Archives etc:

Dear Harold: a deep bow and tremendous gratitude for the meticulous way you've 
stewarded OST and helped it "open" to its "calling".  You are truly a gift from 
"beyond"!! 

I hope you and Daniel (and all of those who are so inspired) will pursue your 
inklings re whether the self organizing nature of the internet/wwweb mirrors 
OST. And if yes? What can we learn?  For instance, what is the impact 
situationally of "Friends" or "friending"?? How might that change achieving 
"flow", or viral 
transmission/adoption of new cultural memes?? 
Why "Agile/OST" marriage??
Etc.

Love to all, especially YOU, dear Harold! Anne


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>   6. Talking about Open Space with Slides (Harold Shinsato via OSList)
>   7. Re: Death, Grief and Birth in Open Space
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>   8. Re: Archives ready for search (Harold Shinsato via OSList)
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> Message: 1
> Date: Tue, 24 Mar 2015 22:33:09 -0400
> From: Daniel Mezick via OSList <oslist@lists.openspacetech.org>
> To: Harrison <hho...@verizon.net>,    'World wide Open Space Technology
>    email list'    <oslist@lists.openspacetech.org>
> Subject: Re: [OSList] Death, Grief and Birth in Open Space
> Message-ID: <55121e65.9060...@newtechusa.net>
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> Death and dying are essential. In the 1990s, there was an amazing 
> economy in the USA happening. And I remember discussing with Roberta my 
> wife "....this can't go on forever." And she said, and we together 
> continue to say exactly what you said Harrison... "...everything has a 
> beginning, a middle and and end."
> 
> My sense is, and I think the sense of many others, is that worldwide, we 
> are near the "middle of the end" of all the cherished 
> institutions....and the "standard narrative" that has worked for so 
> long. It's over.
> 
> "To get a good job- get a good education."
> 
> "Work really hard and you'll be prosper more than you parents did."
> 
> 
> 
> Really? How's that story working for us these days? Now what's 
> interesting is the wave riders..."wave people" seem to be doing OK.
> 
> "... A ronin was a masterless samuri during the feudal period 
> (1185?1868) of Japan. A samurai became masterless from the ruin or fall 
> of his master, or after the loss of his master?s favor or privilege. 
> Since a ronin doesn?t serve any lord, he is no longer a samurai. A 
> samurai is a ?servant?, since the noun came from the verb ?/saburau/? 
> which is the Japanese for ?to serve?.*The word **/ronin/**literally 
> means ?wave man?* ? one who is tossed about, as on the waves in the sea..."
> 
> Daniel
> 
> 
> 
>> On 3/24/15 11:33 AM, Harrison wrote:
>> 
>> Dan ? Should it be true that self organization is a core function of 
>> life, and that Open Space is a way to access that core function, it 
>> would follow that life in all of its aspects would show up in one way 
>> or another in Open Space. And the only thing we know for certain about 
>> life is that it ends. Everything else is up for grabs. The 5^th 
>> Principle (When it?s over, it?s over) acknowledges as much. If 
>> something changes, something else ends. Happens regular as clockwork. 
>> Ending can also be called Death.
>> 
>> Death, however, sends most people scurrying for the sidelines. Until 
>> very recently we weren?t even supposed to talk about it, and those who 
>> did were thought to be  obsessive, morbid, and weird. I guess I can 
>> understand this, but the price is a heavy one.  We end up with a very 
>> monochromatic, idealized sort of life ? void of the deep ebb and flow 
>> that makes life so varied and interesting. That sort of life may 
>> appeal to lovers of certainty, which would include most of us and 
>> particularly managers and executives. Unfortunately it is pure 
>> illusion. Never happened, never will. Fact of the matter is, at least 
>> in the world I inhabit, everything has a beginning, middle and end.
>> 
>> Ending is almost always painful, but it seems to be the essential 
>> precursor for beginning. No ending, no beginning. Which would also 
>> mean that evolution, change, transformation, growth and development 
>> all would be out of the picture. But there is no getting away from the 
>> pain. It is there and real, and  if we as human beings are to continue 
>> our growth and development that pain must be dealt with. In my 
>> experience, it is the Griefwork Process that enables us to do just 
>> that. Not only in extreme moments, but every day as the changes/death 
>> marking our growth as individuals and collectives pass on by.
>> 
>> So does death, change, ending, grief, renewal take place in Open 
>> Space? I dearly hope so, and if not we should chuck the whole deal.
>> 
>> Harrison
>> 
>> Winter Address
>> 
>> 7808 River Falls Drive
>> 
>> Potomac, MD 20854
>> 
>> 301-365-2093
>> 
>> Summer Address
>> 
>> 189 Beaucaire Ave.
>> 
>> Camden, ME 04843
>> 
>> 207-763-3261
>> 
>> Websites
>> 
>> www.openspaceworld.com <%20www.openspaceworld.com>
>> 
>> www.ho-image.com
>> 
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>> *From:*OSList [mailto:oslist-boun...@lists.openspacetech.org] *On 
>> Behalf Of *Daniel Mezick via OSList
>> *Sent:* Sunday, March 22, 2015 12:46 AM
>> *To:* Harrison; 'World wide Open Space Technology email list'
>> *Subject:* [OSList] Death, Grief and Birth in Open Space
>> 
>> The SPIRIT book covers grief and grief-work in some depth. I find this 
>> theme of death and dying ("passing") to be a major part of what is 
>> typically unspoken and typically going on in an Open Space... when and 
>> where the stakes are /high/.
>> 
>> There is a death/"annihilation" going on there, that seems to be part 
>> of what it takes to actually get from here to there.
>> 
>> Harrison uses these terms and words in the post below:
>> 
>>  * "terminal"
>>  * "last rites"
>>  * "damaged org"
>>  * "survival stuff"
>> 
>> 
>> Ouch. That smarts! "Birth" seems an obvious aspect of 
>> healthy-and-well-functioning Open Space...does this go for "death" as 
>> well?
>> 
>> On 3/21/15 4:18 PM, Harrison wrote:
>> 
>>    Dan --- Our organizations are definitely stodgy. Even the best of
>>    them seem to clunk along when compared to what they might be
>>    doing. God knows how you could ever produce any numbers to prove
>>    this assertion, but I have yet to met anybody (even the wildest
>>    enthusiast) who would affirm that their organization was running
>>    in top form. Good yes... but with lots of room for improvement.
>>    But I suspect that the critical issue is NOT a matter of ?low
>>    level of development,? rather it is a case of self inflicted
>>    wounds causing radical sub-optimization. The ?cure? would then be
>>    to stop the wounding, at least until we could see how things might
>>    go. Of course, *if the situation really is terminal*, then by all
>>    means, Bring it on! That could be SCRUM, Facilitation, *Last
>>    Rites*, whatever...
>> 
>>    So what would an organization look like if it stopped being shot?
>>    How would it perform?
>> 
>>    Sounds pretty abstract and difficult to visualize... but I do
>>    believe we get the picture in wild living color, every time we
>>    have the privilege of *opening the space for a damaged
>>    organization*, where the trouble is real and palpable. I?m not
>>    talking about the two hour Open Space on some frilly, safe topic.
>>    I mean the real deal where the stakes are seriously high.
>>    *Survival stuff*.
>> 
>>    My experience is shared by many, and the stories are often told.
>>    My most recent encounter was with a very large US federal agency,
>>    which according to its director was so dysfunctional that ?most of
>>    the people could not find their rear ends with both hands? (That?s
>>    a direct quote). They were in trouble by any standard, and the
>>    Chief was so out of options that Open Space sounded like a safe
>>    way to go ? even though he had never seen one.
>> 
>>    Well we did it... and the organization I saw bore no relationship
>>    to the one that had been described to me. The people were all the
>>    same, the issues were familiar... but the behavior was brilliant.
>>    Total flowing conversation with real engagement and workable
>>    solutions. Mind Bending! And the chief was blown away ? walking
>>    around with a silly grin on his face.
>> 
>>    I invited him to lunch because I wanted to feed him several drinks
>>    and ask a question. We had the lunch, and after the drinks, came
>>    the question: ?What are you doing, Sir, as a matter of everyday
>>    business that converts 177 bright, engaged, competent people into
>>    blundering fools?? He looked a little surprised and I said, ?I
>>    think you might want to stop doing it.?
>> 
>>    Dan ? That?s my point. Before we do anything more, different, or
>>    otherwise ? I sincerely believe we need to stop and appreciate
>>    what apparently happens very naturally, all by itself, with
>>    minimal or no assistance. And after that appreciative moment, we
>>    might think of a few things to do, but only a very few.
>> 
>>    Harrison
>> 
>>    Winter Address
>> 
>>    7808 River Falls Drive
>> 
>>    Potomac, MD 20854
>> 
>>    301-365-2093
>> 
>>    Summer Address
>> 
>>    189 Beaucaire Ave.
>> 
>>    Camden, ME 04843
>> 
>>    207-763-3261
>> 
>>    Websites
>> 
>>    www.openspaceworld.com <%20www.openspaceworld.com>
>> 
>>    www.ho-image.com
>> 
>>    OSLIST To subscribe, unsubscribe, change your options, view the
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>> 
>> -- 
>> 
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>> 
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>> 
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>> 
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>> 
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> From: Daniel Mezick via OSList <oslist@lists.openspacetech.org>
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> Harold, the archives are very awesome. Thank you !
> 
> Daniel
> 
>> On 3/24/15 10:34 AM, Christine Whitney Sanchez via OSList wrote:
>> Harold, I'm so grateful for your perseverance in service to us all and 
>> for holding the space for open space.
>> 
>> Christine
>> 
>> Sent from my iPad
>> 
>> On Mar 24, 2015, at 1:31 AM, Suzanne Daigle via OSList 
>> <oslist@lists.openspacetech.org 
>> <mailto:oslist@lists.openspacetech.org>> wrote:
>> 
>>> Harold, your gift of time and skill is most appreciated and behind it 
>>> the great gift of all these archives. I could easily get lost in them 
>>> reading and savoring them for s year or more.
>>> Thank you!
>>> Suzanne
>>> 
>>> On Mar 24, 2015 2:21 AM, "Koos de Heer via OSList" 
>>> <oslist@lists.openspacetech.org 
>>> <mailto:oslist@lists.openspacetech.org>> wrote:
>>> 
>>>    Harold,
>>> 
>>>    You are truly awesome. Thank you so much for all the work you put
>>>    into this. And for keeping us informed all the time.
>>> 
>>>    I am sending you a virtual thank you hug.
>>> 
>>>    Koos
>>> 
>>>    Op 24 mrt. 2015 om 05:55 heeft Harold Shinsato via OSList
>>>    <oslist@lists.openspacetech.org
>>>    <mailto:oslist@lists.openspacetech.org>> het volgende geschreven:
>>> 
>>>>    Wow, can't believe I'm finally reporting success. The messages
>>>>    are all there and searchable. And it seems linkable. But the
>>>>    index only goes back 3000 messages. So you need to use the
>>>>    search if you want older messages. Below is more explanation,
>>>>    and a link back to the first 1996 OSLIST messages.
>>>> 
>>>>          Regards,
>>>>          Harold
>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> Actually, the messages are all there; here's some from 1996. I
>>>>    suspect you are
>>>>> talking about the index pages only going back 3000 messages.
>>>>    This is normal
>>>>> and explained in the FAQ. We do this for performance reasons
>>>>    and we expect
>>>>> users to use search for older material. Most people (not
>>>>    everyone!) prefers
>>>>> search to clicking a dozen times.
>>>>    http://www.mail-archive.com/faq.html#volume
>>>>    
>>>> http://www.mail-archive.com/search?l=oslist%40lists.openspacetech.org&q=date%3A1996*
>>>>> 
>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>> Jeff
>>>>> --
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> From: Amanda Bucklow via OSList <oslist@lists.openspacetech.org>
> To: Harold Shinsato <har...@shinsato.com>,    World wide Open Space
>    Technology email list    <oslist@lists.openspacetech.org>
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> Harold, you are a marvel! I hope you are basking in the well earned 
> appreciation of all of us for creating such a treasure trove of knowledge and 
> wisdom.
> 
> Thank you.
> 
> Amanda
>> On 24 Mar 2015, at 04:55, Harold Shinsato via OSList 
>> <oslist@lists.openspacetech.org> wrote:
>> 
>> Wow, can't believe I'm finally reporting success. The messages are all there 
>> and searchable. And it seems linkable. But the index only goes back 3000 
>> messages. So you need to use the search if you want older messages. Below is 
>> more explanation, and a link back to the first 1996 OSLIST messages.
>> 
>>      Regards,
>>      Harold
>> 
>>> 
>>> Actually, the messages are all there; here's some from 1996. I suspect you 
>>> are
>>> talking about the index pages only going back 3000 messages. This is normal
>>> and explained in the FAQ. We do this for performance reasons and we expect 
>>> users to use search for older material. Most people (not everyone!) prefers 
>>> search to clicking a dozen times. 
>> http://www.mail-archive.com/faq.html#volume 
>> <http://www.mail-archive.com/faq.html#volume>
>> http://www.mail-archive.com/search?l=oslist%40lists.openspacetech.org&q=date%3A1996*
>>  
>> <http://www.mail-archive.com/search?l=oslist%40lists.openspacetech.org&q=date%3A1996*>
>>> 
>>> Thanks,
>>> Jeff
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> From: paul levy via OSList <oslist@lists.openspacetech.org>
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> Subject: [OSList] Thought for the day
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> Thought for the day: "When facilitators are gentle, inept, a bit lost, but
> relaxed, the space usually opens wonderfully."
> 
> warm wishes
> 
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> From: Marie Ann ?stlund via OSList    <oslist@lists.openspacetech.org>
> To: paul levy <p...@cats3000.net>, World wide Open Space Technology
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> Thank you Paul!
> 
> On Wed, Mar 25, 2015 at 12:22 PM, paul levy via OSList <
> oslist@lists.openspacetech.org> wrote:
> 
>> Thought for the day: "When facilitators are gentle, inept, a bit lost, but
>> relaxed, the space usually opens wonderfully."
>> 
>> warm wishes
>> 
>> Paul Levy
>> 
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> From: Harold Shinsato via OSList <oslist@lists.openspacetech.org>
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> Subject: [OSList] Talking about Open Space with Slides
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> Dear People of the OSList,
> 
> This was an interest I had when I was first trying to convey the value 
> of Open Space to people in the past. Especially since Lisa Heft had 
> shown me an awesome slide show about Open Space back in 2007.
> 
> I've gotten a request from a colleague for slideware to talk about Open 
> Space to colleagues.
> 
> FYI - I searched the archives and found hundreds of posts with the word 
> "slides". Found these three slide sets.
> 
> http://www.spiritedorg.com/OSIAUNZintro.htm
> http://www.spiritedorg.com/OSinPictures_files/frame.htm
> http://www.mail-archive.com/oslist%40lists.openspacetech.org/msg03099/ppt_pres.ppt
> 
> If anyone else has slides, would they share them?
> 
> And secondly - since Lisa's slides were just pictures from Open Space 
> events around the world, and it was an exciting dialog at a table with 
> her laptop - what do y'all think about canned PowerPoint presentations 
> about Open Space?
> 
> How would you coach me to coach my colleague when he's clearly already 
> got an audience for people willing to listen (he already did a 
> presentation based on the wikipedia entry - 
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Open_Space_Technology.) How do we Open 
> Space for audiences perfectly content to sit and listen?
> 
>     Thanks in Advance!
>     Harold
> 
> -- 
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> From: Harold Shinsato via OSList <oslist@lists.openspacetech.org>
> To: Daniel Mezick <d...@newtechusa.net>,    World wide Open Space
>    Technology email list    <oslist@lists.openspacetech.org>
> Subject: Re: [OSList] Death, Grief and Birth in Open Space
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> Dang, Daniel, wow...
> 
> We're all /ronin/ here! Wave-people. Not everyone knows that there were 
> women as well as men samurai.
> 
> In the two kanji symbols for ronin, ??, the second symbol is "man, 
> person, or people".  For example, "???", means Japanese person. First 
> symbol is "Sun", second is "Origin", third is "Person". Person of the 
> land of the rising sun.
> 
> The first symbol in /ronin/, means wave, but it can also mean wasteful, 
> or wreckless.  So /ronin/ can also mean hobo or vagabond. Or hippie :-)
> 
>     Harold
> 
>> On 3/24/15 8:33 PM, Daniel Mezick via OSList wrote:
>> 
>> "... A ronin was a masterless samuri during the feudal period 
>> (1185?1868) of Japan. A samurai became masterless from the ruin or 
>> fall of his master, or after the loss of his master?s favor or 
>> privilege. Since a ronin doesn?t serve any lord, he is no longer a 
>> samurai. A samurai is a ?servant?, since the noun came from the verb 
>> ?/saburau/? which is the Japanese for ?to serve?.*The word 
>> **/ronin/**literally means ?wave man?* ? one who is tossed about, as 
>> on the waves in the sea..."
>> 
>> Daniel
> 
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> Message: 8
> Date: Wed, 25 Mar 2015 11:58:10 -0600
> From: Harold Shinsato via OSList <oslist@lists.openspacetech.org>
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> Subject: Re: [OSList] Archives ready for search
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> Thanks Amanda, Daniel, Suzanne, Koos, & Gail,
> 
> I am basking, thanks so much for your appreciations. I must also admit 
> to feeling embarrassed and uncomfortable that the really long archive 
> outage happened on my watch :-(
> 
> But I'm deeply grateful to this community for continuing to practice, 
> teach, and learn Open Space. The OSList very much aligns with, and has 
> informed, my life purpose and mission.
> 
> Long Live the OSList!
> 
>     Your /saburau /(servant),
>     Harold
> 
> 
>> On 3/24/15 11:20 PM, Amanda Bucklow wrote:
>> Harold, you are a marvel! I hope you are basking in the well earned 
>> appreciation of all of us for creating such a treasure trove of 
>> knowledge and wisdom.
>> 
>> Thank you.
>> 
>> Amanda
>>> On 24 Mar 2015, at 04:55, Harold Shinsato via OSList 
>>> <oslist@lists.openspacetech.org 
>>> <mailto:oslist@lists.openspacetech.org>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Wow, can't believe I'm finally reporting success. The messages are 
>>> all there and searchable. And it seems linkable. But the index only 
>>> goes back 3000 messages. So you need to use the search if you want 
>>> older messages. Below is more explanation, and a link back to the 
>>> first 1996 OSLIST messages.
>>> 
>>>      Regards,
>>>      Harold
>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Actually, the messages are all there; here's some from 1996. I 
>>> suspect you are
>>>> talking about the index pages only going back 3000 messages. This
>>> is normal
>>>> and explained in the FAQ. We do this for performance reasons and we
>>> expect
>>>> users to use search for older material. Most people (not everyone!)
>>> prefers
>>>> search to clicking a dozen times.
>>> http://www.mail-archive.com/faq.html#volume
>>> http://www.mail-archive.com/search?l=oslist%40lists.openspacetech.org&q=date%3A1996*
>>>> 
>>>> Thanks,
>>>> Jeff
>>>> --
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>>>> The Mail Archive
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> Date: Wed, 25 Mar 2015 14:57:30 -0500
> From: Michael Herman via OSList <oslist@lists.openspacetech.org>
> To: Harold Shinsato <har...@shinsato.com>,    World wide Open Space
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> you can feel as embarrassed or uncomfortable as you like, harold.  won't
> change the fact that the archives ONLY still exist at all because YOU took
> responsibility for their care!
> 
> 
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> Michael Herman
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> 
> On Wed, Mar 25, 2015 at 12:58 PM, Harold Shinsato via OSList <
> oslist@lists.openspacetech.org> wrote:
> 
>> Thanks Amanda, Daniel, Suzanne, Koos, & Gail,
>> 
>> I am basking, thanks so much for your appreciations. I must also admit to
>> feeling embarrassed and uncomfortable that the really long archive outage
>> happened on my watch :-(
>> 
>> But I'm deeply grateful to this community for continuing to practice,
>> teach, and learn Open Space. The OSList very much aligns with, and has
>> informed, my life purpose and mission.
>> 
>> Long Live the OSList!
>> 
>>    Your *saburau *(servant),
>>    Harold
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On 3/24/15 11:20 PM, Amanda Bucklow wrote:
>> 
>> Harold, you are a marvel! I hope you are basking in the well earned
>> appreciation of all of us for creating such a treasure trove of knowledge
>> and wisdom.
>> 
>> Thank you.
>> 
>> Amanda
>> 
>> On 24 Mar 2015, at 04:55, Harold Shinsato via OSList <
>> oslist@lists.openspacetech.org> wrote:
>> 
>> Wow, can't believe I'm finally reporting success. The messages are all
>> there and searchable. And it seems linkable. But the index only goes back
>> 3000 messages. So you need to use the search if you want older messages.
>> Below is more explanation, and a link back to the first 1996 OSLIST
>> messages.
>> 
>>      Regards,
>>      Harold
>> 
>>> 
>>> Actually, the messages are all there; here's some from 1996. I suspect
>> you are
>>> talking about the index pages only going back 3000 messages. This is
>> normal
>>> and explained in the FAQ. We do this for performance reasons and we
>> expect
>>> users to use search for older material. Most people (not everyone!)
>> prefers
>>> search to clicking a dozen times.
>> http://www.mail-archive.com/faq.html#volume
>> 
>> http://www.mail-archive.com/search?l=oslist%40lists.openspacetech.org&q=date%3A1996*
>>> 
>>> Thanks,
>>> Jeff
>>> --
>>> Support
>>> The Mail Archive
>>> www.mail-archive.com
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>> 
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