I think i'll agree with Manav - Lets leave the current draft as is.
Its extensible and can support the future extensions that are being
currently defined for OSPFv2.

Glen

On Tue, Apr 12, 2011 at 11:04 AM, Bhatia, Manav (Manav)
<[email protected]> wrote:
> Hi Michael,
>
> Different boxes would require different kind of security properties. There 
> are many boxes/deployments that would not care about the inter-session replay 
> attack or may not have the capability to store additional information in 
> non-volatile memory or may not want the additional complexity that the nonce 
> and the session ID brings in. Those devices may just want to use the AT block 
> as is currently defined.
>
> I don't see any reason why we should preclude the possibility of such devices 
> existing.
>
> I would have agreed to delay this based on KARP result if it would have 
> entailed a significant change in the AT design. Since it doesn't, I see no 
> reason why we should do that.
>
> Cheers, Manav
>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Michael Barnes [mailto:[email protected]]
>> Sent: Tuesday, April 12, 2011 10.57 AM
>> To: Bhatia, Manav (Manav); Michael Barnes; [email protected]; Abhay Roy
>> Cc: [email protected]
>> Subject: RE: [OSPF] WG Last Call for Supporting
>> Authentication Trailer for OSPFv3 - draft-ietf-ospf-auth-trai
>>
>> Hello Manav,
>>
>> ------ Original Message ------
>> Received: Mon, 11 Apr 2011 10:05:36 PM PDT
>> From: "Bhatia, Manav (Manav)" <[email protected]>
>> To: Michael Barnes <[email protected]>,        "[email protected]"
>> <[email protected]>, Abhay Roy <[email protected]>Cc: "[email protected]"
>> <[email protected]>
>> Subject: RE: [OSPF] WG Last Call for Supporting
>> Authentication Trailer for
>> OSPFv3 - draft-ietf-ospf-auth-trai
>>
>> > Hi Michael,
>> >
>> > > > right direction and would not have to be revisited
>> quite as soon if
>> > > > something more robust were proposed.
>> > > >
>> > > > Bottom line.  Falls short of what I'd like to see but
>> no objection.
>> > > >
>> > > > Curtis
>> > >
>> > > I agree with Curis. I'd really like to see the first version
>> > > of this spec at
>> > > least have the extended sequence number as is being
>> discussed for v2.
>> >
>> > I disagree that AT should have a 64 bit sequence space in the base
>> specification primarily because we are not yet sure if the
>> KARP boot count
>> approach is what the WG will finally converge on (in which
>> case we would need
>> an extended sequence space). Also note that the AT provides
>> an "Auth Type"
>> field which can be assigned a new value (similar to how it
>> will be done for
>> OSPFv2) once we decide to move to a different scheme. The
>> same standard that
>> extends the OSPFv2 sequence space can also do it for OSPFv3
>> AT block - really
>> hardly an overhead.
>> >
>> > Also note that you could consider this proposal as just
>> bringing OSPFv3 at
>> par with OSPFv2. Once this is done, any proposal that extends
>> OSPFv2 will
>> natively work for OSPFv3 as well.
>>
>> So you are saying that this flaw is okay with you? I'd rather
>> hold off on
>> pushing this forward until this flaw is fixed. And I think
>> waiting to see what
>> happens in KARP might be a good idea.
>>
>> Regards,
>> Michael
>>
>>
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