Birgitt,

Thank you for your reply and your thoughts. The conversation format worked 
smoothly for me, even added a level of depth I would say.

I am fascinated by accountability/responsibility and how things shift with it. 

One question came up there: I’m not sure about the difference between 
accountability and responsibility – will you tell me how you see it?

Kind regards,
Thomas

 

> On 21 Jul 2019, at 3.33, Birgitt Williams via OSList 
> <oslist@lists.openspacetech.org> wrote:
> 
> Dear Thomas,
> Thank you for your thoughtful reply. 
> 
> You raised the following points/question and I am responding to this "One 
> thing came to mind from a managers perspective. I think of a challenge 
> regarding legal responsibility for the assets. If it’s my company, I take the 
> risk by myself. If I am hired as manager for a company owned by someone else 
> and thinking about self-management, I feel unsure about giving away 
> decision-making power while remaining legally responsible. I would like to 
> have the owners in on that conversation."
> 
> Your concern about accountability for assets is similar to the dominant 
> concern that comes up for senior leaders. It is always the senior leader that 
> is held accountable for the performance of the organization and thus the 
> concern raised is inclusive of the concern about assets...it is about the 
> reality that their is personal accountability for performance. 
> 
> Following, I am writing as though we were having a conversation. I am not 
> certain how this will come across in email format. I invite you to imagine 
> that these are my replies within a conversation.
> 
> The senior leader makes strategic choices, with or without the involvement of 
> the owners of the company, or in the case of the non-profit, with or without 
> the Board of Directors.  If including the Board of Directors or owners, I 
> suggest presenting this as a strategy that you are recommending to accomplish 
> a particular business goal ie: increasing employee engagement, increasing the 
> health and well being of the organization, or other. 
> 
> There is wisdom in keeping authority linked with responsibility and 
> accountability. In my experience, when the question of sharing decision 
> making comes up, it is helpful to consider this triumvirate of 
> authority/responsibility/accountability including whether the authority and 
> accountability can be linked appropriately with whoever already has 
> responsibility for various aspects of the organization. It starts to make 
> sense to distribute the authority and accountability to achieve alignment 
> with responsibility. In our geographic area we have a wisdom that says 'it is 
> a fools errand to take on responsibility if you don't have the authority to 
> go with it to get the job done'.
> 
> Okay, if we are this far along in the discussion and the thinking/reflecting 
> about this topic, you may be saying "Birgitt, I get all of that. Yet i still 
> feel nervous about sharing the decision making and what we have discussed 
> doesn't really help me".
> 
> I would then introduce the concept of "givens" to you. It is the job of the 
> senior leader to determine the "givens" or non-negotiables that the senior 
> leader has decided upon. Working at the "givens" is one side of the task of 
> figuring out how much freedom you are giving the people within which to be 
> creative, innovative, and make decisions. As one Director said to me "in my 
> decades of career, getting honest with myself about the givens has been the 
> hardest work I have ever done. And now that it is done, and the givens are 
> communicated, and everyone is figuring out what they now have authority and 
> freedom for, this is amazing. My only regret is that I didn't do this sooner 
> in my career. When I defined the givens, for the first time I defined the 
> space within which I truly want the people to be free to be their best. I can 
> be accountable for our performance within this frame of 'givens' and the 
> clarity about the space I have opened up in my organization."
> 
> Thomas, this is the best I can do to describe the ways forward beyond the 
> tension created about sharing decision making. I am not on the same page as 
> some of the others on this list about self organized systems. I experience 
> value in having formal leaders, and in having appropriate hierarchy to 
> getting the job done. I am very passionate about leadership that supports a 
> culture of leadership. 
> 
> kind regards,
> Birgitt
> 
> 
> 
> Birgitt Williams
> Supporting Next Level Leadership "Leading So People Will Lead"
> Author, Senior Consultant, President Dalar International Consultancy, Inc 
> <http://www.dalarinternational.com/>
> Founder Genuine Contact Program 
> <http://www.dalarinternational.com/genuine-contact>
> Co-owner Genuine Contact Group, LLC 
> <https://genuinecontact.net/about/co-owners/>
> Founder Extraordinary Leadership Network 
> <http://www.extraordinaryleadershipnetwork.com/>
> 
> Learn with us for your skill and capacity development for leading and working 
> in the new leadership paradigm "Leading So People Will Lead"
> 
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> Self-Study + Real-Time Workshop + Mentoring Circle; and Self-Study + 
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> On Sat, Jul 20, 2019 at 11:18 AM Thomas Perret via OSList 
> <oslist@lists.openspacetech.org <mailto:oslist@lists.openspacetech.org>> 
> wrote:
> Birgitt,
> 
> This seems spot on regarding lasting change, I liked it a lot.
> 
> "The answer has consistently been about the leadership capacity of the 
> leadership team to lead an organization of people who are engaged in the ways 
> that were visible in the OST meeting. This is a vulnerable conversation to be 
> having and I feel a lot of respect for the leaders and the discussion.”
> 
> I read your whole mail aloud to a friend and this part touched me especially.
> 
> One thing came to mind from a managers perspective. I think of a challenge 
> regarding legal responsibility for the assets. If it’s my company, I take the 
> risk by myself. If I am hired as manager for a company owned by someone else 
> and thinking about self-management, I feel unsure about giving away 
> decision-making power while remaining legally responsible. I would like to 
> have the owners in on that conversation.
> 
> Has something like this come up for you? If yes, will you say something about 
> it?
> 
> Kindly,
> Thomas Perret
> 
> 
> 
> The answer has consistently been about the leadership capacity of the 
> leadership team to lead an organization of people who are engaged in the ways 
> that were visible in the OST meeting. This is a vulnerable conversation to be 
> having and I feel a lot of respect for the leaders and the discussion. 
> 
>> On 19 Jul 2019, at 4.07, Birgitt Williams via OSList 
>> <oslist@lists.openspacetech.org <mailto:oslist@lists.openspacetech.org>> 
>> wrote:
>> 
>> Dear friends and colleagues in Open Space,
>> When you facilitate an OST meeting in an organization, it is the formal 
>> leader who opens the space inside his/her organization for this meeting to 
>> take place. Whether the leader feels well versed in what OST is or is simply 
>> going along with something that has been recommended, that person has an 
>> experience that is also a big opportunity...for the single leader and/or the 
>> leadership team.
>> 
>> If you also recognize the wonderful opportunity in front of this leader as 
>> you have discussions with the leader and leadership team, you may be 
>> interested in the five self study modules that our team is calling our Next 
>> Level Leadership learning track 
>> <https://www.dalarinternational.com/curriculum/next-level-leadership/>. The 
>> five modules are designed for just such a leader to go through in a self 
>> study mode to encourage some of the thinking that is important to lead an 
>> organization within the new leadership paradigm within which OST fits 
>> "Leading So People Will Lead". 
>> 
>> Since 1992 I have been fascinated by what happens when formal leaders 
>> including leadership teams sponsor and experience an Open Space Technology 
>> meeting in their workplace. There are a few different story lines that 
>> emerged. First, it is important to share with you that within how we teach 
>> about Working with Open Space Technology in our Genuine Contact program, we 
>> encourage facilitators of the OST meeting to have a 'debrief meeting' with 
>> these leaders (the sponsors). The questions we ask in the debrief meeting 
>> are kept simple and are intended for heightening learning from the shared 
>> experience of having been in an OST meeting. Yes, simple action-reflection 
>> learning. 
>> 
>> In my experience, OST always works. And always, the quality and quantity of 
>> outcomes surpasses all expectations. So...that is part of what is reflected 
>> on during the debrief meeting. Within an OST meeting, there is always the 
>> experience of leadership popping up by just about everyone; people stating 
>> that they experience a shared vision during the meeting; a real sense of 
>> community with good communication throughout; and self management within the 
>> container created. This is also discussed in the debrief meeting. Then comes 
>> the question that for me is of utmost importance. Here it is "During the OST 
>> meeting, you experienced exceptional performance by the people who 
>> participated as you have just discussed. If you are not getting that 
>> exceptional performance every day, would you like to?".
>> 
>> Silence is the first response.
>> The second response is "no, this is not our daily experience"
>> Then comes the discussion of "we want this in our daily experience BUT we 
>> are not ready". I reply "you say you want exceptional performance. Your 
>> people have shown you within the OST meeting that they are capable of 
>> exceptional performance already. If you are not having this exceptional 
>> performance on a daily lived basis and you want it, what is it you are not 
>> ready for?"
>> 
>> The answer has consistently been about the leadership capacity of the 
>> leadership team to lead an organization of people who are engaged in the 
>> ways that were visible in the OST meeting. This is a vulnerable conversation 
>> to be having and I feel a lot of respect for the leaders and the discussion. 
>> 
>> My personal favorite outcome of the discussion is the leader (leadership 
>> team) expressing an interest in developing personal and group leadership 
>> capacity so that they can successfully lead an organization with a 
>> participatory architecture along the same lines as the participatory 
>> architecture of the OST meeting. 
>> 
>> Initially I proceeded with these leaders by teaching them how to work with 
>> OST to get the most harvest out of an OST meeting and to structure their 
>> organization to allow as much freedom and choice as possible. I realized 
>> that something was missing. I had jumped ahead too quickly. Just because the 
>> leader (leadership team) stated willingness, there are steps to take between 
>> that stated willingness and feeling ready and engaged in thinking and 
>> working in a more expanded concept of leadership. 
>> 
>> Now  when those leaders (leadership teams)  say they are willing to lead 
>> their organizations as a culture of leadership, the kind of culture that 
>> needs a participatory architecture with lots of use of OST meetings....we 
>> have them go through what we call our Next Level Leadership learning track 
>> <https://www.dalarinternational.com/curriculum/next-level-leadership/>. They 
>> can do these five modules as self study with lots of reflection about their 
>> thoughts about leadership...and then have a one to one (or group) mentoring 
>> session to have a conversation about what they are thinking regarding 
>> leadership. 
>> 
>> Placing this learning track in their hands assists them with discernment 
>> about leading for the leadership paradigm of "Leading So People Will Lead"; 
>> assists them in readiness and developing a plan for their readiness; and 
>> assists them with engaging in the development needed for what is a very 
>> challenging leadership role...well worth it, but challenging.
>> 
>> I hope that this has piqued your interest about one way to help leaders who 
>> are interested in leading for the kind of performance they experience in an 
>> OST meeting. This has been a passion of mine for a long long time...and I am 
>> very pleased with what happens when leaders take the time to go through this 
>> self study. Shift happens.
>> 
>> in genuine contact,
>> Birgitt
>> 
>> Birgitt Williams
>> Supporting Next Level Leadership "Leading So People Will Lead"
>> Author, Senior Consultant, President Dalar International Consultancy, Inc 
>> <http://www.dalarinternational.com/>
>> Founder Genuine Contact Program 
>> <http://www.dalarinternational.com/genuine-contact>
>> Co-owner Genuine Contact Group, LLC 
>> <https://genuinecontact.net/about/co-owners/>
>> Founder Extraordinary Leadership Network 
>> <http://www.extraordinaryleadershipnetwork.com/>
>> 
>> Learn with us for your skill and capacity development for leading and 
>> working in the new leadership paradigm "Leading So People Will Lead"
>> 
>> Upcoming learning module: Working with Open Space Technology 
>> <https://www.dalarinternational.com/curriculum/open-space-technology/>. 
>> Three different learning options to learn a process for facilitating 
>> meetings that engage the people. Self-Study + One-to-One Mentoring + 
>> Mentoring Circle; Self-Study + Real-Time Workshop + Mentoring Circle; and 
>> Self-Study + Real-Time Workshop + One-to-One Mentoring + Mentoring Circle 
>> with real time workshop dates three consecutive Fridays from 9am to 12:30pm 
>> EST on October 18, 25, and November 1st.
>> 
>> PO Box 19373, Raleigh, NC, USA 27613
>> Phone: 01-919-522-7750
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