It helps to have help for the first one, Agnieszka. This is mainly so that what peole think they know about you doesn't get too mixed up with what comes up for them about the os process.
That said, it's completely possible to do both roles right out the gate. You just have to be very clear inwardly but also outwardly about which role you're in at each moment. It helps, too, to open, not post or participate too actively in session oneā¦ then it gets going, you join in and try to not post or get sucked into the discussions at the last session, so you're ready to attend to finishing process details. Once you get some practice going back and forth, and people come to understand your movement between the roles, it can be very enjoyable ride, showing up very clearly at center and the being more and more adept at disappearing and giving the space back to everyone else. Just look out for getting stuck wobbling in the middle of those two endpoints! Michael On Wednesday, November 19, 2014, Karolina Iwa via OSList < oslist@lists.openspacetech.org> wrote: > dear aga, > > i agree with paul. there are moments and contexts where it might work and > actually work well. but it requires some prerequisites, like e.g. that > there are some ppl in the group who have OST experience and will hold the > space together with you. doing it all by yourself is a lonely place, i > know, i've tested it :) > > what i hear in your message is that you do not necessarily want to > facilitate the event, but due to a lack of resources assume you will not be > able to find anybody who would. here i would say - just ask. maybe there is > someone out there :) i mean, there are ppl who are searching for > opportunities to practice OST and would be delighted to support you in your > journey. even though the FB OST PL group just started and is only 28 pax, > you might still give it a try. ( > https://www.facebook.com/groups/1465618060390114/?fref=ts). > > also, i just posted a blog post sharing a bit of a similar experience: > http://karolinaiwa.com/5th-recording-a-facilitators-school-in-poland-doing-itself-hight-tatra-poland/ > > have a great day everybody, > > > karolina. > > > > ____________________________________ > *karolina iwa* > creativity & self-organisation > blog <http://www.karolinaiwa.com> I twitter > <https://twitter.com/karolinaiwa> I l > <http://de.linkedin.com/pub/karolina-iwa/58/9b6/403>inkedin > <http://de.linkedin.com/pub/karolina-iwa/58/9b6/403> > D: +49 15774 932193 > PL: +48 880 747578 > ____________________________________ > > On 19 November 2014 10:29, paul levy via OSList < > oslist@lists.openspacetech.org > <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','oslist@lists.openspacetech.org');>> wrote: > >> Dear Agnieszka >> >> You've probably heard from a lot of people or read in a manual somewhere >> that a facilitator shouldn't participate during an open space event. >> >> My view is that it is not always the case. There may be good reasons in a >> particular context for the facilitator to remain in a clearly defined and >> detached role. In other contexts it is perfectly acceptable for someone to >> facilitate the opening of a space and also join in. All they need do is >> offer up a session at the marketplace like everyone else. >> >> I facilitate several open space events in Brighton each year where I also >> am a participant. To quote Kurt Vonnegut: "So it goes." >> >> I've done it many times and heard it done by others. >> >> But where, in the particular local context that might create confusion or >> difficulty, it might be better not to. >> >> The underlying principle at work here is that, as soon as the word >> "should" is mentioned in advance of any community's particular and unique >> open space, we have possibly cursed the future with the mediocrity of the >> present (and the past). When the space opens, whatever happens, happens, >> and it will be beautiful. "Shoulding" in advance is like telling a child >> what they ARE going to be when they grow up. >> >> warm wishes >> >> Paul Levy >> >> On 19 November 2014 07:58, Agnieszka Maja Wawrzyniak via OSList < >> oslist@lists.openspacetech.org >> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','oslist@lists.openspacetech.org');>> wrote: >> >>> Hi All, >>> >>> I am to facilitate an Open Space for a team I am a part of and I really >>> would like to participate, but as a facilitator, I know I shouldn't. >>> We will probably not able to hire an external facilitator, so I'm tryng >>> to work this out... >>> >>> Do you have similar experiences? Any ideas? 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