Hi Jake, Building on the previous, you don’t say how many people and how much time you have.
One simple and fruitful method I regularly apply at the European Union institutions, which requires minimal facilitation (unlike 25/10), is to run a completely open OS process with structured harvesting sheets on flipchart, including a voting column. Questions could include who was there, topic, objective, proposal, solutions, obstacles, resources needed, who needs to be involved, benefits, elegant next steps and your elevator pitch. After the OS, you hang all posters in the lunch or coffee area and organize a gallery walk. Each participant gets three sticky dots which they can place/distribute on the posters which they consider contain the objective with most impact. Advantage is you allow the crowd to gain insight and detail on numerous proposals plus you get a ranking. Depending on how much control your client wants to exercise, which should be made completely clear in the framing, they can take the top three or more or less. Whatever is selected is then implemented with buy-in from the group. Works a treat. Ian Brussels Sent from my iPad > On 5 Feb 2020, at 22:36, oslist-requ...@lists.openspacetech.org wrote: > > Send OSList mailing list submissions to > oslist@lists.openspacetech.org > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > http://lists.openspacetech.org/listinfo.cgi/oslist-openspacetech.org > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > oslist-requ...@lists.openspacetech.org > > You can reach the person managing the list at > oslist-ow...@lists.openspacetech.org > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of OSList digest..." > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. From Open Space to objectives and key results (OKRs)? > (Jake Yeager) > 2. Re: From Open Space to objectives and key results (OKRs)? > (Rolf F. Katzenberger) > 3. Re: From Open Space to objectives and key results (OKRs)? > (R Chaffe) > 4. Re: From Open Space to objectives and key results (OKRs)? > (Michael Herman) > 5. Re: From Open Space to objectives and key results (OKRs)? > (Chris Corrigan) > 6. Re: From Open Space to objectives and key results (OKRs)? > (Michael Herman) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Tue, 4 Feb 2020 18:56:52 -0500 > From: Jake Yeager <jacob.yea...@gmail.com> > To: World wide Open Space Technology email list > <oslist@lists.openspacetech.org> > Subject: [OSList] From Open Space to objectives and key results > (OKRs)? > Message-ID: > <CAESAiLTHwE+JF4-8xjuRnenp3Di0AtKo-Sgib=quxkr1ryg...@mail.gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" > > Hi folks, > > Anyone have experience using Open Space to develop OKRs with a group? > > I am facilitating an Open Space event in late February. I plan to use the > 25/10 Crowdsourcing method to prioritize draft objectives (O's) and then > 1-2-4-All to develop the key results (KR's) for each objective. > > The sponsor wants a maximum of 3 objectives. It might get a little hairy if > the clear cutoff for the 25/10 Crowdsourcing is greater than 3. Guess I > could use voting to narrow it down. Also, I am exploring if consent > decision-making could be useful. The sponsor might need to make a final > call on the top 3 if the group is split. > > Thanks and much love, > Jake > ________________ > > When the mind is quiet, the sun of your heart will shine once again, and > you will be free of problems. > - Robert Adams <http://www.robert-adams.info/> > -------------- next part -------------- > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > URL: > <http://lists.openspacetech.org/pipermail/oslist-openspacetech.org/attachments/20200204/ab95ab1e/attachment-0001.html> > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 2 > Date: Wed, 5 Feb 2020 11:16:08 +0100 > From: "Rolf F. Katzenberger" <rolf.katzenber...@gmx.net> > To: jacob.yea...@gmail.com, oslist@lists.openspacetech.org > Subject: Re: [OSList] From Open Space to objectives and key results > (OKRs)? > Message-ID: <6e9550af-a25f-1a15-0b56-d68ca6220...@gmx.net> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" > > Hi Jake: > > Given the amount of control desired by the sponsor, and your playing > with Liberating Structures , are you sure that Open Space is the most > appropriate format for the desired outcome? I might be wrong: it looks > like a regular workshop, designed around a suitable LS string, might > work better here. > > An Open Space does not impose that amount of control on the > participants, neither with respect to sessions, nor with handling > outcomes in the way you have described. Trying to add this type of > control might cause a bit of dissatisfaction with people who know what > an Open Space really is, IMHO. > > Greetings, > Rolf > > > -- > ?If it works, it's right.? | ?Richtig ist, was funktioniert.? > https://www.pragmatic-teams.com | https://www.pragmatic-teams.de > https://fromthebackoftheroom.training | > https://fromthebackoftheroom.training/de > > Jake Yeager via OSList schrieb am 05.02.20 um 00:56: >> Hi folks, >> >> Anyone have experience using Open Space to develop OKRs with a group? >> >> I am facilitating an Open Space event in late February. I plan to use >> the 25/10 Crowdsourcing method to prioritize draft objectives (O's) >> and then 1-2-4-All to develop the key results (KR's) for each objective.? >> >> The sponsor wants a maximum of 3 objectives. It might get a little >> hairy if the clear cutoff for the 25/10 Crowdsourcing is greater than >> 3. Guess I could use voting to narrow it down. Also, I am exploring if >> consent decision-making could be useful. The sponsor might need to >> make a final call on the top 3 if the group is split. >> >> Thanks and much love, >> Jake >> ________________ >> >> When the mind is quiet, the sun of your heart will shine once again, >> and you will be free of problems. >> ?- Robert Adams <http://www.robert-adams.info/> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> OSList mailing list >> To post send emails to OSList@lists.openspacetech.org >> To unsubscribe send an email to oslist-le...@lists.openspacetech.org >> To subscribe or manage your subscription click below: >> http://lists.openspacetech.org/listinfo.cgi/oslist-openspacetech.org >> Past archives can be viewed here: >> http://www.mail-archive.com/oslist@lists.openspacetech.org > -------------- next part -------------- > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > URL: > <http://lists.openspacetech.org/pipermail/oslist-openspacetech.org/attachments/20200205/fb353bb3/attachment-0001.html> > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 3 > Date: Thu, 6 Feb 2020 02:24:07 +1100 > From: R Chaffe <rcha...@gmail.com> > To: World wide Open Space Technology email list > <oslist@lists.openspacetech.org> > Subject: Re: [OSList] From Open Space to objectives and key results > (OKRs)? > Message-ID: <b3d711cd-aed4-4b89-9892-6955d95ac...@gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" > > The sponsor must be quite clear as to the level of delegation they are > willing to give to the participants. Then as Rolf says, you must choose if > Open Space technology is the correct process. You may operate out of an Open > Space mind set! > > Under promise and over deliver. Never try to contradict what the sponsor > requires, this well men you advise them that you are not the best person for > the task required. Not an easy call to make when you think you need the work. > In the longer term you are so much stronger and you will attract the best > clients, this is where the rubber meets the road. > > Regards > Rob > >> On 5 Feb 2020, at 9:26 pm, Rolf F. Katzenberger via OSList >> <oslist@lists.openspacetech.org> wrote: >> >> ? >> Hi Jake: >> >> Given the amount of control desired by the sponsor, and your playing with >> Liberating Structures , are you sure that Open Space is the most appropriate >> format for the desired outcome? I might be wrong: it looks like a regular >> workshop, designed around a suitable LS string, might work better here. >> >> An Open Space does not impose that amount of control on the participants, >> neither with respect to sessions, nor with handling outcomes in the way you >> have described. Trying to add this type of control might cause a bit of >> dissatisfaction with people who know what an Open Space really is, IMHO. >> >> Greetings, >> Rolf >> >> >> >> -- >> ?If it works, it's right.? | ?Richtig ist, was funktioniert.? >> https://www.pragmatic-teams.com | https://www.pragmatic-teams.de >> https://fromthebackoftheroom.training | >> https://fromthebackoftheroom.training/de >> Jake Yeager via OSList schrieb am 05.02.20 um 00:56: >>> Hi folks, >>> >>> Anyone have experience using Open Space to develop OKRs with a group? >>> >>> I am facilitating an Open Space event in late February. I plan to use the >>> 25/10 Crowdsourcing method to prioritize draft objectives (O's) and then >>> 1-2-4-All to develop the key results (KR's) for each objective. >>> >>> The sponsor wants a maximum of 3 objectives. It might get a little hairy if >>> the clear cutoff for the 25/10 Crowdsourcing is greater than 3. Guess I >>> could use voting to narrow it down. Also, I am exploring if consent >>> decision-making could be useful. The sponsor might need to make a final >>> call on the top 3 if the group is split. >>> >>> Thanks and much love, >>> Jake >>> ________________ >>> >>> When the mind is quiet, the sun of your heart will shine once again, and >>> you will be free of problems. >>> - Robert Adams >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> OSList mailing list >>> To post send emails to OSList@lists.openspacetech.org >>> To unsubscribe send an email to oslist-le...@lists.openspacetech.org >>> To subscribe or manage your subscription click below: >>> http://lists.openspacetech.org/listinfo.cgi/oslist-openspacetech.org >>> Past archives can be viewed here: >>> http://www.mail-archive.com/oslist@lists.openspacetech.org >> _______________________________________________ >> OSList mailing list >> To post send emails to OSList@lists.openspacetech.org >> To unsubscribe send an email to oslist-le...@lists.openspacetech.org >> To subscribe or manage your subscription click below: >> http://lists.openspacetech.org/listinfo.cgi/oslist-openspacetech.org >> Past archives can be viewed here: >> http://www.mail-archive.com/oslist@lists.openspacetech.org > -------------- next part -------------- > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > URL: > <http://lists.openspacetech.org/pipermail/oslist-openspacetech.org/attachments/20200206/010cbf99/attachment-0001.html> > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 4 > Date: Wed, 5 Feb 2020 10:36:43 -0700 > From: Michael Herman <mich...@michaelherman.com> > To: World wide Open Space Technology email list > <oslist@lists.openspacetech.org> > Subject: Re: [OSList] From Open Space to objectives and key results > (OKRs)? > Message-ID: > <CAD8j=qgpnc4bcwo013do0yvtshvbs5byt91rgk-eiypojux...@mail.gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" > > yes to what's already been said. and... it sounds like the OS part is > already happening, and you're asking about how to get from there to the > sponsor's three objectives. if that's the question, i'd suggest it's > simply two open spaces (perhaps loosely defined). > > the first OS runs as usual and finishes with all the notes on the wall. > you haven't said anything about how many people are expected to gather and > how long. the how long will imply something about the quality of the > notes, but at a minimum it seems safe to assume that you'll have written > topics posted, even if the OS is just a few hours. > > the second "OS" simply invites everyone to look at the wall and work > together to organize everything into three streams of work. in a small > group, with good notes, this might be as simple as the group going straight > to the existing wall to organize. but even then, you probably want to be > able to add practical detail, immediate next steps, to the wall. so with > any size group you might simply "re-open the space for action." invite the > whole group to create the agenda for the next 3 months or year or whatever, > identifying immediate next steps and posting them to a different wall. > have them keep reviewing the original wall and notes until all the most > important next steps are identified. challenge them to make sense of them > as they post the steps. > > it might be three or two or five or whatever streams. if the leader is > adamant about three, some finessing might be required, but the shifting > might also happen within that sponsor, who won't want to blow up a > coherence created by so many, and understood my him/herself and those > many. so it might turn out that 5 really clear objectives, well detailed, > are actually just fine. or if the charge is to create exactly three, the > group will likely work to create that. either way, it will work. > > bonus points for scheduling places and times the first conversations can > happen on most immediate next steps. > > m > > > > > > -- > > Michael Herman > Michael Herman Associates > 312-280-7838 (mobile) > > MichaelHerman.com > OpenSpaceWorld.org > > > > > On Wed, Feb 5, 2020 at 8:24 AM R Chaffe via OSList < > oslist@lists.openspacetech.org> wrote: > >> The sponsor must be quite clear as to the level of delegation they are >> willing to give to the participants. Then as Rolf says, you must choose if >> Open Space technology is the correct process. You may operate out of an >> Open Space mind set! >> >> Under promise and over deliver. Never try to contradict what the sponsor >> requires, this well men you advise them that you are not the best person >> for the task required. Not an easy call to make when you think you need the >> work. In the longer term you are so much stronger and you will attract the >> best clients, this is where the rubber meets the road. >> >> Regards >> Rob >> >> On 5 Feb 2020, at 9:26 pm, Rolf F. Katzenberger via OSList < >> oslist@lists.openspacetech.org> wrote: >> >> ? >> >> Hi Jake: >> >> Given the amount of control desired by the sponsor, and your playing with >> Liberating Structures , are you sure that Open Space is the most >> appropriate format for the desired outcome? I might be wrong: it looks like >> a regular workshop, designed around a suitable LS string, might work better >> here. >> >> An Open Space does not impose that amount of control on the participants, >> neither with respect to sessions, nor with handling outcomes in the way you >> have described. Trying to add this type of control might cause a bit of >> dissatisfaction with people who know what an Open Space really is, IMHO. >> >> Greetings, >> Rolf >> >> >> -- >> ?If it works, it's right.? | ?Richtig ist, was >> funktioniert.?https://www.pragmatic-teams.com | >> https://www.pragmatic-teams.dehttps://fromthebackoftheroom.training | >> https://fromthebackoftheroom.training/de >> >> Jake Yeager via OSList schrieb am 05.02.20 um 00:56: >> >> Hi folks, >> >> Anyone have experience using Open Space to develop OKRs with a group? >> >> I am facilitating an Open Space event in late February. I plan to use the >> 25/10 Crowdsourcing method to prioritize draft objectives (O's) and then >> 1-2-4-All to develop the key results (KR's) for each objective. >> >> The sponsor wants a maximum of 3 objectives. It might get a little hairy >> if the clear cutoff for the 25/10 Crowdsourcing is greater than 3. Guess I >> could use voting to narrow it down. Also, I am exploring if consent >> decision-making could be useful. The sponsor might need to make a final >> call on the top 3 if the group is split. >> >> Thanks and much love, >> Jake >> ________________ >> >> When the mind is quiet, the sun of your heart will shine once again, and >> you will be free of problems. >> - Robert Adams <http://www.robert-adams.info/> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> OSList mailing list >> To post send emails to OSList@lists.openspacetech.org >> To unsubscribe send an email to oslist-le...@lists.openspacetech.org >> To subscribe or manage your subscription click >> below:http://lists.openspacetech.org/listinfo.cgi/oslist-openspacetech.org >> Past archives can be viewed here: >> http://www.mail-archive.com/oslist@lists.openspacetech.org >> >> _______________________________________________ >> OSList mailing list >> To post send emails to OSList@lists.openspacetech.org >> To unsubscribe send an email to oslist-le...@lists.openspacetech.org >> To subscribe or manage your subscription click below: >> http://lists.openspacetech.org/listinfo.cgi/oslist-openspacetech.org >> Past archives can be viewed here: >> http://www.mail-archive.com/oslist@lists.openspacetech.org >> >> _______________________________________________ >> OSList mailing list >> To post send emails to OSList@lists.openspacetech.org >> To unsubscribe send an email to oslist-le...@lists.openspacetech.org >> To subscribe or manage your subscription click below: >> http://lists.openspacetech.org/listinfo.cgi/oslist-openspacetech.org >> Past archives can be viewed here: >> http://www.mail-archive.com/oslist@lists.openspacetech.org > -------------- next part -------------- > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > URL: > <http://lists.openspacetech.org/pipermail/oslist-openspacetech.org/attachments/20200205/efd64398/attachment-0001.html> > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 5 > Date: Wed, 5 Feb 2020 15:28:29 -0500 > From: Chris Corrigan <chris.corri...@gmail.com> > To: World wide Open Space Technology email list > <oslist@lists.openspacetech.org> > Subject: Re: [OSList] From Open Space to objectives and key results > (OKRs)? > Message-ID: <725385be-0a3f-48b7-bcbf-4b7db12bf...@gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" > > Building on this: > > In the past when a sponsor has been clear about content areas but hasn?t > specified what can be discussed within them we did the following: > > 1. Make sure you have lots of people there, because diversity of experience > and ideas is helpful. > > 2. Have the sponsor outline the specific areas they need help with ?These > three pillars of our plan are up for discussion?? but also be sure that the > sponsor indicates that any and all conversations are welcome on the day. > > 3. When introducing the process, divide the news wall into specific areas and > have one area for ?Other.? As people complete their session reports, > instruct them to post the results in one of the specific subject areas if > they want their ideas considered. Use the ?Other? category for interesting > outlier conversation reports. Very important here that the convener of the > topic choose which category to post in. > > 4. Make some time to then have the group break out into groups focusing on > the specific areas and distill some recommendations or insights, or whatever > is useful to the sponsor. If you have a large group, then perhaps invite the > conveners of sessions to gather in subject-specific teams to has through the > proceedings from the specific areas.? > > That has worked well for me in the past where the intention has been > constrained, but the sponsor wants to allow a larger space to be opened. > > Chris > >> On Feb 5, 2020, at 12:36 PM, Michael Herman via OSList >> <oslist@lists.openspacetech.org> wrote: >> >> yes to what's already been said. and... it sounds like the OS part is >> already happening, and you're asking about how to get from there to the >> sponsor's three objectives. if that's the question, i'd suggest it's simply >> two open spaces (perhaps loosely defined). >> >> the first OS runs as usual and finishes with all the notes on the wall. you >> haven't said anything about how many people are expected to gather and how >> long. the how long will imply something about the quality of the notes, but >> at a minimum it seems safe to assume that you'll have written topics posted, >> even if the OS is just a few hours. >> >> the second "OS" simply invites everyone to look at the wall and work >> together to organize everything into three streams of work. in a small >> group, with good notes, this might be as simple as the group going straight >> to the existing wall to organize. but even then, you probably want to be >> able to add practical detail, immediate next steps, to the wall. so with >> any size group you might simply "re-open the space for action." invite the >> whole group to create the agenda for the next 3 months or year or whatever, >> identifying immediate next steps and posting them to a different wall. have >> them keep reviewing the original wall and notes until all the most important >> next steps are identified. challenge them to make sense of them as they >> post the steps. >> >> it might be three or two or five or whatever streams. if the leader is >> adamant about three, some finessing might be required, but the shifting >> might also happen within that sponsor, who won't want to blow up a coherence >> created by so many, and understood my him/herself and those many. so it >> might turn out that 5 really clear objectives, well detailed, are actually >> just fine. or if the charge is to create exactly three, the group will >> likely work to create that. either way, it will work. >> >> bonus points for scheduling places and times the first conversations can >> happen on most immediate next steps. >> >> m >> >> >> >> >> >> -- >> >> Michael Herman >> Michael Herman Associates >> 312-280-7838 (mobile) >> >> MichaelHerman.com <http://michaelherman.com/> >> OpenSpaceWorld.org <http://openspaceworld.org/> >> >> >> >> >> On Wed, Feb 5, 2020 at 8:24 AM R Chaffe via OSList >> <oslist@lists.openspacetech.org <mailto:oslist@lists.openspacetech.org>> >> wrote: >> The sponsor must be quite clear as to the level of delegation they are >> willing to give to the participants. Then as Rolf says, you must choose if >> Open Space technology is the correct process. You may operate out of an >> Open Space mind set! >> >> Under promise and over deliver. Never try to contradict what the sponsor >> requires, this well men you advise them that you are not the best person for >> the task required. Not an easy call to make when you think you need the >> work. In the longer term you are so much stronger and you will attract the >> best clients, this is where the rubber meets the road. >> >> Regards >> Rob >> >>>> On 5 Feb 2020, at 9:26 pm, Rolf F. Katzenberger via OSList >>>> <oslist@lists.openspacetech.org <mailto:oslist@lists.openspacetech.org>> >>>> wrote: >>> >>> ? >>> Hi Jake: >>> >>> Given the amount of control desired by the sponsor, and your playing with >>> Liberating Structures , are you sure that Open Space is the most >>> appropriate format for the desired outcome? I might be wrong: it looks like >>> a regular workshop, designed around a suitable LS string, might work better >>> here. >>> >>> An Open Space does not impose that amount of control on the participants, >>> neither with respect to sessions, nor with handling outcomes in the way you >>> have described. Trying to add this type of control might cause a bit of >>> dissatisfaction with people who know what an Open Space really is, IMHO. >>> >>> Greetings, >>> Rolf >>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> ?If it works, it's right.? | ?Richtig ist, was funktioniert.? >>> https://www.pragmatic-teams.com <https://www.pragmatic-teams.com/> | >>> https://www.pragmatic-teams.de <https://www.pragmatic-teams.de/> >>> https://fromthebackoftheroom.training >>> <https://fromthebackoftheroom.training/> | >>> https://fromthebackoftheroom.training/de >>> <https://fromthebackoftheroom.training/de> >>> Jake Yeager via OSList schrieb am 05.02.20 um 00:56: >>>> Hi folks, >>>> >>>> Anyone have experience using Open Space to develop OKRs with a group? >>>> >>>> I am facilitating an Open Space event in late February. I plan to use the >>>> 25/10 Crowdsourcing method to prioritize draft objectives (O's) and then >>>> 1-2-4-All to develop the key results (KR's) for each objective. >>>> >>>> The sponsor wants a maximum of 3 objectives. It might get a little hairy >>>> if the clear cutoff for the 25/10 Crowdsourcing is greater than 3. Guess I >>>> could use voting to narrow it down. Also, I am exploring if consent >>>> decision-making could be useful. The sponsor might need to make a final >>>> call on the top 3 if the group is split. >>>> >>>> Thanks and much love, >>>> Jake >>>> ________________ >>>> >>>> When the mind is quiet, the sun of your heart will shine once again, and >>>> you will be free of problems. >>>> - Robert Adams <http://www.robert-adams.info/> >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> OSList mailing list >>>> To post send emails to OSList@lists.openspacetech.org >>>> <mailto:OSList@lists.openspacetech.org> >>>> To unsubscribe send an email to oslist-le...@lists.openspacetech.org >>>> <mailto:oslist-le...@lists.openspacetech.org> >>>> To subscribe or manage your subscription click below: >>>> http://lists.openspacetech.org/listinfo.cgi/oslist-openspacetech.org >>>> <http://lists.openspacetech.org/listinfo.cgi/oslist-openspacetech.org> >>>> Past archives can be viewed here: >>>> http://www.mail-archive.com/oslist@lists.openspacetech.org >>>> <http://www.mail-archive.com/oslist@lists.openspacetech.org>_______________________________________________ >>> OSList mailing list >>> To post send emails to OSList@lists.openspacetech.org >>> <mailto:OSList@lists.openspacetech.org> >>> To unsubscribe send an email to oslist-le...@lists.openspacetech.org >>> <mailto:oslist-le...@lists.openspacetech.org> >>> To subscribe or manage your subscription click below: >>> http://lists.openspacetech.org/listinfo.cgi/oslist-openspacetech.org >>> <http://lists.openspacetech.org/listinfo.cgi/oslist-openspacetech.org> >>> Past archives can be viewed here: >>> http://www.mail-archive.com/oslist@lists.openspacetech.org >>> <http://www.mail-archive.com/oslist@lists.openspacetech.org>_______________________________________________ >> OSList mailing list >> To post send emails to OSList@lists.openspacetech.org >> <mailto:OSList@lists.openspacetech.org> >> To unsubscribe send an email to oslist-le...@lists.openspacetech.org >> <mailto:oslist-le...@lists.openspacetech.org> >> To subscribe or manage your subscription click below: >> http://lists.openspacetech.org/listinfo.cgi/oslist-openspacetech.org >> <http://lists.openspacetech.org/listinfo.cgi/oslist-openspacetech.org> >> Past archives can be viewed here: >> http://www.mail-archive.com/oslist@lists.openspacetech.org >> <http://www.mail-archive.com/oslist@lists.openspacetech.org>_______________________________________________ >> OSList mailing list >> To post send emails to OSList@lists.openspacetech.org >> To unsubscribe send an email to oslist-le...@lists.openspacetech.org >> To subscribe or manage your subscription click below: >> http://lists.openspacetech.org/listinfo.cgi/oslist-openspacetech.org >> Past archives can be viewed here: >> http://www.mail-archive.com/oslist@lists.openspacetech.org > > -------------- next part -------------- > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > URL: > <http://lists.openspacetech.org/pipermail/oslist-openspacetech.org/attachments/20200205/1015b484/attachment-0001.html> > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 6 > Date: Wed, 5 Feb 2020 13:33:10 -0700 > From: Michael Herman <mich...@michaelherman.com> > To: Chris Corrigan <chris.corri...@gmail.com> > Cc: World wide Open Space Technology email list > <oslist@lists.openspacetech.org> > Subject: Re: [OSList] From Open Space to objectives and key results > (OKRs)? > Message-ID: > <CAD8j=qf6wfryv1jexqrfbspdny8ub7f46kf3o8qlwb+n-vf...@mail.gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" > > Worth noting, too, that everything Chris is suggesting moves the group > forward and deeper into open space, supporting their continuing work in > that way. Finishing OS with designed/selected liberating structures, on > the other hand, seems to imply that they're not able to take the work > forward without somebody setting up the next little wickets for them to > jump through. > > > -- > > Michael Herman > Michael Herman Associates > 312-280-7838 (mobile) > > MichaelHerman.com > OpenSpaceWorld.org > > > > > On Wed, Feb 5, 2020 at 1:28 PM Chris Corrigan <chris.corri...@gmail.com> > wrote: > >> Building on this: >> >> In the past when a sponsor has been clear about content areas but hasn?t >> specified what can be discussed within them we did the following: >> >> 1. Make sure you have lots of people there, because diversity of >> experience and ideas is helpful. >> >> 2. Have the sponsor outline the specific areas they need help with ?These >> three pillars of our plan are up for discussion?? but also be sure that the >> sponsor indicates that any and all conversations are welcome on the day. >> >> 3. When introducing the process, divide the news wall into specific areas >> and have one area for ?Other.? As people complete their session reports, >> instruct them to post the results in one of the specific subject areas if >> they want their ideas considered. Use the ?Other? category for interesting >> outlier conversation reports. Very important here that the convener of the >> topic choose which category to post in. >> >> 4. Make some time to then have the group break out into groups focusing on >> the specific areas and distill some recommendations or insights, or >> whatever is useful to the sponsor. If you have a large group, then perhaps >> invite the conveners of sessions to gather in subject-specific teams to has >> through the proceedings from the specific areas.? >> >> That has worked well for me in the past where the intention has been >> constrained, but the sponsor wants to allow a larger space to be opened. >> >> Chris >> >> On Feb 5, 2020, at 12:36 PM, Michael Herman via OSList < >> oslist@lists.openspacetech.org> wrote: >> >> yes to what's already been said. and... it sounds like the OS part is >> already happening, and you're asking about how to get from there to the >> sponsor's three objectives. if that's the question, i'd suggest it's >> simply two open spaces (perhaps loosely defined). >> >> the first OS runs as usual and finishes with all the notes on the wall. >> you haven't said anything about how many people are expected to gather and >> how long. the how long will imply something about the quality of the >> notes, but at a minimum it seems safe to assume that you'll have written >> topics posted, even if the OS is just a few hours. >> >> the second "OS" simply invites everyone to look at the wall and work >> together to organize everything into three streams of work. in a small >> group, with good notes, this might be as simple as the group going straight >> to the existing wall to organize. but even then, you probably want to be >> able to add practical detail, immediate next steps, to the wall. so with >> any size group you might simply "re-open the space for action." invite the >> whole group to create the agenda for the next 3 months or year or whatever, >> identifying immediate next steps and posting them to a different wall. >> have them keep reviewing the original wall and notes until all the most >> important next steps are identified. challenge them to make sense of them >> as they post the steps. >> >> it might be three or two or five or whatever streams. if the leader is >> adamant about three, some finessing might be required, but the shifting >> might also happen within that sponsor, who won't want to blow up a >> coherence created by so many, and understood my him/herself and those >> many. so it might turn out that 5 really clear objectives, well detailed, >> are actually just fine. or if the charge is to create exactly three, the >> group will likely work to create that. either way, it will work. >> >> bonus points for scheduling places and times the first conversations can >> happen on most immediate next steps. >> >> m >> >> >> >> >> >> -- >> >> Michael Herman >> Michael Herman Associates >> 312-280-7838 (mobile) >> >> MichaelHerman.com <http://michaelherman.com/> >> OpenSpaceWorld.org <http://openspaceworld.org/> >> >> >> >> >> On Wed, Feb 5, 2020 at 8:24 AM R Chaffe via OSList < >> oslist@lists.openspacetech.org> wrote: >> >>> The sponsor must be quite clear as to the level of delegation they are >>> willing to give to the participants. Then as Rolf says, you must choose if >>> Open Space technology is the correct process. You may operate out of an >>> Open Space mind set! >>> >>> Under promise and over deliver. Never try to contradict what the sponsor >>> requires, this well men you advise them that you are not the best person >>> for the task required. Not an easy call to make when you think you need the >>> work. In the longer term you are so much stronger and you will attract the >>> best clients, this is where the rubber meets the road. >>> >>> Regards >>> Rob >>> >>> On 5 Feb 2020, at 9:26 pm, Rolf F. Katzenberger via OSList < >>> oslist@lists.openspacetech.org> wrote: >>> >>> ? >>> >>> Hi Jake: >>> >>> Given the amount of control desired by the sponsor, and your playing with >>> Liberating Structures , are you sure that Open Space is the most >>> appropriate format for the desired outcome? I might be wrong: it looks like >>> a regular workshop, designed around a suitable LS string, might work better >>> here. >>> >>> An Open Space does not impose that amount of control on the participants, >>> neither with respect to sessions, nor with handling outcomes in the way you >>> have described. Trying to add this type of control might cause a bit of >>> dissatisfaction with people who know what an Open Space really is, IMHO. >>> >>> Greetings, >>> Rolf >>> >>> >>> -- >>> ?If it works, it's right.? | ?Richtig ist, was >>> funktioniert.?https://www.pragmatic-teams.com | >>> https://www.pragmatic-teams.dehttps://fromthebackoftheroom.training | >>> https://fromthebackoftheroom.training/de >>> >>> Jake Yeager via OSList schrieb am 05.02.20 um 00:56: >>> >>> Hi folks, >>> >>> Anyone have experience using Open Space to develop OKRs with a group? >>> >>> I am facilitating an Open Space event in late February. I plan to use the >>> 25/10 Crowdsourcing method to prioritize draft objectives (O's) and then >>> 1-2-4-All to develop the key results (KR's) for each objective. >>> >>> The sponsor wants a maximum of 3 objectives. It might get a little hairy >>> if the clear cutoff for the 25/10 Crowdsourcing is greater than 3. Guess I >>> could use voting to narrow it down. Also, I am exploring if consent >>> decision-making could be useful. The sponsor might need to make a final >>> call on the top 3 if the group is split. >>> >>> Thanks and much love, >>> Jake >>> ________________ >>> >>> When the mind is quiet, the sun of your heart will shine once again, and >>> you will be free of problems. >>> - Robert Adams <http://www.robert-adams.info/> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> OSList mailing list >>> To post send emails to OSList@lists.openspacetech.org >>> To unsubscribe send an email to oslist-le...@lists.openspacetech.org >>> To subscribe or manage your subscription click >>> below:http://lists.openspacetech.org/listinfo.cgi/oslist-openspacetech.org >>> Past archives can be viewed here: >>> http://www.mail-archive.com/oslist@lists.openspacetech.org >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> OSList mailing list >>> To post send emails to OSList@lists.openspacetech.org >>> To unsubscribe send an email to oslist-le...@lists.openspacetech.org >>> To subscribe or manage your subscription click below: >>> http://lists.openspacetech.org/listinfo.cgi/oslist-openspacetech.org >>> Past archives can be viewed here: >>> http://www.mail-archive.com/oslist@lists.openspacetech.org >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> OSList mailing list >>> To post send emails to OSList@lists.openspacetech.org >>> To unsubscribe send an email to oslist-le...@lists.openspacetech.org >>> To subscribe or manage your subscription click below: >>> http://lists.openspacetech.org/listinfo.cgi/oslist-openspacetech.org >>> Past archives can be viewed here: >>> http://www.mail-archive.com/oslist@lists.openspacetech.org >> >> _______________________________________________ >> OSList mailing list >> To post send emails to OSList@lists.openspacetech.org >> To unsubscribe send an email to oslist-le...@lists.openspacetech.org >> To subscribe or manage your subscription click below: >> http://lists.openspacetech.org/listinfo.cgi/oslist-openspacetech.org >> Past archives can be viewed here: >> http://www.mail-archive.com/oslist@lists.openspacetech.org >> >> >> > -------------- next part -------------- > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > URL: > <http://lists.openspacetech.org/pipermail/oslist-openspacetech.org/attachments/20200205/f08f83c1/attachment-0001.html> > > ------------------------------ > > Subject: Digest Footer > > _______________________________________________ > OSList mailing list > To post send emails to OSList@lists.openspacetech.org > To unsubscribe send an email to oslist-le...@lists.openspacetech.org > To subscribe or manage your subscription click below: > http://lists.openspacetech.org/listinfo.cgi/oslist-openspacetech.org > Past archives can be viewed here: > http://www.mail-archive.com/oslist@lists.openspacetech.org > > ------------------------------ > > End of OSList Digest, Vol 106, Issue 6 > ************************************** _______________________________________________ OSList mailing list To post send emails to OSList@lists.openspacetech.org To unsubscribe send an email to oslist-le...@lists.openspacetech.org To subscribe or manage your subscription click below: http://lists.openspacetech.org/listinfo.cgi/oslist-openspacetech.org Past archives can be viewed here: http://www.mail-archive.com/oslist@lists.openspacetech.org
