It is ALL going according to plan right now. MC On Thu, Jan 14, 2021, 5:06 PM <oslist-requ...@lists.openspacetech.org> wrote:
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Re: Confused American (Chris Corrigan) > 12. Re: Confused American (Marc C. Trudeau) > 13. Re: Confused American (harrison owen) > 14. Re: Confused American (CHARLES COLPITTS) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Wed, 13 Jan 2021 14:48:57 -0800 > From: Jeff Aitken <r.jeff.ait...@gmail.com> > To: World wide Open Space Technology email list > <oslist@lists.openspacetech.org> > Subject: [OSList] Confused American > Message-ID: > <CANNDQeZ= > ufkeq0_dcmci4if-diadgklyvvpzc0ehf8vuuhm...@mail.gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" > > As a patriotic American I join millions who were confused when the > President did not step boldly into the opportunity in his Jan 6 public > speech to announce the arrest of Joe Biden and others for that satanic > pedophilic conspiracy ring. Everything had been perfectly orchestrated > leading up to that moment, it seemed. > > The gentleman who interviewed Harrison last year on his YouTube > channel, the old friend from DC days with an intelligence background > (who loved the idea of Open Space!) was also greatly optimistic (with > other interviewees on his channel) that this denouement would take > place on the optimal day. > > What went wrong? I remain confused. > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 2 > Date: Wed, 13 Jan 2021 23:21:51 -0500 > From: Patricia Haines <levelgreen2...@gmail.com> > To: World wide Open Space Technology email list > <oslist@lists.openspacetech.org> > Subject: Re: [OSList] Confused American > Message-ID: > <CAHoxJiMFy2jW_uVAiiqs6h9h+A_MV0BxZa+fO4= > o0utrsc1...@mail.gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" > > I thought Open Space was about democracy, giving voice to everyone? > > On Wed, Jan 13, 2021, 9:26 PM Jeff Aitken via OSList < > oslist@lists.openspacetech.org> wrote: > > > As a patriotic American I join millions who were confused when the > > President did not step boldly into the opportunity in his Jan 6 public > > speech to announce the arrest of Joe Biden and others for that satanic > > pedophilic conspiracy ring. Everything had been perfectly orchestrated > > leading up to that moment, it seemed. > > > > The gentleman who interviewed Harrison last year on his YouTube > > channel, the old friend from DC days with an intelligence background > > (who loved the idea of Open Space!) was also greatly optimistic (with > > other interviewees on his channel) that this denouement would take > > place on the optimal day. > > > > What went wrong? I remain confused. > > _______________________________________________ > > OSList mailing list > > To post send emails to OSList@lists.openspacetech.org > > To unsubscribe send an email to oslist-le...@lists.openspacetech.org > > To subscribe or manage your subscription click below: > > http://lists.openspacetech.org/listinfo.cgi/oslist-openspacetech.org > > Past archives can be viewed here: > > http://www.mail-archive.com/oslist@lists.openspacetech.org > > > -------------- next part -------------- > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > URL: < > http://lists.openspacetech.org/pipermail/oslist-openspacetech.org/attachments/20210113/fe79124c/attachment-0001.html > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 3 > Date: Thu, 14 Jan 2021 09:07:53 +0100 > From: Lise Damkjaer <l...@learning4life.dk> > To: oslist@lists.openspacetech.org > Subject: Re: [OSList] Confused American > Message-ID: <c4c6d10b-fbfa-4164-aa69-0087888e2...@learning4life.dk> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed > > Hi Jeff > > I'm confused about your post. I really want to ignore it, because to me > it seems to be a joke or some conspiracy theory. > > But here on OSLIST, I think we want to listen and we want dialogue with > everyone with an open mind. So I will not ignore you. > > I admit that I don't understand how you could get that perspective and > how you can wish for a newly elected president to be arrested. To me it > seems to ruin democracy in your own country. Is it that you actually > don't want democracy? and how do you combine loving Open Space with not > wanting democracy? or Open Space-thinking with accusing people? > > Lise > > Copenhagen, Denmark > > > > On 13-01-2021 23:48, Jeff Aitken via OSList wrote: > > As a patriotic American I join millions who were confused when the > > President did not step boldly into the opportunity in his Jan 6 public > > speech to announce the arrest of Joe Biden and others for that satanic > > pedophilic conspiracy ring. Everything had been perfectly orchestrated > > leading up to that moment, it seemed. > > > > The gentleman who interviewed Harrison last year on his YouTube > > channel, the old friend from DC days with an intelligence background > > (who loved the idea of Open Space!) was also greatly optimistic (with > > other interviewees on his channel) that this denouement would take > > place on the optimal day. > > > > What went wrong? I remain confused. > > _______________________________________________ > > OSList mailing list > > To post send emails to OSList@lists.openspacetech.org > > To unsubscribe send an email to oslist-le...@lists.openspacetech.org > > To subscribe or manage your subscription click below: > > http://lists.openspacetech.org/listinfo.cgi/oslist-openspacetech.org > > Past archives can be viewed here: > http://www.mail-archive.com/oslist@lists.openspacetech.org > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 4 > Date: Thu, 14 Jan 2021 09:12:53 +0100 > From: Michael M Pannwitz <mmpannw...@gmail.com> > To: Patricia Haines via OSList <oslist@lists.openspacetech.org> > Subject: Re: [OSList] Confused American > Message-ID: <677ffca9-e468-abe0-35c8-ffbc2cb80...@gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed > > > Dear Patricia, > > everything is open space, even democratic systems and institution but > also a mafia organisation or autocratic systems. > The forces of selforganisation do their thing everywhere, completely > independent of the various criteria we have for classifying whats good, > bad or indifferent. > And Open Space Technology, the process we work with, is an approach that > expands time and space for the force of selforganisation to unfold. Its > the only group/organisation/system approach that has that as its core > activity. > But dont worry, even without OST, selforganisation thrives... sometimes > hardly noticeable. And if you find an organsation/system with not signs > of selforganisation you can be sure its dead for all practical purposes. > > Now, as an UScitizen looking at whats happening in the USA from my > distant viewpoint in Berlin, I see that the forces of selforganisation > are alive and kicking back home. > > Cheers and stay healthy > mmp > Am 14.01.2021 um 05:21 schrieb Patricia Haines via OSList: > > I thought Open Space was about democracy, giving voice to everyone? > > > > On Wed, Jan 13, 2021, 9:26 PM Jeff Aitken via OSList > > <oslist@lists.openspacetech.org <mailto:oslist@lists.openspacetech.org > >> > > wrote: > > > > As a patriotic American I join millions who were confused when the > > President did not step boldly into the opportunity in his Jan 6 > public > > speech to announce the arrest of Joe Biden and others for that > satanic > > pedophilic conspiracy ring. Everything had been perfectly > orchestrated > > leading up to that moment, it seemed. > > > > The gentleman who interviewed Harrison last year on his YouTube > > channel, the old friend from DC days with an intelligence background > > (who loved the idea of Open Space!) was also greatly optimistic > (with > > other interviewees on his channel) that this denouement would take > > place on the optimal day. > > > > What went wrong? I remain confused. > > _______________________________________________ > > OSList mailing list > > To post send emails to OSList@lists.openspacetech.org > > <mailto:OSList@lists.openspacetech.org> > > To unsubscribe send an email to > oslist-le...@lists.openspacetech.org > > <mailto:oslist-le...@lists.openspacetech.org> > > To subscribe or manage your subscription click below: > > > http://lists.openspacetech.org/listinfo.cgi/oslist-openspacetech.org > > > <http://lists.openspacetech.org/listinfo.cgi/oslist-openspacetech.org> > > Past archives can be viewed here: > > http://www.mail-archive.com/oslist@lists.openspacetech.org > > <http://www.mail-archive.com/oslist@lists.openspacetech.org> > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > OSList mailing list > > To post send emails to OSList@lists.openspacetech.org > > To unsubscribe send an email to oslist-le...@lists.openspacetech.org > > To subscribe or manage your subscription click below: > > http://lists.openspacetech.org/listinfo.cgi/oslist-openspacetech.org > > Past archives can be viewed here: > http://www.mail-archive.com/oslist@lists.openspacetech.org > > > > -- > Michael M Pannwitz > Draisweg 1, 12209 Berlin > ++49 - 30-772 8000 mmpannw...@gmail.com > > > In der Open Space World Map tummeln sich 159 Menschen, die in > Deutschland, ?sterreich und der Schweiz mit dem open space Verfahren > arbeiten. > Weltweit sind es 509 aus 77 L?ndern, die in 142 L?ndern os verbreiten. > Mal reinschauen: http://www.openspaceworldmap.org/ > > Bei Westkreuz gibts B?cher/e-B?cher, K?rtchens?tze und Sch?tze auf > Deutsch und Englisch zu und um open space herum, auch mehrsprachige. > https://www.westkreuz-verlag.de/de/Kommunikation > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 5 > Date: Thu, 14 Jan 2021 09:34:03 -0500 > From: harrison owen <hhowe...@gmail.com> > To: World wide Open Space Technology email list > <oslist@lists.openspacetech.org> > Subject: Re: [OSList] Confused American > Message-ID: <a1f8815e-944b-4226-9a8a-22ad2f531...@hxcore.ol> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > URL: < > http://lists.openspacetech.org/pipermail/oslist-openspacetech.org/attachments/20210114/1ab824eb/attachment-0001.html > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 6 > Date: Thu, 14 Jan 2021 09:46:55 -0500 > From: Patricia Haines <levelgreen2...@gmail.com> > To: World wide Open Space Technology email list > <oslist@lists.openspacetech.org> > Subject: Re: [OSList] Confused American > Message-ID: > <CAHoxJiNmL= > bud3--fogwtrgnbfwaxf-a2e1e1x5xa-wb8+2...@mail.gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" > > This is a really useful thread for me. I've wanted to find a way to > understand the range of political thinking, beyond the bubble of Ithaca, > NY. I'm glad to be reminded that "self-organization" does indeed invite all > voices into the space, where we listen with respect without having to > agree. Thank you all. Challenging times around this world. > > On Thu, Jan 14, 2021, 9:34 AM harrison owen via OSList < > oslist@lists.openspacetech.org> wrote: > > > This is totally weird? I?ve known Jeff for years and I simply can?t > > believe he would say something like that. Strange times. > > > > > > > > ho > > > > > > > > Sent from Mail <https://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=550986> for > > Windows 10 > > > > > > > > *From: *Jeff Aitken via OSList <oslist@lists.openspacetech.org> > > *Sent: *Wednesday, January 13, 2021 5:49 PM > > *To: *World wide Open Space Technology email list > > <oslist@lists.openspacetech.org> > > *Cc: *Jeff Aitken <r.jeff.ait...@gmail.com> > > *Subject: *[OSList] Confused American > > > > > > > > As a patriotic American I join millions who were confused when the > > > > President did not step boldly into the opportunity in his Jan 6 public > > > > speech to announce the arrest of Joe Biden and others for that satanic > > > > pedophilic conspiracy ring. Everything had been perfectly orchestrated > > > > leading up to that moment, it seemed. > > > > > > > > The gentleman who interviewed Harrison last year on his YouTube > > > > channel, the old friend from DC days with an intelligence background > > > > (who loved the idea of Open Space!) was also greatly optimistic (with > > > > other interviewees on his channel) that this denouement would take > > > > place on the optimal day. > > > > > > > > What went wrong? I remain confused. > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > OSList mailing list > > > > To post send emails to OSList@lists.openspacetech.org > > > > To unsubscribe send an email to oslist-le...@lists.openspacetech.org > > > > To subscribe or manage your subscription click below: > > > > http://lists.openspacetech.org/listinfo.cgi/oslist-openspacetech.org > > > > Past archives can be viewed here: > > http://www.mail-archive.com/oslist@lists.openspacetech.org > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > OSList mailing list > > To post send emails to OSList@lists.openspacetech.org > > To unsubscribe send an email to oslist-le...@lists.openspacetech.org > > To subscribe or manage your subscription click below: > > http://lists.openspacetech.org/listinfo.cgi/oslist-openspacetech.org > > Past archives can be viewed here: > > http://www.mail-archive.com/oslist@lists.openspacetech.org > -------------- next part -------------- > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > URL: < > http://lists.openspacetech.org/pipermail/oslist-openspacetech.org/attachments/20210114/cceb5710/attachment-0001.html > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 7 > Date: Thu, 14 Jan 2021 15:39:35 +0000 > From: paul levy <p...@cats3000.net> > To: World wide Open Space Technology email list > <oslist@lists.openspacetech.org> > Subject: Re: [OSList] Confused American > Message-ID: > < > caanjsbclot2ctqo9bi6xhousovctfm4t3nxrpvqrevz5gjs...@mail.gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" > > Perrhaps it is my English sense of humour. I read deep irony into Jeff's > post and then, via glorious. Wildesque satire, it reads rather differently > > >From the garden shed, a haven in lockdown, > > Paul > > On Thu, 14 Jan 2021, 14:34 harrison owen via OSList, < > oslist@lists.openspacetech.org> wrote: > > > This is totally weird? I?ve known Jeff for years and I simply can?t > > believe he would say something like that. Strange times. > > > > > > > > ho > > > > > > > > Sent from Mail <https://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=550986> for > > Windows 10 > > > > > > > > *From: *Jeff Aitken via OSList <oslist@lists.openspacetech.org> > > *Sent: *Wednesday, January 13, 2021 5:49 PM > > *To: *World wide Open Space Technology email list > > <oslist@lists.openspacetech.org> > > *Cc: *Jeff Aitken <r.jeff.ait...@gmail.com> > > *Subject: *[OSList] Confused American > > > > > > > > As a patriotic American I join millions who were confused when the > > > > President did not step boldly into the opportunity in his Jan 6 public > > > > speech to announce the arrest of Joe Biden and others for that satanic > > > > pedophilic conspiracy ring. Everything had been perfectly orchestrated > > > > leading up to that moment, it seemed. > > > > > > > > The gentleman who interviewed Harrison last year on his YouTube > > > > channel, the old friend from DC days with an intelligence background > > > > (who loved the idea of Open Space!) was also greatly optimistic (with > > > > other interviewees on his channel) that this denouement would take > > > > place on the optimal day. > > > > > > > > What went wrong? I remain confused. > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > OSList mailing list > > > > To post send emails to OSList@lists.openspacetech.org > > > > To unsubscribe send an email to oslist-le...@lists.openspacetech.org > > > > To subscribe or manage your subscription click below: > > > > http://lists.openspacetech.org/listinfo.cgi/oslist-openspacetech.org > > > > Past archives can be viewed here: > > http://www.mail-archive.com/oslist@lists.openspacetech.org > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > OSList mailing list > > To post send emails to OSList@lists.openspacetech.org > > To unsubscribe send an email to oslist-le...@lists.openspacetech.org > > To subscribe or manage your subscription click below: > > http://lists.openspacetech.org/listinfo.cgi/oslist-openspacetech.org > > Past archives can be viewed here: > > http://www.mail-archive.com/oslist@lists.openspacetech.org > -------------- next part -------------- > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > URL: < > http://lists.openspacetech.org/pipermail/oslist-openspacetech.org/attachments/20210114/1e5badca/attachment-0001.html > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 8 > Date: Thu, 14 Jan 2021 09:42:34 -0600 > From: Barry Owen <ba...@paretorealtyllc.com> > To: World wide Open Space Technology email list > <oslist@lists.openspacetech.org> > Subject: Re: [OSList] Confused American > Message-ID: > <CA+8ApBW3snC0Wvxo6GKUt4LVPfcvWSCT4_wQgeDkr_MWywh=_ > q...@mail.gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" > > Exactly Paul - I thought "Tongue in cheek" > > On Thu, Jan 14, 2021 at 9:39 AM paul levy via OSList < > oslist@lists.openspacetech.org> wrote: > > > Perrhaps it is my English sense of humour. I read deep irony into Jeff's > > post and then, via glorious. Wildesque satire, it reads rather > differently > > > > From the garden shed, a haven in lockdown, > > > > Paul > > > > On Thu, 14 Jan 2021, 14:34 harrison owen via OSList, < > > oslist@lists.openspacetech.org> wrote: > > > >> This is totally weird? I?ve known Jeff for years and I simply can?t > >> believe he would say something like that. Strange times. > >> > >> > >> > >> ho > >> > >> > >> > >> Sent from Mail <https://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=550986> for > >> Windows 10 > >> > >> > >> > >> *From: *Jeff Aitken via OSList <oslist@lists.openspacetech.org> > >> *Sent: *Wednesday, January 13, 2021 5:49 PM > >> *To: *World wide Open Space Technology email list > >> <oslist@lists.openspacetech.org> > >> *Cc: *Jeff Aitken <r.jeff.ait...@gmail.com> > >> *Subject: *[OSList] Confused American > >> > >> > >> > >> As a patriotic American I join millions who were confused when the > >> > >> President did not step boldly into the opportunity in his Jan 6 public > >> > >> speech to announce the arrest of Joe Biden and others for that satanic > >> > >> pedophilic conspiracy ring. Everything had been perfectly orchestrated > >> > >> leading up to that moment, it seemed. > >> > >> > >> > >> The gentleman who interviewed Harrison last year on his YouTube > >> > >> channel, the old friend from DC days with an intelligence background > >> > >> (who loved the idea of Open Space!) was also greatly optimistic (with > >> > >> other interviewees on his channel) that this denouement would take > >> > >> place on the optimal day. > >> > >> > >> > >> What went wrong? I remain confused. > >> > >> _______________________________________________ > >> > >> OSList mailing list > >> > >> To post send emails to OSList@lists.openspacetech.org > >> > >> To unsubscribe send an email to oslist-le...@lists.openspacetech.org > >> > >> To subscribe or manage your subscription click below: > >> > >> http://lists.openspacetech.org/listinfo.cgi/oslist-openspacetech.org > >> > >> Past archives can be viewed here: > >> http://www.mail-archive.com/oslist@lists.openspacetech.org > >> > >> > >> _______________________________________________ > >> OSList mailing list > >> To post send emails to OSList@lists.openspacetech.org > >> To unsubscribe send an email to oslist-le...@lists.openspacetech.org > >> To subscribe or manage your subscription click below: > >> http://lists.openspacetech.org/listinfo.cgi/oslist-openspacetech.org > >> Past archives can be viewed here: > >> http://www.mail-archive.com/oslist@lists.openspacetech.org > > > > _______________________________________________ > > OSList mailing list > > To post send emails to OSList@lists.openspacetech.org > > To unsubscribe send an email to oslist-le...@lists.openspacetech.org > > To subscribe or manage your subscription click below: > > http://lists.openspacetech.org/listinfo.cgi/oslist-openspacetech.org > > Past archives can be viewed here: > > http://www.mail-archive.com/oslist@lists.openspacetech.org > > > > -- > < > https://barryowen.us?promo=email_sig&utm_source=product&utm_medium=email_sig&utm_campaign=gmail_api&utm_content=thumb > > > Barry Owen > barryowen.us > < > https://barryowen.us?promo=email_sig&utm_source=product&utm_medium=email_sig&utm_campaign=gmail_api&utm_content=thumb > > > -------------- next part -------------- > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > URL: < > http://lists.openspacetech.org/pipermail/oslist-openspacetech.org/attachments/20210114/c3ed8aec/attachment-0001.html > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 9 > Date: Thu, 14 Jan 2021 15:58:16 -0000 > From: <f...@open2flow.co.uk> > To: "'World wide Open Space Technology email list'" > <oslist@lists.openspacetech.org> > Subject: Re: [OSList] Confused European > Message-ID: <010601d6ea8e$1235a710$36a0f530$@open2flow.co.uk> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" > > Mmm? I read Jeff?s comment differently, satirically, referring to > T-supporters? QAnon conspiracy theory. With the insurgence having > successfully gone as far as it did, why didn?t T go all the way, with a > complete coup? Everything was in place, the capitol besieged, so why didn?t > T pull the ultimate trigger? A close call! Confused - yes, there?s a lot > more that we haven?t heard yet. As a European, I?m also confused, but > relieved at the same time. > > Fran?ois > > > > > > From: OSList <oslist-boun...@lists.openspacetech.org> On Behalf Of > Patricia Haines via OSList > Sent: 14 January 2021 14:47 > To: World wide Open Space Technology email list < > oslist@lists.openspacetech.org> > Cc: Patricia Haines <levelgreen2...@gmail.com> > Subject: Re: [OSList] Confused American > > > > This is a really useful thread for me. I've wanted to find a way to > understand the range of political thinking, beyond the bubble of Ithaca, > NY. I'm glad to be reminded that "self-organization" does indeed invite all > voices into the space, where we listen with respect without having to > agree. Thank you all. Challenging times around this world. > > > > On Thu, Jan 14, 2021, 9:34 AM harrison owen via OSList < > oslist@lists.openspacetech.org <mailto:oslist@lists.openspacetech.org> > > wrote: > > This is totally weird? I?ve known Jeff for years and I simply can?t > believe he would say something like that. Strange times. > > > > ho > > > > Sent from Mail <https://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=550986> for > Windows 10 > > > > From: Jeff Aitken via OSList <mailto:oslist@lists.openspacetech.org> > Sent: Wednesday, January 13, 2021 5:49 PM > To: World wide Open Space Technology email list <mailto: > oslist@lists.openspacetech.org> > Cc: Jeff Aitken <mailto:r.jeff.ait...@gmail.com> > Subject: [OSList] Confused American > > > > As a patriotic American I join millions who were confused when the > > President did not step boldly into the opportunity in his Jan 6 public > > speech to announce the arrest of Joe Biden and others for that satanic > > pedophilic conspiracy ring. Everything had been perfectly orchestrated > > leading up to that moment, it seemed. > > > > The gentleman who interviewed Harrison last year on his YouTube > > channel, the old friend from DC days with an intelligence background > > (who loved the idea of Open Space!) was also greatly optimistic (with > > other interviewees on his channel) that this denouement would take > > place on the optimal day. > > > > What went wrong? I remain confused. > > _______________________________________________ > > OSList mailing list > > To post send emails to OSList@lists.openspacetech.org <mailto: > OSList@lists.openspacetech.org> > > To unsubscribe send an email to oslist-le...@lists.openspacetech.org > <mailto:oslist-le...@lists.openspacetech.org> > > To subscribe or manage your subscription click below: > > http://lists.openspacetech.org/listinfo.cgi/oslist-openspacetech.org > > Past archives can be viewed here: > http://www.mail-archive.com/oslist@lists.openspacetech.org > > > > _______________________________________________ > OSList mailing list > To post send emails to OSList@lists.openspacetech.org <mailto: > OSList@lists.openspacetech.org> > To unsubscribe send an email to oslist-le...@lists.openspacetech.org > <mailto:oslist-le...@lists.openspacetech.org> > To subscribe or manage your subscription click below: > http://lists.openspacetech.org/listinfo.cgi/oslist-openspacetech.org > Past archives can be viewed here: > http://www.mail-archive.com/oslist@lists.openspacetech.org > > -------------- next part -------------- > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > URL: < > http://lists.openspacetech.org/pipermail/oslist-openspacetech.org/attachments/20210114/3c2f288d/attachment-0001.html > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 10 > Date: Thu, 14 Jan 2021 10:55:24 -0800 > From: Jeff Aitken <r.jeff.ait...@gmail.com> > To: World wide Open Space Technology email list > <oslist@lists.openspacetech.org> > Subject: Re: [OSList] Confused American > Message-ID: > <CANNDQeYg6Wkg6U= > fwuru8mwxdyer3ajfsr4zpny9kkj6zhg...@mail.gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" > > Hi folks. The voice that I used for that post was that of my cousin, whom I > love very much. He is, like me, a white American with twelve generations of > ancestry in Maryland and West Virginia, until our grandfather moved to > California. > > I was reflecting on the theme of the upcoming online OS conference, around > holding space for 8 billion people in conversation. My cousin's voice came > through suddenly, to start to reflect the intensity of the conflicts in the > USA on the day of the 2nd impeachment. > > Holding space for even the USA's 300+ million at this time requires digging > deeper than usual. I need to understand the assumptions and judgments that > I make about folks whose voices sound like that. I did have satire in mind > at first, but then the floor dropped out beneath me. > > So, it became an offering in these interesting times. > > Jeff > > On Thu, Jan 14, 2021 at 7:43 AM Barry Owen via OSList < > oslist@lists.openspacetech.org> wrote: > > > Exactly Paul - I thought "Tongue in cheek" > > > > On Thu, Jan 14, 2021 at 9:39 AM paul levy via OSList < > > oslist@lists.openspacetech.org> wrote: > > > >> Perrhaps it is my English sense of humour. I read deep irony into Jeff's > >> post and then, via glorious. Wildesque satire, it reads rather > differently > >> > >> From the garden shed, a haven in lockdown, > >> > >> Paul > >> > >> On Thu, 14 Jan 2021, 14:34 harrison owen via OSList, < > >> oslist@lists.openspacetech.org> wrote: > >> > >>> This is totally weird? I?ve known Jeff for years and I simply can?t > >>> believe he would say something like that. Strange times. > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> ho > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> Sent from Mail <https://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=550986> for > >>> Windows 10 > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> *From: *Jeff Aitken via OSList <oslist@lists.openspacetech.org> > >>> *Sent: *Wednesday, January 13, 2021 5:49 PM > >>> *To: *World wide Open Space Technology email list > >>> <oslist@lists.openspacetech.org> > >>> *Cc: *Jeff Aitken <r.jeff.ait...@gmail.com> > >>> *Subject: *[OSList] Confused American > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> As a patriotic American I join millions who were confused when the > >>> > >>> President did not step boldly into the opportunity in his Jan 6 public > >>> > >>> speech to announce the arrest of Joe Biden and others for that satanic > >>> > >>> pedophilic conspiracy ring. Everything had been perfectly orchestrated > >>> > >>> leading up to that moment, it seemed. > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> The gentleman who interviewed Harrison last year on his YouTube > >>> > >>> channel, the old friend from DC days with an intelligence background > >>> > >>> (who loved the idea of Open Space!) was also greatly optimistic (with > >>> > >>> other interviewees on his channel) that this denouement would take > >>> > >>> place on the optimal day. > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> What went wrong? I remain confused. > >>> > >>> _______________________________________________ > >>> > >>> OSList mailing list > >>> > >>> To post send emails to OSList@lists.openspacetech.org > >>> > >>> To unsubscribe send an email to oslist-le...@lists.openspacetech.org > >>> > >>> To subscribe or manage your subscription click below: > >>> > >>> http://lists.openspacetech.org/listinfo.cgi/oslist-openspacetech.org > >>> > >>> Past archives can be viewed here: > >>> http://www.mail-archive.com/oslist@lists.openspacetech.org > >>> > >>> > >>> _______________________________________________ > >>> OSList mailing list > >>> To post send emails to OSList@lists.openspacetech.org > >>> To unsubscribe send an email to oslist-le...@lists.openspacetech.org > >>> To subscribe or manage your subscription click below: > >>> http://lists.openspacetech.org/listinfo.cgi/oslist-openspacetech.org > >>> Past archives can be viewed here: > >>> http://www.mail-archive.com/oslist@lists.openspacetech.org > >> > >> _______________________________________________ > >> OSList mailing list > >> To post send emails to OSList@lists.openspacetech.org > >> To unsubscribe send an email to oslist-le...@lists.openspacetech.org > >> To subscribe or manage your subscription click below: > >> http://lists.openspacetech.org/listinfo.cgi/oslist-openspacetech.org > >> Past archives can be viewed here: > >> http://www.mail-archive.com/oslist@lists.openspacetech.org > > > > > > > > -- > > > > < > https://barryowen.us?promo=email_sig&utm_source=product&utm_medium=email_sig&utm_campaign=gmail_api&utm_content=thumb > > > > Barry Owen > > barryowen.us > > < > https://barryowen.us?promo=email_sig&utm_source=product&utm_medium=email_sig&utm_campaign=gmail_api&utm_content=thumb > > > > _______________________________________________ > > OSList mailing list > > To post send emails to OSList@lists.openspacetech.org > > To unsubscribe send an email to oslist-le...@lists.openspacetech.org > > To subscribe or manage your subscription click below: > > http://lists.openspacetech.org/listinfo.cgi/oslist-openspacetech.org > > Past archives can be viewed here: > > http://www.mail-archive.com/oslist@lists.openspacetech.org > -------------- next part -------------- > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > URL: < > http://lists.openspacetech.org/pipermail/oslist-openspacetech.org/attachments/20210114/d6b7a059/attachment-0001.html > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 11 > Date: Thu, 14 Jan 2021 11:07:12 -0800 > From: Chris Corrigan <ch...@chriscorrigan.com> > To: World wide Open Space Technology email list > <oslist@lists.openspacetech.org> > Subject: Re: [OSList] Confused American > Message-ID: > <CAO8x+WAsr--rXVyVNNkFLfm=GXYQUjXhM3pxXmPMaJhtM= > 8...@mail.gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" > > All cultures have a trickster. > > You're all just not used to it being Jeff! > > (a friendly raven squawk, right back at you, brother) > > Chris > > On Thu, Jan 14, 2021 at 10:56 AM Jeff Aitken via OSList < > oslist@lists.openspacetech.org> wrote: > > > Hi folks. The voice that I used for that post was that of my cousin, whom > > I love very much. He is, like me, a white American with > > twelve generations of ancestry in Maryland and West Virginia, until our > > grandfather moved to California. > > > > I was reflecting on the theme of the upcoming online OS conference, > around > > holding space for 8 billion people in conversation. My cousin's voice > came > > through suddenly, to start to reflect the intensity of the conflicts in > the > > USA on the day of the 2nd impeachment. > > > > Holding space for even the USA's 300+ million at this time requires > > digging deeper than usual. I need to understand the assumptions and > > judgments that I make about folks whose voices sound like that. I did > have > > satire in mind at first, but then the floor dropped out beneath me. > > > > So, it became an offering in these interesting times. > > > > Jeff > > > > On Thu, Jan 14, 2021 at 7:43 AM Barry Owen via OSList < > > oslist@lists.openspacetech.org> wrote: > > > >> Exactly Paul - I thought "Tongue in cheek" > >> > >> On Thu, Jan 14, 2021 at 9:39 AM paul levy via OSList < > >> oslist@lists.openspacetech.org> wrote: > >> > >>> Perrhaps it is my English sense of humour. I read deep irony into > Jeff's > >>> post and then, via glorious. Wildesque satire, it reads rather > differently > >>> > >>> From the garden shed, a haven in lockdown, > >>> > >>> Paul > >>> > >>> On Thu, 14 Jan 2021, 14:34 harrison owen via OSList, < > >>> oslist@lists.openspacetech.org> wrote: > >>> > >>>> This is totally weird? I?ve known Jeff for years and I simply can?t > >>>> believe he would say something like that. Strange times. > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> ho > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> Sent from Mail <https://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=550986> for > >>>> Windows 10 > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> *From: *Jeff Aitken via OSList <oslist@lists.openspacetech.org> > >>>> *Sent: *Wednesday, January 13, 2021 5:49 PM > >>>> *To: *World wide Open Space Technology email list > >>>> <oslist@lists.openspacetech.org> > >>>> *Cc: *Jeff Aitken <r.jeff.ait...@gmail.com> > >>>> *Subject: *[OSList] Confused American > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> As a patriotic American I join millions who were confused when the > >>>> > >>>> President did not step boldly into the opportunity in his Jan 6 public > >>>> > >>>> speech to announce the arrest of Joe Biden and others for that satanic > >>>> > >>>> pedophilic conspiracy ring. Everything had been perfectly orchestrated > >>>> > >>>> leading up to that moment, it seemed. > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> The gentleman who interviewed Harrison last year on his YouTube > >>>> > >>>> channel, the old friend from DC days with an intelligence background > >>>> > >>>> (who loved the idea of Open Space!) was also greatly optimistic (with > >>>> > >>>> other interviewees on his channel) that this denouement would take > >>>> > >>>> place on the optimal day. > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> What went wrong? I remain confused. > >>>> > >>>> _______________________________________________ > >>>> > >>>> OSList mailing list > >>>> > >>>> To post send emails to OSList@lists.openspacetech.org > >>>> > >>>> To unsubscribe send an email to oslist-le...@lists.openspacetech.org > >>>> > >>>> To subscribe or manage your subscription click below: > >>>> > >>>> http://lists.openspacetech.org/listinfo.cgi/oslist-openspacetech.org > >>>> > >>>> Past archives can be viewed here: > >>>> http://www.mail-archive.com/oslist@lists.openspacetech.org > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> _______________________________________________ > >>>> OSList mailing list > >>>> To post send emails to OSList@lists.openspacetech.org > >>>> To unsubscribe send an email to oslist-le...@lists.openspacetech.org > >>>> To subscribe or manage your subscription click below: > >>>> http://lists.openspacetech.org/listinfo.cgi/oslist-openspacetech.org > >>>> Past archives can be viewed here: > >>>> http://www.mail-archive.com/oslist@lists.openspacetech.org > >>> > >>> _______________________________________________ > >>> OSList mailing list > >>> To post send emails to OSList@lists.openspacetech.org > >>> To unsubscribe send an email to oslist-le...@lists.openspacetech.org > >>> To subscribe or manage your subscription click below: > >>> http://lists.openspacetech.org/listinfo.cgi/oslist-openspacetech.org > >>> Past archives can be viewed here: > >>> http://www.mail-archive.com/oslist@lists.openspacetech.org > >> > >> > >> > >> -- > >> > >> < > https://barryowen.us?promo=email_sig&utm_source=product&utm_medium=email_sig&utm_campaign=gmail_api&utm_content=thumb > > > >> Barry Owen > >> barryowen.us > >> < > https://barryowen.us?promo=email_sig&utm_source=product&utm_medium=email_sig&utm_campaign=gmail_api&utm_content=thumb > > > >> _______________________________________________ > >> OSList mailing list > >> To post send emails to OSList@lists.openspacetech.org > >> To unsubscribe send an email to oslist-le...@lists.openspacetech.org > >> To subscribe or manage your subscription click below: > >> http://lists.openspacetech.org/listinfo.cgi/oslist-openspacetech.org > >> Past archives can be viewed here: > >> http://www.mail-archive.com/oslist@lists.openspacetech.org > > > > _______________________________________________ > > OSList mailing list > > To post send emails to OSList@lists.openspacetech.org > > To unsubscribe send an email to oslist-le...@lists.openspacetech.org > > To subscribe or manage your subscription click below: > > http://lists.openspacetech.org/listinfo.cgi/oslist-openspacetech.org > > Past archives can be viewed here: > > http://www.mail-archive.com/oslist@lists.openspacetech.org > > > > -- > --- > CHRIS CORRIGAN > Facilitation - Training - Process Design - Strategy > Complexity - Art of Hosting > http://www.chriscorrigan.com > > Grateful to live on Nex?wle?lex?wm (Bowen Island), Sk?wx?wu?7mesh > territory, > -------------- next part -------------- > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > URL: < > http://lists.openspacetech.org/pipermail/oslist-openspacetech.org/attachments/20210114/3c396c8c/attachment-0001.html > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 12 > Date: Thu, 14 Jan 2021 19:08:52 +0000 > From: "Marc C. Trudeau" <marctrud...@alum.wpi.edu> > To: "OSList (email to post)" <oslist@lists.openspacetech.org> > Subject: Re: [OSList] Confused American > Message-ID: <a956bbf8-0c14-4e1e-8ecf-9b1d3626a...@alum.wpi.edu> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" > > ?? > > On Jan 14, 2021, at 1:55 PM, Jeff Aitken via OSList < > oslist@lists.openspacetech.org<mailto:oslist@lists.openspacetech.org>> > wrote: > > Hi folks. The voice that I used for that post was that of my cousin, whom > I love very much. He is, like me, a white American with twelve generations > of ancestry in Maryland and West Virginia, until our grandfather moved to > California. > > I was reflecting on the theme of the upcoming online OS conference, around > holding space for 8 billion people in conversation. My cousin's voice came > through suddenly, to start to reflect the intensity of the conflicts in the > USA on the day of the 2nd impeachment. > > Holding space for even the USA's 300+ million at this time requires > digging deeper than usual. I need to understand the assumptions and > judgments that I make about folks whose voices sound like that. I did have > satire in mind at first, but then the floor dropped out beneath me. > > So, it became an offering in these interesting times. > > Jeff > -------------- next part -------------- > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > URL: < > http://lists.openspacetech.org/pipermail/oslist-openspacetech.org/attachments/20210114/6450c76d/attachment-0001.html > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 13 > Date: Thu, 14 Jan 2021 15:29:56 -0500 > From: harrison owen <hhowe...@gmail.com> > To: World wide Open Space Technology email list > <oslist@lists.openspacetech.org> > Subject: Re: [OSList] Confused American > Message-ID: <08013593-ae4c-4b3f-9e57-05ff364eb...@hxcore.ol> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > URL: < > http://lists.openspacetech.org/pipermail/oslist-openspacetech.org/attachments/20210114/1e47627a/attachment-0001.html > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 14 > Date: Thu, 14 Jan 2021 16:23:49 -0500 > From: CHARLES COLPITTS <charl...@aol.com> > To: World wide Open Space Technology email list > <oslist@lists.openspacetech.org> > Subject: Re: [OSList] Confused American > Message-ID: <1a6bdb1c-e1a4-43ef-811d-1afa0bb53...@aol.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" > > All Jeff is doing is reminding us what the Qanon expectations were for the > Trump administration. It?s total lunacy, but it?s central part of the > Qanon litany. > > Sent from my iPad > > > On Jan 13, 2021, at 11:22 PM, Patricia Haines via OSList < > oslist@lists.openspacetech.org> wrote: > > > > ? > > I thought Open Space was about democracy, giving voice to everyone? > > > >> On Wed, Jan 13, 2021, 9:26 PM Jeff Aitken via OSList < > oslist@lists.openspacetech.org> wrote: > >> As a patriotic American I join millions who were confused when the > >> President did not step boldly into the opportunity in his Jan 6 public > >> speech to announce the arrest of Joe Biden and others for that satanic > >> pedophilic conspiracy ring. Everything had been perfectly orchestrated > >> leading up to that moment, it seemed. > >> > >> The gentleman who interviewed Harrison last year on his YouTube > >> channel, the old friend from DC days with an intelligence background > >> (who loved the idea of Open Space!) was also greatly optimistic (with > >> other interviewees on his channel) that this denouement would take > >> place on the optimal day. > >> > >> What went wrong? I remain confused. > >> _______________________________________________ > >> OSList mailing list > >> To post send emails to OSList@lists.openspacetech.org > >> To unsubscribe send an email to oslist-le...@lists.openspacetech.org > >> To subscribe or manage your subscription click below: > >> http://lists.openspacetech.org/listinfo.cgi/oslist-openspacetech.org > >> Past archives can be viewed here: > http://www.mail-archive.com/oslist@lists.openspacetech.org > > _______________________________________________ > > OSList mailing list > > To post send emails to OSList@lists.openspacetech.org > > To unsubscribe send an email to oslist-le...@lists.openspacetech.org > > To subscribe or manage your subscription click below: > > http://lists.openspacetech.org/listinfo.cgi/oslist-openspacetech.org > > Past archives can be viewed here: > http://www.mail-archive.com/oslist@lists.openspacetech.org > -------------- next part -------------- > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > URL: < > http://lists.openspacetech.org/pipermail/oslist-openspacetech.org/attachments/20210114/dcd32543/attachment-0001.html > > > > ------------------------------ > > Subject: Digest Footer > > _______________________________________________ > OSList mailing list > To post send emails to OSList@lists.openspacetech.org > To unsubscribe send an email to oslist-le...@lists.openspacetech.org > To subscribe or manage your subscription click below: > http://lists.openspacetech.org/listinfo.cgi/oslist-openspacetech.org > Past archives can be viewed here: > http://www.mail-archive.com/oslist@lists.openspacetech.org > > ------------------------------ > > End of OSList Digest, Vol 117, Issue 14 > *************************************** >
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