Archives etc: Dear Harold: a deep bow and tremendous gratitude for the meticulous way you've stewarded OST and helped it "open" to its "calling". You are truly a gift from "beyond"!!
I hope you and Daniel (and all of those who are so inspired) will pursue your inklings re whether the self organizing nature of the internet/wwweb mirrors OST. And if yes? What can we learn? For instance, what is the impact situationally of "Friends" or "friending"?? How might that change achieving "flow", or viral transmission/adoption of new cultural memes?? Why "Agile/OST" marriage?? Etc. Love to all, especially YOU, dear Harold! Anne Your Self Occupy 100% A world that works for ALL is a world of love made visible Phone: 206-459-0227 Skype: anne.m.stadler www.InClaritas.com www.CharterforCompassion.org www.ProtecttheSacred.org > On Mar 25, 2015, at 1:05 PM, via OSList <oslist@lists.openspacetech.org> > wrote: > > Send OSList mailing list submissions to > oslist@lists.openspacetech.org > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > http://lists.openspacetech.org/listinfo.cgi/oslist-openspacetech.org > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > oslist-requ...@lists.openspacetech.org > > You can reach the person managing the list at > oslist-ow...@lists.openspacetech.org > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of OSList digest..." > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Re: Death, Grief and Birth in Open Space > (Daniel Mezick via OSList) > 2. Re: Archives ready for search (Daniel Mezick via OSList) > 3. Re: Archives ready for search (Amanda Bucklow via OSList) > 4. Thought for the day (paul levy via OSList) > 5. Re: Thought for the day (Marie Ann ?stlund via OSList) > 6. Talking about Open Space with Slides (Harold Shinsato via OSList) > 7. Re: Death, Grief and Birth in Open Space > (Harold Shinsato via OSList) > 8. Re: Archives ready for search (Harold Shinsato via OSList) > 9. Re: Archives ready for search (Michael Herman via OSList) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Tue, 24 Mar 2015 22:33:09 -0400 > From: Daniel Mezick via OSList <oslist@lists.openspacetech.org> > To: Harrison <hho...@verizon.net>, 'World wide Open Space Technology > email list' <oslist@lists.openspacetech.org> > Subject: Re: [OSList] Death, Grief and Birth in Open Space > Message-ID: <55121e65.9060...@newtechusa.net> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"; Format="flowed" > > Death and dying are essential. In the 1990s, there was an amazing > economy in the USA happening. And I remember discussing with Roberta my > wife "....this can't go on forever." And she said, and we together > continue to say exactly what you said Harrison... "...everything has a > beginning, a middle and and end." > > My sense is, and I think the sense of many others, is that worldwide, we > are near the "middle of the end" of all the cherished > institutions....and the "standard narrative" that has worked for so > long. It's over. > > "To get a good job- get a good education." > > "Work really hard and you'll be prosper more than you parents did." > > > > Really? How's that story working for us these days? Now what's > interesting is the wave riders..."wave people" seem to be doing OK. > > "... A ronin was a masterless samuri during the feudal period > (1185?1868) of Japan. A samurai became masterless from the ruin or fall > of his master, or after the loss of his master?s favor or privilege. > Since a ronin doesn?t serve any lord, he is no longer a samurai. A > samurai is a ?servant?, since the noun came from the verb ?/saburau/? > which is the Japanese for ?to serve?.*The word **/ronin/**literally > means ?wave man?* ? one who is tossed about, as on the waves in the sea..." > > Daniel > > > >> On 3/24/15 11:33 AM, Harrison wrote: >> >> Dan ? Should it be true that self organization is a core function of >> life, and that Open Space is a way to access that core function, it >> would follow that life in all of its aspects would show up in one way >> or another in Open Space. And the only thing we know for certain about >> life is that it ends. Everything else is up for grabs. The 5^th >> Principle (When it?s over, it?s over) acknowledges as much. If >> something changes, something else ends. Happens regular as clockwork. >> Ending can also be called Death. >> >> Death, however, sends most people scurrying for the sidelines. Until >> very recently we weren?t even supposed to talk about it, and those who >> did were thought to be obsessive, morbid, and weird. I guess I can >> understand this, but the price is a heavy one. We end up with a very >> monochromatic, idealized sort of life ? void of the deep ebb and flow >> that makes life so varied and interesting. That sort of life may >> appeal to lovers of certainty, which would include most of us and >> particularly managers and executives. Unfortunately it is pure >> illusion. Never happened, never will. Fact of the matter is, at least >> in the world I inhabit, everything has a beginning, middle and end. >> >> Ending is almost always painful, but it seems to be the essential >> precursor for beginning. No ending, no beginning. Which would also >> mean that evolution, change, transformation, growth and development >> all would be out of the picture. But there is no getting away from the >> pain. It is there and real, and if we as human beings are to continue >> our growth and development that pain must be dealt with. In my >> experience, it is the Griefwork Process that enables us to do just >> that. Not only in extreme moments, but every day as the changes/death >> marking our growth as individuals and collectives pass on by. >> >> So does death, change, ending, grief, renewal take place in Open >> Space? I dearly hope so, and if not we should chuck the whole deal. >> >> Harrison >> >> Winter Address >> >> 7808 River Falls Drive >> >> Potomac, MD 20854 >> >> 301-365-2093 >> >> Summer Address >> >> 189 Beaucaire Ave. >> >> Camden, ME 04843 >> >> 207-763-3261 >> >> Websites >> >> www.openspaceworld.com <%20www.openspaceworld.com> >> >> www.ho-image.com >> >> OSLIST To subscribe, unsubscribe, change your options, view the >> archives of OSLIST Go >> to:http://lists.openspacetech.org/listinfo.cgi/oslist-openspacetech.org >> >> *From:*OSList [mailto:oslist-boun...@lists.openspacetech.org] *On >> Behalf Of *Daniel Mezick via OSList >> *Sent:* Sunday, March 22, 2015 12:46 AM >> *To:* Harrison; 'World wide Open Space Technology email list' >> *Subject:* [OSList] Death, Grief and Birth in Open Space >> >> The SPIRIT book covers grief and grief-work in some depth. I find this >> theme of death and dying ("passing") to be a major part of what is >> typically unspoken and typically going on in an Open Space... when and >> where the stakes are /high/. >> >> There is a death/"annihilation" going on there, that seems to be part >> of what it takes to actually get from here to there. >> >> Harrison uses these terms and words in the post below: >> >> * "terminal" >> * "last rites" >> * "damaged org" >> * "survival stuff" >> >> >> Ouch. That smarts! "Birth" seems an obvious aspect of >> healthy-and-well-functioning Open Space...does this go for "death" as >> well? >> >> On 3/21/15 4:18 PM, Harrison wrote: >> >> Dan --- Our organizations are definitely stodgy. Even the best of >> them seem to clunk along when compared to what they might be >> doing. God knows how you could ever produce any numbers to prove >> this assertion, but I have yet to met anybody (even the wildest >> enthusiast) who would affirm that their organization was running >> in top form. Good yes... but with lots of room for improvement. >> But I suspect that the critical issue is NOT a matter of ?low >> level of development,? rather it is a case of self inflicted >> wounds causing radical sub-optimization. The ?cure? would then be >> to stop the wounding, at least until we could see how things might >> go. Of course, *if the situation really is terminal*, then by all >> means, Bring it on! That could be SCRUM, Facilitation, *Last >> Rites*, whatever... >> >> So what would an organization look like if it stopped being shot? >> How would it perform? >> >> Sounds pretty abstract and difficult to visualize... but I do >> believe we get the picture in wild living color, every time we >> have the privilege of *opening the space for a damaged >> organization*, where the trouble is real and palpable. I?m not >> talking about the two hour Open Space on some frilly, safe topic. >> I mean the real deal where the stakes are seriously high. >> *Survival stuff*. >> >> My experience is shared by many, and the stories are often told. >> My most recent encounter was with a very large US federal agency, >> which according to its director was so dysfunctional that ?most of >> the people could not find their rear ends with both hands? (That?s >> a direct quote). They were in trouble by any standard, and the >> Chief was so out of options that Open Space sounded like a safe >> way to go ? even though he had never seen one. >> >> Well we did it... and the organization I saw bore no relationship >> to the one that had been described to me. The people were all the >> same, the issues were familiar... but the behavior was brilliant. >> Total flowing conversation with real engagement and workable >> solutions. Mind Bending! And the chief was blown away ? walking >> around with a silly grin on his face. >> >> I invited him to lunch because I wanted to feed him several drinks >> and ask a question. We had the lunch, and after the drinks, came >> the question: ?What are you doing, Sir, as a matter of everyday >> business that converts 177 bright, engaged, competent people into >> blundering fools?? He looked a little surprised and I said, ?I >> think you might want to stop doing it.? >> >> Dan ? That?s my point. Before we do anything more, different, or >> otherwise ? I sincerely believe we need to stop and appreciate >> what apparently happens very naturally, all by itself, with >> minimal or no assistance. And after that appreciative moment, we >> might think of a few things to do, but only a very few. >> >> Harrison >> >> Winter Address >> >> 7808 River Falls Drive >> >> Potomac, MD 20854 >> >> 301-365-2093 >> >> Summer Address >> >> 189 Beaucaire Ave. >> >> Camden, ME 04843 >> >> 207-763-3261 >> >> Websites >> >> www.openspaceworld.com <%20www.openspaceworld.com> >> >> www.ho-image.com >> >> OSLIST To subscribe, unsubscribe, change your options, view the >> archives of OSLIST Go >> to:http://lists.openspacetech.org/listinfo.cgi/oslist-openspacetech.org >> >> -- >> >> Daniel Mezick, President >> >> New Technology Solutions Inc. >> >> (203) 915 7248 (cell) >> >> Bio <http://newtechusa.net/dan-mezick/>. Blog >> <http://newtechusa.net/blog/>. Twitter >> <http://twitter.com/#%21/danmezick/>. >> >> Examine my new book:The Culture Game >> <http://newtechusa.net/about/the-culture-game-book/>: Tools for the >> Agile Manager. >> >> Explore Agile Team Training >> <http://newtechusa.net/services/agile-scrum-training/> and Coaching. >> <http://newtechusa.net/services/agile-scrum-coaching/> >> >> Explore the Agile Boston <http://newtechusa.net/user-groups/ma/>Community. > > -- > > Daniel Mezick, President > > New Technology Solutions Inc. > > (203) 915 7248 (cell) > > Bio <http://newtechusa.net/dan-mezick/>. Blog > <http://newtechusa.net/blog/>. Twitter <http://twitter.com/#%21/danmezick/>. > > Examine my new book:The Culture Game > <http://newtechusa.net/about/the-culture-game-book/>: Tools for the > Agile Manager. > > Explore Agile Team Training > <http://newtechusa.net/services/agile-scrum-training/> and Coaching. > <http://newtechusa.net/services/agile-scrum-coaching/> > > Explore the Agile Boston <http://newtechusa.net//user-groups/ma/>Community. > > -------------- next part -------------- > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > URL: > <http://lists.openspacetech.org/pipermail/oslist-openspacetech.org/attachments/20150324/236732d7/attachment.html> > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 2 > Date: Tue, 24 Mar 2015 22:36:12 -0400 > From: Daniel Mezick via OSList <oslist@lists.openspacetech.org> > To: oslist@lists.openspacetech.org > Subject: Re: [OSList] Archives ready for search > Message-ID: <55121f1c.1060...@newtechusa.net> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="windows-1252"; Format="flowed" > > Harold, the archives are very awesome. Thank you ! > > Daniel > >> On 3/24/15 10:34 AM, Christine Whitney Sanchez via OSList wrote: >> Harold, I'm so grateful for your perseverance in service to us all and >> for holding the space for open space. >> >> Christine >> >> Sent from my iPad >> >> On Mar 24, 2015, at 1:31 AM, Suzanne Daigle via OSList >> <oslist@lists.openspacetech.org >> <mailto:oslist@lists.openspacetech.org>> wrote: >> >>> Harold, your gift of time and skill is most appreciated and behind it >>> the great gift of all these archives. I could easily get lost in them >>> reading and savoring them for s year or more. >>> Thank you! >>> Suzanne >>> >>> On Mar 24, 2015 2:21 AM, "Koos de Heer via OSList" >>> <oslist@lists.openspacetech.org >>> <mailto:oslist@lists.openspacetech.org>> wrote: >>> >>> Harold, >>> >>> You are truly awesome. Thank you so much for all the work you put >>> into this. And for keeping us informed all the time. >>> >>> I am sending you a virtual thank you hug. >>> >>> Koos >>> >>> Op 24 mrt. 2015 om 05:55 heeft Harold Shinsato via OSList >>> <oslist@lists.openspacetech.org >>> <mailto:oslist@lists.openspacetech.org>> het volgende geschreven: >>> >>>> Wow, can't believe I'm finally reporting success. The messages >>>> are all there and searchable. And it seems linkable. But the >>>> index only goes back 3000 messages. So you need to use the >>>> search if you want older messages. Below is more explanation, >>>> and a link back to the first 1996 OSLIST messages. >>>> >>>> Regards, >>>> Harold >>>> >>>>> >>>>> Actually, the messages are all there; here's some from 1996. I >>>> suspect you are >>>>> talking about the index pages only going back 3000 messages. >>>> This is normal >>>>> and explained in the FAQ. We do this for performance reasons >>>> and we expect >>>>> users to use search for older material. Most people (not >>>> everyone!) prefers >>>>> search to clicking a dozen times. >>>> http://www.mail-archive.com/faq.html#volume >>>> >>>> http://www.mail-archive.com/search?l=oslist%40lists.openspacetech.org&q=date%3A1996* >>>>> >>>>> Thanks, >>>>> Jeff >>>>> -- >>>>> Support >>>>> The Mail Archive >>>>> www.mail-archive.com <http://www.mail-archive.com> >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> OSList mailing list >>>> To post send emails to OSList@lists.openspacetech.org >>>> <mailto:OSList@lists.openspacetech.org> >>>> To unsubscribe send an email to >>>> oslist-le...@lists.openspacetech.org >>>> <mailto:oslist-le...@lists.openspacetech.org> >>>> To subscribe or manage your subscription click below: >>>> http://lists.openspacetech.org/listinfo.cgi/oslist-openspacetech.org >>>> Past archives can be viewed here: >>>> http://www.mail-archive.com/oslist@lists.openspacetech.org >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> OSList mailing list >>> To post send emails to OSList@lists.openspacetech.org >>> <mailto:OSList@lists.openspacetech.org> >>> To unsubscribe send an email to >>> oslist-le...@lists.openspacetech.org >>> <mailto:oslist-le...@lists.openspacetech.org> >>> To subscribe or manage your subscription click below: >>> http://lists.openspacetech.org/listinfo.cgi/oslist-openspacetech.org >>> Past archives can be viewed here: >>> http://www.mail-archive.com/oslist@lists.openspacetech.org >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> OSList mailing list >>> To post send emails to OSList@lists.openspacetech.org >>> <mailto:OSList@lists.openspacetech.org> >>> To unsubscribe send an email to oslist-le...@lists.openspacetech.org >>> <mailto:oslist-le...@lists.openspacetech.org> >>> To subscribe or manage your subscription click below: >>> http://lists.openspacetech.org/listinfo.cgi/oslist-openspacetech.org >>> Past archives can be viewed here: >>> http://www.mail-archive.com/oslist@lists.openspacetech.org >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> OSList mailing list >> To post send emails to OSList@lists.openspacetech.org >> To unsubscribe send an email to oslist-le...@lists.openspacetech.org >> To subscribe or manage your subscription click below: >> http://lists.openspacetech.org/listinfo.cgi/oslist-openspacetech.org >> Past archives can be viewed here: >> http://www.mail-archive.com/oslist@lists.openspacetech.org > > -- > > Daniel Mezick, President > > New Technology Solutions Inc. > > (203) 915 7248 (cell) > > Bio <http://newtechusa.net/dan-mezick/>. Blog > <http://newtechusa.net/blog/>. Twitter <http://twitter.com/#%21/danmezick/>. > > Examine my new book:The Culture Game > <http://newtechusa.net/about/the-culture-game-book/>: Tools for the > Agile Manager. > > Explore Agile Team Training > <http://newtechusa.net/services/agile-scrum-training/> and Coaching. > <http://newtechusa.net/services/agile-scrum-coaching/> > > Explore the Agile Boston <http://newtechusa.net//user-groups/ma/>Community. > > -------------- next part -------------- > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > URL: > <http://lists.openspacetech.org/pipermail/oslist-openspacetech.org/attachments/20150324/e15f903d/attachment-0001.htm> > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 3 > Date: Wed, 25 Mar 2015 05:20:43 +0000 > From: Amanda Bucklow via OSList <oslist@lists.openspacetech.org> > To: Harold Shinsato <har...@shinsato.com>, World wide Open Space > Technology email list <oslist@lists.openspacetech.org> > Subject: Re: [OSList] Archives ready for search > Message-ID: <b8bf035a-a258-4b60-aa56-707e6bfca...@facilit8.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > > Harold, you are a marvel! I hope you are basking in the well earned > appreciation of all of us for creating such a treasure trove of knowledge and > wisdom. > > Thank you. > > Amanda >> On 24 Mar 2015, at 04:55, Harold Shinsato via OSList >> <oslist@lists.openspacetech.org> wrote: >> >> Wow, can't believe I'm finally reporting success. The messages are all there >> and searchable. And it seems linkable. But the index only goes back 3000 >> messages. So you need to use the search if you want older messages. Below is >> more explanation, and a link back to the first 1996 OSLIST messages. >> >> Regards, >> Harold >> >>> >>> Actually, the messages are all there; here's some from 1996. I suspect you >>> are >>> talking about the index pages only going back 3000 messages. This is normal >>> and explained in the FAQ. We do this for performance reasons and we expect >>> users to use search for older material. Most people (not everyone!) prefers >>> search to clicking a dozen times. >> http://www.mail-archive.com/faq.html#volume >> <http://www.mail-archive.com/faq.html#volume> >> http://www.mail-archive.com/search?l=oslist%40lists.openspacetech.org&q=date%3A1996* >> >> <http://www.mail-archive.com/search?l=oslist%40lists.openspacetech.org&q=date%3A1996*> >>> >>> Thanks, >>> Jeff >>> -- >>> Support >>> The Mail Archive >>> www.mail-archive.com >>> <http://www.mail-archive.com/>_______________________________________________ >> OSList mailing list >> To post send emails to OSList@lists.openspacetech.org >> To unsubscribe send an email to oslist-le...@lists.openspacetech.org >> To subscribe or manage your subscription click below: >> http://lists.openspacetech.org/listinfo.cgi/oslist-openspacetech.org >> Past archives can be viewed here: >> http://www.mail-archive.com/oslist@lists.openspacetech.org > > -------------- next part -------------- > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > URL: > <http://lists.openspacetech.org/pipermail/oslist-openspacetech.org/attachments/20150325/f2063eb7/attachment-0001.htm> > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 4 > Date: Wed, 25 Mar 2015 11:22:53 +0000 > From: paul levy via OSList <oslist@lists.openspacetech.org> > To: World wide Open Space Technology email list > <oslist@lists.openspacetech.org> > Subject: [OSList] Thought for the day > Message-ID: > <CAAnJsbA6etSA29DX65yg_wY_=tFCgCpVmU16q4AaX=V7m++a=a...@mail.gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" > > Thought for the day: "When facilitators are gentle, inept, a bit lost, but > relaxed, the space usually opens wonderfully." > > warm wishes > > Paul Levy > -------------- next part -------------- > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > URL: > <http://lists.openspacetech.org/pipermail/oslist-openspacetech.org/attachments/20150325/3260fa6c/attachment-0001.htm> > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 5 > Date: Wed, 25 Mar 2015 14:33:57 +0100 > From: Marie Ann ?stlund via OSList <oslist@lists.openspacetech.org> > To: paul levy <p...@cats3000.net>, World wide Open Space Technology > email list <oslist@lists.openspacetech.org> > Subject: Re: [OSList] Thought for the day > Message-ID: > <CAEj6RKPDCL=dY7FMd786ibR1DZ1GJ8sxY7nP=nnch+u33tm...@mail.gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" > > Thank you Paul! > > On Wed, Mar 25, 2015 at 12:22 PM, paul levy via OSList < > oslist@lists.openspacetech.org> wrote: > >> Thought for the day: "When facilitators are gentle, inept, a bit lost, but >> relaxed, the space usually opens wonderfully." >> >> warm wishes >> >> Paul Levy >> >> _______________________________________________ >> OSList mailing list >> To post send emails to OSList@lists.openspacetech.org >> To unsubscribe send an email to oslist-le...@lists.openspacetech.org >> To subscribe or manage your subscription click below: >> http://lists.openspacetech.org/listinfo.cgi/oslist-openspacetech.org >> Past archives can be viewed here: >> http://www.mail-archive.com/oslist@lists.openspacetech.org > -------------- next part -------------- > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > URL: > <http://lists.openspacetech.org/pipermail/oslist-openspacetech.org/attachments/20150325/90b23f19/attachment-0001.htm> > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 6 > Date: Wed, 25 Mar 2015 10:11:48 -0600 > From: Harold Shinsato via OSList <oslist@lists.openspacetech.org> > To: OSLIST <oslist@lists.openspacetech.org> > Subject: [OSList] Talking about Open Space with Slides > Message-ID: <5512de44.4020...@shinsato.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"; Format="flowed" > > Dear People of the OSList, > > This was an interest I had when I was first trying to convey the value > of Open Space to people in the past. Especially since Lisa Heft had > shown me an awesome slide show about Open Space back in 2007. > > I've gotten a request from a colleague for slideware to talk about Open > Space to colleagues. > > FYI - I searched the archives and found hundreds of posts with the word > "slides". Found these three slide sets. > > http://www.spiritedorg.com/OSIAUNZintro.htm > http://www.spiritedorg.com/OSinPictures_files/frame.htm > http://www.mail-archive.com/oslist%40lists.openspacetech.org/msg03099/ppt_pres.ppt > > If anyone else has slides, would they share them? > > And secondly - since Lisa's slides were just pictures from Open Space > events around the world, and it was an exciting dialog at a table with > her laptop - what do y'all think about canned PowerPoint presentations > about Open Space? > > How would you coach me to coach my colleague when he's clearly already > got an audience for people willing to listen (he already did a > presentation based on the wikipedia entry - > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Open_Space_Technology.) How do we Open > Space for audiences perfectly content to sit and listen? > > Thanks in Advance! > Harold > > -- > Harold Shinsato > har...@shinsato.com <mailto:har...@shinsato.com> > http://shinsato.com > twitter: @hajush <http://twitter.com/hajush> > -------------- next part -------------- > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > URL: > <http://lists.openspacetech.org/pipermail/oslist-openspacetech.org/attachments/20150325/9b17d27a/attachment-0001.htm> > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 7 > Date: Wed, 25 Mar 2015 11:48:05 -0600 > From: Harold Shinsato via OSList <oslist@lists.openspacetech.org> > To: Daniel Mezick <d...@newtechusa.net>, World wide Open Space > Technology email list <oslist@lists.openspacetech.org> > Subject: Re: [OSList] Death, Grief and Birth in Open Space > Message-ID: <5512f4d5.6060...@shinsato.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"; Format="flowed" > > Dang, Daniel, wow... > > We're all /ronin/ here! Wave-people. Not everyone knows that there were > women as well as men samurai. > > In the two kanji symbols for ronin, ??, the second symbol is "man, > person, or people". For example, "???", means Japanese person. First > symbol is "Sun", second is "Origin", third is "Person". Person of the > land of the rising sun. > > The first symbol in /ronin/, means wave, but it can also mean wasteful, > or wreckless. So /ronin/ can also mean hobo or vagabond. Or hippie :-) > > Harold > >> On 3/24/15 8:33 PM, Daniel Mezick via OSList wrote: >> >> "... A ronin was a masterless samuri during the feudal period >> (1185?1868) of Japan. A samurai became masterless from the ruin or >> fall of his master, or after the loss of his master?s favor or >> privilege. Since a ronin doesn?t serve any lord, he is no longer a >> samurai. A samurai is a ?servant?, since the noun came from the verb >> ?/saburau/? which is the Japanese for ?to serve?.*The word >> **/ronin/**literally means ?wave man?* ? one who is tossed about, as >> on the waves in the sea..." >> >> Daniel > > -- > Harold Shinsato > har...@shinsato.com <mailto:har...@shinsato.com> > http://shinsato.com > twitter: @hajush <http://twitter.com/hajush> > -------------- next part -------------- > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > URL: > <http://lists.openspacetech.org/pipermail/oslist-openspacetech.org/attachments/20150325/5d6b1985/attachment-0001.htm> > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 8 > Date: Wed, 25 Mar 2015 11:58:10 -0600 > From: Harold Shinsato via OSList <oslist@lists.openspacetech.org> > To: OSLIST <oslist@lists.openspacetech.org> > Subject: Re: [OSList] Archives ready for search > Message-ID: <5512f732.2030...@shinsato.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="windows-1252"; Format="flowed" > > Thanks Amanda, Daniel, Suzanne, Koos, & Gail, > > I am basking, thanks so much for your appreciations. I must also admit > to feeling embarrassed and uncomfortable that the really long archive > outage happened on my watch :-( > > But I'm deeply grateful to this community for continuing to practice, > teach, and learn Open Space. The OSList very much aligns with, and has > informed, my life purpose and mission. > > Long Live the OSList! > > Your /saburau /(servant), > Harold > > >> On 3/24/15 11:20 PM, Amanda Bucklow wrote: >> Harold, you are a marvel! I hope you are basking in the well earned >> appreciation of all of us for creating such a treasure trove of >> knowledge and wisdom. >> >> Thank you. >> >> Amanda >>> On 24 Mar 2015, at 04:55, Harold Shinsato via OSList >>> <oslist@lists.openspacetech.org >>> <mailto:oslist@lists.openspacetech.org>> wrote: >>> >>> Wow, can't believe I'm finally reporting success. The messages are >>> all there and searchable. And it seems linkable. But the index only >>> goes back 3000 messages. So you need to use the search if you want >>> older messages. Below is more explanation, and a link back to the >>> first 1996 OSLIST messages. >>> >>> Regards, >>> Harold >>> >>>> >>>> Actually, the messages are all there; here's some from 1996. I >>> suspect you are >>>> talking about the index pages only going back 3000 messages. This >>> is normal >>>> and explained in the FAQ. We do this for performance reasons and we >>> expect >>>> users to use search for older material. Most people (not everyone!) >>> prefers >>>> search to clicking a dozen times. >>> http://www.mail-archive.com/faq.html#volume >>> http://www.mail-archive.com/search?l=oslist%40lists.openspacetech.org&q=date%3A1996* >>>> >>>> Thanks, >>>> Jeff >>>> -- >>>> Support >>>> The Mail Archive >>>> www.mail-archive.com <http://www.mail-archive.com/> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> OSList mailing list >>> To post send emails to OSList@lists.openspacetech.org >>> <mailto:OSList@lists.openspacetech.org> >>> To unsubscribe send an email to oslist-le...@lists.openspacetech.org >>> <mailto:oslist-le...@lists.openspacetech.org> >>> To subscribe or manage your subscription click below: >>> http://lists.openspacetech.org/listinfo.cgi/oslist-openspacetech.org >>> Past archives can be viewed here: >>> http://www.mail-archive.com/oslist@lists.openspacetech.org > > -- > Harold Shinsato > har...@shinsato.com <mailto:har...@shinsato.com> > http://shinsato.com > twitter: @hajush <http://twitter.com/hajush> > -------------- next part -------------- > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > URL: > <http://lists.openspacetech.org/pipermail/oslist-openspacetech.org/attachments/20150325/81e56291/attachment-0001.htm> > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 9 > Date: Wed, 25 Mar 2015 14:57:30 -0500 > From: Michael Herman via OSList <oslist@lists.openspacetech.org> > To: Harold Shinsato <har...@shinsato.com>, World wide Open Space > Technology email list <oslist@lists.openspacetech.org> > Subject: Re: [OSList] Archives ready for search > Message-ID: > <CAD8j=QFMkiWEA4+Dz6=veqwye-yubsaaqv2daa5s8noella...@mail.gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" > > you can feel as embarrassed or uncomfortable as you like, harold. won't > change the fact that the archives ONLY still exist at all because YOU took > responsibility for their care! > > > -- > > Michael Herman > Michael Herman Associates > 312-280-7838 (mobile) > > http://MichaelHerman.com > http://OpenSpaceWorld.org > > > On Wed, Mar 25, 2015 at 12:58 PM, Harold Shinsato via OSList < > oslist@lists.openspacetech.org> wrote: > >> Thanks Amanda, Daniel, Suzanne, Koos, & Gail, >> >> I am basking, thanks so much for your appreciations. I must also admit to >> feeling embarrassed and uncomfortable that the really long archive outage >> happened on my watch :-( >> >> But I'm deeply grateful to this community for continuing to practice, >> teach, and learn Open Space. The OSList very much aligns with, and has >> informed, my life purpose and mission. >> >> Long Live the OSList! >> >> Your *saburau *(servant), >> Harold >> >> >> >> On 3/24/15 11:20 PM, Amanda Bucklow wrote: >> >> Harold, you are a marvel! I hope you are basking in the well earned >> appreciation of all of us for creating such a treasure trove of knowledge >> and wisdom. >> >> Thank you. >> >> Amanda >> >> On 24 Mar 2015, at 04:55, Harold Shinsato via OSList < >> oslist@lists.openspacetech.org> wrote: >> >> Wow, can't believe I'm finally reporting success. The messages are all >> there and searchable. And it seems linkable. But the index only goes back >> 3000 messages. So you need to use the search if you want older messages. >> Below is more explanation, and a link back to the first 1996 OSLIST >> messages. >> >> Regards, >> Harold >> >>> >>> Actually, the messages are all there; here's some from 1996. I suspect >> you are >>> talking about the index pages only going back 3000 messages. This is >> normal >>> and explained in the FAQ. We do this for performance reasons and we >> expect >>> users to use search for older material. Most people (not everyone!) >> prefers >>> search to clicking a dozen times. >> http://www.mail-archive.com/faq.html#volume >> >> http://www.mail-archive.com/search?l=oslist%40lists.openspacetech.org&q=date%3A1996* >>> >>> Thanks, >>> Jeff >>> -- >>> Support >>> The Mail Archive >>> www.mail-archive.com >> _______________________________________________ >> OSList mailing list >> To post send emails to OSList@lists.openspacetech.org >> To unsubscribe send an email to oslist-le...@lists.openspacetech.org >> To subscribe or manage your subscription click below: >> http://lists.openspacetech.org/listinfo.cgi/oslist-openspacetech.org >> Past archives can be viewed here: >> http://www.mail-archive.com/oslist@lists.openspacetech.org >> >> >> >> -- >> Harold Shinsato >> har...@shinsato.com >> http://shinsato.com >> twitter: @hajush <http://twitter.com/hajush> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> OSList mailing list >> To post send emails to OSList@lists.openspacetech.org >> To unsubscribe send an email to oslist-le...@lists.openspacetech.org >> To subscribe or manage your subscription click below: >> http://lists.openspacetech.org/listinfo.cgi/oslist-openspacetech.org >> Past archives can be viewed here: >> http://www.mail-archive.com/oslist@lists.openspacetech.org > -------------- next part -------------- > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > URL: > <http://lists.openspacetech.org/pipermail/oslist-openspacetech.org/attachments/20150325/2c158d20/attachment-0001.htm> > > ------------------------------ > > Subject: Digest Footer > > _______________________________________________ > OSList mailing list > To post send emails to OSList@lists.openspacetech.org > To unsubscribe send an email to oslist-le...@lists.openspacetech.org > To subscribe or manage your subscription click below: > http://lists.openspacetech.org/listinfo.cgi/oslist-openspacetech.org > > > ------------------------------ > > End of OSList Digest, Vol 49, Issue 21 > **************************************
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