Hi Tony,

I’ll have to discuss with the authors - but my impression is that this would 
not be limited to unnumbered links.  My understanding is that the repurposing 
of link–local OSPF TE LSAs is only done on unnumbered links so that would be 
the main focus of the backward compatibility discussion.

Thanks,
Acee

From: prz <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>>
Date: Saturday, May 6, 2017 at 12:58 PM
To: Acee Lindem <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>>
Cc: OSPF WG List <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>>
Subject: Re: [OSPF] WG Adoption Poll for "OSPF LLS Extensions for Local 
Interface ID Advertisement"


Hey Acee,

1. looking fwd to read the revision with backwards compatibility section and 
definition which Hello FSM states the extension applies to

2. I try to read what you say carefully but please clarify: there's nothing in 
rfc5613 that prevents LLC on any link so do you mean, you suggest  to use this 
TLV on unnumbered links _only_?  Or do you suggest that RFC3630 implies somehow 
that LS TE LSAs are used on unnumbered links _only_? If so, I don't see 
anything in the RFC to this effect ...

--- tony



On Fri, 5 May 2017 15:14:30 +0000, "Acee Lindem (acee)" 
<[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:

Hi Tony,
The authors will cover this in the next revision. Based on discussions, the 
usage of link-scoped TE LSAs is limited to unnumbered point-to-point links. If 
this is the case, the backward compatibility is much simpler than the other 
discussions we’ve been having.
Thanks,
Acee
From: prz <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>>
Date: Friday, May 5, 2017 at 11:09 AM
To: Acee Lindem <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>>
Cc: OSPF WG List <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>>
Subject: Re: [OSPF] WG Adoption Poll for "OSPF LLS Extensions for Local 
Interface ID Advertisement"

Not sure it made it from my other address so rtx to the list ...

A conditional against here ...

I am fine with adoption if I see a version that spells the detailed behavior 
and especially interactions between RFC4302 and this draft in a detailed 
section, i.e. both on, RFC4302 gets configured/unconfigured, are the LLS 
extensions advertised on every hello or just until a specific state (like ISIS 
padding thingies) and so on ...
I'd rather have this now than a LC discussion ...
The idea is deceptively simple but it is a redundant mechanism and those always 
end causing inter-op problems unless cleanly spelled out ...
--- tony


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