I think it is worthwhile to note that CMS decided on ATP being the  
required certification without RESNA knowing ahead of time. RESNA.org  
has some very interesting position papers and remarks regarding  
federal legislation on the website. When the ATP rule was first  
announced, RESNA put a disclaimer on their site stating that they did  
not seek this rule from CMS and, basically, were as surprised as  
everyone else. I checked to see if that statement was still  
available, and I did not see it on the site tonight.

I know I've said it before, but I will say it again, I agree with Ron  
that certification is a great idea. I don't think an ATP's knowledge  
base as compared to a knowledgeable rehab OT or PT is necessary for  
straightforward scooters or power chairs.

I do think an advanced certification should be required for complex  
rehab. I also am very much in agreement with the efforts being made  
to "carve-out" complex rehab from the competitive bidding process  
going on now for equipment vendors/dealers. If complex rehab remains  
part of the bidding process, the main losers are the clients who have  
significant seating needs, primarily those with lifelong diagnoses,  
both orthopedic and neurological in nature.

It's a tough issue, and there may be some folks who suffer as it is  
all worked out.

I hope that is not the case!
Mary Alice
On Nov 5, 2007, at 8:15 PM, Ron Carson wrote:

> AAh, now I understand.
>
> I can't help wonder if a seating certification wouldn't be the BEST
> solution for all parties.  Seems like Medicare, beneficiaries,
> therapists, AOTA, etc would ALL benefit.
>
> Personal, I think certification is a great idea. If it was somehow  
> tied
> to reimbursement it would be an OUTSTANDING idea.
>
> Ron
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Chuck Willmarth <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Monday, November 05, 2007
> To:   OTlist@OTnow.com <OTlist@OTnow.com>
> Subj: [OTlist] ATP
>
>> Ron,
>
>> No, we have requested that the ATP certification requirement be
>> repealed, and believe that no special certification should be  
>> required
>> under Medicare for payment.
>
>> Chuck
>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
>> Behalf Of Ron Carson
>> Sent: Monday, November 05, 2007 8:44 PM
>> To: Chuck Willmarth
>> Subject: Re: [OTlist] ATP
>
>> Chuck, do you know if AOTA has offered speciality certification in  
>> place
>> of ATP certification?
>
>> Thanks for clarifying your position.
>
>> Ron
>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: Chuck Willmarth <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> Sent: Monday, November 05, 2007
>> To:   OTlist@OTnow.com <OTlist@OTnow.com>
>> Subj: [OTlist] ATP
>
>>> Ron,
>
>>> Just to clarify, AOTA does not have a seating and wheel mobility
>>> certification...the ad hoc group is examining the need for such a
>>> certification from what I understand.
>
>>> I was suggesting that a broader level, AOTA's Board and Specialty
>>> Certifications are not tied to reimbursement.
>
>>> We are stilling waiting to hear from the DME Medical Directors in
>>> response to our request that the withdraw the ATP certification
>>> requirement.
>
>>> Chuck
>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
>>> Behalf Of Ron Carson
>>> Sent: Monday, November 05, 2007 7:04 PM
>>> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>> Subject: Re: [OTlist] ATP
>
>>> Hello Theresa:
>
>>> Thanks for the update.
>
>>> In an earlier message, I think Chuck Wilmarth indicated that AOTA's
>> w/c
>>> seating certification is NOT tied to reimbursement.  Is this  
>>> accurate?
>>> Is AOTA not pursing acceptance of their certification with CMS  
>>> instead
>>> of only the ATP certification. The ATP certification is such over- 
>>> kill
>>> for many, many w/c evals. If the AOTA certification is NOT  
>>> accepted by
>>> Medicare as a qualifying credential, why will OT's pursue it?
>
>>> Thanks,
>
>>> Ron
>
>
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>> Sent: Monday, November 05, 2007
>>> To:   OTlist@OTnow.com <OTlist@OTnow.com>
>>> Subj: [OTlist] ATP
>
>>>> Laura:  The seating and wheeled ad hoc committee is in the  
>>>> process of
>
>>>> studying the issues around this topic and will be surveying
>> membership
>
>>>> soon (probably this week so look for the survey through AOTA
>>> One-Minute
>>>> update).  After that we will be putting together a report to the
>>>> commission on practice of whether to pursue a certification process
>>>> through AOTA or not.
>
>>>> Theresa Gregorio-Torres
>
>
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