Thank you for this description, Peggy, And for enlightening me on what you brought into that Closing Circle, without naming it.
So a wish of mine had been fulfilled, and I never knew! I had discovered Bohm Dialogue in 2004, after several OSTs the year before. In more „normal“ OST’s I found that sometimes the conversation was too mental and linear for me, and too little listening took place. So I was interested in ways of going deeper. His book opened up new possibilities and touched me deeply. Yet I couldn’t find anyone close by who actually used it. I had a strong wish of participating in such a Dialogue. Now, 14 years later, I learn that I actually did. Big smile over here... Marai PS: I appreciate your links and the document you attached. > Am 16.07.2019 um 00:23 schrieb Peggy Holman via OSList > <oslist@lists.openspacetech.org>: > > Marai, > > I don’t think I ever mentioned Bohm Dialogue in Halifax. It just informed my > offering to what we did in that closing circle. > > Bohm Dialogue <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bohm_Dialogue> is a form of > circle process. It was the first practice I ever experienced in which a large > group (200+ people) sat in a circle and deeply explored a complex subject. > The year was 1993 and practicing this form of interaction is in part what set > me up to appreciate the power of Open Space when I met Harrison in 1994. > (BTW, Bohm Dialogue is more typically done with 20-40 people. But that first > time was at a conference in Portland, Oregon with Peter Senge and they had > 200+ people sitting in 2 concentric circles. I’d never seen anything like > that before. In fact, it was an experiment for the conference organizers.) > > In short, David Bohm was a physicist who saw dialogue as pathway for changing > consciousness in order to solve crises facing the planet. In fact, he wrote a > book called Changing Consciousness > <https://www.amazon.com/Changing-Consciousness-Exploring-Political-Environmental/dp/0062500724>. > He also wrote a seminal essay called On Dialogue > <https://books.google.com/books?id=MGGF_oF_aY0C&printsec=frontcover&dq=%22on+dialogue%22&hl=en&src=bmrr&ei=ARyeTd3tIMntObq92bQE&sa=X&oi=book_result&ct=book-thumbnail&resnum=1&ved=0CCkQ6wEwAA#v=onepage&q&f=false>. > These were early influences for me. > > What we did in that circle in Halifax was based on what I had learned and > experienced in working with Bohm Dialogue. We engaged in an open-ended > reflection in which people listened deeply to one another making our thinking > visible to the whole. > > Chris’ questions brought the whole system present. We became a “we” as the > considered the needs of individuals and the needs of the whole. > > Peggy > > P.S. I found something I put together in 2002 on how I practiced Bohm > Dialogue (attached). I eventually moved away from it because it takes so much > patience and self-regulation to do. Open Space seemed to yield similar or > better results and was much more fun. Still, I see circle processes, like > Bohm Dialogue, as the foundation of virtually all systemic, engagement > practices. > > <Dialogue Practices.pdf> > > > >> On Jul 15, 2019, at 11:28 AM, Marai Kiele >> <genuine-cont...@joyful-together.com >> <mailto:genuine-cont...@joyful-together.com>> wrote: >> >> That’s exactly what I am intending to describe in my short story, Peggy! >> I smile, reading your description. >> >> I don’t remember „Bohm dialogue“ (Are talking objects used in that?) >> Please remind me of what exactly you are referring to, so I can integrate >> that in my story. >> >> I do have a clear memory of the moment when Chris Corrigan picked up the >> talking object and spoke up. >> As I remember it, besides the „I“ language, he invited all who where >> expressing themselves to broaden their perspective. >> >> Not just think of „what do I want“ or „what do we, in this room, want“ but >> include all those around the globe who are not physically there. >> What would be best for the longterm flourishing of OST and for all those who >> belong to the community, in some way or another? >> What would be best for those who weren’t capable of bringing their >> perspective in themselves? >> >> To me, that was a sacred moment. I experienced that the whole atmosphere >> shifted, and after a while the next location had become clear to the whole >> group: >> Moscow / Russia. >> >> But I won’t give all the details of my whole story away in this email! ;-) >> >> Marai >> >> >>> Am 15.07.2019 um 18:17 schrieb Peggy Holman via OSList >>> <oslist@lists.openspacetech.org <mailto:oslist@lists.openspacetech.org>>: >>> >>> Yes, it was the year of Harrison’s 70th birthday. I remember the dancing! >>> >>> The closing circle keeps coming back to me. We had invitations to go to two >>> places in 2006. We used Bohm dialogue to discern where to go. I remember we >>> used a talking piece among the 50-60 people. I recall setting it up with >>> something like listen to each other and speak when moved. And you, Chris, >>> added the essential guidance to speak “I” language — from personal >>> experience. >>> >>> Peggy >>> >>> >>>> On Jul 14, 2019, at 11:17 PM, Chris Corrigan via OSList >>>> <oslist@lists.openspacetech.org <mailto:oslist@lists.openspacetech.org>> >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>> I remember 2005…it was celebrating Harrison’s 65th birthday I think too >>>> (or was it 70th? I just know it was significant). I wrote a song for him >>>> based on a Nova Scotia folks song…I’ll look through my old note books and >>>> see if I still have the lyrics. I was so nervous to sing it! I thin I >>>> rehearsed it with Esther Ewing, but I was too nervous to do it as a duet! >>>> >>>> I remember too that we also mourned our colleague Colin Morley, who was >>>> killed in the July 7 2005 London Underground bombings the month before. >>>> >>>> I met some life-long friends at that OSonOS, including Feliz Telik from >>>> Turkey and Piret Jeedas from Estonia who were both working (along with >>>> Kairi Birk) at Tim Merry’s Split Rock Learning Centre in Yarmouth. >>>> >>>> Halifax is such a great city. And it was a really fun time, probably my >>>> favourite of the three full OSonOS’s I attended (including the OSonOS IX >>>> which I co-hosted with Laurel Doersam in Vancouver in 2001). There was >>>> great conversation, a beautiful, community location and dancing and >>>> drinking every night! >>>> >>>> Chris >>>> >>>> >>>>> On Jul 14, 2019, at 1:37 PM, Jeff Aitken via OSList >>>>> <oslist@lists.openspacetech.org <mailto:oslist@lists.openspacetech.org>> >>>>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> That (first or second) Day's Inn osonos was late '94. It was after the >>>>> November US election when Newt G became Speaker of the House (he was on >>>>> TV at the hotel.) Funny how memory works. >>>>> >>>>> Jeff >>>>> San Francisco >>>>> >>>>> On Sun, Jul 14, 2019, 1:10 PM Jeff Aitken <r.jeff.ait...@gmail.com >>>>> <mailto:r.jeff.ait...@gmail.com>> wrote: >>>>> Hi, the archives don't seem to go back that far. Were we on the MetaNet >>>>> back then? Then the oslist was born in mid 90s when we needed a listserv >>>>> instead of a website based conversation? >>>>> >>>>> I remember the first or second Day's Inn gathering. >>>>> >>>>> Was a nice complement to the OT "Symposium on Organization >>>>> Transformation" taking place each July in different locations. The 9th US >>>>> OT was in Colorado '91 and the 12th US OT was in Napa California '94 - >>>>> and that's the limit of my memory :) >>>>> >>>>> Jeff >>>>> San Francisco >>>>> >>>>> On Sun, Jul 14, 2019, 10:02 AM Harrison Owen via OSList >>>>> <oslist@lists.openspacetech.org <mailto:oslist@lists.openspacetech.org>> >>>>> wrote: >>>>> The questions of when, how many and where have persisted over the years. >>>>> Frankly I can't remember either. Even the first one is foggy in terms of >>>>> year -- but I know where... Day's Inn at Dulles Airport. Suggestion is >>>>> that you use the search function on OSLIST. Somewhere "back there" I am >>>>> sure you will find the collective ruminations. >>>>> >>>>> Harrison >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> -----Original Message----- >>>>> From: Marai Kiele via OSList <oslist@lists.openspacetech.org >>>>> <mailto:oslist@lists.openspacetech.org>> >>>>> To: ost list international <oslist@lists.openspacetech.org >>>>> <mailto:oslist@lists.openspacetech.org>> >>>>> Cc: Marai Kiele <genuine-cont...@joyful-together.com >>>>> <mailto:genuine-cont...@joyful-together.com>> >>>>> Sent: Sun, Jul 14, 2019 7:07 am >>>>> Subject: [OSList] WOSonOS 2005 Nova Scotia - do you remember >>>>> >>>>> Hey folks, >>>>> >>>>> I am writing a short story about my experience at WOSonOS 2005 in Nova >>>>> Scotia. This will likely be published as a contribution to a short >>>>> stories book. >>>>> >>>>> It was my first and life-changing experience with collective sense making >>>>> (the way the location for the next WOSonOS was chosen, or rather: how it >>>>> became obvious to the group). >>>>> >>>>> I have the session reports from back then, but what I am missing are >>>>> numbers like: >>>>> >>>>> - How many participants were we? >>>>> - From approximately how many countries? >>>>> >>>>> And then the questions that probably have been asked many times before. >>>>> Yet I still couldn’t find the „right“ answer: >>>>> >>>>> - Since when does WOSonOS exist? >>>>> - In which locations / or in how many locations has it taken place up >>>>> to this year? >>>>> >>>>> Thanks a lot in advance! >>>>> Marai >>>>> >>>>> https://about.me/maraikiele <https://about.me/maraikiele> >>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> OSList mailing list >>>>> To post send emails to OSList@lists.openspacetech.org >>>>> <mailto:OSList@lists.openspacetech.org> >>>>> To unsubscribe send an email to oslist-le...@lists.openspacetech.org >>>>> <mailto:oslist-le...@lists.openspacetech.org> >>>>> To subscribe or manage your subscription click below: >>>>> http://lists.openspacetech.org/listinfo.cgi/oslist-openspacetech.org >>>>> <http://lists.openspacetech.org/listinfo.cgi/oslist-openspacetech.org> >>>>> Past archives can be viewed here: >>>>> http://www.mail-archive.com/oslist@lists.openspacetech.org >>>>> <http://www.mail-archive.com/oslist@lists.openspacetech.org>_______________________________________________ >>>>> OSList mailing list >>>>> To post send emails to OSList@lists.openspacetech.org >>>>> <mailto:OSList@lists.openspacetech.org> >>>>> To unsubscribe send an email to oslist-le...@lists.openspacetech.org >>>>> <mailto:oslist-le...@lists.openspacetech.org> >>>>> To subscribe or manage your subscription click below: >>>>> http://lists.openspacetech.org/listinfo.cgi/oslist-openspacetech.org >>>>> <http://lists.openspacetech.org/listinfo.cgi/oslist-openspacetech.org> >>>>> Past archives can be viewed here: >>>>> http://www.mail-archive.com/oslist@lists.openspacetech.org >>>>> <http://www.mail-archive.com/oslist@lists.openspacetech.org>_______________________________________________ >>>>> OSList mailing list >>>>> To post send emails to OSList@lists.openspacetech.org >>>>> <mailto:OSList@lists.openspacetech.org> >>>>> To unsubscribe send an email to oslist-le...@lists.openspacetech.org >>>>> <mailto:oslist-le...@lists.openspacetech.org> >>>>> To subscribe or manage your subscription click below: >>>>> http://lists.openspacetech.org/listinfo.cgi/oslist-openspacetech.org >>>>> <http://lists.openspacetech.org/listinfo.cgi/oslist-openspacetech.org> >>>>> Past archives can be viewed here: >>>>> http://www.mail-archive.com/oslist@lists.openspacetech.org >>>>> <http://www.mail-archive.com/oslist@lists.openspacetech.org> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> OSList mailing list >>>> To post send emails to OSList@lists.openspacetech.org >>>> <mailto:OSList@lists.openspacetech.org> >>>> To unsubscribe send an email to oslist-le...@lists.openspacetech.org >>>> <mailto:oslist-le...@lists.openspacetech.org> >>>> To subscribe or manage your subscription click below: >>>> http://lists.openspacetech.org/listinfo.cgi/oslist-openspacetech.org >>>> <http://lists.openspacetech.org/listinfo.cgi/oslist-openspacetech.org> >>>> Past archives can be viewed here: >>>> http://www.mail-archive.com/oslist@lists.openspacetech.org >>>> <http://www.mail-archive.com/oslist@lists.openspacetech.org> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> OSList mailing list >>> To post send emails to OSList@lists.openspacetech.org >>> <mailto:OSList@lists.openspacetech.org> >>> To unsubscribe send an email to oslist-le...@lists.openspacetech.org >>> <mailto:oslist-le...@lists.openspacetech.org> >>> To subscribe or manage your subscription click below: >>> http://lists.openspacetech.org/listinfo.cgi/oslist-openspacetech.org >>> <http://lists.openspacetech.org/listinfo.cgi/oslist-openspacetech.org> >>> Past archives can be viewed here: >>> http://www.mail-archive.com/oslist@lists.openspacetech.org >>> <http://www.mail-archive.com/oslist@lists.openspacetech.org> > > _______________________________________________ > OSList mailing list > To post send emails to OSList@lists.openspacetech.org > To unsubscribe send an email to oslist-le...@lists.openspacetech.org > To subscribe or manage your subscription click below: > http://lists.openspacetech.org/listinfo.cgi/oslist-openspacetech.org > Past archives can be viewed here: > http://www.mail-archive.com/oslist@lists.openspacetech.org
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