Dear Manuel, Agus

I am trying to understand all those parameters in 4 step LSMS. I am 
sending, what I have found, or what is not clear to me. I will be glad for 
any comments:

I have found sections of linked paper
* "B. Overview of the Algorithm"  on page 957 -- filtering step
* "D. Proposed Stable Version" on page 958 -- segmentation step
* (B. Algorithm for Large-Scale Segmentation" on page 959)

most corresponding to 4 steps LSMS procedure described on following pages:

http://otbcb.readthedocs.io/en/latest/Applications/app_MeanShiftSmoothing.html
http://otbcb.readthedocs.io/en/latest/Applications/app_LSMSSegmentation.html

and implemented here

https://github.com/orfeotoolbox/OTB/blob/master/Modules/Filtering/Smoothing/include/otbMeanShiftSmoothingImageFilter.txx
https://github.com/orfeotoolbox/OTB/blob/master/Modules/Segmentation/MeanShift/include/otbMeanShiftSegmentationFilter.txx

What is not clear to me, or some notes:

* step 1 -- Filtering step / smoothing (described in "B. Overview of the 
Algorithm" on page 957)
  * spatialr (int) -- h_s -- spatial range or spatial kernel bandwidth? -- 
number of pixels considered during the equation? (seems when set bigger 
number the computation is slower)
  * ranger (float) -- h_r -- adjusting the level of smoothing? (with very 
low value the effect of smoothing not visible)

-> resulting Spatial Image -- NOT CLEAR
* found
  * Spatial image output is a displacement map (pixel position after 
convergence). found here 
<http://otbcb.readthedocs.io/en/latest/Applications/app_MeanShiftSmoothing.html>
  * foutpos is actually an image of the spatial position to which each 
pixel mode converges. found here 
<https://groups.google.com/forum/#!searchin/otb-users/spatialr|sort:relevance/otb-users/meulMchcxjw/h2LwxVyHgmkJ>
* it has 2 bands, it is X and Y distance?

* step 2 -- segmentation step
  * ranger (float) -- h'_r -- seems that this parameter is controlling the 
number of resulting segments
  * spatialr (float) -- h'_s

Is it possible to somehow control maximum size of segments, or something 
like spatial compactness? 

Best regards, Jiří.

On Thursday, 3 March 2016 10:12:19 UTC+1, Grizonnet Manuel wrote:
>
> Hi Augustin, 
>
> the methodology is based on the following publication: 
>
> J. Michel, 
> D. Youssefi and M. Grizonnet, "Stable Mean-Shift Algorithm and Its 
> Application 
> to the Segmentation of Arbitrarily Large Remote Sensing Images," in IEEE 
> Transactions on Geoscience and Remote Sensing, vol. 53, no. 2, pp. 
> 952-964, 
> Feb. 2015. 
>
> You'll find more detail information about the strategy. Note that I've 
> updated the cookbook recipe sources to add a reference to this 
> publication which was missing. 
>
> Thanks for the report. 
>
> Manuel 
>
> Le 02/03/2016 10:44, Agustin Lobo a écrit : 
> > The doc 
> > https://www.orfeo-toolbox.org/CookBook/CookBooksu35.html#x53-660003.3.4 
> > states: 
> > "The segmentation will group together adjacent pixels whose range 
> > distance is below the ranger parameter and (optionally) spatial 
> > distance is below the spatialr parameter" 
> > 
> > if the pixels are adjacent, then they always will be below the 
> > spatialr parameter. Is "adjacency" defined as "within the spatialr 
> > distance"? 
> > or is it that the group is allowed to grow at a maximum of spatialr from 
> the 
> > considered pixel? 
> > 
> > Thanks 
> > Agus 
> > 
>
> -- 
> Manuel GRIZONNET 
>
>

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