Ryan and Dan,
Thanks for the info on using lists in OSSEC.
Looks like a much more efficient way for OSSEC to evaluate a larger set of
numbers.

You would think a SANS institute InfoSec Practical OSSEC paper would offer
advanced examples that actually worked :<)

Looks like I would need to run ossec-makelists to rebuild the lists, does
that require a manual restart of ossec-analysisd?

Thanks,

James Whittington

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Sent: Tuesday, February 19, 2013 9:55 AM
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Subject: Re: [ossec-list] Large ruleset causing ossec startup issues?

On Tue, Feb 19, 2013 at 12:38 AM, Ryan Schulze <[email protected]> wrote:
> Hi James,
>
> that sounds like quite a few new rules in that list. I've never had 
> that many, so can't say what side affects it may have. But after 
> looking at the SANS document I would suggest shortening it down to one 
> rule that uses CDB lists and looks like this (based off the rule template
from the document):
>
> <group name="web">
>   <rule id="100499" level="14">
>     <if_sid>3100</if_sid>
>     <list field="srcip"
lookup="address_match_key">lists/ip_shunlist</list>
>     <description>Shun!</description>
>   </rule>
> </group>
>
> Then you just have to populate the ip_shunlist file and add the 
> following to the ossec.conf in the <rules> section:
> <list>lists/ip_shunlist</list>
>
> IMHO easier to maintain (just update the list of IPs), and the list 
> can be used for multiple rules.
> Have a look at the OSSEC documentation for how the IP List should be
> formatted:
> http://www.ossec.net/doc/manual/rules-decoders/rule-lists.html
>
>

If the author tried to do a "watch list" without using cdb lists, he's
providing bad advice. It's definitely the way to go (I've had 100,000+ items
in lists without issues).

>
>
> On 2/18/2013 4:46 PM, James Whittington wrote:
>
> I read a whitepaper by the SANS institute where they gave an example 
> of taking an emerging threats blacklist and creating a custom ruleset 
> from it's IPs.
>
> (http://www.sans.org/reading_room/whitepapers/detection/practical-osse
> c_33699)
>
>
>
> I was pretty sure I had all the pieces working and in fact could do a 
> logtest successfully using the newly created ruleset.
>
> This is OSSEC HIDS v2.7-beta2 by the way.
>
> On an OSSEC restart however analysis had a couple of errors and none 
> of my remote logs seems to be flowing through anymore?
>
>
>
> 2013/02/18 16:58:29 ossec-syscheckd: INFO: Monitoring directory: '/bin'.
>
> 2013/02/18 16:58:29 ossec-syscheckd: INFO: Monitoring directory: '/sbin'.
>
> 2013/02/18 16:58:29 ossec-analysisd(1210): ERROR: Queue '/queue/alerts/ar'
> not accessible: 'Connection refused'.
>
> 2013/02/18 16:58:29 ossec-analysisd(1301): ERROR: Unable to connect to 
> active response queue.
>
> 2013/02/18 16:58:29 ossec-analysisd: INFO: Connected to 
> '/queue/alerts/execq' (exec queue)
>
>
>
> After commenting out the ruleset in the ossec.conf file fixed things 
> so it seems tied to this new ruleset.
>
> The new rules are a bit larger at 1.7 MB so maybe something is timing out?
>
>
>
> Any ideas out there on this?
>
> I like the idea of incorporating a well known blacklist into ossec.
>
>
>
> Thanks,
>
>
>
> James Whittington
>
>
>
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