Hi Ilene, I know exactly what you mean. I work in a SNF setting and have the same problem. A lot of the time I have found that it is difficult to find something that is meaningful to the patient. If I ask them what is important to them, or what activities do they like, I'll get a shrug or something like: "Oh, I just sit in my chair, watching tv all day. I don't like to do anything." I address what I have to in order to get the patient independent enough to discharge to the desired location. Audra Ray, OTR/L
--- On Sun, 11/30/08, Ron Carson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: From: Ron Carson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: [OTlist] AARGH! To: "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" <OTlist@OTnow.com> Date: Sunday, November 30, 2008, 3:31 PM Hello Ilene: Thanks for coming "out of the closet" and posting! <smile> I think you represent the other end of the spectrum because you work in an environment that is not conducive to occupation based practice. I have LIMITED SNF experience but what I had was very negative. Basically, I refused to practice the way the SNF company wanted, exactly what you describe, and I was fired. I say all of this because I'm NOT the right person for giving SNF advice. I wish I had encouraging words, but I truly think corporate greed makes meaningful OT very, very difficult. Maybe others on the list have more positive advice. There is just no way that you can see a hoard of patients and provide meaningful OT. At least in my opinion and experience Ron -- Ron Carson MHS, OT ----- Original Message ----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Sunday, November 30, 2008 To: otlist@otnow.com <otlist@otnow.com> Subj: [OTlist] AARGH! ocn> Hello from a long time lurker, first time poster. I am one of ocn> those OT's being criticized for having patients play cards, stand ocn> and fold/hang up laundry, etc for standing tolerance. I don't do ocn> these activities because I am lazy, but am actually trying the ocn> best I can to be functional in less-than-ideal environments and ocn> situations. First of all, I never learned real-world OT ocn> activities that are truly functional. In school, every case study ocn> had two things in common; the first is that there was some hidden ocn> passion that was just waiting to be discovered by the OT (she ocn> used to love water painting, or something like that) the second ocn> was that there seemed to be unlimited time in which to engage ocn> patients, and facilities with unlimited funds and space. My ocn> fieldwork placements were very medically oriented and did not ocn> give me much in the way of functional treatment ideas. ocn> So in my situation, I work in a SNF. Most of the patients we see ocn> are long-term or live in the ALF side. We have a tiny gym, no ocn> kitchen, no ADL suites, and limited equipment. I do a.m. ADL's as ocn> much as I can, but can only do 1-2 in the morning (all residents ocn> have to be in the dining room by 8). Sure, I have patients get ocn> things from dressers and work on transfers in the gym, but the ocn> reality is that I have 6-8 people in the gym at once (the PT and ocn> I do not split treatment but treat everyone in the same room, ocn> basically together). The things mentioned about take all of 15 ocn> minutes, but I have to see these patients for an hour. I always ocn> try to find out their interests both now and before they lived in ocn> the nursing home but it is often without much success. ocn> I am not making excuses, rather I am asking for ideas. I am ocn> always searching the net and journals for more functional ocn> treatment ideas, and do not find much. On the boards, I see a lot ocn> of "OT's shouldn't do that, we should be more creative" but that ocn> is easy to say without offering any solutions. I also see a lot ocn> of "well, go to Home Health" but obviously we can't all do that, ocn> and I enjoy the SNF setting. What I am asking for with this post ocn> is real-world ideas. I am hungry for them but see little offered. ocn> Ron, how about doing a seminar? Most of the seminars offered are ocn> medically oriented but offer few functional treatment ideas. What do others in my situation do? ocn> Thanks, ocn> Ilene from Jersey ocn> -- ocn> Options? ocn> www.otnow.com/mailman/options/otlist_otnow.com ocn> Archive? ocn> www.mail-archive.com/otlist@otnow.com -- Options? www.otnow.com/mailman/options/otlist_otnow.com Archive? www.mail-archive.com/otlist@otnow.com -- Options? www.otnow.com/mailman/options/otlist_otnow.com Archive? www.mail-archive.com/otlist@otnow.com