Hi Birgitt,

Thanks for your feedback. I'm enjoying using the "given" concept on the OSList, though I consider it less of a given, or rule, and hopefully more an invitation to initiate lots of awesome threads around each question or set of questions.

We really could use help invigorating the mission of the OSI-US, and at least we'd like to experiment with the idea that questions might be more powerful than answers. I'm hoping you'll accept my invitation to generate questions, but not consider it at all or in any way to discourage folks from offering answers. But hopefully you'll allow some space... just in a subject line... for questions.

And... that said... to paraphrase boisterously... whatever happens... is....

I'm extraordinarily happy you're having fun. And let the fun proceed!

    Thanks!
    Harold

On 7/19/16 12:20 PM, Birgitt Williams via OSList wrote:
Hi Harold,
You offered such a wonderful example of a 'given' that was not initially expressed and then came in with it later---something that can reduce or close a space when that happens. You opened space for inputs for the purpose of helping the Mission of the OS Institute US. By our nature and the freedom we experience in OST, those of us following the thread get inspired to respond to the questions...so far Harrison, Chris and myself have done so. Personally, I initially thought 'why questions?' and 'will this inspire me?'. And then as I saw the questions coming in, I wanted to jump in and answer as the very nature of some of the questions are provocative and if left unanswered, could incorrectly convey an opinion or conclusion. I was absolutely fascinated and I thought "Harold is so brilliant in asking for questions....this is the most fun I have had on the list in a long time, like having a whole buffet menu of topics to zero in on and contribute my thoughts to". Now, I am quite curious if we will stay within this new 'given' or just follow our inspiration.

Thank you for a fascinating experience,
Birgitt

On Tue, Jul 19, 2016 at 2:10 PM Chris Corrigan via OSList <oslist@lists.openspacetech.org <mailto:oslist@lists.openspacetech.org>> wrote:

    Okay!


    (But sometimes where ever it happens is the right place…:-) )

    Cheers,

    Chris


    On Jul 19, 2016, at 2:06 PM, Harold Shinsato <har...@shinsato.com
    <mailto:har...@shinsato.com>> wrote:

    Hi Chris,

    Since the thread is about helping the OSI-US find "mission
    questions", rather than answering the questions, I would
    encourage and invite you to reflect on these questions in
    separate threads to make the reflections easier to see and
    connect with via the subject line.

    I look forward to your reflections!

        Thanks!
        Harold


    On 7/19/16 11:13 AM, Chris Corrigan wrote:
    I like your questions Paul. They’re interesting! Can I add some
    reflections on them?

    On Jul 19, 2016, at 7:06 AM, paul levy via OSList
    <oslist@lists.openspacetech.org
    <mailto:oslist@lists.openspacetech.org>> wrote:

    Harold

     A few more questions ...

    Warm wishes

    Paul


    Why are we still calling OST a technology ?

    Still called a technology because it’s cheeky.  That’s my take
    anyway.


    Why is the LAW of two feel a law ?

    Law because, like the law of gravity it seems to be
    fundamentally inviolable. So it’s helpful to acknowledge it.
     You could probably acknowledge the law of gravity too, if you
    wanted to remind people not to drop their stuff. But at least
    acknowledging the law of mobility helps people understand why
    folks wander off during sessions.


    If the "principles" are not prescriptions but descriptions why
    are they called principles ?


Principles don’t have to be prescriptive to be principles. These four principles seem to capture four things (or five) that
    work about open space.  They are provocative and interesting and
    disruptive to normal meeting procedures.  And I have done many
    Open Space meetings without talking about them at all.

    How can it possibly take 2 days to "teach"
    OST and why would anyone ever want to teach it anyway ?


    It doesn’t take two days to “teach" Open Space Technology.  But
    to spend two days with other practitioners who are learning,
    thinking about, and trading ideas on using OST seems to
    accelerate people’s practice and use of the process and the
    underlying view of the world that it encapsulates.

    Open Space Technology is not “teacheable” but it is learnable.
    How’s that for a provocative proposition?

    Why do OST "elders" on the OS list keep advocating dogmatic
    views about OST? (Oh yes you do)


    Who are these “elders" of which you speak?


    What if one less thing to do was facilitation ?

    Yup.


    How could OSI begin a humble inquiry into new and valuable ways
    of opening space? And learn from them ?

    This is a really great question. Juanita Brown has convened a
    conversation on “the central garden” of participatory methods
    that is just such a humble inquiry. So humble that it has been
    approached slowly and quietly, and I’m sure she would welcome
    many others joining.  She’s been at it for a while:
    http://www.theworldcafe.com/more-from-juanita-brown/

    What questions do we need to ask that cannot be formed into
    latinised words and phrases ?

    This one:

    
http://ichef.bbci.co.uk/news/976/cpsprodpb/7FF2/production/_90345723_mediaitem90345722.jpg


    Where is open space technology when the world needs to open
    space most - right now ?


    It is right here where it has always been.   And I think there
    is a lot of space being opened in the world right now, in all
    kinds of ways.

    Opening space is not a guarantee of peace and good times. When
    space opens so too does authentic human voice. People that have
    been silent claim sound. People that have been displaced look
    for a new home. People that have been backed into corners clamp
    down on control and fear.  Does the world need open space most
    now? Or has open space given us the world we live in now?

    We have no guarantee of safety in this world. And when space
    open for some, others who didn’t ever realize they were taking
    up so much, suddenly start getting quite worried.  It’s nice to
    imagine the tables being turned over, unless one of the tables
    is mine.

    Chris



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