan, policy or 
procedure, but it 
worthwhile</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span> 
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;noting that the tighter (more 
constraining) the plan, 
the</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span> 
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;greater the likelihood of failure. 
It?s not that the 
plan</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span> 
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;was bad... but unfortunately the 
challenge or 
opportunity</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span> 
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;came from a different direction, and 
all our eggs were 
in</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span> 
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;one basket ? the wrong 
one.</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote 
type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span> 
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;So we have a very existential 
question ? How do we 
assure</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span> 
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;sufficient room (dare I say Space?) 
so that the 
infinite</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span> 
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;elements of any organization may 
quickly and 
effectively</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span> 
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;align to meet new challenges and 
opportunities ? 
recognizing</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span> 
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;in advance that we can never know 
what will be 
required?</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote 
type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span> 
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;Open Space Technology is just a bit 
player in all of 
this,</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span> 
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;but good old OST can be useful none 
the less both as a</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span> 
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;natural laboratory to explore what is 
going on, and also 
as</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span> 
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;an effective intervention to 
encourage the appearance of 
the</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span> 
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;elemental power of self organization, 
particularly when 
it</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span> 
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;seems blocked and constrained. 
&nbsp;There are no guarantees 
of</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span> 
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;course, and it may well be that The 
Organization?s time 
is</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span> 
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;now: Game Over. But the chances of 
renewal are pretty 
good,</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span> 
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;at least that has been my experience. 
And no matter 
what,</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span> 
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;the magic sauce is not OST ? but the 
power of self</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span> 
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;organization. So you could say, just 
as a way of 
speaking,</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span> 
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 *On Behalf</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
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&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;Of *John Baxter via 
OSList</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span> 
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;*Sent:* Thursday, October 16, 2014 
2:57 AM</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span> 
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;*To:* Harrison 
Owen</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span> 
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;*Cc:* World wide Open Space 
Technology email 
list</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span> 
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;*Subject:* Re: [OSList] Authority 
Distribution in Open 
Space</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote 
type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span> 
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;I have knots about empowerment, and 
the ubiquitous 
openness</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span> 
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;of space. &nbsp;These knots are about 
to inspire a rant.</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote 
type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span> 
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;These knots, I should start with, are 
not entirely the</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span> 
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;result of this present discussion 
thread - it is just 
this</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span> 
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;discussion that prompts me to 
speak.</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote 
type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span> 
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;I think I understand Harrison, if you 
suggest that</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span> 
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;self-organisation is more common than 
we realise... if 
not</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span> 
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;ubiquitous, omnipresent, then at 
least that we can</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span> 
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;fruitfully challenge the assumption 
that formal and 
top-down</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span> 
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;organisation dominates how things get 
done.</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote 
type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span> 
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;But I can't get past the feeling that 
/there are lots of</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span> 
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;barriers to the openness of space, 
and to self</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span> 
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;organisation/. &nbsp;Everywhere and 
all the time. &nbsp;In my 
recent</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span> 
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;work, mental barriers by all involved 
about authority 
and</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span> 
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;role relationships. &nbsp;My personal 
barriers around trying 
too</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span> 
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;hard to "empower". &nbsp;My client's 
patronising 
assumptions</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span> 
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;about the "capacity" and "maturity" 
of "the sector".</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span> 
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;Information 
asymmetries.</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote 
type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span> 
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;So I get really conflicted when 
anyone starts saying 
"well</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span> 
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;space is open all the time" 
(implication: 'so chill out 
cos</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span> 
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;there's nothing you need to 
do').</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote 
type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span> 
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;I am also conflicted about stepping 
back from the goal 
of</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span> 
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;empowerment, as if everybody else 
needs to just step 
into</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span> 
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;open space and take 
responsibility.</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote 
type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span> 
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;Yes - many people don't realise the 
power that they 
have.</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span> 
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;(In my last project; nobody 
seemed to quite buy into 
the</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span> 
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;fact that /they could directly author 
the document that 
they</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span> 
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;were trying to 
influence/.)</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote 
type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span> 
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;But it is also patronising to suggest 
that empowerment 
lies</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span> 
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;in just helping people to see how 
powerful they 
are...</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span> 
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;because many people /don't/ have the 
power that we or 
they</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span> 
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;might like. &nbsp;To suggest that 
people have the power and 
just</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span> 
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;don't use it... that effectively 
blames them for 
their</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span> 
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;situation, and washes our hands of 
responsibility.</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote 
type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span> 
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;The biggest barrier to group change I 
see time and time</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span> 
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;again is authority figures who 
believe others need 
to</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span> 
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;change, not themselves. &nbsp;(Most 
commonly, that 
their</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span> 
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;employees need to "be empowered", and 
that they need to</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span> 
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;manage a culture change program to 
get there... or 
better</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span> 
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;yet, that HR needs to manage the 
change program, while 
we</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span> 
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;are busy getting the real work 
done.)</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote 
type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span> 
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;I don't pretend that empowerment is 
something that can 
be</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span> 
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;done to other people (patronising), 
but I do firmly 
believe</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span> 
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;that we all first need to look to 
ourselves and what we 
need</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span> 
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;to do to play our role making such a 
future possible. 
&nbsp;And,</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span> 
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;in fact, that /this is all that we 
can ever do/.</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote 
type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span> 
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;Maybe the wisdom in what you say 
Harrison is that we do 
this</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span> 
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;by focusing on respect first, as a 
productive way to 
enable</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span> 
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;empowerment.</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote
 type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote 
type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span> 
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;Maybe I am picking on the wrong 
things and have</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span> 
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;misunderstood them, and I apologise 
if I have been</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span> 
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;critical. &nbsp;But I also see a lot 
of things said that make 
me</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span> 
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;uncomfortable, that knot me up. 
Again, most of these 
things</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span> 
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;are from my memory, not the present 
discussion. &nbsp;While 
my</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span> 
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;memory might not be the best, I'm 
sure it is based on 
something.</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote 
type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span> 
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;Thank you all for your patience and 
for being in this 
discussion</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote 
type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote 
type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span> 
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;*/John 
Baxter/*</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote 
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type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span> 
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;/?//Co//?//Create Adelaide 
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&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;? | 
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&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;18 October 
2014</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
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&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;Connect with your candidates, get 
your voice heard 
by</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span> 
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;joining with others in your 
community, and Influence 
the</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
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&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;future of the 
city/</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
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type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span> 
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;On Wed, Oct 15, 2014 at 6:06 AM, 
Harrison Owen</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span> 
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&lt;<a 
href="mailto:hho...@verizon.net";>hho...@verizon.net</a>&gt; 
wrote:</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote 
type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span> 
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;John -- I?m rather curious what you 
meant by ?The 
overall</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span> 
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;project was more complicated than 
OST?? My confusion 
comes</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span> 
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;in part from my experience that 
complexity is actually 
an</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span> 
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;essential precondition for OST, or 
more exactly the</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span> 
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;effective operation of self 
organization. The 
essential</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span> 
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;pre-conditions as I have experienced 
the are: A Real</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span> 
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;business issue (something that people 
really care 
about).</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span> 
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;High levels of complexity such that 
no single person 
or</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span> 
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;group has a prayer of figuring it 
out. High levels 
of</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span> 
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;diversity in terms of people and 
points of view. Lots 
of</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span> 
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;passion and conflict. And a decision 
time of yesterday</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span> 
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;(urgency). Given these 5 conditions, 
self organization 
in</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span> 
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;the more formal setting of OST or as 
a natural 
occurrence</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span> 
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;just seems to happen... unless...And 
this may be the 
point</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span> 
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;of problem... It is arbitrarily 
constrained... which 
usually</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span> 
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;means that somebody already has the 
plan/program/design 
and</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span> 
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;they are just looking for buy-in or 
(worst case) they 
are</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span> 
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;simply trying to sugar coat the pill, 
and make it seem 
like</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span> 
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;the folks are creating something, 
when in fact the cake 
is</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span> 
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;already 
baked.</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote 
type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span> 
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;A clue to the dilemma may be in the 
phrase, ?I struggled 
to</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span> 
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;help the client (the funding body) to 
really 'empower'...? 
I</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span> 
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;know we talk a lot about empowerment, 
but I have come to 
the</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span> 
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;conclusion that it is really a red 
herring, and most</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span> 
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;painfully so in those situations 
where you actually try 
to</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span> 
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;do it. Sounds odd, I guess, but think 
about it. If I 
empower</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span> 
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;you...you are in my power. And the 
more I try to empower 
you</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span> 
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;the worse it gets. Real empowerment, 
in my book, is not 
an</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span> 
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;act that we (or somebody) do, but an 
acknowledgement of 
a</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span> 
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;pre-existing condition...you are 
powerful. Of course I 
might</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span> 
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;encourage you a bit to be as powerful 
as you are, but it 
is</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span> 
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;not something I can give you. You 
must claim it for</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span> 
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;yourself. Strange as it may seem, I 
find the notion of</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span> 
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;?empowerment? to be just the opposite 
of that fundament 
of</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span> 
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;effective working relationships (or 
any relationship)</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span> 
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;RESPECT. And I suspect that it is 
precisely here that 
the</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span> 
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;fickle finger of fate is pointing to 
the critical 
issue.</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote 
type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span> 
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;Another word that fits in here for me 
is ?Patronizing.?</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span> 
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;Everything may sound super nice, and 
all the proper and</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span> 
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;correct words may be spoken, but if 
the implication is 
that</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span> 
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;the folks (participants) really do 
not have the 
competence</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span> 
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;or ability to deal with the issues, 
it is fairly 
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type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span> 
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&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;*Sent:* Monday, October 13, 2014 2:41 
AM</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span> 
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;*To:* Daniel 
Mezick</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span> 
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;*Cc:* World wide Open Space 
Technology email 
list</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span> 
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;*Subject:* Re: [OSList] Authority 
Distribution in Open 
Space</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote 
type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span> 
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;Hi Daniel. &nbsp;Thanks for your 
considered 
response.</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote 
type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span> 
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;I will try to keep my response in 
line with the 
topic....</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span> 
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;but expect it may 
meander.</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote 
type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span> 
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;The OST day I was preparing for has 
since come and 
gone.</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote 
type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span> 
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;I decided in the end to least give 
OST a crack and see 
what</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span> 
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;happened.</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote
 type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote 
type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span> 
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;It didn't go very well; but it also 
went well enough 
(vis</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span> 
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;overall project goals, and client 
expectations), so I 
don't</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span> 
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;feel so bad about it... even if I had 
personally envisaged 
more.</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote 
type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span> 
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;I am not one to worry about the 
cannon... which 
means</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span> 
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;sometimes I break things, as I did 
this time. &nbsp;There 
was</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span> 
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;still an (informal) sponsor, the one 
that sent the invites. 
</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span> 
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;They just did not have a presence on 
the day. Thank you</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span> 
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;Daniel as you did make me think 
critically about 
the</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span> 
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;strength of my role as host. &nbsp;I 
think I dealt with 
that</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span> 
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;through my introduction to the day; 
and as it turns out 
the</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span> 
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;authority to host was not an 
issue.</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote 
type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span> 
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;But as it turns out, that was not 
really the biggest 
challenge!</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote 
type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span> 
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;The main lessons I took away about 
what contributed to 
the</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span> 
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;average 
result:</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote 
type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span> 
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;*There needs to be clear, compelling 
shared work.*</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote 
type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span> 
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;The overall project was more 
complicated than OST, so 
it</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span> 
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;wasn't clear what turning up actually 
meant, and I think</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span> 
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;many did not turn up on the basis of 
wanting to resolve 
a</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span> 
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;shared challenge (the work), as you 
might expect for OST. 
&nbsp;</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span> 
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;In straight OST terms, you could say 
this was an issue 
of</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span> 
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;invitation, but really it was many 
things.</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote 
type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span> 
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;So the group was interesting. 
&nbsp;They had the heart, but 
not</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span> 
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;the will. &nbsp;They were committed, 
but without ownership of 
the</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span> 
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;result. &nbsp;I've seen this a lot in 
the community 
engagement</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span> 
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;field, but nowhere that I have used 
(or seen) OST.</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote 
type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span> 
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;I thought about this a lot, I thought 
it might have been</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span> 
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;about the invitation and 
self-selection; but at the end 
of</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span> 
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;the day I think it comes down to the 
sense of (and</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span> 
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;invitation in to) shared 
work.</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote 
type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span> 
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;*It is super hard to dissolve 
ingrained power and 
authority</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span> 
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;relationships in the short term. 
&nbsp;These can't be 
sidestepped</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span> 
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;by an external 
facilitator.*</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote 
type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span> 
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;I struggled to help the client (the 
funding body) to 
really</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span> 
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;'empower'. &nbsp;They talked about it 
and genuinely want to, 
but</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span> 
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;old habits and mental models don't 
change overnight. 
&nbsp;They</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span> 
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;really struggled to push beyond 
managing the process 
as</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span> 
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;superiours (to a set of subordinate 
participants). &nbsp;This 
is</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span> 
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;'empowerment' within a patriarchal 
system, and it 
doesn't</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span> 
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;work. &nbsp;It felt very yucky at 
times.</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote 
type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span> 
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;A curious side effect of this 
partriarchal 'empowerment' 
was</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span> 
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;an unwillingness to be clear about 
the work ("we want to 
be</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span> 
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;open and let them lead the process" 
they would say... I 
got</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span> 
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;the client to agree that /the/y were 
clearly the 
leaders,</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span> 
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;but we didn't quite work out how to 
put that into 
practice).</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote 
type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span> 
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;Over the course of the engagement, we 
all took baby 
steps</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span> 
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;together that invest in their (/our) 
capacity to really 
work</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span> 
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;together in future. They learned a 
LOT in a short period 
of</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span> 
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;time, and so did I, but it was too 
short. &nbsp;By the end of 
the</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span> 
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;project I had the client calling me 
up to ask how they 
could</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span> 
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;reword things so they didn't reflect 
a control response. : 
)</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span> 
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;That was good, but obviously if 
they need me for this 
then</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span> 
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;there is some way to go. &nbsp;And 
different client reps 
had</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span> 
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;different levels of self 
reflection.</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote 
type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span> 
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;Hosting an isolated OST workshop 
against this grain was 
very</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span> 
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;ambitious, it was always going to be, 
no matter how we</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span> 
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;conducted 
ourselves.</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote 
type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span> 
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;And perhaps 20% were very proactive, 
and led the bulk of 
the</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span> 
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;work that occurred... they saved the 
day!</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote 
type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span> 
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;But the length of the OST was not 
enough for this 
leadership</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span> 
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;to really be contagious and 
precipitate a productive 
culture.</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote 
type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span> 
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;*Or in other words: we struggled to 
free up authorisation 
to</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span> 
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;be more 
dynamic*</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote 
type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span> 
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;Reading your blog post Daniel, the 
idea of dynamic</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span> 
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;authorisation would have been very 
useful earlier in 
the</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span> 
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;project. &nbsp;Another way of looking 
at the project: we</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span> 
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;struggled to free the space of 
ingrained authority to 
enable</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span> 
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;dynamic 
authorisation.</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote 
type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span> 
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;There were lots of other insights 
into how we could 
have</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span> 
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;done it differently, but to me these 
were the 
fundamental</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span> 
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;stumbling blocks for 
us.</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote 
type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span> 
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;Still, they were not too big, and I'm 
pleased we made a 
good</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span> 
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;start.</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote
 type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote 
type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span> 
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;My favourite feedback was "thank you, 
this was the first</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span> 
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;time I have been part of genuine 
engagement in more than 
a</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span> 
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;decade in the sector" : 
)</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote 
type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span> 
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;Next time, we will do 
better.</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote 
type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote 
type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span> 
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;*/John 
Baxter/*</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote 
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&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;On Tue, Sep 30, 2014 at 12:07 AM, 
Daniel Mezick</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span> 
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&lt;<a 
href="mailto:d...@newtechusa.net";>d...@newtechusa.net</a>&gt; 
wrote:</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote 
type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span> 
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;Hi 
John,</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote 
type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span> 
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;Yours is a very interesting 
story.</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote 
type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span> 
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;You 
say:</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote 
type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote 
type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span> 
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;/"...To be honest*I am not sure* how 
I need to deal 
with</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span> 
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;this, though *my strategy is to 
accept the authority* 
for</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span> 
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;hosting the space in the next 
workshop, *obsolving 
the</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span> 
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;department of their responsibility* 
to manage the 
day."</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote 
type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span> 
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;"...I don't think it is feasible for 
the obvious 
authority</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span> 
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;candidates hosting something 
genuinely participatory. 
*The</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span> 
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;relevant director has said she 
doesn't want to 
speak</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span> 
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;formally and become The Authority for 
the day*, a position 
I</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span> 
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;agree 
with."/</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote 
type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote 
type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote 
type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote 
type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote 
type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span> 
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;In the situation as described, it 
sounds like the org is 
the</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span> 
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;very earliest stages of moving in a 
direction of more</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span> 
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;open/participatory/inviting.</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote
 type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote 
type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span> 
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;Do you agree with this 
assessment?</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote 
type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote 
type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote 
type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span> 
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;If this assessment is correct, based 
on what you describe, 
I</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span> 
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;would probably avoid attempting Open 
Space in the 
canonical</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span> 
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;form whatsoever (as described in the 
OST GUIDE) &nbsp;because 
the</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span> 
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;Sponsor role is vacant. Unoccupied. 
And so, by my 
reckoning,</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span> 
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;if I understand you right, a true 
Open Space event 
isn't</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span> 
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;even possible, because the essential 
OST-Sponsor-role is 
in</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span> 
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;fact not willingly occupied by anyone 
with enough 
authority</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span> 
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;to play that essential role 
well.</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote 
type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span> 
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;What's clear is that someone who 
could function as</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span> 
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;OST-Sponsor is currently unwilling to 
do so. And so I 
might</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span> 
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;try a "taster" or "demo" event 
instead, where the goal is 
to</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span> 
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;/learn about Open Space in general/, 
and do a /little/ 
bit</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span> 
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;of "real" work too. Especially if the 
allotted time a 
mere</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span> 
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;1/2 day, I am even more inclined to 
strongly favor 
this</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span> 
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;re-framing of the stated 
goals.</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote 
type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span> 
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;So the primary and stated goal for 
the "taster" is 
learning</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span> 
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;about OST. Another goal for a short 
event might be to 
see</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span> 
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;who shows up super-interested in the 
art of 
Facilitation,</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span> 
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;and then offer to mentor those who do 
self-select by 
showing</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span> 
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;interest. &nbsp;In this manner some 
Facilitation capacity 
is</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span> 
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;developed inside the org, to help 
with current meetings 
and</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span> 
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;processes. Introducing Facilitation 
into typical meetings 
is</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span> 
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;a easy and effective "culture 
hack".</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote 
type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote 
type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote 
type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span> 
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;For me, the total unwillingness of an 
obvious candidate 
to</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span> 
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;occupy the Sponsor role is a huge 
warning signal to 
slow</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span> 
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;down, pause, or even 
stop.</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote 
type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span> 
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;Lots of people here have more 
experience than me, and 
might</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span> 
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;be willing to lend you some of their 
expertise regarding 
the</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span> 
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;authority dynamics of Facilitating an 
OST event with the</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span> 
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;essential OST-Sponsor-role completely 
vacant</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote 
type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote 
type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote 
type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span> 
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;Kind 
Regards,</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span> 
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;Daniel</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote
 type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote 
type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span> 
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;On 9/28/14 11:30 PM, John Baxter 
wrote:</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote 
type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span> 
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;I am 
navigating some challenging authority dynamics in 
a</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span> 
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;project at 
the moment.</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote 
type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span> 
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;I was brought 
in a week out from the first of 
three</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span> 
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;forums, and 
asked to 'facilitate a codesign 
process'</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span> 
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;which was at 
that stage a black box (with many 
hidden</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span> 
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;expectations) 
scheduled into that event (1 hour 
before</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span> 
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;lunch and 1 
hour afterwards).</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote 
type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span> 
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;It's a long 
journey, but you can imagine how my role 
has</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span> 
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;changed as I 
prepare for the third forum which I 
am</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span> 
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;hosting in 
Open Space.</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote 
type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span> 
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;The overall 
process is an engagement between 
a</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span> 
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;government 
department and their funded agencies. 
&nbsp;The</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span> 
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;most obvious 
direct power dynamics are obvious, 
the</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span> 
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;effective 
power and authority dynamics are much 
more</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span> 
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;complex 
(though 
predictable).</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote 
type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span> 
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;Department 
staff have authority challenges as much 
as</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span> 
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;the agencies. 
They are trying so hard to be 
'neutral'</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span> 
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;and 'non 
controlling' that they are 
effectively</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span> 
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;reinforcing 
their own authority positions (which 
often</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span> 
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;have little 
real correlation to the power, knowledge 
etc</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span> 
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;that they 
imagine them to).</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote 
type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span> 
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;To be honest 
I am not sure how I need to deal with 
this,</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span> 
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;though my 
strategy is to accept the authority 
for</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span> 
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;hosting the 
space in the next workshop, obsolving 
the</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span> 
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;department of 
their responsibility to manage the 
day.</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote 
type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span> 
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;It has been 
interesting to watch push back so far 
from</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span> 
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;agency reps 
who are committed to participating, who 
are</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span> 
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;genuinely 
engaged, but are playing to an us-them 
tension</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span> 
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;that is 
getting in the way of the shared work 
(and</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span> 
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;serves them 
no good ends except protecting them 
from</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span> 
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;their own 
responsibility). Stand-offishness is 
gradually</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span> 
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;being 
resolved, though some pockets are holding 
firm.</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote 
type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span> 
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;I am crossing 
my fingers for WS3 that we can 
traverse</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span> 
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;these and get 
into Open Space without being pushed 
off</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span> 
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;the bridge by 
the reactionary tension; and that once 
on</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span> 
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;the other 
side, the department reps can embrace 
Open</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span> 
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;Space and 
take responsibility for their 
role.</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote 
type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span> 
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;We will get 
across /as long as I have the authority/ 
to</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span> 
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;host the 
space for them.</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote 
type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span> 
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;I don't think 
it is feasible for the obvious 
authority</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span> 
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;candidates 
hosting something genuinely 
participatory.</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span> 
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;The relevant 
director has said she doesn't want to 
speak</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span> 
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;formally and 
become The Authority for the day, 
a</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span> 
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;position I 
agree with.</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote 
type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span> 
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;But it does 
leave something of a shell, where I 
am</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span> 
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;crossing my 
fingers that our time together thus 
far</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span> 
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;affords me 
the authority to host that 
space.</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote 
type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span> 
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;I think we 
are ready. I am bringing my harness 
and</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span> 
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;floaties just 
in case.</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote 
type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote 
type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span> 
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;*/John 
Baxter/*</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote 
type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span> 
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;/? Co?Create 
Adelaide Facilitator, Director 
of</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span> 
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;Realise 
consultancy/</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote 
type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span> 
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;<a 
href="http://CoCreateADL.com";>CoCreateADL.com</a> 
?</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span> 
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&lt;<a 
href="http://cocreateadl.com/localgov%E2%80%8B";>http://cocreateadl.com/localgov%E2%80%8B</a>&gt;
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href="http://jsbaxter.com.au";>jsbaxter.com.au</a> &lt;<a 
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&lt;tel:0405%20447%20829&gt;</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote
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type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span> 
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;? | 
?</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote 
type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span> 
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;@jsbaxter_ 
&lt;<a 
href="http://twitter.com/jsbaxter_";>http://twitter.com/jsbaxter_</a>&gt;</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote
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&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;/City Grill? 
An Election Forum More Magnificent Than 
Any</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span> 
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;Ever Seen 
&lt;<a 
href="http://citygrill.eventbrite.com.au";>http://citygrill.eventbrite.com.au</a>&gt;/,</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote
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&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;Saturday 18 
October 2014</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span> 
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;Influence 
your city by building relationships 
and</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span> 
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;joining 
voices with others in your 
community</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote 
type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span> 
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;On Mon, Sep 
29, 2014 at 12:26 PM, Daniel Mezick 
via</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span> 
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;OSList &lt;<a 
href="mailto:oslist@lists.openspacetech.org";>oslist@lists.openspacetech.org</a>&gt;
 wrote:</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote 
type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span> 
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;Hi 
Harrison,</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote 
type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span> 
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;So 
interesting how the Law of 2 Feet authorizes me, 
and</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span> 
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;every other 
member of an OST event, to go anywhere 
we</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span> 
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;may want to 
go.</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote 
type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span> 
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;Without 
asking anyone else for any kind of 
"permission"...</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote 
type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote 
type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span> 
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;Reminds me of 
this past June, being in Camden with 
you,</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span> 
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;and Ethelyn, 
and Harold, and friends... when we 
were</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span> 
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;standing on 
the porch of that Camden 
restaurant...</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span> 
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;waiting for 
everyone to arrive, and assemble for 
dinner...</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote 
type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span> 
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;And as we 
wait, I notice there is 
this</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span> 
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;convenient-looking,
 alternate entry-door... into 
the</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span> 
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;dining 
area.</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote 
type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span> 
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;And I say: 
"Hmm...I wonder if we are authorized to 
use</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span> 
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;that 
door."</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote 
type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span> 
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;And you 
say:</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote 
type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span> 
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;"We're 
authorized to go Anywhere we want to 
go."</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote 
type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span> 
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;...and I like 
that.</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote 
type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span> 
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;Daniel</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote
 type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote 
type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote 
type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span> 
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;Picture of 
that place:</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span> 
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;<a 
href="https://twitter.com/DanielMezick/status/483054326265692161";>https://twitter.com/DanielMezick/status/483054326265692161</a></span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote
 type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span> 
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;See 
also:</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span> 
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;<a 
href="https://twitter.com/danielgullo/status/483434622009999360";>https://twitter.com/danielgullo/status/483434622009999360</a></span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote
 type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote 
type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote 
type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span> 
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&lt;mime-attachment.png&gt;</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote
 type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote 
type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span> 
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;On 9/25/14 
4:58 PM, Harrison Owen 
wrote:</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote 
type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span> 
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;Daniel...
 You really did it! I think. Your 
language</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span> 
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;comes
 from a place I don?t know... which is to 
say</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span> 
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;that
 I probably wouldn?t say what you say in the 
way</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span> 
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;that
 you do (duh). BUT when I run my ?translator? 
it</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span> 
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;comes
 out sounding pretty good! So... I can?t 
help</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span> 
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;with
 the questions you have raised. Actually I 
think</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span> 
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;you
 are doing pretty well on your own, 
and</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span> 
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;(hopefully)
 will incite others to a 
similarly</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span> 
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;riotous
 performance. 
Thanks!</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote 
type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span> 
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;Harrison</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote
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&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;<a
 
href="http://www.openspaceworld.com";>www.openspaceworld.com</a></span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote
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href="http://%20www.openspaceworld.com";>http://%20www.openspaceworld.com</a>&gt;</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote
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 href="http://www.ho-image.com";>www.ho-image.com</a> &lt;<a 
href="http://www.ho-image.com";>http://www.ho-image.com</a>&gt;</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote
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type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span> 
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;OSLIST
 To subscribe, unsubscribe, change 
your</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span> 
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;options,
 view the archives of OSLIST 
Go</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span> 
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;to:http://<a
 
href="http://lists.openspacetech.org/listinfo.cgi/oslist-openspacetech.org";>lists.openspacetech.org/listinfo.cgi/oslist-openspacetech.org</a></span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote
 type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote 
type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span> 
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;*From:*OSList</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote
 type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span> 
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;[<a
 
href="mailto:oslist-boun...@lists.openspacetech.org";>mailto:oslist-boun...@lists.openspacetech.org</a>]
 *On</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span> 
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;Behalf
 Of *Daniel Mezick via 
OSList</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span> 
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;*Sent:*
 Thursday, September 25, 2014 9:39 
AM</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span> 
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;*To:*
 <a 
href="mailto:oslist@lists.openspacetech.org";>oslist@lists.openspacetech.org</a></span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote
 type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span> 
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;*Subject:*
 [OSList] Authority Distribution in Open 
Space</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote 
type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span> 
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;Greetings
 to All,</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote 
type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span> 
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;For
 the past several years I have 
attended</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span> 
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;conferences
 of the Group Relations community, 
and</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span> 
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;encouraged
 others to do the same. I've studied 
their</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span> 
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;literature,
 and harvested some important learning 
as</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span> 
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;a
 result. One of the things I have come 
to</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span> 
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;understand
 a little bit better is the role 
of</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span> 
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;"authority
 dynamics" in self-organizing social 
systems.</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote 
type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span> 
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;Link:</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote
 type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span> 
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;<a
 href="http://www.akriceinstitute.org";>www.akriceinstitute.org</a> &lt;<a 
href="http://www.akriceinstitute.org";>http://www.akriceinstitute.org</a>&gt;</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote
 type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote 
type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span> 
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;Over
 the past several years I've been using 
Open</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span> 
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;Space
 with intent to improve the results of my 
work</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span> 
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;in
 helping companies implement Agile ideas in 
their</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span> 
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;organizations.
 We do an initial Open Space, then 
the</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span> 
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;folks
 get about 3 months to play with Agile 
(we</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span> 
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;carefully
 use the word "experimentation" 
with</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span> 
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;management,)
 then we do another Open Space 
after</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span> 
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;that,
 to inspect what just happened across 
the</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span> 
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;enterprise.
 The initial and subsequent Open 
Space</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span> 
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;events
 form a "safe" container or field in which 
the</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span> 
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;members
 can /learn/... as they explore how 
to</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span> 
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;/improve/
 together by /experimenting/ with 
new</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span> 
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;practices,
 and see if they actually work. I call 
the</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span> 
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;process
 Open Agile 
Adoption.</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote 
type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span> 
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;Link:</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote
 type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span> 
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;<a
 href="http://OpenAgileAdoption.com";>OpenAgileAdoption.com</a> &lt;<a 
href="http://OpenAgileAdoption.com";>http://OpenAgileAdoption.com</a>&gt;</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote
 type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote 
type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span> 
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;This
 seems to work pretty good. It seems to 
"take</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span> 
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;the
 air out of" most of the fear, most of 
the</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span> 
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;anxiety
 and most of the worry that is created. 
The</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span> 
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;key
 aspect is /consent/: absolutely no one is 
forced</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span> 
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;to
 do anything they are unwilling to do. No one 
is</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span> 
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;/coerced/
 to /comply/. Everyone is 
instead</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span> 
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;respectfully
 /invited/ to help /write/ the 
story,</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span> 
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;and
 be a /character/ in the story...of 
the</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span> 
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;contemplated
 process change. Open Agile 
Adoption</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span> 
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;encourages
 a spirit of experimentation and 
play.</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote 
type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span> 
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;The
 spirit of Open Space is the spirit of 
freedom.</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span> 
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;Isn't
 it? In the OST community, we discuss and 
talk</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span> 
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;a
 lot about self-organization, self-management 
and</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span> 
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;self-governance.
 The Agile community also 
talks</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span> 
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;about
 these ideas a 
lot.</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote 
type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span> 
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;So
 I have some questions. What is really going 
on</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span> 
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;during
 self-organization in a social system? 
What</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span> 
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;are
 the steps? What information is being sent 
and</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span> 
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;received?
 &gt;From whom, and by whom? Is 
the</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span> 
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;information
 about /authority/ important? 
How</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span> 
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;important?
 Can a social system self organize 
without</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span> 
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;regard
 to who has the right to do what work? /How 
do</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span> 
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;decisions
 that affect others get made in 
a</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span> 
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;self-organizing
 system?/</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote 
type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span> 
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;Who
 decides about /who decides/? How important 
is</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span> 
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;the
 process of /authorization/ in a 
self-organizing</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span> 
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;system?
 Is self-organization in large part 
the</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span> 
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;process
 of dynamic authorization 
(and</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span> 
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;/de-authorization/)
 in real time?</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote 
type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span> 
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;What
 /is /authorization? Can self-organization 
occur</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span> 
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;without
 the sending and receiving of 
authorization</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span> 
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;data
 by and between the 
members?</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote 
type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span> 
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;Is
 Bruce Tuckman's</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span> 
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;forming/storming/performing/adjourning
 actually</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span> 
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;decomposing
 the /dynamics of authorization/ inside 
a</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span> 
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;social
 system?</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote 
type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span> 
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;The
 essay below attempts to answer some of 
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type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span> 
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;difficult
 questions. I'd love your thoughts on 
it.</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span> 
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;Will
 you give it a 
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&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;Essay:
 Authority Distribution in Open 
Space</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 
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&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;Kind
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