At 4:21 PM -0400 4/9/09, Charles Bennett wrote:
> > And the other day, his claims about the Rockefeller Center in New York
>> being some mix of communist / fasctist / progressive - see, for
>> instance
>>
>>
>>http://thejoshuablogs.blogspot.com/2009/09/keith-olbermann-dissects-glenn-becks.html
>>
>> I think that those are more the kinds of things that are involved in
>> 'the fuss' regarding Glenn Beck.
>
>
>Ah. That's kind of nuts.
>
>Art with hammers and sickles depicting workers and industry are pretty
>common before and after the communists.
>Where an industrial revolution happens in a mostly agrarian society,
>what other kind of artwork would you expect?
I have also seen, in modern heraldry and civic statuary etc,
the fasces, which is the symbolic object (a bundle of sticks with an
ax in the centre) that gave its name to fascism, and was used as a
fascist symbol by the Mussolinis Fascists and the British Union of
Fascists among others. But getting all conspiracy theory on this
stuff is just nuts - people can't be aware of the symbolic meaning
things will acquire in the future, and the fasces was also used as a
symbol of the Roman Republic, the French Republic, a LOT of US
political heraldry, and a general symbol of strength through
political unity generally. A symbol getting used by one bunch of
people you disagree with doesn't invalidate its other meanings -
unless you are a crank like Beck.
At 10:01 PM +0100 4/9/09, Jared ''Danger'' Earle wrote:
>I've argued with a few nutballs who tried to convince me Nazis were
>left wing because they're National Socialists.
This particular bit of idiocy is surprisingly common. At
least it provides a useful 'early warning system' that the person you
are talking to has so little idea about real world politics as to
almost certainly deluded.
Cheers
Dave
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