Mark, I know you are saying that it can't be done here. I hope to not be missing your point again. Anyway, am appreciating the exchange.
On Tue, Jan 26, 2021, 11:33 AM Jeff Aitken <r.jeff.ait...@gmail.com> wrote: > Thanks Mark. Yes i took an odd tangent, which my friends will know is > typical for me... > > Thanks for clarifying and for posting your deep concerns in more detail. > > Working with an open space approach in a large and polarized country in a > most challenging time: issues and opportunities... ? > > Jeff > > On Tue, Jan 26, 2021, 10:43 AM Mark Carmel via OSList < > oslist@lists.openspacetech.org> wrote: > >> Thanks for your reply Jeff. However, you missed my points entirely. I was >> referring to how the four fold way don't work in the real world and what we >> as open space facilitators must do in my opinion to follow the new law of >> leadership loyalty. >> All the best to you also, >> MC >> >> On Mon, Jan 25, 2021, 9:16 PM <oslist-requ...@lists.openspacetech.org> >> wrote: >> >>> Send OSList mailing list submissions to >>> oslist@lists.openspacetech.org >>> >>> To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit >>> >>> http://lists.openspacetech.org/listinfo.cgi/oslist-openspacetech.org >>> or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to >>> oslist-requ...@lists.openspacetech.org >>> >>> You can reach the person managing the list at >>> oslist-ow...@lists.openspacetech.org >>> >>> When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific >>> than "Re: Contents of OSList digest..." >>> >>> >>> Today's Topics: >>> >>> 1. Being present and listen (K?ri Gunnarsson) >>> 2. Re: Reply to Jeff Aitken on Four Fold Way of Leadership... It >>> Ain't Working Brother... (Jeff Aitken) >>> 3. Re: Reply to Jeff Aitken on Four Fold Way of Leadership... It >>> Ain't Working Brother... (Jeff Aitken) >>> 4. Kurs f?r Online Open Space Facilitation (Alexander Schilling) >>> >>> >>> ---------------------------------------------------------------------- >>> >>> Message: 1 >>> Date: Mon, 25 Jan 2021 05:58:52 +0800 >>> From: K?ri Gunnarsson <kortleg...@gmail.com> >>> To: World wide Open Space Technology email list >>> <oslist@lists.openspacetech.org> >>> Subject: [OSList] Being present and listen >>> Message-ID: >>> < >>> calygw_dnjr9eejldt5cnbobqesy7_zbv3wgwtjxd1gkn+ca...@mail.gmail.com> >>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" >>> >>> Dear community >>> >>> Thank you all for all the wonderful moments that we have shared over the >>> years. >>> >>> I am following up on an action I felt inspired to call at the Peace and >>> High Performance event. >>> >>> If you are interested in the following, then I Invite you to send me a >>> message and let me know, If you want to be added to a public list of >>> group >>> members, I will do so, otherwise I can keep your participation private. I >>> will send an email to people who have asked to be signed up before >>> February >>> 1st looking for a time to open discussion on zoom or similar platform. >>> >>> A story from the event: I posted a Question on youth and we discussed how >>> people open space for their peers, it's not really the job of the >>> outsider >>> to come in and tell the Others what to do. After many other discussions >>> an >>> emerging theme was apparent to me, it was the theme of listening. >>> Authentic >>> listening, Deep listening, Appreciative inquiry and listening, Celan >>> Language and listening, Open Space and listening, Presence and >>> listening.... there were some more conversations, reaching out to people >>> in >>> bubbles. crossing divides, being present for the inexperienced, the >>> young. >>> I posted a question on structure. Sociocracy as a structure was proposed. >>> Well, some of us want to continue this conversation. We want to see a >>> structure that is there for people reaching out to people in the many >>> fragmented communities and listen, be it online in one form or another or >>> even in the meat space whan that is safe. >>> >>> Anyhow, we are now putting together a group to build an embracing >>> structure >>> of presence for people who go to different communities for appreciative >>> listening and being present for them to open space in their circle! >>> >>> I am looking forward to your reply, my email address is >>> kortleg...@gmail.com >>> >>> *Best regards* >>> *K?ri Gunnarsson* >>> >>> *Iceland / Taiwan* >>> -------------- next part -------------- >>> An HTML attachment was scrubbed... >>> URL: < >>> http://lists.openspacetech.org/pipermail/oslist-openspacetech.org/attachments/20210125/2dd7a20a/attachment-0001.html >>> > >>> >>> ------------------------------ >>> >>> Message: 2 >>> Date: Sun, 24 Jan 2021 15:26:09 -0800 >>> From: Jeff Aitken <r.jeff.ait...@gmail.com> >>> To: World wide Open Space Technology email list >>> <OSLIST@lists.openspacetech.org> >>> Subject: Re: [OSList] Reply to Jeff Aitken on Four Fold Way of >>> Leadership... It Ain't Working Brother... >>> Message-ID: >>> <CANNDQebdMbr56mfb5Wi4q+yn71C0ehJW-GKmwk= >>> fsjv+ur0...@mail.gmail.com> >>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" >>> >>> Hi Mark. I appreciate that you express in more detail what you have been >>> sharing in short phrases. I won't say more right now (busy day) but it >>> may >>> be a conversation here. Best to you. >>> >>> >>> On Sun, Jan 24, 2021, 2:46 PM Mark Carmel via OSList < >>> oslist@lists.openspacetech.org> wrote: >>> >>> > Jeff, >>> > Thank you very much for your thoughtful reply to my post ... >>> predicting >>> > the future, toe the party line, rise to the top, do otherwise you go >>> to the >>> > bottom... Your reply referred me to the four fold way of leadership to >>> > ...speak your truth without blame or judgement... That's a wonderful >>> warm >>> > and fuzzy thought Jeff but it is not practical and it is not practiced >>> in >>> > the real world. It is not working. Let's look at the best example of >>> > leadership right now in the world. That is America and the outcome of >>> an >>> > election. Let's take a close look at the winners who swept all seats of >>> > power and have now the total, coveted control and power over the entire >>> > government with which to lead. Do the winners speak their truth (now >>> that >>> > they won) without blame or judgment? Did the winners speak their truth >>> > without blame or judgment in order to win? The answers are very clear >>> > Jeff. Hell no. Speaking your truth with a lot of blame and a lot of >>> > judgment is THE way to gain leadership power and control as we've just >>> > witnessed. To believe that this is not true is simply naive if one >>> observes >>> > real world leadership results. The 2nd point the 4 four fold way makes >>> > regarding the principle of speaking your truth without blame or >>> judgment, >>> > Is that ...your truth is not THE truth... When you consider how divided >>> > America is now around who is telling the truth, do you really think >>> that >>> > the winners of the election believe that their truth is not THE truth >>> > Jeff? The four fold way sounds good Jeff, a vision, but not a reality >>> if >>> > one faces facts about how and why leaders rise to power. Tow the party >>> > line folks, said another way is as follows ... Respect and obey your >>> > leaders and you will rise to the top. Disagree and find faults with >>> your >>> > leaders, by sharing your four fold way feelings about what is wrong and >>> > what could be better, and you will go downward. Not my truth, THE >>> truth. >>> > Leadership loyalty is THE only way to not put yourself .... and others >>> we >>> > try to bring in the safe space.... into harms way. The rules have >>> changed. >>> > And rules is rules. >>> > MC >>> > >>> > On Sun, Jan 24, 2021, 1:21 AM <oslist-requ...@lists.openspacetech.org> >>> > wrote: >>> > >>> >> Send OSList mailing list submissions to >>> >> oslist@lists.openspacetech.org >>> >> >>> >> To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit >>> >> >>> >> http://lists.openspacetech.org/listinfo.cgi/oslist-openspacetech.org >>> >> or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to >>> >> oslist-requ...@lists.openspacetech.org >>> >> >>> >> You can reach the person managing the list at >>> >> oslist-ow...@lists.openspacetech.org >>> >> >>> >> When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific >>> >> than "Re: Contents of OSList digest..." >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> Today's Topics: >>> >> >>> >> 1. Re: Predicting the future...tow the party line and you will >>> >> rise to the top, disobey and you go to the bottom (Jeff Aitken) >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> ---------------------------------------------------------------------- >>> >> >>> >> Message: 1 >>> >> Date: Fri, 22 Jan 2021 16:56:01 -0800 >>> >> From: Jeff Aitken <r.jeff.ait...@gmail.com> >>> >> To: World wide Open Space Technology email list >>> >> <oslist@lists.openspacetech.org> >>> >> Subject: Re: [OSList] Predicting the future...tow the party line and >>> >> you will rise to the top, disobey and you go to the bottom >>> >> Message-ID: >>> >> <CANNDQebBLGYeLZ_+5T4XVn9TmgAA1= >>> >> nb6q-8k44nff89+y1...@mail.gmail.com> >>> >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" >>> >> >>> >> Mark, you seem to be feeling a lot of distress. Just wanted to say >>> that, >>> >> and I am glad you are sharing with the open space community. "Speak >>> your >>> >> truth, without blame or judgement" said Angeles Arrien in the Fourfold >>> >> Way. >>> >> I don't know what else to say. >>> >> >>> >> Jeff >>> >> >>> >> On Thu, Jan 21, 2021, 9:08 PM Tony Budak via OSList < >>> >> oslist@lists.openspacetech.org> wrote: >>> >> >>> >> > I prefer to tow a parallel line of conversation leading to a change >>> of >>> >> > culture. >>> >> > >>> >> > On 1/21/2021 9:15 PM, Mark Carmel via OSList wrote: >>> >> > >>> >> > The future is CLEAR >>> >> > >>> >> > _______________________________________________ >>> >> > OSList mailing list >>> >> > To post send emails to OSList@lists.openspacetech.org >>> >> > To unsubscribe send an email to >>> oslist-le...@lists.openspacetech.org >>> >> > To subscribe or manage your subscription click below: >>> >> http://lists.openspacetech.org/listinfo.cgi/oslist-openspacetech.org >>> >> > Past archives can be viewed here: >>> >> http://www.mail-archive.com/oslist@lists.openspacetech.org >>> >> > >>> >> > -- >>> >> > Stay Safe & Well, Tony Budak >>> >> > >>> >> > _______________________________________________ >>> >> > OSList mailing list >>> >> > To post send emails to OSList@lists.openspacetech.org >>> >> > To unsubscribe send an email to >>> oslist-le...@lists.openspacetech.org >>> >> > To subscribe or manage your subscription click below: >>> >> > >>> http://lists.openspacetech.org/listinfo.cgi/oslist-openspacetech.org >>> >> > Past archives can be viewed here: >>> >> > http://www.mail-archive.com/oslist@lists.openspacetech.org >>> >> -------------- next part -------------- >>> >> An HTML attachment was scrubbed... >>> >> URL: < >>> >> >>> http://lists.openspacetech.org/pipermail/oslist-openspacetech.org/attachments/20210122/7e6b3f4f/attachment-0001.html >>> >> > >>> >> >>> >> ------------------------------ >>> >> >>> >> Subject: Digest Footer >>> >> >>> >> _______________________________________________ >>> >> OSList mailing list >>> >> To post send emails to OSList@lists.openspacetech.org >>> >> To unsubscribe send an email to oslist-le...@lists.openspacetech.org >>> >> To subscribe or manage your subscription click below: >>> >> http://lists.openspacetech.org/listinfo.cgi/oslist-openspacetech.org >>> >> Past archives can be viewed here: >>> >> http://www.mail-archive.com/oslist@lists.openspacetech.org >>> >> >>> >> ------------------------------ >>> >> >>> >> End of OSList Digest, Vol 117, Issue 27 >>> >> *************************************** >>> >> >>> > _______________________________________________ >>> > OSList mailing list >>> > To post send emails to OSList@lists.openspacetech.org >>> > To unsubscribe send an email to oslist-le...@lists.openspacetech.org >>> > To subscribe or manage your subscription click below: >>> > http://lists.openspacetech.org/listinfo.cgi/oslist-openspacetech.org >>> > Past archives can be viewed here: >>> > http://www.mail-archive.com/oslist@lists.openspacetech.org >>> -------------- next part -------------- >>> An HTML attachment was scrubbed... >>> URL: < >>> http://lists.openspacetech.org/pipermail/oslist-openspacetech.org/attachments/20210124/61063294/attachment-0001.html >>> > >>> >>> ------------------------------ >>> >>> Message: 3 >>> Date: Sun, 24 Jan 2021 22:27:33 -0800 >>> From: Jeff Aitken <r.jeff.ait...@gmail.com> >>> To: World wide Open Space Technology email list >>> <OSLIST@lists.openspacetech.org> >>> Subject: Re: [OSList] Reply to Jeff Aitken on Four Fold Way of >>> Leadership... It Ain't Working Brother... >>> Message-ID: >>> < >>> canndqeazb69fng_rat564ndhqvyqj8gj7mfe-hlsvhk9tb+...@mail.gmail.com> >>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" >>> >>> Hi Mark. On reflection on your writing, I realized I wanted to go back to >>> memories of US presidential elections since my teens. I can count seven >>> elections since the start of the 1970s that left me in utter despair. I >>> felt certain that it was "curtains" for everything I hold dear. I was >>> literally depressed and confused for weeks or months, and motivated >>> eventually to raise my voice for my values. >>> >>> My guess is that those seven elections were happy occasions for you. I >>> could be mistaken. >>> >>> My reason for raising this is that I just had an insight that my greatest >>> fears did not come true. There were many things that I protested >>> vigorously, and there was much suffering during these five decades >>> (during >>> all of the presidencies) that I do not discount. And some factors >>> insulated >>> me personally from some of those troubles. >>> >>> It may be that some of us are particularly passionate about politics, and >>> others have other reasons to care deeply about one outcome or another. >>> And >>> maybe the stakes are higher now than they were in previous years, but I'm >>> not sure if that is true. >>> >>> I don't exactly know why it occurred to me to look back like this. But I >>> noticed that this election had maybe a similar impact on you as those >>> seven >>> had on me. So I just honor that you are feeling that way and you express >>> it >>> here. I don't have a clue what else to say. >>> >>> Jeff >>> >>> On Sun, Jan 24, 2021, 3:26 PM Jeff Aitken <r.jeff.ait...@gmail.com> >>> wrote: >>> >>> > Hi Mark. I appreciate that you express in more detail what you have >>> been >>> > sharing in short phrases. I won't say more right now (busy day) but it >>> may >>> > be a conversation here. Best to you. >>> > >>> > >>> > On Sun, Jan 24, 2021, 2:46 PM Mark Carmel via OSList < >>> > oslist@lists.openspacetech.org> wrote: >>> > >>> >> Jeff, >>> >> Thank you very much for your thoughtful reply to my post ... >>> predicting >>> >> the future, toe the party line, rise to the top, do otherwise you go >>> to the >>> >> bottom... Your reply referred me to the four fold way of leadership to >>> >> ...speak your truth without blame or judgement... That's a wonderful >>> warm >>> >> and fuzzy thought Jeff but it is not practical and it is not >>> practiced in >>> >> the real world. It is not working. Let's look at the best example of >>> >> leadership right now in the world. That is America and the outcome of >>> an >>> >> election. Let's take a close look at the winners who swept all seats >>> of >>> >> power and have now the total, coveted control and power over the >>> entire >>> >> government with which to lead. Do the winners speak their truth >>> (now that >>> >> they won) without blame or judgment? Did the winners speak their >>> truth >>> >> without blame or judgment in order to win? The answers are very clear >>> >> Jeff. Hell no. Speaking your truth with a lot of blame and a lot of >>> >> judgment is THE way to gain leadership power and control as we've just >>> >> witnessed. To believe that this is not true is simply naive if one >>> observes >>> >> real world leadership results. The 2nd point the 4 four fold way makes >>> >> regarding the principle of speaking your truth without blame or >>> judgment, >>> >> Is that ...your truth is not THE truth... When you consider how >>> divided >>> >> America is now around who is telling the truth, do you really think >>> that >>> >> the winners of the election believe that their truth is not THE truth >>> >> Jeff? The four fold way sounds good Jeff, a vision, but not a >>> reality if >>> >> one faces facts about how and why leaders rise to power. Tow the >>> party >>> >> line folks, said another way is as follows ... Respect and obey your >>> >> leaders and you will rise to the top. Disagree and find faults with >>> your >>> >> leaders, by sharing your four fold way feelings about what is wrong >>> and >>> >> what could be better, and you will go downward. Not my truth, THE >>> truth. >>> >> Leadership loyalty is THE only way to not put yourself .... and >>> others we >>> >> try to bring in the safe space.... into harms way. The rules have >>> changed. >>> >> And rules is rules. >>> >> MC >>> >> >>> >> On Sun, Jan 24, 2021, 1:21 AM <oslist-requ...@lists.openspacetech.org >>> > >>> >> wrote: >>> >> >>> >>> Send OSList mailing list submissions to >>> >>> oslist@lists.openspacetech.org >>> >>> >>> >>> To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit >>> >>> >>> >>> http://lists.openspacetech.org/listinfo.cgi/oslist-openspacetech.org >>> >>> or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to >>> >>> oslist-requ...@lists.openspacetech.org >>> >>> >>> >>> You can reach the person managing the list at >>> >>> oslist-ow...@lists.openspacetech.org >>> >>> >>> >>> When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific >>> >>> than "Re: Contents of OSList digest..." >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> Today's Topics: >>> >>> >>> >>> 1. Re: Predicting the future...tow the party line and you will >>> >>> rise to the top, disobey and you go to the bottom (Jeff Aitken) >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> ---------------------------------------------------------------------- >>> >>> >>> >>> Message: 1 >>> >>> Date: Fri, 22 Jan 2021 16:56:01 -0800 >>> >>> From: Jeff Aitken <r.jeff.ait...@gmail.com> >>> >>> To: World wide Open Space Technology email list >>> >>> <oslist@lists.openspacetech.org> >>> >>> Subject: Re: [OSList] Predicting the future...tow the party line and >>> >>> you will rise to the top, disobey and you go to the bottom >>> >>> Message-ID: >>> >>> <CANNDQebBLGYeLZ_+5T4XVn9TmgAA1= >>> >>> nb6q-8k44nff89+y1...@mail.gmail.com> >>> >>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" >>> >>> >>> >>> Mark, you seem to be feeling a lot of distress. Just wanted to say >>> that, >>> >>> and I am glad you are sharing with the open space community. "Speak >>> your >>> >>> truth, without blame or judgement" said Angeles Arrien in the >>> Fourfold >>> >>> Way. >>> >>> I don't know what else to say. >>> >>> >>> >>> Jeff >>> >>> >>> >>> On Thu, Jan 21, 2021, 9:08 PM Tony Budak via OSList < >>> >>> oslist@lists.openspacetech.org> wrote: >>> >>> >>> >>> > I prefer to tow a parallel line of conversation leading to a >>> change of >>> >>> > culture. >>> >>> > >>> >>> > On 1/21/2021 9:15 PM, Mark Carmel via OSList wrote: >>> >>> > >>> >>> > The future is CLEAR >>> >>> > >>> >>> > _______________________________________________ >>> >>> > OSList mailing list >>> >>> > To post send emails to OSList@lists.openspacetech.org >>> >>> > To unsubscribe send an email to >>> oslist-le...@lists.openspacetech.org >>> >>> > To subscribe or manage your subscription click below: >>> >>> http://lists.openspacetech.org/listinfo.cgi/oslist-openspacetech.org >>> >>> > Past archives can be viewed here: >>> >>> http://www.mail-archive.com/oslist@lists.openspacetech.org >>> >>> > >>> >>> > -- >>> >>> > Stay Safe & Well, Tony Budak >>> >>> > >>> >>> > _______________________________________________ >>> >>> > OSList mailing list >>> >>> > To post send emails to OSList@lists.openspacetech.org >>> >>> > To unsubscribe send an email to >>> oslist-le...@lists.openspacetech.org >>> >>> > To subscribe or manage your subscription click below: >>> >>> > >>> http://lists.openspacetech.org/listinfo.cgi/oslist-openspacetech.org >>> >>> > Past archives can be viewed here: >>> >>> > http://www.mail-archive.com/oslist@lists.openspacetech.org >>> >>> -------------- next part -------------- >>> >>> An HTML attachment was scrubbed... >>> >>> URL: < >>> >>> >>> http://lists.openspacetech.org/pipermail/oslist-openspacetech.org/attachments/20210122/7e6b3f4f/attachment-0001.html >>> >>> > >>> >>> >>> >>> ------------------------------ >>> >>> >>> >>> Subject: Digest Footer >>> >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> >>> OSList mailing list >>> >>> To post send emails to OSList@lists.openspacetech.org >>> >>> To unsubscribe send an email to oslist-le...@lists.openspacetech.org >>> >>> To subscribe or manage your subscription click below: >>> >>> http://lists.openspacetech.org/listinfo.cgi/oslist-openspacetech.org >>> >>> Past archives can be viewed here: >>> >>> http://www.mail-archive.com/oslist@lists.openspacetech.org >>> >>> >>> >>> ------------------------------ >>> >>> >>> >>> End of OSList Digest, Vol 117, Issue 27 >>> >>> *************************************** >>> >>> >>> >> _______________________________________________ >>> >> OSList mailing list >>> >> To post send emails to OSList@lists.openspacetech.org >>> >> To unsubscribe send an email to oslist-le...@lists.openspacetech.org >>> >> To subscribe or manage your subscription click below: >>> >> http://lists.openspacetech.org/listinfo.cgi/oslist-openspacetech.org >>> >> Past archives can be viewed here: >>> >> http://www.mail-archive.com/oslist@lists.openspacetech.org >>> > >>> > >>> -------------- next part -------------- >>> An HTML attachment was scrubbed... >>> URL: < >>> http://lists.openspacetech.org/pipermail/oslist-openspacetech.org/attachments/20210124/fba134d1/attachment-0001.html >>> > >>> >>> ------------------------------ >>> >>> Message: 4 >>> Date: Mon, 25 Jan 2021 19:21:21 +0100 >>> From: "Alexander Schilling" <alexander.schill...@raumfuer.de> >>> To: "'World wide Open Space Technology email list'" >>> <oslist@lists.openspacetech.org> >>> Subject: [OSList] Kurs f?r Online Open Space Facilitation >>> Message-ID: <000001d6f346$e22a6da0$a67f48e0$@raumfuer.de> >>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" >>> >>> Liebe Community, >>> >>> >>> >>> wie gut war es doch, Zeit zu in einem Open Space zu haben: einen, zwei >>> oder besser noch Drei Tage. Gerade bei meinem letzten Pr?senz Open Space >>> als Teilnehmer sch?tzte ich das sehr, wirklich, entspannt lange Sessions zu >>> haben. Zumindest, wenn man sich in Pr?senz treffen kann. >>> >>> >>> >>> Online hingegen gilt: je weniger Zeit vor dem Bildschirm ben?tigt wird, >>> um wirklich auf den Punkt zu kommen, desto besser. Das geht nicht nur aus >>> den Feedbacks meiner Teilnehmer hervor sondern es ist auch meine Sicht. Und >>> es klappt sehr gut. >>> >>> >>> >>> Da ich mich seit 20 Jahren auf kurze Open Spaces spezialisiert habe und >>> sehr viel online Erfahrung habe, dachte ich, dass das der richtige Moment >>> ist, um mein erstes Training anzubieten: Wenn Du fit in Open Space >>> Moderation bist und wissen willst, wie Dir das auch Online gut gelingen >>> kann, dann lie? gerne weiter. Wenn das nicht auf Dich zutrifft, dann freue >>> ich mich nat?rlich ?bers Weitersagen ; ) >>> >>> >>> >>> Herzlich aus Hamburg >>> >>> Alexander >>> >>> >>> >>> WARUM DER CRASHKURS? >>> >>> >>> >>> Du bist bist Open Space Facilitator und brauchst eine Alternative zu >>> Pr?senzveranstaltungen? Dann m?chte Dich darin unterst?tzen, dass Du online >>> ein Top Event moderieren kannst. Vorteile der online Variante ist, Du bist: >>> >>> * schnell + zeitsparend: Du kannst in kurzer Zeit online Open >>> Spaces aufsetzen und weniger Stunden zu eindrucksvollen Ergebnissen kommen >>> (bis 70 TN, auch bis 300 TN sind mit ein wenig mehr Aufwand vergleichsweise >>> schnell m?glich) >>> * g?nstig: Du ersparst Dir und Deinen Kunden Logistik- und >>> Reisekosten (die Technik ist g?nstig) >>> * krisen- und planungs-sicher: online hast Du Planungssicherheit >>> losgel?st von sich st?ndig ?ndernden Auflagen und kannst sofort mit der >>> Arbeit loslegen, anstatt darauf zu warten, dass es endlich wieder so wird, >>> wie fr?her >>> * fokussierend: online Open Spaces f?rdern das genaue Zuh?ren und >>> pr?zise Redebeitr?ge >>> * ergebnisstark: selbst in sehr kurzen online-tauglichen Formaten >>> liefern die Teilnehmer beeindruckende Dokumentationen >>> >>> WIE GEHEN WIR VOR? >>> >>> Kurz gesagt nehme ich Dich von A-Z bei der Hand und versetze Dich mit >>> einem Blick ?ber die Schulter in die Lage, einen online Open Space >>> aufzusetzen und durchzuf?hren, so dass er gelingt: >>> >>> * praxisorientiert: Du erlebst live, als Teilnehmer, wie ein >>> online Open Space abl?uft >>> * reflektierend: Du lernst in der Reflektion der Moderation die >>> online spezifischen Gelingensbedingungen und Fallstricke kennen >>> * nutzerorientiert: "Die Technik hat dem Menschen zu dienen und >>> nicht umgekehrt" Wir nutzen daher exemplarisch zwei Plattformen, die sehr >>> intuitiv nutzbar sind deren Prinzipien auf andere Plattformen ?bertragbar >>> sind (VideoChat=Zoom, Zusammenarbeit=QiQoChat) >>> * umsetzungsorientiert: Du bist live dabei, wie ich einen online >>> Open Space von A-Z live aufsetzte, bekommst deine Fragen beantwortet und >>> meine Tipps und Tricks verraten, damit Du ein Top Event machen kannst >>> >>> WAS BEKOMMST DU KONKRET >>> >>> * 2,5 h online Open Space // Business: ein Ticket im Wert von 49? >>> (am 9.2 17:30-20:00) >>> * 4h Crashkurs (inkl. 30 min Pause) >>> * Tickets zu 199-249? inkl. MwSt. zzgl. Geb?hren Es gibt ein >>> limitiertes Kontingent an Fr?hbuchertickets >>> >>> Warum mit Alexander Schilling >>> >>> Kurz, knackig, substanziell. Das geht online besonders gut! Ich habe >>> mich seit 2004 vor allem auf kurze, effiziente Open Space Formate >>> konzentriert und diese gut 100x moderiert und verfeinert. Als Webdesigner >>> bin ich Internetbewohner und der ersten Stunde moderiere meine Workshops >>> seit Jahren online. Meine Erfahrung: Du kannst selbst in 2,5-3,5 Stunden >>> bereits sehr gute Ergebnisse erzielen! >>> >>> >>> >>> JETZT INFORMIEREN + ANMELDEN UNTER >>> >>> http://bit.ly/CrashkursOS >>> >>> --------------------<--------{@ >>> >>> Alexander Schilling >>> Open Space Moderator >>> >>> Fon +49 40 32 84 51 16 >>> Mob +49 177 7531168 >>> >>> <https://open-space-moderator.de/> https://open-space-moderator.de >>> <http://www.twitter.com/openspacemode> www.twitter.com/openspacemode >>> >>> Osterfelddeich 162 | D-21129 Hamburg >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> -------------- next part -------------- >>> An HTML attachment was scrubbed... >>> URL: < >>> http://lists.openspacetech.org/pipermail/oslist-openspacetech.org/attachments/20210125/614eaabb/attachment-0001.html >>> > >>> >>> ------------------------------ >>> >>> Subject: Digest Footer >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> OSList mailing list >>> To post send emails to OSList@lists.openspacetech.org >>> To unsubscribe send an email to oslist-le...@lists.openspacetech.org >>> To subscribe or manage your subscription click below: >>> http://lists.openspacetech.org/listinfo.cgi/oslist-openspacetech.org >>> Past archives can be viewed here: >>> http://www.mail-archive.com/oslist@lists.openspacetech.org >>> >>> ------------------------------ >>> >>> End of OSList Digest, Vol 117, Issue 29 >>> *************************************** >>> >> _______________________________________________ >> OSList mailing list >> To post send emails to OSList@lists.openspacetech.org >> To unsubscribe send an email to oslist-le...@lists.openspacetech.org >> To subscribe or manage your subscription click below: >> http://lists.openspacetech.org/listinfo.cgi/oslist-openspacetech.org >> Past archives can be viewed here: >> http://www.mail-archive.com/oslist@lists.openspacetech.org > >
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