Safety:
Thanks for the question Harold, and the responses from Peggy & Birgit.
I want to go deeper into your second point Harold.
In my experience, many of
the situations where we're opening space (especially multicultural and with
people from divergent races, mixtures & backgrounds) -- and the spaces being
opened by the Universal Field-- require deliberate deep prior conversations by
the facilitation team to become aware of their own triggers and release them;
commitment to a collective intention of connecting to source (with each person
choosing way of doing so); and holding selves & each other accountable via the
development of a practice that's happening during the gathering.
Beyond "welcoming", i would say we must be "loving" whatever the Universe
brings in the door. It's a tall order and a truly great practice!
Love to you dear ones!!
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> Date: Tue, 20 Sep 2016 17:36:00 -0400
> From: Judy Gast via OSList <oslist@lists.openspacetech.org>
> To: Nick Heap <nickhea...@gmail.com>, World wide Open Space Technology
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> Nick, I designed and facilitated a two day event with about 40 ecumenists a
> year ago. I have never seen a group get so deep so fast and understand the
> benefits of the open space process. Think that it was helpful that we book
> ended the event with services, led by several of the senior participants and
> sponsors. We also had an opening evening, get to know each other, where each
> participant reflected on the question "tell us a story about when you have
> had an unanticipated surprise or blessing". That helped people get in the
> right mood and intention so that when we kick off the open space they went
> right to work.
>
>> On Sep 19, 2016, at 11:48 AM, Nick Heap via OSList
>> <oslist@lists.openspacetech.org> wrote:
>>
>> Hi All
>>
>> I was wondering if anyone has used Open Space to facilitate Interfaith
>> dialogue. It might be between people of different faiths or between people
>> working with those of different faiths (or both). I work with a local
>> Interfaith group and we are planning a public meeting for up to 250 people.
>> We're at the beginning of thinking about it, so any experience or ideas you
>> have would be very useful.
>>
>> I've had a quick search of the archive but found nothing relevant.
>>
>> Best wishes,
>> Nick Heap
>>
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> The one Harrison refers to is the one that I mentioned in my previous post.
> It was supposed to be 100 but due to the fact the pope was in Washington at
> the same time only about 45 came.
>
> As mentioned it was the most poignant and productive open space I have been
> involved with. There were some very deeply held beliefs that were discussed
> openly. Ecumenists by definition, are folks that should/are open to finding
> common ground amongst all the various truisms and universalisms amongst
> their various faiths. Although all were Catholic or Protestant, we did have
> some Christian scientists and others who hold differing beliefs than the
> other sects.
>
>
> Nick, glad to discuss further if helpful.
> Judy Gast
>
>> On Sep 19, 2016, at 4:30 PM, Harrison Owen via OSList
>> <oslist@lists.openspacetech.org> wrote:
>>
>> Doubtless there multiple experiences? but the last one I heard about was a
>> gathering of 100+ for a multi faith / ecumenical gathering sponsored by the
>> National Council of Churches. Of course there was also the time that
>> Michael Pannwitz and I took on 250 very senior Rabbis and Imams from all
>> over the world. Got real exciting, and it all worked.
>>
>> Harrison
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>> Sent: Monday, September 19, 2016 11:49 AM
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>> Subject: [OSList] Open Space and Interfaith
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>> Hi All
>>
>> I was wondering if anyone has used Open Space to facilitate Interfaith
>> dialogue. It might be between people of different faiths or between people
>> working with those of different faiths (or both). I work with a local
>> Interfaith group and we are planning a public meeting for up to 250 people.
>> We're at the beginning of thinking about it, so any experience or ideas you
>> have would be very useful.
>>
>> I've had a quick search of the archive but found nothing relevant.
>>
>> Best wishes,
>> Nick Heap
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> Claudia Gross, an Open Space colleague and a dear friend to us all has done
> something pretty amazing. Sharing it with you now on this special day.
>
> I am also reminded of the wonderful Open Space gatherings that have taken
> place at International House in New York for the past 20 years or so,
> hosted by Harrison and Karen Davis. The underlying theme has always been
> "The Practice of Peace".
>
> This amazing work of art, images, movement and words captures this theme
> and so much more.
>
> Enjoy and share!
>
> As a YouTube: https://m.youtube.com/watch?feature=youtu.be&v=U2boyxyGP0I
>
> As a Facebook link:
> https://www.facebook.com/speakgreenmovement/videos/1280427951980911/?hc_ref=NEWSFEED
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>
> Suzanne
>
>
> Suzanne Daigle
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> From: Thomas Herrmann via OSList <oslist@lists.openspacetech.org>
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> Subject: Re: [OSList] [GC] Time challenge - multiple short OSTs?
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> Wow thanks everyone contributing in this thread!
> I love the examples and learn from them and get strengthened. Often there is
> worry of negativity and criticism, but when space is opened passion and
> responsibility shows up :) Great example Michael H and Peggy. This keeps
> happening, isn't it?!
>
> Birgitt you had some questions about givens. The main purpose with this
> initiative is to invite people in the local community to find ways to
> support young people to learn more. So the main idea is to start local
> initiatives using the passion and responsibility of single persons, parents,
> grandparents etc as well as NGOs, companies, other public organizations -
> you name it.
>
> I think our pre-process has gotten us on common ground, there is no strong
> lobbying group that we think will try to take things over. So we probably go
> for organizing the 4 meetings within 2 weeks or so.
>
> So any actions that people can take responsibility for are welcome. My
> sponsor is working on clarifying the givens from a list that they created in
> our last planning meeting. I am considering to have some kind of converging
> activity where input can be given to the school system, complementing the
> actions that people can take on directly.
>
> Michael, thanks for your perspectives on givens and follow up. Definitely
> learning in that, for me. The handicraft with givens and how they are
> communicated is delicate. I like your questions for follow up. Will think
> more about that.
>
> Hilde, I love your idea to define the whole 4 meetings as one OST meeting.
> And to see how to hold the space for it!
>
> So again - my BIG thanks to all contributing in this thread!
> I will keep you posted on how things move on
> Hugs
> Thomas Herrmann
>
>
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> Skickat: den 17 september 2016 13:33
> Till: Judy Gast <jg...@sympatico.ca>; World wide Open Space Technology email
> list <oslist@lists.openspacetech.org>; Williams, Birgitt
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> ?mne: Re: [OSList] [GC] Time challenge - multiple short OSTs? (x-posted
> OS/GC-lists)
>
> Dear Judy,
>
> in my practice I have always suggested to the sponsor (when that topic came
> up) not to make promises regarding the support of any action that arose out
> of the ost gathering... other than to provide for what I called "Next
> Meeting(s)".
> The Next Meeting, 3.5 hours (between 4 and 8 weeks after the ost event),
> gives space to
>
> --- visualize the progress to date for each action
> --- have an exchange on the progress to date among all present
> --- collect and visualise future steps ("And Now?")
> --- exchange and add to "And Now?" by everyone present
> --- agree to the specific Next Step in each of the action groups
> --- have an exchange on the Next Steps and add stuff (ideas, I want to be
> part of this, etc.)
>
> This design can be repeated until all actions originally planned are done
> with (mostly two such meetings suffice but there have been situations where
> up to 4 Next Meetings were needed)... participants together with the
> sponsor(s) decide at the end of each Next Meeting whether and when the next
> Next Meeting should be.
> (A detailed account on this approach can be seen on pages 181 to 192 with
> lots of pictures in "Meine open space Praxis"... the photos and German
> language skills will help. Its available as hard cover and eBook
> https://www.westkreuz-verlag.de/de/Meine-open-space-Praxis
> https://www.westkreuz-verlag.de/de/Meine-open-space-Praxis-E-Book
>
>
> This approach ensures that those gathered around an action take the whole
> responsibility to actually see the action through. Whatever ressources they
> need from the organisation they need to and will acquire themselves. In
> other words, stuff happens because originators of actions see it through...
> its selforganisation all the way down and if an action is not supported I
> have heard of ingenious ways to get approval after all.
>
> This approach is based on various assumptions:
>
> --- participants gathered around an issue that they care/are passionate
> about and that they are willing to work/fight for will make progress on that
> issue completely irrespective of prior promises of support
> --- prior promises by the sponsor reduce either the passion or
> responsibility or both for a particular issue and give rise to a plethora of
> proposals
> --- actions by participants bringing progress to particular issues,
> especially sticky ones, will benefit not only a particular issue but will
> support the infrastructure for future action in the organisation
>
>
> Another assumption that I have worked with and which, over the years of
> practice has more and more left the realm of assumption is that resilient,
> robust action can be expected after an ost event that makes time for a whole
> day and a half, with the first day spent in ost and the second in Action
> Planning (Action Space)... optimal are 2.5 days (16 hours spread over 3 days
> and two nights sleep).
> And, following that assumption, I have always informed sponsors of the
> givens I just mentioned.
> In some cases this led to splitting the event in a 1 day ost gathering and a
> half day action planning a week later (this always led to having folks show
> up in the Action Space that were not at the ost-day... word spread that
> something important is going to happen).
>
> I should not forget to mention that I often was asked about a 3 or 4 hour
> event. Result was always that the sponsor decided to follow my suggestion to
> rethink the matter and give me a ring later. That ring always came and more
> often than not, the sponsor continued the search for a different design.
>
> And, if someone has a real business issue that requires immediate attention
> or hell breaks lose, if chaos and conflict can be seen right in front of
> you... even a space of less than 3 hours has to suffice to get actions in
> place... albeit, none of my 170 sponsors in the last 20 years faced such
> severe conditions but many wanted to reduce the time for a bypass operation
> from 7 hours to two.
>
> Greetings from Berlin
> mmp
>
>> On 16.09.2016 20:53, Judy Gast via OSList wrote:
>> To chime in here, I agree with Birgitt. The key to success is
>> insuring that there is a commitment to follow up through an officially
>> sanctioned and supported process and infrastructure. And as Michael
>> has said an appropriate communications plan so that everyone who wants
>> to come knows the details with appropriate lead time and
>> accessibility, including how to get involved in the implementation.
>> And the results are linked back to the meeting, and perhaps even the
>> person or persons who initiated the topic. This is true for any open
>> space, however these type of "public forum" sessions have more
>> propensity to be seen as an opportunity for people to complain and
> grandstand their issues.
>>
>> Look forward to reading more about it!
>>
>> Judy
>>
>> On Sep 16, 2016, at 12:15 PM, Birgitt Williams via OSList
>> <oslist@lists.openspacetech.org
>> <mailto:oslist@lists.openspacetech.org>>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi Thomas,
>>>
>>> I see that you are hoping to use OST and yet not totally sure if it
>>> will be your chosen method. I believe that OST is the only method
>>> that will be sufficient for what you want to accomplish. It meets all
>>> the criteria for when OST works best. The most important factor for
>>> me though, is the Law of Two Feet so that people can choose to stay
>>> or leave if there is hard lobbying for particular issues. I trust
>>> that with the Law of Two Feet and how it is explained, all such
>>> attempts will have only the effect that there is energy for...and no
> more.
>>>
>>> Long ago, Larry Peterson, Judy Gast, and myself were the three
>>> facilitators for three different OST meetings in the same big
>>> building at the same time. It is how the sponsors figured we could
>>> work well with about 600 people in meaningful ways around a very
>>> conflicted issue in the educational sector, in a short time. This
>>> allowed the reports of all three sessions to be available
>>> simultaneously and there were advantages in this for convergence of
>>> themes and the surprise that surfaced at the similarities and also
>>> dissimilarities of what came from the three separate OST meetings.
>>> Despite the conflicted issue and people picketing outside and us
>>> being briefed on the potential for violence and heave lobbying
>>> erupting in our meetings, there was no violence and the Law of Two
>>> Feet took care of the lobbying. I think you get a very different
>>> effect/outcomes if you have three concurrent OST meetings with three
>>> facilitators than you do if you have a sequence of meetings in which
>>> people who really want to get their agenda through go to all of the
> meetings.
>>>
>>> The givens are very important in relation to outcomes. When I work in
>>> a political context, I negotiate ahead of time with the political
>>> body who must 1. make decisions, 2. assign budget to future action and 3.
>>> be held accountable by the public including media. There are endless
>>> stories about successful OST meetings in which people feel so good at
>>> the end of the meeting. However, the more important stories are the
>>> ones in which after some months there was significant positive change.
>>> It seems that the job is not only to open space for people to have
>>> conversations and reach agreed upon recommendations....it is more
>>> importantly to open space in a rigid system that is well entrenched,
>>> political, and has certain accountability. I am rather curious about
>>> how you have set up for this.
>>>
>>> So...when I work in a political context, part of my negotiation is
>>> about whether action items can move forward by anyone in attendance
>>> ie: businesses, other organizations, individuals OR if the action
>>> items have to wait for a decision/vote by a particular political body
>>> like a school board. My favorite and most impactful experiences have
>>> been when the political body says right up front that any agreed on
>>> recommendations that do not need to access extra budget through the
>>> political body can go forward by anyone who has the passion and
>>> resources to do so....without waiting for some agreement on a bigger
>>> plan/budget. I admire political groups who are willing to open that
>>> much space in their communities to take action on solutions,
>>>
>>> Best wishes for a fantastic experience!
>>> Birgitt
>>>
>>> On Fri, Sep 16, 2016 at 3:37 AM Thomas Herrmann
>>> <tho...@openspaceconsulting.com
>>> <mailto:tho...@openspaceconsulting.com>> wrote:
>>>
>>> Dear friends in Open Space____
>>>
>>> I write to share about an exciting project and to ask to have
>>> feedback/ideas/experiences assisting me to refine/decide on the
>>> design I am working on.____
>>>
>>> __ __
>>>
>>> The project is in a neighbouring town of about 35 000 inhabitants.
>>> They are inviting everyone living there to explore ways to
>>> contribute to enhance the learning amongst children/youth
>>> complementing/supporting what is happening in the school. The top
>>> politician in the town, responsible for education/schools is my
>>> sponsor. During the spring I had a couple of meetings with the top
>>> politicians and managers for the school system. Then we widened
>>> the circles and had some meetings with other interest parties , to
>>> invite more engagement for this idea. ____
>>>
>>> __ __
>>>
>>> We have a plan that includes follow up, to support what is
>>> emerging, decide on next steps and make sure there is report back
>>> to what is happening and not.____
>>>
>>> __ __
>>>
>>> A couple of days ago we had our ?final? planning meeting getting
>>> the theme etc. Still working on wording but something like ?For
>>> the future of our children. How do we create conditions for
>>> enhanced learning for pupils in our community?? Of practical
>>> reasons evenings are considered the best options. Parents, pupils,
>>> teachers, business people, public workers etc etc are all busy
>>> daytime and weekends are not considered a good option. ?Everyone?
>>> will be invited but it?s hard to say how many will come to each
>>> meeting. I guess between 10-200 J____
>>>
>>> Now the plan is to have three 3-hour meetings in three different
>>> parts of the small community. I have suggested a fourth meeting
>>> where all are invited for convergence/action planning. There are
>>> of course several challenges. I am not even sure I will suggest we
>>> use OST even though I?d love to. I think a 3-hour meeting is the
>>> bare minimum for the simplest form of an OST meeting. On the other
>>> hand I see possibilities for this to be looked at like an OST
>>> meeting consisting of three occasions ? 3 hours + convergence in a
>>> fourth meeting for another 3 hours? That looks better, ey?____
>>>
>>> __ __
>>>
>>> There are some opportunities with this:____
>>>
>>> __1. __More time for the divergent process before
>>> converging.____
>>>
>>> __2. __People can choose to join several meetings, deepening
>>> their thinking____
>>>
>>> __3. __People can get access to more ideas/material from the
>>> 3 meetings.____
>>>
>>> __4. __There can be continued conversations online in
>>> between meetings and approaching meeting nbr 4.____
>>>
>>> __5. __There will be opportunities for people to create
>>> joint projects over ?boundaries? in the community (meeting nbr 4
>>> and online)____
>>>
>>> __ __
>>>
>>> There are several challenges with this too. ____
>>>
>>> __1. __There will be different people in all of the
> meetings____
>>>
>>> __a. __There needs to be a proper opening each time____
>>>
>>> __2. __3 hours is very short. My plan: Opening/agenda 45
>>> mts. Session 1 (45 mts). Session 2 (45 mts). Individual
>>> reflection/personal commitment (15 mts). Closing 30 mts.____
>>>
>>> __a. __For the actionplanning meeting (meeting nbr 4) I will
>>> probably use re-opening, after a brief opening and reading
>>> reports/reflecting. A couple of action planning sessions, 1 minute
>>> reportback/group and then closing.____
>>>
>>> __3. __How to bind everything together to one whole____
>>>
>>> __ __
>>>
>>> So far I lean towards this plan but I would love to hear to your
>>> ideas, thoughts, experiences and/or suggestions!____
>>>
>>> All the best____
>>>
>>> __ __
>>>
>>> Thomas Herrmann____
>>>
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> Date: Wed, 21 Sep 2016 11:16:12 -0700
> From: Harold Shinsato via OSList <oslist@lists.openspacetech.org>
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> Subject: [OSList] Safety
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> Dear People(s) of Open Space,
>
> What is the importance of safety? What, if any, work is needed in the
> "pre-work" to help ensure safety?
>
> It seems that safety is doomed if the "givens" are that the people in
> the organization must either be silent or agree with the "powers that
> be" on everything.
>
> I'm seeing two aspects to this. At one level, systemic oppression (such
> as explicitly killing, imprisoning, or otherwise effectively punishing
> dissent) clearly would shut down any opening in an open space.
>
> And at another level, safety is something we can be responsible in
> ourselves. With enough passion and courage, we can take responsibility
> for own safety. And also, it can be easy just to stay silent, or not to
> look beyond the smallness of our comfort zone because of the lenses we
> look through. And then we won't even try something out of fear, when
> something powerful could have been a result of us taking a small step
> (or a small series of steps to the center of the circle).
>
> What do you all think about safety, and helping to encourage people to
> source their own safety, as well as working with the "powers that be" to
> help ensure some level of safety?
>
> Thanks!
> Harold
>
> P.S. I did find one interesting post about this in the archives from the
> late Father Brian Bainbridge.
> http://www.mail-archive.com/oslist@lists.openspacetech.org/msg01333.html
>
>
> --
> Harold Shinsato
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> Message: 6
> Date: Wed, 21 Sep 2016 11:31:46 -0700
> From: Peggy Holman via OSList <oslist@lists.openspacetech.org>
> To: Harold Shinsato <har...@shinsato.com>, Open Listserv
> <oslist@lists.openspacetech.org>
> Subject: Re: [OSList] Safety
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> Great question Harold! I always wince when people say the space needs to be
> safe. If you make space so safe that it leaves the opportunity for messiness
> out, nothing happens. Sometimes I?ve said "safe enough?. Ultimately, as you
> said, a sense of safety comes from within.
>
> Rather than safety, I have come to focus on welcoming space. (With a nod to
> Juanita Brown, who helped me to understand the value of welcoming.) A spirit
> of welcome creates conditions for who and what shows up. And if you start
> cultivating a culture of welcome, then there?s room for all voices ? and
> those who come discover they belong.
>
> Peggy
>
>
>
>
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>> On Sep 21, 2016, at 11:16 AM, Harold Shinsato via OSList
>> <oslist@lists.openspacetech.org> wrote:
>>
>> Dear People(s) of Open Space,
>>
>> What is the importance of safety? What, if any, work is needed in the
>> "pre-work" to help ensure safety?
>>
>> It seems that safety is doomed if the "givens" are that the people in the
>> organization must either be silent or agree with the "powers that be" on
>> everything.
>>
>> I'm seeing two aspects to this. At one level, systemic oppression (such as
>> explicitly killing, imprisoning, or otherwise effectively punishing dissent)
>> clearly would shut down any opening in an open space.
>>
>> And at another level, safety is something we can be responsible in
>> ourselves. With enough passion and courage, we can take responsibility for
>> own safety. And also, it can be easy just to stay silent, or not to look
>> beyond the smallness of our comfort zone because of the lenses we look
>> through. And then we won't even try something out of fear, when something
>> powerful could have been a result of us taking a small step (or a small
>> series of steps to the center of the circle).
>>
>> What do you all think about safety, and helping to encourage people to
>> source their own safety, as well as working with the "powers that be" to
>> help ensure some level of safety?
>>
>> Thanks!
>> Harold
>>
>> P.S. I did find one interesting post about this in the archives from the
>> late Father Brian Bainbridge.
>> http://www.mail-archive.com/oslist@lists.openspacetech.org/msg01333.html
>> <http://www.mail-archive.com/oslist@lists.openspacetech.org/msg01333.html>
>>
>>
>> --
>> Harold Shinsato
>> har...@shinsato.com <mailto:har...@shinsato.com>
>> http://shinsato.com <http://shinsato.com/>
>> twitter: @hajush
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> Message: 7
> Date: Wed, 21 Sep 2016 18:40:37 +0000
> From: Birgitt Williams via OSList <oslist@lists.openspacetech.org>
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> Subject: Re: [OSList] Safety
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> Hi Harold,
> I believe that the greatest issues about safety come about when a
> facilitator attempts to reassure people that 'this is safe space'. We can
> never know if the space for conversations is actually safe, despite the
> safeguards built in by the four principles and the one law of OST. Those
> who choose to enact their leadership into the unknown, taking risks, being
> vulnerable, will do so....maybe now, maybe at a subsequent meeting. Those
> who for whatever reason need to hold back will do so.
>
> Even to assure people that they have some responsibility for safety in
> themselves assumes too much. People take risks, they may know or not know
> the consequences that might come about, the collateral damage that might
> ensue. People cannot be responsible for even personal safety as it is not
> within their control.
>
> And so I agree with what Peggy has offered as an alternative. The concept
> of welcoming space. This takes me to my concept that the facilitator
> doesn't open the welcoming space for the meeting....it must be the sponsor
> who does so.
>
> Great question Harold!
> Birgitt
>
> On Wed, Sep 21, 2016 at 2:32 PM Peggy Holman via OSList <
> oslist@lists.openspacetech.org> wrote:
>
>> Great question Harold! I always wince when people say the space needs to
>> be safe. If you make space so safe that it leaves the opportunity for
>> messiness out, nothing happens. Sometimes I?ve said "safe enough?.
>> Ultimately, as you said, a sense of safety comes from within.
>>
>> Rather than safety, I have come to focus on welcoming space. (With a nod
>> to Juanita Brown, who helped me to understand the value of welcoming.) A
>> spirit of welcome creates conditions for who and what shows up. And if you
>> start cultivating a culture of welcome, then there?s room for all voices ?
>> and those who come discover they belong.
>>
>> Peggy
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> _________________________________
>> Peggy Holman
>> Executive Director
>> Journalism that Matters
>> 15347 SE 49th Place
>> Bellevue, WA 98006
>> 206-948-0432
>> www.journalismthatmatters.net
>> www.peggyholman.com
>> Twitter: @peggyholman
>> JTM Twitter: @JTMStream
>>
>> Enjoy the award winning Engaging Emergence: Turning Upheaval into
>> Opportunity <http://www.engagingemergence.com>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Sep 21, 2016, at 11:16 AM, Harold Shinsato via OSList <
>> oslist@lists.openspacetech.org> wrote:
>>
>> Dear People(s) of Open Space,
>>
>> What is the importance of safety? What, if any, work is needed in the
>> "pre-work" to help ensure safety?
>>
>> It seems that safety is doomed if the "givens" are that the people in the
>> organization must either be silent or agree with the "powers that be" on
>> everything.
>>
>> I'm seeing two aspects to this. At one level, systemic oppression (such as
>> explicitly killing, imprisoning, or otherwise effectively punishing
>> dissent) clearly would shut down any opening in an open space.
>>
>> And at another level, safety is something we can be responsible in
>> ourselves. With enough passion and courage, we can take responsibility for
>> own safety. And also, it can be easy just to stay silent, or not to look
>> beyond the smallness of our comfort zone because of the lenses we look
>> through. And then we won't even try something out of fear, when something
>> powerful could have been a result of us taking a small step (or a small
>> series of steps to the center of the circle).
>>
>> What do you all think about safety, and helping to encourage people to
>> source their own safety, as well as working with the "powers that be" to
>> help ensure some level of safety?
>>
>> Thanks!
>> Harold
>>
>> P.S. I did find one interesting post about this in the archives from the
>> late Father Brian Bainbridge.
>> http://www.mail-archive.com/oslist@lists.openspacetech.org/msg01333.html
>>
>>
>> --
>> Harold Shinsato
>> har...@shinsato.com
>> http://shinsato.com
>> twitter: @hajush <http://twitter.com/hajush>
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