Right here. Here are the links for the Tao of Holding Space and if you’d like a beautiful designed copy email me for details.
http://www.chriscorrigan.com/parkinglot/the-tao-of-holding-space/ Chris _____________ CHRIS CORRIGAN www.chriscorrigan.com > On Aug 21, 2019, at 11:38 AM, Harrison Owen via OSList > <oslist@lists.openspacetech.org> wrote: > > Paul – Wonderful to hear from you! And… several years ago I was in Beijing > with peers, colleagues and friends who collectively had doubtless done many > more OSTs than I – all in a most challenging environment. They asked me to > say something and I replied that actually I thought it had all been said some > 3000 years ago by a marvelous person, Lao Tzu. And I think you would be > interested in a wonderful book done by an old friend, Chris Corrigan called > the “Tao of Holding Space.” Chris shows up here (OSLIST) more than > occasionally – Chris where are you? I think he put it up (PDF) online??? You > will enjoy. > > Harrison > > From: Paul Nunesdea [mailto:p.nunes...@architectingcollaboration.com] > Sent: Wednesday, August 21, 2019 2:11 PM > To: World wide Open Space Technology email list > Cc: Harrison Owen > Subject: Re: [OSList] Okay...Forget Certification then...How about > Co-Creating a NEW OST ASSOCIATION? Such as...THE International Association > for Peace and Human Understanding...? > > Greetings HO, I have been away from this list except when something > extraordinarily contentious happens here, and I got attracted by the > certification subject. > > Yes, just to say I am among those that used OST by reading your book + an > extremely helpful and long coaching call from Lisa Heft - the Open Space > Community's Mary Magdalene. > > Since then the power of self-organization never ceased to amaze me, and to be > honest my most precious ally when big challenges are faced. > > I have written books about group facilitation in my mother languages, I argue > OST is the ultimate group facilitation methodology, inspired by seminal work > of very dear IAF colleagues (and your disciples?) here in Europe, Gerardo de > Luzemberg and Jean-Philippe Poupard. > > And your answer below, reinforces my faith on this absolute mystery of > self-organization that have been helping me so much. > > Tanks for the unsuspected Dee Hock's book recommendation, I will read it > next. > > I apologize Listers if this other unsuspected reference below has already > been discussed here before, but I recently re-discovered Lao Tzu book Tao Te > Ching (the book of the way) and cannot think about the resemblances with your > discoveries HO. > > If you like listening instead of reading, this is an amazing free resource on > Youtube: > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o2UYch2JnO4 > > I suspect Lao Tzu's interpretation of what the master will do about OST's > certification is just about what you have written below, beloved father. > > Best wishes > Paul Nunesdea | Paulo Nunes de Abreu > https://www.architectingcollaboration.com/ > > > > > > > On Tue, 20 Aug 2019 at 23:15, Harrison Owen via OSList > <oslist@lists.openspacetech.org> wrote: > Barry -- your notion about "scale" -- numbers of people -- is pretty close to > the accepted wisdom. Summed up in the old refrain, Some day we got to get > organized! Especially when we get bigger. Certainly makes sense, keeps a lot > of MBA programs in business, but simply doesn't accord with my experience. > First in terms of my usual standard reference... Open Spaces. The curious, > but I think instructive thing, is that every Open Space that I have > facilitated or been a part of -- regardless of size (5- 2108) has been > unnervingly the same. 10-15 minutes for opening, 20 min for issue > announcement, 30 minutes for market place arrangements (combinations, > reschedules, cup of coffee) 1 hour to start of first session -- and from > there on it all happened by itself. This has even been true in several > situation where a very hard working planning committee worked out every > detail in accord with the best meeting management protocols. Looked great on > paper, immediately fell apart, and just as quickly self organized, despite > their best efforts. Weird! > > Then there is the observed behavior and accomplishments of what we might > vaguely call, "The Open Space Community." If you put aside all question of > how we got there, the accomplishments I believe are rather impressive. Indeed > there are very few HR consulting groups that could come anywhere close. Just > take the numbers: 35 years in business, minimum 500,000 "interventions," > millions of participants, thousands of facilitators, massive coverage by the > international press, and a multitude of imitators -- which is always a > complement in a weird way. Not bad if I do say so myself. AND it might be > pointed out that all of this took place without a shred of formal > organization, no institutional funding, no defined leadership structure, zero > effort at standardization or certification. Why would anybody want to change > that ... even if you could? > > And then in the REAL WORLD... That would be Corporations, Governments, NGOs > -- I can give you any number of examples where such organizations spent > millions of $$$ to get organized, failed, -- and then opened some space to > accomplish in several days where they had failed miserably for years. I "did" > a few of those personally, but in most cases (if I was directly involved) I > advised that they save a lot of money, buy the book, and do it. And of course > there were any number of situations where sensitive participants of one OST > simply went out and "did" it again without benefit of book, training, > certification. Marvelous! > > And if you want "testimony" from a different, and presumably unbiased source, > check out Dee Hock, "Chaordic Organizations." > > Harrison (and -- of course -- also your father.) > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Barry Owen via OSList <oslist@lists.openspacetech.org> > To: World wide Open Space Technology email list > <oslist@lists.openspacetech.org> > Cc: Barry Owen <barryowen...@gmail.com>; Michael M Pannwitz > <mmpannw...@gmail.com> > Sent: Tue, Aug 20, 2019 11:10 am > Subject: Re: [OSList] Okay...Forget Certification then...How about > Co-Creating a NEW OST ASSOCIATION? Such as...THE International Association > for Peace and Human Understanding...? > > I've been mulling this over for months now. > Have come to what I think is a conclusion that blaming the mayhem on > "Organisations" is akin to "shooting the messenger" . . . making it a martyr. > After all, any time there's more than one person present, it's essentially > the birth of an "organisation". > I think the real problem is that of scale. > It seems to me that, as the number "Members" increases in any "gathering", > the perceived "need" for organisation becomes more prevalent. > As that dynamic evolves, the people seem to "forget" what "brung'm here" . . > . That is . . . those things that have never changed > > Breath > Circle > Bulletin Board > Marketplace > Expect to be (be prepared to be) surprised > > fall by the wayside as more and more "social constructs" emerge thereby > converting Open Space to Command and control. > Oh yeah . . . and "keeping up with the Joneses" > > My opinion is that the "mandate" of "just open more space anywhere and > everywhere" is an open invitation for all of us (humanity) to remember to: > > Breathe > Name the Theme (Important, Complex, Diversity of People/Opinions, potential > for conflict, need for resolution NOW) > Invite whoever cares > Gather in a circle > Create the Bulletin Board > Open the marketplace > Get to work! > > and the best news is that everyone already knows how to do this . . . we've > just gotta remind them. > > So . . . I think more organisations will "get" this as we open more space > every day. > > They're not broken or corrupt! > > Bless their hearts . . . They're simply forgetful, and all we've gotta do is > remind them. > > or something . . . > > b > > > On Tue, Aug 20, 2019 at 5:03 AM Michael M Pannwitz via OSList > <oslist@lists.openspacetech.org> wrote: > Dear all, > > my assumption regarding "organisation" is that they are the work of the > devil. > They are omnipresent. There is practically nothing that can do without > an "organisation". Government, churches, mafia, health care, schools, > prisons, military, restaurants, foundations, associations, universities, > concentration camps, secret service, sports, museums, shipyards, > daycare, labour unions, political parties, courts, NGOs, NATO, ... you > name it. > Thinking beyond "organisations" seems impossible. > Working for, in, against, with, through, in spite of, etc. > "organisations" is omnipresent. > And to make things even worse, they all are selforganising, right? > And despite or because of their existence we have wars, starvation, > pollution, glaciers disappearing, crime, corruption, you name it. > Now, organisations not created by the devil but lets say by God would > not create such a mess. > One of the most lucrative businesses just about everywhere is > consulting. Huge consulting firms work with/for/ect. huge businesses, > governments, NGOs. Millions of folks work in that field helping them to > become better, faster, etc. in the business they are involved in. > > Now, is ost something that consulting firms are into? > > There are some forms of "systems" such as neighborhoods, circles of > friends, collegial counselling groups, OSonOS (local, regional, > worldwide), people playing soccer with a tin can on a vacant lot, > families, demonstrations (HongKong, Fridays for Future...), Stammtische... > I smile in such settings, happy myself, grow myself... in such > "settings" and also frustrate myself now and then. Especially when > "control" enters the stage. > And at some point many such "systems" or "settings" ossify when they > take on the form of "organisations". In other words, the devil takes over. > Some of us smell that when it approaches and say "no". And move on or > drop out or fight or... > > Ok, this is stuff that comes up when I look at my "assumption" regarding > "organisation". > > I would like to hear more about your "assumptions" that come up when > "organisation" enters your mind. > > Greetings from Berlin > mmp > > > > Am 20.08.2019 um 00:04 schrieb R Chaffe via OSList: > > Chris, > > I look forward to Mark’s reply to your question. It seems to me that that > > the question mixes up the who and the what. Mark uses a few examples > > including a mechanic, the first question I have is what experience the > > trade person has my second is an example of their work. OST is at one > > level about the “how” the job is done and I think that is one level the > > question comes from. Being able to Open Space and engage effectively with > > the sponsor and the community of concern is an other level again. > > > > There is a level of trust between the sponsor and the facilitator that the > > result the sponsor wants will be delivered. The sponsor might ask how did > > you do that? I suggest that they are more interested on what you as > > facilitator delivered based on the contract. > > > > In many ways focusing on the how is counter productive the “what” is the > > thing that pays the bills and builds reputations. > > > > If my thinking is correct the struggle is to define a professional > > facilitator who can deliver is the issue not what tools they use when it > > comes to a contract. > > > > Regards > > Rob > > > >> On 20 Aug 2019, at 2:31 am, Chris Corrigan via OSList > >> <oslist@lists.openspacetech.org> wrote: > >> > >> Whenever I want to know if my work of Hosting an Open Space Technology > >> meeting was useful, I give the participants a form that sinplay says > >> “complete the following sentence. As a result of this meeting...” > >> > >> The only people who should be judging the efficacy of an OST meeting are > >> the people who called it in the first place to get their work done. In my > >> experience, they are happy if the meeting has helped them. > >> > >> My work is always directed towards client needs. Some times we do Open > >> Space. Sometimes we do it in a way that would drive a “by the book” person > >> crazy. But it’s about the clients. I doubt there is a way my process could > >> be formalized in a way that works better for my clients than sitting down > >> and listening to their needs. > >> > >> There is already a network of Open Space Institutes who steward this > >> practice. There is an international association of facilitators who can > >> join if you want certification. > >> > >> I find myself constantly wanting to defend this radical openness. Mark, > >> what is behind your string desire for something more formal than what we > >> already have? > >> > >> Chris. > >> > >> > >> _____________ > >> CHRIS CORRIGAN > >> www.chriscorrigan.com > >> > >>> On Aug 19, 2019, at 8:29 AM, Mark Carmel via OSList > >>> <oslist@lists.openspacetech.org> wrote: > >>> > >>> 1st of all thank you for everyone who gave me feedback on my big idea for > >>> certification. It was sincerely appreciated. However I can see it was > >>> something that did not Resonate well. > >>> > >>> Open space technology has clearly set the standard for the facilitation > >>> of peace and human understanding. It is such a powerful and simple tool > >>> but highly complex. As Harrison says.. chaos plows the fields of the > >>> mind so that new ideas can grow... I think there is ample chaos for us to > >>> tackle right now. > >>> > >>> I think it is highly important for the leadership of our open space world > >>> to make a decision now while we still have Harrison among us as a living > >>> spirit. Because we have already set the standards why not cement the > >>> standards and turn it into an everlasting association that could be > >>> organized to deliver training, etc. To advance the mission of human peace > >>> and understanding in a more organized way? > >>> > >>> If you want to be a beautician or a mechanic or a rocket scientist or a > >>> city manager there are associations for that . > >>> > >>> Why not an association for open space technology practitioners to define > >>> the standards, the ethics, code of conduct, the way that Harrison has > >>> already articulated them, but to formalize them and help us get organized > >>> and stay organized until we get the job done? > >>> > >>> Respectfully submitted, > >>> Mark Carmel > >>> > >>> > >>> _______________________________________________ > >>> OSList mailing list > >>> To post send emails to OSList@lists.openspacetech.org > >>> To unsubscribe send an email to oslist-le...@lists.openspacetech.org > >>> To subscribe or manage your subscription click below: > >>> http://lists.openspacetech.org/listinfo.cgi/oslist-openspacetech.org > >>> Past archives can be viewed here: > >>> http://www.mail-archive.com/oslist@lists.openspacetech.org > >> _______________________________________________ > >> OSList mailing list > >> To post send emails to OSList@lists.openspacetech.org > >> To unsubscribe send an email to oslist-le...@lists.openspacetech.org > >> To subscribe or manage your subscription click below: > >> http://lists.openspacetech.org/listinfo.cgi/oslist-openspacetech.org > >> Past archives can be viewed here: > >> http://www.mail-archive.com/oslist@lists.openspacetech.org > > _______________________________________________ > > OSList mailing list > > To post send emails to OSList@lists.openspacetech.org > > To unsubscribe send an email to oslist-le...@lists.openspacetech.org > > To subscribe or manage your subscription click below: > > http://lists.openspacetech.org/listinfo.cgi/oslist-openspacetech.org > > Past archives can be viewed here: > > http://www.mail-archive.com/oslist@lists.openspacetech.org > > > > -- > Michael M Pannwitz > Draisweg 1, 12209 Berlin, Germany > ++49 - 30-772 8000 > mmpannw...@gmail.com > > > Check out the Open Space World Map presently showing 487 resident Open > Space Workers in 76 countries working in a total of 142 countries worldwide > www.openspaceworldmap.org > > At my publisher you find books and task cards on open space, most in > German, some in English, some as ebooks, some multilingual > https://www.westkreuz-verlag.de/de/Kommunikation > _______________________________________________ > OSList mailing list > To post send emails to OSList@lists.openspacetech.org > To unsubscribe send an email to oslist-le...@lists.openspacetech.org > To subscribe or manage your subscription click below: > http://lists.openspacetech.org/listinfo.cgi/oslist-openspacetech.org > Past archives can be viewed here: > http://www.mail-archive.com/oslist@lists.openspacetech.org > > > -- > Barry Owen > Inviter - Facilitator/Practicer of Open Space Technology > Opening and Holding safe space for people and organizations to self-organize > around important issues and opportunities. > Invite - Listen - Love > > 615-568-2123 > BarryOwen.us > > 4004 Hillsboro Pike B234 > Nashville, TN 37215 > _______________________________________________ > OSList mailing list > To post send emails to OSList@lists.openspacetech.org > To unsubscribe send an email to oslist-le...@lists.openspacetech.org > To subscribe or manage your subscription click below: > http://lists.openspacetech.org/listinfo.cgi/oslist-openspacetech.org > Past archives can be viewed here: > http://www.mail-archive.com/oslist@lists.openspacetech.org > _______________________________________________ > OSList mailing list > To post send emails to OSList@lists.openspacetech.org > To unsubscribe send an email to oslist-le...@lists.openspacetech.org > To subscribe or manage your subscription click below: > http://lists.openspacetech.org/listinfo.cgi/oslist-openspacetech.org > Past archives can be viewed here: > http://www.mail-archive.com/oslist@lists.openspacetech.org > _______________________________________________ > OSList mailing list > To post send emails to OSList@lists.openspacetech.org > To unsubscribe send an email to oslist-le...@lists.openspacetech.org > To subscribe or manage your subscription click below: > http://lists.openspacetech.org/listinfo.cgi/oslist-openspacetech.org > Past archives can be viewed here: > http://www.mail-archive.com/oslist@lists.openspacetech.org
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