On Mar 11, 2011, at 9:45 AM, Lawrence Sica wrote:

> 
> On Mar 11, 2011, at 11:01 AM, Roger Howard wrote:
> 
>> 
>> On Mar 11, 2011, at 7:23 AM, Arno Hautala wrote:
>> 
>>> On Fri, Mar 11, 2011 at 04:57, Rodti MacLeary <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Is that in some way analogous to putting an 'unexpected item' in his
>>>> 'bagging area'?
>>>> 
>>>> That's a British supermarket joke, appreciate it may have limited use here.
>>> 
>>> At first I thought it was an airline joke. And, at least in New
>>> England, we have the same automated checkout lines. I cannot hit the
>>> mute button fast enough.
>> 
>> We've got them here too, and they painfully demonstrate how important good 
>> UI can be, and how bad UI in an automated system seems sure to cost more 
>> than just doing things the old fashioned way.
>> 
>> I was at a grocery store in LA last week, in a hip neighborhood with mostly 
>> young iPhone toting customers. There were 2 regular checkstands open - this 
>> was at about 7pm, when the store was packed - and a massive line for the 4 
>> automated checkouts. There were 3 checkers *and* a security guard helping 
>> out in the automated line, and it was taking longer to get through than in 
>> the long lines of the old-school checkout lines. I saw two people forget to 
>> take their change; one of the machines crashed while I was in line, causing 
>> panic amongst the people who were randomly queued up in its general 
>> direction; and mine compulsively refused to scan a perfectly fine looking 
>> barcode, despite about 10 attempts, but did it perfectly the second the 
>> checker came over.
> 
> For all my love of tech, I hate this kind of automation that removes the 
> human component from various bits.  It's like those stupid phone systems you 
> talk to.  At least I know how to bypass those and get straight to a person.

In some cases I prefer it a lot - I'm working on my house and am at HomeDepot 
and Lowes several times a week. The checkers are stumped, half the time, with 
the products I'm buying, so it takes me way less time to ring myself up than 
watch them slowly look through a code book to figure out how to charge me for 
that one stainless steel bolt. But at a grocery store, particularly one with 
produce, it's almost always worse than just having a professional checker with 
the code book memorized; I did that myself when I was 13-16 and I knew every 
code for every product in our little store within a couple weeks, no scanner 
needed.

I love personal customer support - I have found the best plumber, electrician, 
etc, in my area, and they take care of me. I even drive my boat an hour away 
for service because they guy is unquestionably honest. But most retailers 
aren't like that anymore - their staff doesn't know shit about their products 
(ever been to Frys? or even a typical mega-bookstore) so I'll take self-help 
where I can get it.

-R
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