Useful feedback - Thanks.

In the hope I understand you correctly, see if the following is a useful 
starting point.

 

Working from the list you provided,  anything following a “=” is my current 
interpretation &/or suggestion:-

seamark:type;0001564 recommended_track  = If there is one within (say 100 
metres), pass close to the seamark.
seamark:type;0000522 fairway  = If there is one within (say 100 metres), 
pass close the seamark.

waterway;0000016046 river = Could be an acceptable route.
waterway;0000009496 canal  = Could be an acceptable route.
waterway;0000007876 riverbank = Navigate along the channel which exists 
between the two banks
waterway;0000002202 weir = DO NOT PASS ACROSS THIS.  Find a nearby 
alternative.
waterway;0000001364 dam  = DO NOT PASS ACROSS THIS.  Find a nearby 
alternative.
waterway;0000000386 lock  = is almost certainly the usual route if the 
nearby alternative is Weir or Dam.
waterway;0000000321 tidal_flat_slough = Unlikely to be a good route (unless 
tidal data, and vessel draft are known)
waterway;0000000179 wadi  = Unlikely to be a good route.
waterway;0000000126 dock = Could be a permissible destination
waterway;0000000113 fish_pass  = DO NOT PASS ACROSS THIS.  Find a nearby 
alternative.
waterway;0000000086 boatyard  = Could be a permissible destination
waterway;0000000071 fairway   = If there is one nearby (say within 100 
metres), it is likely to be the optimum route, use it. (See Seamark, 
fairway above)
waterway;0000000059 lock_gate   = If there is one nearby (say within 100 
metres), it is likely to be the optimum route, use it.

boat;0000019888 no   = Unlikely to be a good route.
boat;0000002718 yes = Could be a good route
boat;0000000232 private   = Unlikely to be a good route.
boat;0000000064 permissive  = Could be a good route
boat;0000000045 designated  = Could be a good route

motorboat;0000001077 yes  = Could be a good route
motorboat;0000000808 no   = Unlikely to be a good route.
motorboat;0000000025 private privat   = Unlikely to be a good route.

route;0000000194 canoe   = Could be a good route (though maybe only for a 
canoe?)

--- OSM node context ---- 

waterway;0000004698 weir  = DO NOT PASS ACROSS THIS.  Find a nearby 
alternative. (See waterway, weir above)
waterway;0000001647 lock_gate 
waterway;0000000425 waterfall   = DO NOT PASS ACROSS THIS.  Find a nearby 
alternative. 
waterway;0000000337 take_right_side = ignore? 
waterway;0000000332 take_left_side  = ignore?
waterway;0000000219 milestone   = ignore?
waterway;0000000187 depth = This could be a very useful user-adjustable 
filter if the data exists on the “map/chart”.
waterway;0000000170 lock   = If there is one nearby (say within 100 
metres), use it. (See waterway, lock above)

ford;0000037927 yes   = DO NOT PASS ACROSS THIS.  Find a nearby alternative.
ford;0000000310 stepping_stones  = DO NOT PASS ACROSS THIS.  Find a nearby 
alternative.

 

All the above comments assume use by conventional displacement 
“boat/ship/yacht”. Canoe-users would probably settle for more flexibility!

Enough for now?

Paul W


On Wednesday, August 31, 2016 at 12:50:07 PM UTC+1, Poutnik wrote:
>
> The river profile is very simplistic.  Waterways are routeble, if tagged 
> as canal or river or lock_gate. Other waterway values are forbidden. 
>
> Profiles can evaluate only such tag and tag values that are mentioned in 
> text datafile http://brouter.de/brouter/profiles2/lookups.dat 
>
> All water related tags and values I have found in lookups.dat are below. 
> If you provide someinside, I can suggest improvement. 
>
> But there is a big warning - I have high suspicion that OSM tag based 
> info related to waterways may be very unsufficient for water traffic, 
> compared to various water sport guides and specialized maps. 
>
> ---OSM ways context------ 
>
> seamark:type;0001564 recommended_track 
> seamark:type;0000522 fairway 
>
> waterway;0000016046 river 
> waterway;0000009496 canal 
> waterway;0000007876 riverbank 
> waterway;0000002202 weir 
> waterway;0000001364 dam 
> waterway;0000000386 lock 
> waterway;0000000321 tidal_flat_slough 
> waterway;0000000179 wadi 
> waterway;0000000126 dock 
> waterway;0000000113 fish_pass 
> waterway;0000000086 boatyard 
> waterway;0000000071 fairway 
> waterway;0000000059 lock_gate 
>
> boat;0000019888 no 
> boat;0000002718 yes 
> boat;0000000232 private 
> boat;0000000064 permissive 
> boat;0000000045 designated 
>
> motorboat;0000001077 yes 
> motorboat;0000000808 no 
> motorboat;0000000025 private privat 
>
> route;0000000194 canoe 
>
> --- OSM node context ---- 
>
> waterway;0000004698 weir 
> waterway;0000001647 lock_gate 
> waterway;0000000425 waterfall 
> waterway;0000000337 take_right_side 
> waterway;0000000332 take_left_side 
> waterway;0000000219 milestone 
> waterway;0000000187 depth 
> waterway;0000000170 lock 
>
> ford;0000037927 yes 
> ford;0000000310 stepping_stones 
>
>
>
>
> On 08/31/2016 01:02 PM, 'P Wat' via Osmand wrote: 
> > Thanks for your lightning-fast reply! - Content understood. 
> > Analysing and improving the profile would be beyond my "retired IT 
> > person's" experience. 
> > Do you know who wrote the "River" profile - Perhaps they would be keen 
> > to improve it? 
> > 
> > Does anyone else out there feel like examining this? 
> > 
> > Cheers 
> > PaulW 
> > ================= 
> > On Wednesday, August 31, 2016 at 11:40:58 AM UTC+1, Poutnik wrote: 
> > 
> >     I cannot say much more. AFAIK it is rather experimental profile 
> >     and it's setting is simple, probably what is a water object is 
> >     routeable. Finer details are not addressed. 
> > 
> >     You can analyze the profile content and aventually improve it by 
> >     additional logic based on water related osm tagging. 
> > 
> >     31. srpna 2016 12:36:01 CEST, 'P Wat' via Osmand 
> >     <[email protected]> napsal: 
> > 
> >         Thank you Poutnik for your input. 
> >         After some false starts then trial and error, "River" mode now 
> >         functioning OK, but .... 
> >         Some of the routes presented by Brouter-River-mode/Osmand are 
> >         un-navigable. 
> > 
> >         For example, checking stretches of the River Thames known to 
> me:- 
> >         (Pic1) This route is shown going over the weir rather than 
> >         through the lock.  51.559888, -0.873266. 
> >         (Pic2) Shows a navigable route via a lock, not over the weir. 
> >         51.567255, -0.76882. 
> >         (Pic3) This absurd route is via minor streams and ditches. 
> >         Should go south from 51.432725, -0.515320, not north. 
> >         (Pic4) = Road map of Pic3. 
> >         Several similar instances already found elsewhere. 
> > 
> >         These anomalies would make route-planning in "foreign" waters, 
> >         seriously flawed! 
> >         Is this caused by the "River" algorithm? 
> >         Regards 
> >         Paul W 
> > 
> > 
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